Human exhalation is not a pollutant. Neither is water vapor. If both were so, then we would be cancers on a host planet, and as such, be in need of eradication. The only moral measure to be taken, if you anthropomorphize the planet — or worse yet, turn it into a vulnerable God troubled by its creations (and how can this not be what you’re doing, given your strict adherence to all manner of evolutionary theory, even that which incorrectly addresses first causes, where it has no business venturing) — is that humanity, and animals, and those things giving aid and life to animals (vegetation, which perversely turns our pollutants back into oxygen, so that we can continue to destroy the earth’s atmosphere and climate), should be terminated, not merely mitigated. And even if you believe is a sliding scale, and accept that mitigation is a moral compromise you can live with — you’ll keep the planet forever sick and warming/cooling, etc., in exchange for life, just so long as the life we get to keep is yours, and you can use it to tell others how they must live — that sliding scale should at least include things like quotas on the number of new lives produced on the planet, which leads to population control, forced sterilization, forced abortion, natural disaster allowance, etc., in order that it isn’t entirely passive and entirely self-serving.
You are, in effect, Malthusians, only you need to be punishing plant life as well for aiding and abetting the destruction of our atmosphere. Meaning, you worship certain rocks, I suppose. And one of your priests has a comical, made-for-TV name.
But then, that’s a description of the true believers. Who are not the same as the politicians, a breed of cynical creature who will work with the useful idiots to secure power, transfer wealth, and tyrannize the rest of us. Al Gore being foremost among these, with John Kerry, John Holdren, and Prince Charles now also serving such a function. Though they don’t believe even for a second their own lunatic assertions — now, climate change is the world’s greatest weapon of mass destruction (I’d go into how the left usurps and refigures language, but who cares, right? Pseudo-intellectual and fundamentally unserious are such dissertations, unless they are delivered years later by those who earlier dismissed them) — they press on with them nonetheless.
And though the wrap themselves in the mantle of science — having perverted that signifier as well (but I’ll be quiet now; don’t want to be even more marginalized than I already am) — they are only interested in “science” such that it has become an arm of political and public policy, much in the same way they believe in legitimate “news media” only inasmuch as it parrots the official government line.
This is all very Soviet, but then, there I go again, being all Visigothy and so likely in line for a good tongue lashing from one of my more nuanced betters.
Look: anthropomorphic global climate change is absolute horse shit, and every real scientist knows it. That we have enough of a groundswell of activists willing to insist otherwise and will a false narrative into a “settled truth” only suggests that the postmodernists were in a sense right when they argued that the very concept of truth, being a man-made construct, is value-neutral, and so belongs to those most able to assert their version of it.
Fortunately, “truth” and “things as they really are,” to borrow a distinction from Rorty, aren’t both controlled by man or his collective will to power and perception. And things as they are is where actual science is located as an investigatory apparatus. Too, it has a way of really punching truth based on phony, concocted, propagandistic narratives right in the face, leaving it sprawled out naked and spread eagle in the dirt for all to see.
Like many of the left’s paradigmatic frames, these lies they repurpose as their “truths” disappear the moment we refuse to accept them — and to accept the policies they implement to keep their falsehoods entrenched in positions of policy power. So resist we much. And we must. Even if it’s racist to do so.
The way to show a lie to be a lie is to attack it head on and put it on the defensive.
And you can tell the real scientists from the partisan hacks living off the industry of government funding for world-wide wealth redistribution plans — camouflaged as science — based around just such an observation. Selling your soul for a pittance and a byline. How utterly sad.
(h/t Geoff B)
And though the wrap themselves in the mantle of science
This mantle is the same one that the corrupt in the Medieval Church used, only instead of “science” they said “scripture,” and who was going to dispute scripture, especially when most of the peeps being oppressed were illiterate and scripture was in Latin if they weren’t?
Authoritarianism just keeps attaching itself to whatever ought to be trustworthy in any era, doesn’t it?
As we all know, their goals are not the ones they state. They are not interested in “clean energy” or “alternative energy” or “sustainable energy.” They are interested in control.
Case in point: there is a power plant in the Mojave that uses mirrors to point sunlight and focus it on water towers to heat the water to drive turbines. That technology actually works pretty well, though it costs a bit more than using coal or gas or nuclear energy as a heat source. They want to shut it down because a few birds are dying. These are not even endangered species (and, if a species is endangered, isn’t that evolution taking its course?), just birds that are always flying around.
They will always find a reason to be against any source of energy, because they don’t want cheap energy because that leads to prosperity and we cannot have that. We need a lousy economy that preservers a permanent dependent class that relies on the government for its survival, so they can maintain their control.
Because fascism.
Drought of 850? Who knew the Mayan collapse was due to their dastardly invention of the internal combustion engine?
In a contest of preferences, birds vs. climate hoaxers, I’m for saving the birds and throwing (or suspending, if we’d rather a more showy end) the climate hoaxers into the beam of burning reflected mirror-light. Birds at least have pretty and wondrous going for them.
DENIER!
TERRORIST!
Those “climate scientists” at the UK Meth [sic] Office promised that snow would be just a memory.
Well, the tendonitis in my right arm says otherwise.
Found via Pinterest:
Google “askew”
and
Google “where is Chuck Norris” and click on the first entry
They may be evil, but they’re also twisted.
– The Progressives, and all their sub-cults, are at war with all of creation and the god that created it.
– That does not usually end well for those that go to war with their creator. But you know what, fuck ’em. I’m not going to follow the christian tenet of trying to teach them the errors of their ways.
– In that sense I will live up to at least one of the egotistical reasons of why people turn away from the word; “well I preyed and god did not answer my prayer.”
– Of course he did. He said no. But you think he should always say yes because you’re so wonderful and deserving, or that theres not a million other reasons for things in creation, so we’ll do what you Atheists want, let ’em burn. That way you should be estatic, what more could you ask for morons?
And though the wrap themselves in the mantle of science…
Indeed, wrapping, as in covering to conceal, in this case, (in fact all cases) their abject ignorance of the science behind the issue.
For those who have not already seen it, this paper, summarized here has some interesting charts about who believes what about astrology. Interestingly enough, being young and liberal tends to be associated with believing that astrology is “scientific”.
Extrapolating this to the rest of the sciences, it is not surprising they follow a guru who got a D in “Rocks for Jocks”.
– Olympics lesson:
– Yesterday in Sochi some of the Ice dance coaches from other countries were again bitching about the judging and scores.
– It seems that Euro’s simply cannot get it through their thick skulls that what you will get if you trash talk an American is a sore ass. They just don’t seem capable of learning that after all these years.
* spoiler alert *
this paper, summarized here
Second link is bustid.
Did they just say “astrology” or did they make it clear that “astrology” is not “astronomy”?
Extrapolating this to the rest of the sciences, it is not surprising they follow a guru who got a D in “Rocks for Jocks”.
– Being Progressive does not involve intelligence, just fawning and ankle licking obedience, and reverence for the Cult personality. All of which faithfully mimics extreme zealousness and religiosity.
Oops. Try again for second link.
Di – the link to the paper does not specify, but if anyone is confusing astronomy with astrology, there is already a problem. From the paper:
the planet has a fever and I’m worried sick about it
Debunking the 97% consensus claim
I’ve often wondered how many data sets there are, and how many of the so-called 97% have had access to the raw climate data before expressing agreement with the scientific conclusions of Mann et al.? If they’re all just uncritically taking the word of a few “climate scientists” and their data – “climate scientists” heavily invested in their theory – that sure doesn’t sound very scientific to me.
Speaking of ManBearPig…
Aw, do we have to, Eingang?
Krauthammer’s Take: Climate Change ‘Is a Matter of Almost Theology’
– I dissagree with Krauthammer. Climate change, in all its variants, is the fundemental faith of the Left. There is nothing “almost” about it with them. Its their religion.
– At this point they are so heavily invested in the hoax I doubt anything short of threat of hanging could move them off thier position.
“almost” be dc weasel word. dude there’s invites involved.
Steve McIntyre sets out the latest phase of the Mann/Steyn debacle, emphases mine:
Anyone doubt that Mann is a raging narcissist and pathological liar?
One of the “tells” for narcissists is that if they’re ever subjected to evaluation and criticism, they never internalize the criticism and in fact will have cherry-picked the proceedings so egregiously that they honestly believe they came out smelling like a rose.
Any narcissist who is forced to go into therapy, for example, will report to all and sundry that he was given a clean bill of health, regardless of what the therapist actually said. All it takes is one concession from the therapist — “you’re obviously an intelligent guy” — and that’s what the narcissist takes away. The rest was like water off a duck’s back.
Unless the therapist never said anything nice, in which case the therapist was a total quack.
One of the two. There’s absolutely no getting through to them.
One of the “tells” for narcissists is that if they’re ever subjected to evaluation and criticism, they never internalize the criticism and in fact will have cherry-picked the proceedings so egregiously that they honestly believe they came out smelling like a rose.
This is a characteristic of sociopaths, as well.
>Anyone doubt that Mann is a raging narcissist and pathological liar<
leave the "nobel winner" alone! go back to the birds.
/sarc off
What is the word for someone who has a solid ego but is almost paranoidly suspicious of flattery?
This is a characteristic of sociopaths, as well.
All sociopaths are narcissists but not vice-versa. My dad was a narcissist but he had a conscience. He didn’t try to con people into doing what he wanted because he wasn’t socially sophisticated enough to be manipulative. (Prolly scored somewhere on the Asperger—Autism spectrum.)
I don’t know the tells for sociopathy where they diverge from narcissism, at least not at a distance.
What is the word for someone who has a solid ego but is almost paranoidly suspicious of flattery?
Well-adjusted.
>What is the word for someone who has a solid ego but is almost paranoidly suspicious of flattery? <
pervert works. ask glaad?
Some time ago I commented on one of the NRO threads where they were talking about Mann suing them and Steyn.
There was another commenter there who had no avatar. I mentioned that McIntyre’s math had made a fool of Mann but the commenter said something like, “well, his math couldn’t have been that good because nobody else was impressed by it.”
I sparred with him a bit and it was the same stuff. The poo-pooing was predicated on “everybody says so” and “if they’re wrong, how come none of the authorities recognize it.”
Looking back, I think that commenter may have been Mann himself. Sock-puppeting his critics’ posts sounds exactly like his style.
Then reading the McIntyre linked above I run into this:
Appeal to authority, dismissal of credibility, refusal to take the criticism into account.
Yup. I think I may have been sparring with the little pissant himself.
One of the “tells” for narcissists is that if they’re ever subjected to evaluation and criticism, they never internalize the criticism and in fact will have cherry-picked the proceedings so egregiously that they honestly believe they came out smelling like a rose.
I think the Left is almost entirely comprised of narcissists. I cannot find one that will actually debate on issues without them either 1) completely dismissing everything I say cuz TEATARD or 2) “I got this pic of a Confederate flag displayed at the edge of a TEATARD rally so EVIDENCE that all Republicans are teh RAAAAACIST. QED everything you say is LimbaughFauxNews LIES.
And oh. Even after I tore up my last beg letter from the RNC and hung up on the RNC guy who called me, I got TWO letters from ’em … another beg one plus a Republican Strategy Survey. That one really frosts me. Rather than tossing it in the round file or filling it out. I will attach a nasty letter outlining MY points and send it back.
Now. I’m still trying to decide whether to ignore the Census Bureau which just sent us an invasive “Community Survey” that has to be filled out BY LAW or just make up answers to it.
I’m really steamed.
I think the Left is almost entirely comprised of narcissists.
From the sorely missed Dr. Sanity, The Political Left and the Seven Deadly Sins of Leftism:
You don’t have to be a genuine clinical narcissist to be a Leftist, but you sure get to act like one.
Stop Making Sense – Talking Heads
or just make up answers to it.
What would Andrew Breitbart do?
Either be hilarious or belligerent or both. And be ready to become an internet verb should the census bureau make a stink.
@page 127 potpl
But those present at the
meetings were not read the text of the Charter, so they did not know
precisely what it was they were protesting against. By this time they
were the laughing stock of the entire nation and the campaign disappeared
into thin air with a wave of the hand, in an act of sheer.
absurdity. The upshot of it was that the members of the country’s
cultural community were henceforth divided, by name, into those
who had signed the Charter and those who, in the field of Czech
‘culture’ 0), were prepared, in response to a call from above for
extra-special obedience, to condemn something without giving it a
hearing. Each of those who condemned the Charter will no doubt
find, individually and collectively, suitable ways of describing themselves
and their actions. They include those who immediately sought
some excuse or other. After all, the Czechs are past masters of the
art of finding excuses. Judged merely in general terms, one can say
that Czech national culture and its sense of morality had never
before suffered the sort of outrage theydid from the organizers of
the ‘protest’ against the Charter and what was intended as a mass
disavowal of it. The fact that the establishment gave the task of
defending its positions to the usual political and journalistic hacks
was probably a case of Hobson’s choice in an emergency, but it
gained it nothing and was just one further error, since those gentlemen’s
standards are notorious. As could be expected, they immediately
brought into play against the Charter a whole set of slanders,
distortions, abuse, half-truths and absolute falsehoods which all
represent the dismal range of their capacity. Ispeak from experience
as one who has been a favourite target for their sort of behaviour for
the past thirty years, and who could well lay claim to the laurels of
seniority and worthy service. Though the powers that be may not
know it, or rather, would sooner not know it, nay, cannot afford to
know it (for where else would they find more obedient, unscrupulous
and servile creatures), the media are the principal, albeit
unintentional, creators and encouragers of opposition, since they
are totaJIy suspect and nobody believes them. People almost automatically
take for gospel the opposite of what the papers say. Once
all-powerful, the media were capable of pointing the finger that
condemned people to death. As they lost all credibility they also lost
some of their power, and at the very least were obliged to change
their methods, if not their ends. Nowadays, they do not directly fix
the noose around people’s necks, but they do endeavour to destroy
their honour and slay them with a hail of repeated slanders and lies,
oh god yes
The left is looking more and more like scientologists every day.
They spend their time and money chasing the rabbit,
they shout each other down when someone wants out,
they constantly evaluate people for signs of needing to be reprogrammed or intimitdated
they think that the world outside their bubble is a conspiracy,
Obstacles to their plans are fake things that only impede them because they don’t wish them away hard enough
they want to save people from their bogeyman yet hold the people in contempt,
People can only be saved from the bogeyman by being subjected to what they have to go through
They yell at an ashtray drill sergeant style and make it obey them with their own hands thinking this gives them the mental ability to command people the way that they commanded the ashtray. You are just that ashtray when they yell at you.
They speak in jargon gibberish to stay away from sensitive topics, and bind them together so they don’t stray off and tlak to normal people and think bad things.
they get in people’s faces doing anything they can think of when turned loose and then try to hide behind whoever unleashed them, confused about their own responsibility regarding any consequences…
Suggestions:
Do you have any dependents?
12 million illegal immigrants; 3 million crack heads; 42 million unemployable people, 2 million people in over 243 prisons; and 535 more in the U.S. House and Senate.
Race?
Klingon, Kardashian, “no, thanks; bad knees,” American
But only if you’re up for fighting them off after you fail to comply.
Race? “Quarter-mile on a closed course. For pinks.”
Moreover, the machinery of
violence is continually expanding because, among other things, the
group in power feels no reliable support from the population. The
movement from which the ideology of the present regime derived
originally has been marked from the outset by a traumatic awareness
of an incongruity between its ‘historical mission’ and the
possibility of ever gaining a sufficiently broad and spontaneous
support to carry that mission out. Various forms of police activity,
therefore, have always appeared in utter secrecy even before power
was seized, and subsequently, the police apparatus has expanded to
such an unprecedented degree, partly because the official ideology
contains nothing to inhibit such a development. The material, and
ultimately the moral, burden that this places on society has no precedent
in history. To make this burden bearable, the totalitarian state
has had to raise the policing function to one of the greatest virtues.
In television films and propaganda programmes, it is no longer a
worker or a party secretary who embodies all the finest human
qualities, but a cop. The vast amounts of energy spent on maintaining
‘order’, however, contribute nothing to the development of
society because its sole purpose is to prevent change.
@page 199
Oh goodness, di, just read your suggestions outloud and hubby and I are having the best laugh!!
He wants to hug you. :-)
I Googled “census funny answers” but couldn’t come up with very many, except that dependents one.
Apparently, people are reporting “Jedi” as a religion and sci-fi races.
Plus this: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/18627/harassed-by-the-u-s-census-a-friend-tells-her-frightening-story-plus-important-video/
They could make your life a living hell, but it might be a good object lesson for the ages were it all videotaped.
Just sayin’
Another narcissist, with magic hat in portfolio.
This Must Be The Place
“Kerry talked about greenhouse gases”
up against the wall motherfucker, oh “do you have the hat?” – baambi
dicentra says February 17, 2014 at 9:55 pm:
Apparently, people are reporting “Jedi” as a religion and sci-fi races.
Well, if they do send someone to ask you about your choices, if you picked “Jedi” for religion you are required to do the Jedi Mind Trick on them.
*waves hand*
“You don’t need to see my identification…”
Alas, no connection to the Force exists so it won’t work.
(I normally put “Human” for Race, but if I want to be a smartass I can always pick “Cylon” instead.)
I think I’ll put New Type.
Do you get a Mobile Suit?
Scientists now predict that by the end of the century, the sea could rise by a full meter…
Kerry, MSU; actually scientists SWAG that sea level rise is a whopping 3mm/year, which would be an equally whopping 10.28 inches by the end of the century. Interestingly enough, Jakarta is something like 40% below sea level even as we speak and averages more rainfall than 3mm/year, so I am guessing they will cope with the putative 10.28 inches.
Regarding the Census, here is how to deal with them.
“Do you get a Mobile Suit?”
It’s probably cheaper to exile men into space.
Built by the Dutch, yes?
Drove my Chevy to the levy but the levy was dry-y-y…
Maybe I’ll put “tissue mass and product of rape because all penetration is rape”.
Something to remember: the “scientist” Bill Nye has a BS degree in Mechanical Engineering.
Making him an authorative spokesman regarding all things AGW, because . . .
Sorry, but no one has explained that last missing bit to me yet.
Obama’s speech today at Safeway is about new truck standards.
Unfortunately, his last batch of truck standard improvements have made trucks 1) more expensive and 2) less reliable. They can perhaps truthfully say that companies save fuel costs, but that is by far overshadowed by the increase cost in purchasing and repairing the beasts.
Everyone is buying up old trucks.
We had ONE of those newer trucks (heavy – duty, not a pick up type). POS. ALways breaking down. But clean enough you could run it in your warehouse w/o gases building up.
I think the Left is almost entirely comprised of narcissists. I cannot find one that will actually debate on issues without them either 1) completely dismissing everything I say cuz TEATARD or 2) “I got this pic of a Confederate flag displayed at the edge of a TEATARD rally so EVIDENCE that all Republicans are teh RAAAAACIST. QED everything you say is LimbaughFauxNews LIES. –
I keep repeating this little bit from David Horowitz’s latest book.
They cannot debate, because their are arguing from a moral position, while you (or I) are not. Thus, even if you have a better grasp of the facts, that does not make you right.
Darleen, I refused to answer the survey, told them “No” when they followed up by phone, and kicked the in-person drone off my front step. So far, I am still a free man.
I had a coworker who did the same, Red.
If my trailer registration renewal notice can get lost in the mail, and if the check I finally was able to write and mail back to the county tag office — after I got the state DOR to re-send the notice — still hasn’t cleared, there’s no telling where my copy of that community survey ended up.
This practicality,this attention to experience, to workable arrangements, explains why the conservative community can be liberal and tolerant toward its members in ways that the progressive left cannot.
– Well that, and experience becomes noticably of minimal importance when your chief demographic support is so young they have none.
– Concerning the survey, I simply wrote NA in all the entries, and a note in the signiture box stating that I was not interested in the Martian exploration expedition.
Steyne online has this bit:
Linky.
– More signs that the Left has blown the “all clear” dog whistle for dumping Bumblefuck:
The poll asked those who voted for Obama’s reelection a simple question: “Do you regret voting for Barack Obama?”
* Overall, 71 percent said yes, 26 percent no.
* 80 percent of whites said yes, 61 percent of blacks said no and 100 percent of Hispanics said yes.
* 84 percent of women said yes, and just 61 percent of men agreed.
* 55 percent of Democrats said yes, as did 71 percent of independents.
– Among the disillusioned, Women, Hispanics and Independents, which should really fuck with the Proggies minds.
– Yet, for all of that, were the election restaged today Romney still gets creamed, because so many voted against him rather than for Jug ears.
– All of which will be exactly the same in ’16 if the GOP gets to run another RINO/Wimp, and it will be an even more selfish loss because Hildebeast is not that popular with the younger Left.
This just in: The daughter of one of my cow-orkers is on American Idol:
Darleen, let me suggest you read this:
Post about answering Census Bureau
It’s disappointing that the typically sensible John Derbyshire has punted on “climate change,” believing in anthropological warming but not the lefty political response to warmist hysteria. For such a dogged empiricist he ought to consider this graph of climate projections plotted against real temperatures.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/CMIP5-90-models-global-Tsfc-vs-obs-thru-2013.png
See also Sowell’s argument about constrained vs. unconstrained visions.
No way can that be true. Romney’s electablity was a settled as science. Top men said so.
Top. Men.
Hillary is inevitable. Inevitable!, I tells ya.
car I see that one quite often, how dumb an argument can an educated person like Mr. Forman make? Even if you accept the AGW theory as fact, it still needs a policy response that is open to debate.
….it still needs a policy response that is open to debate.
– No, no, no, its settled science. Just ask the imminent physicist John “I can find climate change in a soda cracker but I can’t find my form DDS180 with 10 years and the entire US governments help” sKerry. Deniers!
Indeed. Why, back in 1989 or so, Phil Hansen predicted that the West Side Highway in NYC would be underwater by now.
So much for predictions. Anyone can predict. What matters is repeated, successful prediction. Which is something the global alarmism community has yet to dabble in.
The 97% folks are holed up at Skeptical Science, which is a website run by a guy with (IIRC) a physics undergrad degree and a whole lot of firm conviction.
When I filled out my 2010 census I put 2 in the how many people in this house box.
Several weeks later a drone came to the house to follow up on my census. I was told that I had to fill out all the questions. After refusing several times I got her to go away by adding that the 2 consisted of 1 guy and 1 gal and our initials were A and H.