First Federal “hate crime” charges brought in case where white male is perp and victim is black
The Obama administration announced on Tuesday that it will finally be prosecuting one of these “Knockout Game” assaults as a hate crime, not because the black mobs savagely lynching these helpless white victims are unmistakably racially motivated, but because a white person finally perpetrated one against a black man.
As reported by the Washington Times, 27-year-old Conrad Alvin Barrett was arrested on Thursday for attacking a 79-year-old black man and charged with a felony hate crime…after months of zero federal action on relentless black-on-white assaults and murders, and of the news media tirelessly downplaying the vicious crimes as an “overblown” issue.
Either prosecute all the Knockout perps as ‘hate crimes’ or get rid of the racialist category all-together. This blatantly racist posturing in our OUR Federal justice system is unacceptable.
Eric Holder must go.
I understand you are approaching this from a principled standpoint, but I’m sorry, I just can’t seem to force myself to rally around some twenty something punk ass cowardly piece of shit that sucker punched a little old man.
It’s fine to complain the trend isn’t being taken seriously enough, but I’m not going to cry over whatever happens to this worthless pile of excrement.
The a**wipe perp needs to be smacked down hard. All of them do.
THIS is the reason I’ve never ever liked the so-called “hate crimes” enhancement. It is too prone to politicization.
And when the DOJ is only going after certain people based on race, then what little credibility the Feds have in maintaining “justice for all” fails.
The Republic dies.
What I heard was that the state charge for what he did could lead to a life sentence, while the hate crime charge is a much lighter sentence. So no, opposing a federal hate crime charge against this jackass isn’t “rallying around.”
It’s calling for actual justice to be done — and not just to this one perp.
My understanding of a hate crime was it is an enhancement to a crime, like if your crime gets 3 years in jail, and it is deemed a hate crime, you get the 3 years plus whatever.
If they are two separate things I’m clueless and never mind me…
Also, I think a life sentence for sucker punching someone is ridiculous. I’d rather see him get like a year or two and pay the victim’s medical bills plus a hundred grand or two in restitution, something like that.
I hasten to add that’s if the old guy he punched has recovered. If he was permanently damaged I’ll revise…
There may be a state hate-crime law, but there’s no applicable federal assault/battery law for this to enhance.
This is yet one more example of President Obama and Eric Holder giving the finger to the American people.
At the state level, ‘hate crime’ is an enhancement (or allegation) in those states with such statutes on the books.
At the Fed level, this cretin was charged with violation of the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act … penalty is $250k in fines and up to 10 years in jail.
And so about all of those incidents actually caught on camera/willingly posted on YouTube (with appropriate admissions against interest that make them admissible in court)? Those do not meet the standards?
Or is the standard in that law the one that specifies that it is only appropriate for black victims/white perpetrators?
And (I realize this will be literally invisible to those in power) wouldn’t the appropriate use be against ANY perp committing a crime against ANY victim, since they would have to have some measure of ill will or they would not have committed the felony in the first place? Or was the whole idea to continue to subdivide the nation by ethnicity?
The hyphen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fuzLTrwVbc
Aren’t most crimes of this type aggravated assault/manslaughter/murder two/murder one/capital murder or one of the above? Hate crimes legislation is just piling on and making a crime against a protected group “more than”.
Crime is crime is crime.
I’m pretty sure that this is much the same as the DOJ’s attitude toward violations of civil rights or voting rights laws by persons of color.
Because white privilege!!!
Surely not, McGehee.
That would be raaaaacis.
progg privilege: proggs lie about everything and the mbm cover for them.
“This is yet one more example of President Obama and Eric Holder giving the finger to the American people”
I think it’s worse than that. I think this is the Obama administration actively promoting racial/civil strife. I think he and Holder would like nothing better than a race war break out.
Oh boy! More unconscious racism!
I’m pretty sure this Dyson dude is consciously incubating hatred toward the Robertson’s Christianity.
Also, I’m startind g to wonder if the reports of only 3-5% being gay isn’t underestimating horribly the number of godless closeted amoral bisexuals.
Or at least those into gay pron…
“part of a minority black
majority whitesupremacist culture that either consciously or unconsciously incubates hatred toward those who are different.”>I’m startind g to wonder if the reports of only 3-5% being gay isn’t underestimating <
you may be right about the ruining class
GMA HOST ROBIN ROBERTS COMES OUT AS GAY IN FACEBOOK POST
They don’t really call Good Morning America JEE EM AY do they? I’ve been waiting for DEE CUE to go back to being Dairy Queen. In vain it would seem. Don’t even get me started on KAY EFF SEA and EL JAY ESS.
A crime is a crime. How do you differentiate between a crime and a hate crime? All part of the politicization of race, gender, preference, etc, etc, etc.
F that noise.
Oh come on Red! Don’t tell me you wouldn’t feel better about being beat to death for your money than you would being beat to death because of your race! I mean, the first case is bad enough, but ya gotta know the second is much, much worse!
i’m glaad that the demonrats could get a new kkk to do its bidding.
Dead is dead, lee. At least I’m hoping that would be those nonracist robbers or racist beaters.
BTW, just got into reloading. Any other PWers doing it?
>just got into reloading.<
are supplies easy to obtain?
We have two reloaders and all kinds of supplies. I am trying my best to get Hubs to teach me to use them.
LBascom’s link to the LA Times provides a couple surprises. The Rose Bowl Committee has given permission for a ‘gay wedding’ to proceed on a float, during the iconic Rose Bowl Parade.
Even more surprising is the vehemence in that article’s comment section. This might become even bigger than the Phil Robertson kerfuffle.
http://discussions.latimes.com/20/lanews/la-me-ln-gay-wedding-rose-parade-20131228/10?page=3
can you say “backlash”? um i hear ducks
roses are red
violets are blue
the rose bowl
is run
by faggots like you
for the creationists crowd: faggots are anti darwinian
how nice that the “ruining class” is into perversion. what’s next child sacrifice…..?
hate crimes in general are very gay
my favorite hate crimes are the fake ones where fat lesbians cut themselves
Is it wrong to admit that I’ve been listening to “Aenima” by Tool quite a bit of late?
“Learn to swim, I’ll see you down in Arizona bay” indeed…
used to do it for perverts
A BOLD DEFENSE OF FAT-SHAMING:
>There’s battle lines being drawn
Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong<
"everybody" is not "wrong" so hippie take another toke
Rep. J. Castro calls Benghazi a “Fairy Tale”
I say he’s right, Grimm like, it was.
A crime is a crime. How do you differentiate between a crime and a hate crime?
…and how is murdering someone out of “hate” worse than murdering someone in a cold-blooded effort to remove a witness?
Or killing someone you don’t know or don’t care about for a momentary thrill…just because you felt like and there they were and no witnesses around.
Yep, there are no doubt psychopathic killers who can claim they weren’t motivated by hatred at their trial. :-/
>LET US now imagine that one day something in our greengrocer snaps and he stops putting up the slogans merely to ingratiate himself. He stops voting in elections he knows are a farce. He begins to say what he really thinks at political meetings. And he even finds the strength in himself to express solidarity with those whom his conscience commands him to support. In this revolt the greengrocer steps out of living within the lie. He rejects the ritual and breaks the rules of the game. He discovers once more his suppressed identity and dignity. He gives his freedom a concrete significance. His revolt is an attempt to live within the truth.
The bill is not long in coming. He will be relieved of his post as manager of the shop and transferred to the warehouse. His pay will be reduced. His hopes for a holiday in Bulgaria will evaporate. His children’s access to higher education will be threatened. His superiors will harass him and his fellow workers will wonder about him. Most of those who apply these sanctions, however, will not do so from any authentic inner conviction but simply under pressure from conditions, the same conditions that once pressured the greengrocer to display the official slogans. They will persecute the greengrocer either because it is expected of them, or to demonstrate their loyalty, or simply as part of the general panorama, to which belongs an awareness that this is how situations of this sort are dealt with, that this, in fact, is how things are always done, particularly if one is not to become suspect oneself. The executors, therefore, behave essentially like everyone else, to a greater or lesser degree: as components of the post-totalitarian system, as agents of its automatism, as petty instruments of the social auto-totality.
Thus the power structure, through the agency of those who carry out the sanctions, those anonymous components of the system, will spew the greengrocer from its mouth. The system, through its alienating presence ín people, will punish him for his rebellion. It must do so because the logic of its automatism and self-defense dictate it. The greengrocer has not committed a simple, individual offense, isolated in its own uniqueness, but something incomparably more serious. By breaking the rules of the game, he has disrupted the game as such. He has exposed it as a mere game. He has shattered the world of appearances, the fundamental pillar of the system. He has upset the power structure by tearing apart what holds it together. He has demonstrated that living a lie is living a lie. He has broken through the exalted facade of the system and exposed the real, base foundations of power. He has said that the emperor is naked. And because the emperor is in fact naked, something extremely dangerous has happened: by his action, the greengrocer has addressed the world. He has enabled everyone to peer behind the curtain. He has shown everyone that it is possible to live within the truth. Living within the lie can constitute the system only if it is universal. The principle must embrace and permeate everything. There are no terms whatsoever on which it can co-exist with living within the truth, and therefore everyone who steps out of line denies it in principle and threatens it in its entirety.
This is understandable: as long as appearance is not confronted with reality, it does not seem to be appearance. As long as living a lie is not confronted with living the truth, the perspective needed to expose its mendacity is lacking. As soon as the alternative appears, however, it threatens the very existence of appearance and living a lie in terms of what they are, both their essence and their all-inclusiveness. And at the same time, it is utterly unimportant how large a space this alternative occupies: its power does not consist in its physical attributes but in the light it casts on those pillars of the system and on its unstable foundations. After all, the greengrocer was a threat to the system not because of any physical or actual power he had, but because his action went beyond itself, because it illuminated its surroundings and, of course, because of the incalculable consequences of that illumination. In the post-totalitarian system, therefore, living within the truth has more than a mere existential dimension (returning humanity to its inherent nature), or a noetic dimension (revealing reality as it is), or a moral dimension (setting an example for others). It also has an unambiguous political dimension. If the main pillar of the system is living a lie, then it is not surprising that the fundamental threat to it is living the truth. This is why it must be suppressed more severely than anything else.
In the post-totalitarian system, truth in the widest sense of the word has a very special import, one unknown in other contexts. In this system, truth plays a far greater (and, above all, a far different) role as a factor of power, or as an outright political force. How does the power of truth operate? How does truth as a factor of power work? How can its power-as power-be realized?
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gd tea partier sez john mccain
Heh. Never heard it.
But the lyrics bring a smile to my stone face.
BTW, just got into reloading. Any other PWers doing it?
Red, only way I can afford to shoot my 30-30 here. Quality hunting ammo is about $2.00 a round. Cheapo PPU is still affordable at 60 cents per for range work, and the brass is good enough for reloads. These bullets work out at 75 cents per plus the brass, so I can reload with quality components for about half the factory price.
I reload also…when I drop the magazine and slam a new one home in the old 1911.
I’ve reloaded for decades. From 30-06 to 44 Mag, to 7.62×39. Latest addition is 40 S&W.
Mind your components. Too much powder thrown in a load, for whatever reason, makes for a very bad day at the range or in the field.
My local Retailer of Death (TM) has primers and bullets, but powder is scarce. He thinks/hopes that factory ammo demand is slowing down and powder should start freeing up in march. I’m not so sanguine.
In the meantime, I have years of saved brass to clean. No walnut media shortage, thank goodness
I reload also…when I drop the magazine and slam a new one home in the old 1911.
Well, heck. I can do that.
Heh. Get a Lee shell holder, a rechargeable drill, and this. Deprime, clean your pockets firstly, inspect and trim your case to length and polish your brass in one fast operation. You can hand-finish with 00 steel wool if you like it nice and shiny.
Mmmmm…silvertips!
serr8d, I’ll see your silvertips and raise you Hornady xtp +p in 45 acp.
We loaded up these for my friend’s Marlin 1894. They looked like enormous lipsticks.
Silver whistle, I thought the authorities looked askance at firearms in the British isles. Or has Scotland seceded?
Blake, are you using a 3-die set? Consider adding a 4th die. I use the Lee Classic 3-hole turret press and couldn’t convert to the 4-hole turret because that would mean the new press. So, I just bought an extra 3-hole turret and mounted all my factory crimp dies on it. An extra step with the changeout, but I’m not really doing huge volume.
Oh they do Red, throughout the entirety of these benighted Isles. Centre fire rifles are legal, but the permitting process is fairly onerous. Good reason to own is needed, and the ground to be shot on in most cases needs to be named. All firearms are registered by serial no. No semi-auto centre fire rifles, only bolt, single shot/straight pull, break action and lever action. Semi-autos are legal in .22 lr and shotguns. The process for shotgun permits is similar but the ‘good reason’ standard is as simple as saying ‘for shooting clays’. Permits last for 5 years. Only one rifle per calibre is generally permitted (unless, say, you want a bolt action and s/a .22). And, centre fire ammo is strictly limited to number held and bought at one time; except for this little kink. If you reload, you may buy as many FMJ bullets as you wish, and they don’t go on your ticket. Must be because they don’t hurt to get shot with. And shotgun ammo isn’t limited. Probably for the same reason.
If you hunt with your rifle, the quarry must that listed on your certificate. So, no shooting any hogs with that deer rifle. And that deer rifle better be shooting 100 grn bullets or better at a minimum of 2450 fps if those deer are of the red persuasion. Which means that that 30-30 can’t be used legally on deer using any store bought ammo that I know of. On account of it’s not lethal, or something.
And a handgun is right out of order, unless it’s a muzzle loader, or if a centre fire revolver that has an extension permanently fixed to the grip and a barrel not less than 30 cm long. Saying that, there are some exemptions granted to deer stalkers for humane dispatch – I have heard of a chap who carries a .38 sp for that purpose.
Whose maiden aunt wrote those regulations, SW?
No wonder there are few great shoot-em-up movies from the UK.
UK firearms legislation, leigh, has been written by people with absolutely no knowledge of firearms. Pretty much the same as everywhere, in my experience. Added to the deep love for the state and contempt for individual liberty that Britain has. It’s like Feinstein’s wet dream, 24/7.
So you don’t have to use a misericorde? I’m disappointed.
It’s like Feinstein’s wet dream, 24/7.
That’s not very sporting of them, to say the least.
I have a good friend who married an Aussie girl. While (whilst) chatting with her, the subject of firearms came up and did I regret that. She proceeded to lecture me about firearms deaths in the US versus Australia. I pointed out to her that since it was illegal to own firearms in Australia that this was hardly a fair comparison. It didn’t matter, since she was wound up and off to the races about how we are such a murderous bunch over here.
Needless to say, I remembered a prior engagement as soon as she stopped for air. Haven’t seen them since.
Working on it, but mainly over disagreement as to whether socialism has been tried. Apparently the English say it has, and it sucks — the Scots say it hasn’t.
As sad as it makes me to think that an independent Scotland would go socialist, if it makes it easier for England to dump the last vestiges I’m for it. And if the Scots can’t learn from anyone else’s mistakes, they’ll learn from their own.
I heard that this guy straight admitted he picked his target by race. If so, a little easier to prove hate crime.
For the others, it is harder to prove, like someone always mugging white people (after all they have all the money).
I assumed that the idea of a federal “hate crime” was a backup for someone getting acquitted or a light sentence where “justice was denied”. If so, let the locals have their say before moving in Mr. Holder.
If that’s the state of modern Scotland, it is to mourn.
How far the mighty have fallen!
funny leigh, some of the worst murder stories I have read about have come out of Australia. Go to the Crimelibrary and put in “Australia”. Aussie don’t need guns to be dangerous people.
Despite its size, Australia’s the Port Aurthur shooter had a body count of 35 beating the Virginia Tech shooter by 3 people.
Norway can claim the record for shooting spree death.
As sad as it makes me to think that an independent Scotland would go socialist, if it makes it easier for England to dump the last vestiges I’m for it. And if the Scots can’t learn from anyone else’s mistakes, they’ll learn from their own.
On 18 Sep 2014 we will have a referendum on whether we will remain part of the UK or become independent. I am reasonably sanguine that the majority of Scotland’s inhabitants will reject the vision proposed by the nationalist socialists currently in power. England would, however, benefit enormously from shedding the rump of socialist MP’s returned to Westminster from north of the border if King Alex The Oleaginous is anointed.
I seem to suffer from a surfeit of italics.
“that has an extension permanently fixed to the grip and a barrel not less than 30 cm long ”
12″ barrel? yeesh. That’s practically a revolver carbine.
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That is some pretty lame bullshit right there.
“nationalist socialists”
Greaaaaat.
The Aussie’s aren’t too shabby in the rape and stabbing department, either. Car-jacking and gang-rape are almost team sports over there.
– Only 359 million to go, and OCare will be universal!
– Note: As best as anyone can tell whats really happened is 1.1 million additional signees to Medicare/Medicaid/MediCal. We’re still trying to figure out just what OCare has accomplished for almot a billion bucks that couldn’t have been done before.
We’re still trying to figure out just what OCare has accomplished for almot a billion bucks that couldn’t have been done before. – See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52325#comment-1046438
You can’t spell “Fundamental Transformation” without “mental”. Or without borrowing an extra trillion bucks, come to that, and then blaming the additional debt on the Republicans. (Which, given the current crop, might not be far wrong.)
– “The most transparant administration Evah|.”
– Wait…..
– Which is to say, young healthyy people are not signing up in droves.
Palaeo, that’s actually what many of them are — promoting socialism by way of nationalism. It sends up red flags (with certain central geometric figures in white and black), doesn’t it?
serr8d, I don’t reload. Those are factory rounds from Hornady. The price isn’t bad, about $16 per 20.
For obvious reasons, I only shoot the Hornady’s a few times a year. The recoil is rather stout, even in a 1911. It sure is fun to hit a steel plate with the 45 acp +p round. The difference in sound between a 45 acp and a 9 mm on a steel plate is quite noticeable.
I don’t know that it’s worth it to develop a load for my 1911. I can get good quality reloads shipped to my front door for about $200 per 500. And the price on new ammo has come back down to earth also.
As the saying goes, I don’t expect to save any money by reloading. Just shoot more.
Besides, it adds to the story about the crazed teapartier with enough ammo for every resident of Siler whistle’s village.
Let’s hope we don’t have to go all Khyber Pass and start having to make our own rifles.
BTW, just got into reloading. Any other PWers doing it? – See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52325#comments
For a few years now. .357,.45,.40, and 308 and .223.
my nephew has my 12 ga, reloader.
I get most of my components on line or at gun shows.