My two cents, for all its worth …
I’ve always like Sarah and have loathed the years of savaging done to her – yes, by the Left who cannot stand any female that dares not to be on the Left’s plantation — but especially by the GOP Establicans. The coastal elites were horrified by this snowbilly, regardless of her popularity and her touch with voters. They could have made peace with her after McCain’s loss, coached her, worked with her and used her tremendous popularity to the party’s advantage.
BUT NOOOOOO … a non-ivy leaguer from some hick town in AK who bucked the establishment ??? Oh bring the fainting couch!
I’m sorely disappointed in her endorsement, but this is her big middle finger flipping off the GOPe, and those top party a**holes who have betrayed the base time and again have no one to blame but themselves.
Flipping off the establishment by joining a guy who spent part of his day bragging that he’s getting favorable calls from the establishment bigwigs is a peculiar way to go, especially when there’s another candidate, a bona fide constitutionalist hanging in there who is especially despised by every single member of the establishment right down to the lowest clerical workers. And too, flipping off a sizable (if even possibly the vast) majority of the TEA party people? uh, no. No favors. RIP being said a lot these days can go out to the little Republic too. Ya had a nice run, America. Whatsit again that follows democracy? That’ll be next up to bat.
if anyone paved the way for failmerica’s embrace of reality tv trash in politics it was the people who embraced palin as a veep and a potential presidential candidate in her own right
these are the people what defined the presidency down to trump’s level
thank you so much
Dumb move by her. —And I say that as someone who, until 2012, strongly advocated for her to run for President.
With so much at stake, with emotions running so high, to go against a true conservative who has proven he is willing to truly take on the GOPe is a major mistake. This will severely damage whatever sway she holds and credibility she has with conservatives.
For what is Palin profited, if she shall gain the Populists, and lose her own soul?
—Book Of Belvedere, 23:17
I agree with Jim Geraghty, who I guess is echoing Allahpundit: this is the death knell of the Tea Party movement.
That’s 2016 in a nutshell, especially since Trump is currently the most GOPe-friendly candidate with any shot at winning right now. It’s been kind of fun watching them have their own counterpart to the 2008 primary season, and seeing it topped off with another Sarah Palin appearance does, I have to admit, suit my appetite for schadenfreud-tastic irony.
But it is also sad that she apparently hasn’t been tracking the trajectory of the campaign over the last couple of weeks, as the GOPe has come to terms with Trump’s ascendancy and reassessed what he actually would represent while in office — someone even more co-optable than a Marco Rubio or Paul Ryan.
That’s not glory Sarah got covered with yesterday.
I understand why she resigned as governor, but I remain convinced her political future depended on her completing her first term and winning re-election; none of what drove her from office would have happened had she sensibly thanked McCain for the offer but declined. With a newborn — especially one with Trig’s challenges — she would have had no need for an excuse and it would have counted in her favor later on.
It’s also worth considering that populism has historically been most dangerous for those embraced by the mob. Obama being a first-wave beneficiary will get off lightly — but I’d hate to be the one after Trump.
I’m with Palin on this one. Enough with lawyers that have made a career in politics, time to try something different. Besides, this s still just too, too, much knee slapping fun. Now Trump is the establishment? LMAO!!
“. . . but we’ve been complimented by so many people, and we’ve been contacted by the establishment types, they all want to know how do they get involved with the campaign, they’re giving up on their candidates, and how to they get in, and I mean these are real establishment people that I’ve known when I was a member of the establishment and meaning a giver, a big donor, but they are contacting us — Corey, I think we can say that very honestly — they’re contacting left and right about joining the campaign, and these are serious establishment types. I also said just now, Corey, I’m not sure if that’s a good thing or a bad thing and I don’t even care that much — it doesn’t matter, we wanna just, very simple: make America great again . . .”
Never once, ever, as TEA Party person, did I think, or hear of any other TEA Party person say, what we really need to fight is Donald Trump! Or any private businessman. Or any private person period!
Stop it now Geraghty, and you other super duper thinkers, my sides hurt! LSMA!
People dumping on Palin for her choice proves your point Darleen.
Palin is not me and I do not expect to make all the same choices as me and I trust her to have made a considerate decision. Cruz is awesome and we need his type in Congress. Does it mean he would make a good President? Do senators usually make good presidents? He’s still my first choice but, I have been wrong before.
The Trump can’t beat Hillary meme isn’t worth the ones and zeroes it is written with.
Oh noes, I donated money to the RNC back in the day too, and they still send me letters wanting more. Fuck! I guess that means I gotta support Jeb!
I’m with Bob. If she really wanted to give the Establicans the finger, why didn’t she endorse Ted Cruz? The GOPe loathes Cruz even more than it hates Trump. And Cruz is precisely the kind of Reagan conservative that Sarah Palin said we needed back when she endorsed his U.S. Senate run in 2012. Trump is not. The answer to that question is not one that Palin fans want to hear. She is not the Sarah Palin of 2007-2012 so many of us came to admire and respect.
Her speech last night is an example of how much Palin has changed from that earlier time frame. I pulled up her 2009 address to an Indiana Right To Life group and listened to the entie speech to refresh my memory. It was a coherent and impassioned address in defense of life and her Down Syndrome son Trig. There were no traces of last night’s screechiness, yet all of Palin’s folksy charm was still there in that ’09 oration. Listening to the two speeches was like hearing two different speakers.
What forces have changed Sarah? For one thing, she’s no longer a sitting governor. In 2009, delivering speeches was common practice for her, and she was pretty good at it. Her speechmaking skills have become rusty, and it showed last night. But aside from pacing, voice crontol, and the other mechanics of oration, she was also a more disciplined and coherent speaker back then. She moved from stating a propostion (point A) on to point B, etc. and tied it all together at the end, restating the proposition after defending it in the body of the speech. There was none of that discipline in evidence last night, as her speech wandered all over the place.
Her philosophy also seems to have changed. She used to be all about conservatism, with just a little populism mixed in to get our attention. Over the years, Palin’s ratio of conservatism to populism has flipped. Now she’s mostly populist, with a little nod to conservatism mixed in.
Sarah Palin’s reaction to all the hate and criticism directed at her and her family has led her to value looyalty over everything else. And that everything includes her conservative principles. This is why she endorsed such squishy characters as John McCain and Orrin Hatch. Praise Sarah Palin publicly, and you’ve got more than just a friend. In pursuit of this loyalty, she will put aside all other considerations, including conservative principle and even the articles of religion that define her deep and abiding faith in God.
My intent here is not to be ugly, but to try to imderstand how this woman of principle I once admired so much could bring herself to stake her reputation on such a Big Pretender as Donald Trump. He’s not conservative, and his claims to be religious are so obviously fraudulent that even Stevie Wonder could see right through them. Next to her family, Reagan conservatism and religion were at one time the most most important things in Sarah Palin’s life. Not any more.
– JP
Fact remains, the GOPe has decided they like Trump better than Cruz.
Anyone willing to stand up in the well of the Senate and call Mitch McConnell exactly what he is, is not your run-of-the-mill Senator.
What has Trump ever said about Mush?
I think Cruz a terrific guy, I just think his skills and experience would be waaaaay better served, and the country’s as well, with a lifetime appointment to the SC rather than as president.
Right now I think we need a president that has actually employed people and understands the world outside of Washington DC. I’m pretty sure that is Palin’s thinking too.
That’s it: just hold out your hand and Trump guarantees to put someone else’s hard won wealth into it — he gets things done! Trivial procedural niceties be damned: he’s a winner!
The other fact remains, unless you want the next president to act the dictator like the current one, whoever it is, he will have to be a leader and work with congress to get anything done. That is actually one of the things I worry about with a president Trump, that congress would treat him like a red headed stepchild and shut him down on everything he tries to do out of shear cussidness, especially when it comes to immigration. Kinda like what happened to the Arnold when he became governor of California.
I don’t think the Donald will collapse like a cheap tent like Swartzenegger did though.
Trumps a lot closer to an establishmentarian than he seems. I’m not a big fan of Palin, but Mrs Cookies is and she thinks that Palin’s endorsing Trump because Rubio told her to fuck off. I can see that.
But I don’t care any more. My vote is for sale. If you want me to vote for a candidate, we’ll talk, but show me the money.
Don’t play the absurd Lee: the Congressional powers that be (who have refused to remove the ClownDisaster despite his manifest tyrannical habits) are salivating at the opportunity to work closely with The Donald to rob the nation blind (it’s always someone else’s wealth they’ll negotiate over), and he with them. The evidence is all around, we merely have to open our eyes to see it. But nasty Ted Cruz calls Sen. McConnell a liar, so speaking the truth about things clearly is out of bounds. Better to lie alongside the big establishment types.
I don’t know where you get that sdfferr, Trump creates wealth, he doesn’t take it.
As far as I’m concerned our borders are THE issue now, and frankly I trust Trump more than Cruz on that issue.
Keep your eyes closed Lee, lest you witness Trump promising to expand corn ethanol subsidies.
If the GOP is salivating over Trump it’s a damn recent development.
I think they still are desperate to run him off, and they have realized the best way to do that is paint him as one of them. I doubt it will work, considering most of his supporters like him as the fuck you candidate from the beginning.
Eh, he could flip on that like Cruz did a month ago. Have faith!
Being recent doesn’t make the fact of the matter disappear. Take Trump’s own declaration for what it was worth: the serious establishment types, who Trump has known since long time past, are now calling him to get on board. I mean, he’s your guy. What, you don’t believe him?
Cruz has not flipped, so what’s to have false faith in?
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2016/01/06/ted-cruz-changes-position-embraces-current-ethanol-mandate-ethanol-lobby-applauds/
Getting rid of corn based ethanol subsidies over a five year step-structured withdrawal remains the position. Pretending that’s a flip is nonsensical. It’s getting rid of it. No other politician campaigning in Iowa that I’m aware of is saying as much.
I believe Trump is his own man, regardless what the establishment wants. If your mother in law wants to move into your house, does that mean you want her to?
Frankly, ethanol isn’t one of my priorities just now. I’m into walls.
Regardless what the establishment wants, Trump maintains that he’s the man to work with them — not Ted Cruz — because Trump alone knows how to make deals. That’s Trump saying he’s going to make deals with the establishment. They hear him. The establishment approves making deals with themselves — just like Boehner with Obama. You, on the other hand, won’t be present in their deal making sessions. You are cut right out. And Trump remains his own man. His interests. Your interests be damned.
Ethanol subsidies, like all the other gifts to the takers, isn’t one of your priorities? Growing the taker class isn’t a priority why? Because everyone has an interest in becoming a member? Oh wait, that won’t work.
So you think Cruz is going to sweep into office and fix it all on his own? Pshaw.
Even Reagan had to work with congress, and wasn’t able to cut one department or do an immigration deal without amnesty.
Even if Cruz is elected, sounds like you need to tamp down your expectations a mite…
First off, supporting Donald Trump won’t get Ted Cruz elected, will it? But hey, let’s don’t get started dismantling the administrative state at all. Let’s just leave off supporting anyone who in any way shape or form asserts he will abide by the Constitution, its procedures, its political structures of tripartite division of powers, its descending structures of sovereignties from people, to federated states, to federal government. No. Let’s support the guy who doesn’t bother with all that rigmarole but asserts he’ll just do stuff, he’ll make things great while never saying what’s great about it.
I already said I’d rather see Cruz as a SCJ, so no, I’m not trying to get him elected president.
As for just saying stuff, Sessions endorsed Trumps immigration plan, I haven’t seen Cruz’s plan. As far as I know, other than Trump, they are all just saying stuff about their plan for immigration.
Trump has said his sister would make a great Supreme Court Justice, so don’t look for Ted Cruz to be an appointment any time soon. Nah, sooner Larry Tribe if Trump has his way.
If Trump’s anything like most developers, he likely makes a lot of his money off taxpayers via TIF and such. That would, I think, be enough to discourage most tea partiers from supporting him. The way it normally works around here (Kansas City) is that the developers keep a lot of the tax money during what you might call the useful life of the project, i.e. until it’s ready to be written off and torn down.
I do admit to liking his style a bit. Same as I admire Cruz for calling McConnell a liar.
A businessman is obligated to follow the law and make his investors happy. If he does those things he done good.
If you have a problem with the law, talk to the lawmakers, not the businessman.
But there are plenty of reasons to be suspicious of where Trump stands on issues. Sure, he claims to be a 2nd Amendment guy, but then again Obama keeps claiming to have been a Con Law professor, too, and we can tell that’s bullshit.
I don’t know Trumps sister, maybe she would. I’m pretty confident Cruz would.
Reagan gave us O’Conner and Kennedy, and W wanted Mears, and gave us Roberts. Seems to be a crap shoot whomever the Republicans elect.
It’s always bad when the dems pick…
Eh, don’t get me wrong, I take advantage of subsidies where available–such as for my solar panel installation–on the grounds that I’ve paid enough in that I should get some back, I’m just saying that it’s not likely he’s risking all of his own money on stuff.
I mean, by its very existence TIF is just an admission that taxes are too high, but good luck convincing the single-party rulers of just about any urban area of that little truth.
I’m still trying to figure out what Obama has on Roberts. Must be bad, whatever it is.
It’s not a question whether you know Trump’s sister Lee, since the issue is that he knows her. And he knows she is a rock-solid New York progressive Democrat. As Trump has been for most of his life. But hey, look away, it’s all good.
Maybe on the upside criminal Hillary Clinton gets indicted and the Democrats opt to nominate Trump for their candidate, with the Republicans insisting he’s their guy too? Wow, think of the national unity.
Well, him actually nominating his sister is different than saying he thought she would be good, and I highly doubt he would nominate his sister. As for why he thinks so, I don’t know, but I know party affiliation isn’t supposed to be important, fidelity to the law is. Perhaps his sister understands that, regardless being a democrat, and that is why Trump said she would be good.
My crystal ball is obviously much more cloudy than yours.
Hey, there we go! Party affiliation wouldn’t be important if both parties would simply nominate the one single person to be President: poof! Problem solved! No more faithlessness to the law — because Unity! Trump! Yuger than George Washington!
Perhaps an alien from space will come down, sow magic seeds and the government will shrink to the size it was 200 years ago!
Think of the paradise!
If we think beyond a mere nomination of Trump’s sister to the Supreme Court, as over against the absurdly hypothetical nomination of Ted Cruz to the same position, which of the two would pass the Senate’s advise and consent judgement? Damn sure it wouldn’t be Cruz, because as Trump himself avers, Cruz is hated in the Senate. Whereas the sister of a sitting President endowed with sweeping powers? Oh, that looks like an easy call.
I think it a very good chance Trump would nominate Cruz, as for the rest, it’s just as likely he will sail through the process so they can get rid of him from the Senate if your take is true.
I admit though, my view of the future is mostly hope based rather than the cold certainty you espouse.
Maybe not, but Trump exemplifies the kind of insider wheeler dealer crony capitalist private businessman leveraging access for personal aggrandizement that the tea-party is, ostensibly, opposed to.
Longer version of the earlier Geraghty quote:
If you consider Ted Cruz the conservative ideal or near-ideal in terms of philosophical grounding, legal perspective, and ideological rigor — and the case for that seems pretty self-evident — then watching tea-party leaders flock to Trump over him is pretty damn disappointing.
April 15, 2009 is largely seen as the birth date of the Tea Party movement. Here’s what Trump was saying that day about President Obama:
Later in that interview:
Trump went on to defend the TARP bailouts: “If they didn’t stuff the banks with money, we’d be in depression number two right now, Larry. I mean, we would be strongly in depression number two. So they did the right thing in putting money into the banks.”
Trump, the guy who hosted two fundraisers for Charlie Crist in 2009. He donated to Harry Reid over Sharron Angle in 2010.
Trump, the guy who donated $50,000 to make Rahm Emanuel the mayor of Chicago.
In the founding days of the Tea Party, Donald Trump was exactly what they were fighting against . . . Never once, ever, as TEA Party person, did I think, or hear of any other TEA Party person say, what we really need to fight is Donald Trump! Or any private businessman. Or any private person period!and now some of those adherents have embraced him fully.
Remember, Trump is a fan of Kelo.
Interesting. You can’t nest blockquotes anymore. Geraghty is everything from “If you consider” to “embraced him fully.”
Don’t play the absurd Lee: the Congressional powers that be (who have refused to remove the ClownDisaster despite his manifest tyrannical habits) are salivating at the opportunity to work closely with The Donald to rob the nation blind (it’s always someone else’s wealth they’ll negotiate over), and he with them. The evidence is all around, we merely have to open our eyes to see it. But nasty Ted Cruz calls Sen. McConnell a liar, so speaking the truth about things clearly is out of bounds. Better to lie alongside the big establishment types.
THIS. Why is it that with The Donald, I get the same feeling that I got when Ah-nold swept his way into the California Governor’s Office, only this time on a national scale?
Yes, Better the Donald than Jeb Arbusto or Marco Rube, but…..
Frankly, ethanol isn’t one of my priorities just now. I’m into walls.
On the other hand, there is this, too. The GOPe either still romantically thinks it can win a Hispandering contest, or just cynically wants its cheap gardeners and maids even if the American working class falls apart.
“cynically wants its cheap gardeners and maids”
Well, that and not having the MSM say mean things about them. Which seems like either misplaced faith or a triumph of stupidity over experience.
Ernst, I’ll just point you back to my 12:15 comment
And again, I don’t recall any mention of crony capitalism being a thing for the TEA Party, though I’m sure it wasn’t appreciated by the people that made it up. Kinda like most of them didn’t like abortion or SSM either, but that wasn’t what the TEA Party was specifically about. It was about GOVERNMENT tax and spend policy robbing us and our grandchildren and spending in unsustainable ways that would destroy our country and future. It was never about private business practices anymore than it was about, say, abortion.
Aaaaand here we are. The middle class teetering and the whole system about to collapse in on itself. Personally, I think we’re pretty much doomed at this point, I’m just hoping to die in an English speaking country….
Belize
I think you could characterize the bail-outs as being about private business practices.
To say nothing about the program of interest free loans for the welfare of Wall Street bankers known as quantitative easing.
I guess so Jim, but remember the reason bail outs were necessary (I know, but play along), the government forced by law the banks to make subprime loans. The hazard was multiplied by Wall Street bundling those worthless peices of trash and putting them on the market for the unwary and greedy, but ultimately the blame falls on the lawmakers, not the business people operating within the law.
it will be interesting to see if Mr. President Trump is as bad as everyone is predicting
I seem to recall Wall Street taking certain political actions to get banking laws changed so they could try to stick somebody else with those
tar babiesbundles of worthless paper.And really, that’s a lame argument. Business people are only following the laws that they pay lobbyists to write and politicians to pass.
It’s like listening to a Harlem Globetrotter talking smack about hatin’ on the game and not the playa after the Washington Generals add yet another loss to their record streak.
Well, the bar is so low, it’ll be hard not to exceed expectations, won’t it?
Point taken, although I think there’s culpability aplenty to go around. Given a choice, I might not buy worthless paper. Slice it up enough, I might not know I bought worthless paper, or how much. That’s the bandits at the banks doing that little hokey-pokey.
Hey, I’m not defending the corruption inherent in the system, my point is Geraghty seems to be confusing the TEA Party with the Occupy Movement.
If Trump manages to get control of our borders and reinstate a sane immigration policy, I’ll count him a huge (yuge even) success. If he manages to strengthen the military of this broke dick nation that would make him awesome.
I’d like to throw in something about stabilizing foriegn affairs, but with the Middle East in flames, the treachery of the east, and Europe committed to suicide, I doubt that is possible for any mortal man.
i just don’t see any evidence at all that his intentions aren’t to try and be a good president
i think he truly wants to help poor pitiful failmerica
that’s a big big step forward for this sad little country, which is kind of a wreck
does the sad little thing really need another ideologue right now or does it need a binky and a cup of soup
Greetings:
Say what you will, the little lady sure drew a crowd of commenters. She’s called her tune, let her dance her dance. My hope for America is beyond revival.
Confusion?
“good president” is pretty much empty of meaning, don’t you think?
Good how? Good at what? Good for whom?
Obama’s been a very good President.
For America’s enemies that is.
A good start would be restoring some national pride, but that is problematic.
It is like that Czeck fellow said, America could probably survive what Obama has done to the country, but she can’t survive a population that elected him twice.
“Obama’s been a very good President.”
for gun sales
that too
What sucks about that is there are so many people applying for CCW’s there’s a 6 month wait because of the backlog for background checks. At least in my county.
“Shall not be infringed” my ass…
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[i]If Trump manages to get control of our borders and reinstate a sane immigration policy, I’ll count him a huge (yuge even) success. If he manages to strengthen the military of this broke dick nation that would make him awesome.[/i]
Indeed, the Donald may be willing to make a deal with the GOPe, but the very fact that the GOPe *has* to make a deal rather than just get its lose-more-slowly way rubber stamped is itself refreshing.
Then again, I still prefer Cruz.
Might it be that Palin, Schlafly and some others endorse Trump for one very simple reason, namely, because he can actually *win*?