December 17, 2013

“12 Republicans Vote to Advance Budget Deal That Boosts Spending”

So it’s a one-party country, with certain players using show votes to keep the rabble confused. That way they can run for reelection as something other than what they actually are, and nobody’s the wiser. What of it?

That’s just political reality. The ways of DC. And you can’t fight reality. Better to submit to it for your own benefit than to stand there stupidly fighting its inevitability with nothing but your pointy little principles in hand. Pragmatism!

Now. Get your asses in line, Hobbits! And prepare to be governed. Good and hard.

Posted by Jeff G. @ 9:29am
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Comments (119)

  1. Jeff Flake has been a severe disappointment. Enjoy being part of the problem, Jeff. Welcome to the list.

  2. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    –That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

    –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

  3. A number of those look like revenge votes, or message votes, to me. Ron Johnson’s in particular, to name one name among others. So, message received, you rat bastards.

  4. Over the last 3 years, you’ve made your case to the American people, and they’re declining what you’re offering. They don’t want what you’re selling. They’re not all convinced that economic collapse is imminent. You wrapped your message in a bunch of birtherism kenya socialist benghazi instead of a clear message of returning power and revenue to the states.

    You blew it, and now you’re bitter about it. When John Fucking Boehner isn’t afraid of you any more, you’ve lost.

  5. Step 1: Claim victory
    Step 2: ?
    Step 3: ??
    Step 4: Actual victory

  6. It appears that you failed to notice this, hellomynameisblinkered: this particular move was not made by “the American people.” #analysisfail

  7. You wrapped your message in a bunch of birtherism kenya socialist benghazi instead of a clear message of returning power and revenue to the states.

    You wrap your cartoon bullshit in more cartoon bullshit. Please go shoot yourself right where those creatures you speak of live. If you need a firearm to accomplish that, I’m sure we can help you with that.

  8. Ah, c’mon, Pablo! You know that PW is just loaded with juicy crypto-birtherist goodness! Right next to all the lolcat posts!

    I just know I saw it somewhere overthere.

  9. Some of us can easily pretend that there was about a 60-person swing in Republican representatives in the House not all that long ago, and that that change occurred for some good reason or other.

    Probably not Benghazi or birtherism, though. Wonder what it could have been?

  10. They’re not all convinced that economic collapse is imminent.

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html

    Yeah, right… (Pay close attention to the one at the bottom marked “Unfunded Liabilities”, meaning those are payments promised without the actual money to pay for them. More than $127 Trillion as I type this.)

    Why do you hate balanced budgets, Dog Vomit?

  11. Riddle me this. How is it that you’re so quick to pull up Obama’s poll numbers, but you apparently aren’t aware that the Tea Party poll numbers are far worse?

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/166217/tea-party-favorability-falls-lowest-yet.aspx

    How is that even possible that you’d miss that? Do you think it doesn’t matter? If it doesn’t matter, then why cite O’s numbers. If it does matter, then shouldn’t you be concerned that the country hates that tea party worse than just about anything else?

  12. *wasn’t

  13. People’s opinions about the Tea Party would matter if Tea Party was some kind of single thing.

    But sadly: no.

    If a third party were to arise, though, the other two would try to kill it. That’s game theory for you.

  14. Some of us can easily pretend that there was about a 60-person swing in Republican representatives in the House not all that long ago, and that that change occurred for some good reason or other. – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comment-1042092

    Your tea party caucus has 48 members in it. That’s 10% of 1/3 of government. Don’t you think you need to win a few more seats? Because there’s a lot of other 10%’s that would like to have their way too.

  15. It’s Alinsky bullet # 1 all over again. It’s all he’s got, so why not use it?

  16. Your tea party

    False premise. Try again.

  17. Your tea party caucus hasd 48 members in it.

    Fixed. Is there nothing you can’t get wrong?

  18. Riddle me this: Why are you still here?

  19. It’s interesting that the Democrats are at their lowest point since Obama took office, but all you hear about are how bad the GOP and the Tea Party are doing.

    I wonder why the wholly-owned propaganda arm of the Democrat Party (aka the MSM) wouldn’t point out how badly their bosses are doing?

    (Not really, but that level of sarcasm requires one to pretend to a lack of knowledge. DV doesn’t have to pretend, which is why he never seems to try sarcasm.)

  20. Why are you still here?

    Anyone can defeat an imaginary zombie army.

  21. The TEA Party is not an actual party in that there is no hierarchy of command. There is however, one (Wahn) POTUS in charge of the executive branch of our government.

    Now (pay attention), which is more relevant: The POTUS or a loose collection of individuals with no de facto chain of command when poll numbers are to be counted?

    Why, you yourself have just conceded that the POTUS is no more important than the TEA Party. Well done.

  22. People taking the initiative and acting alone is what made us a great nation. And if you’re captured, there’s nothing to reveal. — George Washington

  23. Over the last 3 years, you’ve made your case to the American people, and they’re declining what you’re offering. They don’t want what you’re selling. They’re not all convinced that economic collapse is imminent.

    You know, even a stopped steve is right at least 2 times a day. I hate to admit this, but I think steve is partially right here. History has shown that people continually repeat history because they don’t learn it. Until the economy DOES collapse, they’ll ignore it. Where steve loses me is here:

    You wrapped your message in a bunch of birtherism kenya socialist benghazi instead of a clear message of returning power and revenue to the states. You blew it, and now you’re bitter about it. When John Fucking Boehner isn’t afraid of you any more, you’ve lost.

    Please, steve. Because the media, and lefties like yourself, focus on things you know that voters will react negatively to, doesn’t mean that people haven’t been making a clear case of returning power and revenue to the states. And don’t for a minute tell me that you’d be for that either – guys like you worship the government, and anything that weakens it is anathema.

    That said – people need to learn the hard way. There will always be smarter people, like the host and commenters here, but they will always be in the minority. The human race is too flawed to learn from its mistakes. A thousand years from now this will all happen again.

  24. Yes, low information voters are not well informed and don’t base their votes on actual, you know, things. And yes, they outnumber us vastly.

  25. steve,

    about the tea party – they’re right on the issues. That’s why they don’t have high poll numbers. Because most people are corrupt, and wrong, in their views; they’re the exception.

    No, that view won’t sell, I know. But it doesn’t change the facts.

  26. “‘How is it that you’re so quick to pull up Obama’s poll numbers, but you apparently aren’t aware that the Tea Party poll numbers are far worse?”

    How is it that you’re apparently unaware that the “unpopular” Ted Cruz is tied with Hillary Clinton on a mock presidential ballot in the important swing state of Colorado?

  27. Tea Party could really get rolling, once they figure out how to bribe the electorate.

    THEN they could really effect some change!

  28. Speaking of Kenya, I never did hear DV’s explanation of how that datum was published long before Der Vahn ever showed his face on the national stage, much less thought to run for POTUS. It seems like such an odd thing for a factual newspaper article to start out with, considering the natural default would have been “Hawaiian-born”, and no one would have blinked twice.

    Who gave them that information, DV?

    Take your time.

    And Benghazi? Death of the personal representative of the President, and three guards while the POTUS played cards with his personal servant, before jetting off for (yet) another fundraiser? No big deal, since it was all about a YouTube video that no one had ever seen. Right, DV? Isn’t that the official story?

    Just like Watergate was a petty B&E…

  29. That’s what makes this approach so frustrating, I Callahan. The GOP are fighting the Tea Party in a burn-your-bridges “confuse them and call them horrible” approach, as if there won’t ever be a true crisis ever again and they can keep fake fighting Democrats fo’ ev’a.

    Playing all these cards now to get rich/keep the status quo going because you just “know” that we’ll never have to deal with real problems again cause debt is just a number or whatever the Washington, Scotch-soaked thought process currently is, really makes this frustrating/bad politics.

  30. As far as Kenya goes, I’d like an explanation as to why Obama represented himself as having been born there.

    It’s because he’s a pathological liar, isn’t it Slappy?

  31. You know, of course, Steve, that there is no party called the TEA Party, right?

  32. I will state for the record that I am willing to stipulate that Barcky was born in Hawaii. However, he was not raised either in America, or as an American. There are no shared experiences that boys growing up in the 60s and 70s would have with our current President.

    While American kids are learning the rules of kickball, Barry was learning how to pray in the Indonesian madrassas (he describes the call to prayer the “most beautiful sound in the world”). While American kids were learning how to cook hotdogs and marshmallows on unbent wire hangers over a bonfire, Barry was learning what dog tasted like. While American kids were building soapbox racers, Barry was being taught how awful the US was.

    He might be a citizen, but he is not an American.

  33. Generally, Americans like America. Which would preclude a desire to fundamentally transform it.

  34. Which would preclude a desire to fundamentally transform it.

    Which is why “least” instead of “worst” Presidential: the ClownDisaster falls outside the category properly understood altogether.

  35. ***Dystel did not respond to numerous requests for comment, via email and telephone.

    Her assistant told Breitbart News that Dystel “does not answer questions about Obama because she prefers non-cement overshoes.”***

    Partially dramatized.

  36. How is it you haven’t noticed, hellomynameis that the tea party is consistently demonized and vilified by the Lickspittle Media? Do you suppose that could have something to do with those poll numbers. And although the Golfer-In-Chief is protected and portrayed in glowing terms by the selfsame Lickspittle Media, his numbers are nevertheless in a tailspin? #analysisfail

    Oh, yeah, that’s right. There is no such thing as bias amongst the Lickspittle Media. I mean, the Lickspittle Media says they are unbiased, and if you can’t believe them, who can you believe? (Besides the little man who lives in my Christmas cactus, that is. I know he always tells me the truth.)

  37. hellomynameisLegion — your recurring use of the Tea Party as Emmanual Goldstein is duly noted. Congratulations, your propaganda is effective. No doubt your medal is in the mail.

  38. I wonder why the wholly-owned propaganda arm of the Democrat Party (aka the MSM) wouldn’t point out how badly their bosses are doing? – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comments

    I think many of us liberals expect that Obama’s popularity rating at the end of his term is going to be a bit higher than it is now.

    Now (pay attention), which is more relevant: The POTUS or a loose collection of individuals with no de facto chain of command when poll numbers are to be counted?
    Why, you yourself have just conceded that the POTUS is no more important than the TEA Party. Well done.
    - See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comments

    I thought you were hoping you/they could change the course of America. Apparently you don’t think they’re very important either. Well done.

    And don’t for a minute tell me that you’d be for that either – guys like you worship the government, and anything that weakens it is anathema. – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comments

    I worship my state government a lot more than the federal one.

    How is it that you’re apparently unaware that the “unpopular” Ted Cruz is tied with Hillary Clinton on a mock presidential ballot in the important swing state of Colorado? – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comments

    I’m glad you have one measly data point to dry hump all night long. Hillary was going to be President in 2008 too, according to all the 3 year out polls.

    And Benghazi? Death of the personal representative of the President, and three guards while the POTUS played cards with his personal servant, before jetting off for (yet) another fundraiser? No big deal, since it was all about a YouTube video that no one had ever seen. Right, DV? Isn’t that the official story? – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comments

    You must be really pissed about 4000 dead military and $1 trillion spent in Iraq to get WMDs that weren’t there. You interested in getting to the bottom of that mess since it was 1*10^3 worse? Didn’t think so. You’re very inconsistent in your outrage. That’s why it lacks credibility.

    Generally, Americans like America. Which would preclude a desire to fundamentally transform it. – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comments

    I know. You guys hate America. By that I mean the actual America that sits before you today. And you want to fundamentally transform it back to some idealized 1910 version of America.

  39. I think everyone (who voted for him) was expecting David Palmer.

  40. How is it you haven’t noticed, hellomynameis that the tea party is consistently demonized and vilified by the Lickspittle Media? Do you suppose that could have something to do with those poll numbers. And although the Golfer-In-Chief is protected and portrayed in glowing terms by the selfsame Lickspittle Media, his numbers are nevertheless in a tailspin? – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comment-1042136

    I know, your guys shutting down the federal government and wanting to blow $600bn out of the economy in an instant by never raising the debt ceiling, and cratering the world economy, and wanting to do away with the EPA and FDA should have been covered with more balance.

    And, you apparently didn’t notice how gleeful reporters were to demonstrate that Healthcare.gov wasn’t working. #analysisfail

  41. I think many of us liberals expect that Obama’s popularity rating at the end of his term is going to be a bit higher than it is now.

    Based on the popularity of his signature legislation? Or all of the scandals that have — and continue to — happen?

    You must be really pissed about 4000 dead military and $1 trillion spent in Iraq to get WMDs that weren’t there

    Except that they were, amusingly enough. You clearly don’t know what qualifies as WMD. By the way, where did Syria get all those chemical weapons that Obama ignored?

    You guys hate America. By that I mean the actual America that sits before you today

    Yes, we hate the soft tyranny that Obama has turned what was once a great country into. Of course, we want to return it to what it was — a constitutional republic where laws actually meant something. Nice of you to admit that the country founded is not the country it has become.

    Yeah, the Constitution is more than 100 years old, so we can just ignore it, right, DV?

    Didn’t think so. You’re very inconsistent in your outrage. That’s why it lacks credibility.

    Are you aware that 3/4 of the military deaths in Afghanistan have occurred on Obama’s watch? Funny how those numbers that we heard every day during Bush’s seven plus years in Afghanistan have disappeared, isn’t it? Talk about selective outrage…

    I know, your guys shutting down the federal government and wanting to blow $600bn out of the economy in an instant by never raising the debt ceiling,

    $600 billion? That’s a measley two months of spending by the Federal Government – which amount includes the $200 billion that must be borrowed to make up the deficit Obama is creating. I ask again, why do you hate balanced budgets?

    And, you apparently didn’t notice how gleeful reporters were to demonstrate that Healthcare.gov wasn’t working.

    When they could no longer avoid the reality that everyone could see for themselves, you mean. When everything was still a few days in the future (a lifetime in terms of DC spin cycle), they were still denying that anything would be wrong. Sebelius set out to show everyone that it was working, and the site went down. They couldn’t even keep the site up long enough for a press event.

    By the way, how about all those rewriting of law by EO? Gonna be lots of fun when it gets shoved down your throat, isn’t it? And you won’t have a thing to say about it, right?

  42. I also note for the record that Dog Vomit has ignored the uncomfortable questions about how much of a liar Obama was, even as a young politician no one had ever heard of except for his publisher…

  43. Playing all these cards now to get rich/keep the status quo going because you just “know” that we’ll never have to deal with real problems again cause debt is just a number or whatever the Washington, Scotch-soaked thought process currently is, really makes this frustrating/bad politics.

    Sure it’s bad for the country, but not for them. Let me put my congress-critter hat on for a minute: “I worked damn hard to get to this point and to get myself this nice sinecure, so no bunch of malcontents, our side or not, are going to come in and change the rules on me!”

    This is typical of politicians in general. Everywhere there have been politicians, this type of thinking has existed. It’s never been any different.

    My method of coping (and that’s all it really is), is this: this is human nature; it generally fucks up anything of good it ever does (on a net basis), and there ain’t a damn thing we can do about it. I count my blessings that I got to live in this country during a time where I WAS free. Most humans in history have never lived during a time like that, and never will. The ones I most feel sorry for are people that can see what is happening, who have kids, because it’s those kids that will feel the effects of the crash. Lucky for me, I have no kids.

  44. I know. You guys hate America. By that I mean the actual America that sits before you today.

    The one in which half of all Americans are riding in the Federal handout wagon that my fellow productive Americans and I are pulling? The one with the 17 trillion and climbing of debt to pay for half of Americans being on the dole?

    Yes, that America is an abomination. I hate it and I hate you. I hope you get Obamacare and die, as you deserve.

    When you fuckwits plow the clown car into which you’ve transformed America into the wall, some of us will know how to build things out of the pieces of wreckage. You’ll be useless, so you might as well just get the hell out of the way know.

  45. If you’ve put your faith in a government that can’t ever stop lying to you, you done fucked up.

  46. You’re exactly right, especially as to what are politicians are thinking.

    I don’t know what’s worse. That these guys cling to “I worked hard to get where I am! What do you mean I’ve been coasting for twenty years? Don’t you know how many speeches I still give every day!” mindsets, or that we let them.

    Nah, us. I couldn’t even let that fly as rhetorical for a mili-second.

  47. I know

    You don’t know shit about any of us (who, by the way, find a great deal to disagree over. Not that you’re paying attention), and demonstrate that regularly.

    your guys shutting down the federal government and wanting to blow $600bn out of the economy in an instant by never raising the debt ceiling

    There were alternatives, recall. Shame on us/you for not compromising!

    The federal government, note, remained operational. Someone has been reading too many of their favorite talking points. Meanwhile, the Senate last passed a budget when?

    More relevant, applicable points, please.

  48. I think many of us liberals expect that Obama’s popularity rating at the end of his term is going to be a bit higher than it is now.

    How have those expectations fared to date? How is that expectation of a more transparent administration doing? How about the expectation of closing Guantanamo, halting surveillance of American citizens, and closing down military operations in Afghanistan?

    And that expectation of a government run by professionals, how is that doing? I am guessing things will be looking a lot better now that those corrupt Republicans have been removed from power, eh?

  49. AN END TO EXECUTIONS PERFORMED BY THE CIA VIA DRONES!

  50. Get your asses in line, Hobbits! And prepare to be governed. Good and hard.

    Can’t we just cuddle for the next three years?

  51. Yes, we hate the soft tyranny that Obama has turned what was once a great country into. Of course, we want to return it to what it was — a constitutional republic where laws actually meant something. Nice of you to admit that the country founded is not the country it has become. – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comment-1042138

    Name one decent country that hasn’t changed significantly in the last 200 years.

    Except that they were, amusingly enough. You clearly don’t know what qualifies as WMD. By the way, where did Syria get all those chemical weapons that Obama ignored? – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comment-1042138

    I don’t even know why you bring this up. (1) Syria was quite capable of developing its own chemical weapons (2) it’s far from proven that it got more from Iraq, and (3) if they did, that’s the result of a war you supported. So how many ways can you fuck up?

    Yes, we hate the soft tyranny that Obama has turned what was once a great country into. – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comment-1042138

    I agree. You only love an idealized version of America that never existed in your lifetime. Well, really, that never existed at all.

    Are you aware that 3/4 of the military deaths in Afghanistan have occurred on Obama’s watch? Funny how those numbers that we heard every day during Bush’s seven plus years in Afghanistan have disappeared, isn’t it? Talk about selective outrage… – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comment-1042138

    Yep, and we libs are mighty pissed about it. Obama doth disappoint on this issue. I’m surprised you support a hasty retreat though.

    $600 billion? That’s a measley two months of spending by the Federal Government – which amount includes the $200 billion that must be borrowed to make up the deficit Obama is creating. I ask again, why do you hate balanced budgets? – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comment-1042138

    Why do you keep asking questions that have been answered at length? Can you just not remember the answer? Are you OK?

    By the way, how about all those rewriting of law by EO? Gonna be lots of fun when it gets shoved down your throat, isn’t it? And you won’t have a thing to say about it, right? – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comment-1042138

    Since it’s wrong, you’ll do it 2x when you get a chance and rejoice about it? That what you’re saying? You only want the constitution followed when a Dem is in office?

  52. Seriously, everyone, do not engage the typing telephone pole. You only encourage it.

    Do the names actus, monkyboy, timb, and PIATOR not ring any bells? (Although actus’ Balloon Fence and ripping PIATOR’s name were 2 of this sites most hilarious moments.)

  53. I know, your guys shutting down the federal government and wanting to blow $600bn out of the economy in an instant by never raising the debt ceiling, and cratering the world economy, and wanting to do away with the EPA and FDA should have been covered with more balance.

    How many straw men can you stuff into one sentence? Your guys shut down the government, not anybody or anything in the Tea Party. Stopping FedGov from printing funny money doesn’t take a dime out of the economy, and won’t cause the world economy to crater.

    And, you apparently didn’t notice how gleeful reporters were to demonstrate that Healthcare.gov wasn’t working. #analysisfail

    You’re right. I didn’t notice any gleeful reporting. Maybe I missed it, but they seem far more inclined to ignore the ongoing clusterfarg that the Obamacare rollout has been, such as the gaping security holes, the functional-only-if-you-tilt-your-head-and-squint website, the phony enrollment numbers reported by the Administration, the missed “deadlines” for fixing things, the fact that the vast majority of “enrollees” either are now on Medicaid, or haven’t paid yet, and so really aren’t enrolled in anything, etc., ad nauseam. #rejoinderfail

    I grow weary of your bleating. You can’t just keep yelling “Squirrel!” and then act all surprised that we don’t bow down to your superior intellect.

  54. Eh, I don’t know John. The paradigm has shifted against both sides and their obvious incompetence, so it’s kind of fascinating from a “The Neverending Story” perspective.

  55. “It seems like such an odd thing for a factual newspaper article to start out with, considering the natural default would have been “Hawaiian-born”, and no one would have blinked twice.”

    I’m pretty sure the Tea Party wasn’t responsible for this, either:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/booklet.asp

    Where do you suppose that information came from, Slaphead?

  56. By the way, how about all those rewriting of law by EO? Gonna be lots of fun when it gets shoved down your throat, isn’t it? And you won’t have a thing to say about it, right? – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comment-1042138

    Since it’s wrong, you’ll do it 2x when you get a chance and rejoice about it? That what you’re saying? You only want the constitution followed when a Dem is in office?

    Thus because he’s an orphan, the parricide pleads for the mercy of the court.

  57. This iteration of slipperyslope/steve/whomever is getting repetitive, pedantic, boring, etc.
    Jeff, if you’re taking a poll, I’m on the side of flushing this one. Then we can have a bet on identifying him/it upon the next appearance.
    Although that does leave dalek as the only remaining foil. Feets doesn’t count. At least he has glimmers of thoughts.

  58. Name one decent country that hasn’t changed significantly in the last 200 years.

    Name one country where the nation’s chief executive has utterly shredded the very establishing document he swore to uphold and defend.

    Time’s up!

    I don’t even know why you bring this up. (1) Syria was quite capable of developing its own chemical weapons (2) it’s far from proven that it got more from Iraq, and (3) if they did, that’s the result of a war you supported. So how many ways can you fuck up?

    “Quite capable” does not explain the repeatedly reported convoy of trucks from Iraq to Syria in the weeks leading up to the war. The WMD were in Iraq before (according to the UN) and weren’t there (except in tactical quantities) afterwards. There was no record of them being destroyed, and given that both Syria and Iraq were being run by dictators belonging to the Ba’ath party, it’s not at all surprising that the exact type of weapon Iraq used against its own citizens is exactly the type of WMD Syria used against ITS own citizens. Gosh, nothing like coincidence, is there?

    Your (3) is CYA bullshit, given that you seem to be admitting they did exist, and they would have existed whether or not I supported the war. Reality exists no matter how hard you cross your fingers.

    And there is also the point that the war was actually started by Iraq, not the US, but your allergy to reality is becoming amusing.

    Why do you keep asking questions that have been answered at length?

    Oh, right, your answer was “Yawn”. Care to expound a bit, or shall we just get back to pitying your parents?

    Since it’s wrong, you’ll do it 2x when you get a chance and rejoice about it?

    Oh, absolutely. You’ll get it good and hard, and I will laugh uproariously. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind. And you said the Constitution doesn’t matter, because the country has changed in the last 200 years. You do remember saying that, don’t you? Are you alright?

  59. JohnInFirestone says December 17, 2013 at 2:49 pm
    Seriously, everyone, do not engage the typing telephone pole. You only encourage it.
    - See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comments

    Oh come on. He thinks he’s intelligent. He thinks he’s making points. It’s funny.

  60. “Over the last 3 years, you’ve made your case to the American people, and they’re declining what you’re offering ”

    They don’t want what you’re selling anymore either idiot. Because now they know it sucks and you threats and promises are both worthless.

  61. “How is it that you’re so quick to pull up Obama’s poll numbers, but you apparently aren’t aware that the Tea Party poll numbers are far worse? ”

    Shitpile is shitpile steve. You’re in the shitpile now and sinking. Face it. You fucked up. You’re losing influence. People don’t like you or your dumb ideas and schemes anymore. You’re lies are obvious. So welcome to the shitpile.

  62. “I think many of us liberals expect that Obama’s popularity rating at the end of his term is going to be a bit higher than it is now.”

    You didn’t think he’d ever be where he is now. Believing things is kind of worthless when reality arrives. You thought Obamacare would make you heroes. You think a lot of dumb shit.

  63. The point of bringing up Der Whan’s poll numbers in juxtaposition with the TEA Party’s is that the POTUS has enjoyed a full body flak jacket of fawning media coverage for 5 years. While the TEA Party has been vilified endlessly for nearly as long and quite vociferously. Yet, here they both are with the same-ish poll numbers.

    The further point is that you steve, are dumber than a sack of hammers.

  64. I vote to flush the silly turd. ‘Tis the season;

  65. You’re not a liberal, Slappy. There’s nothing liberal about you. You’re a progressive. A nasty, vile, repulsive, liberty despising progressive. Please die quickly.

  66. Polls, you say? Here’s one: Americans Cite Gov’t, Economy, Healthcare as Top Problems

    Yes, Virginia, the government is the problem.

  67. Hellomynameissteve, over the last 3 years, you’ve had your way with the American people, and they’re declining what you’re offering. They don’t want what you’re selling. They’re not all convinced that federally regulated health insurance is the wave of the future. You wrapped your message in a bunch of hate for producers and job creators instead of a workable program for solving any actual problems.

    You blew it, and now you’re bitter about it. When half your own party’s Senators don’t support you any more, you’ve lost.

  68. Independents now hate your guts, too steve.

  69. “(Although actus’ Balloon Fence and ripping PIATOR’s name were 2 of this sites most hilarious moments.)”

    Actually it was monkyboy that came up with the balloon fence and mile high dirt berm. For to keep the missiles out of Israel. Also author of the container ship Chinese invasion scenario. That was back in the day when Proggs were livid at the crazy deficit Bush was running up .

    Ahhh, good times…

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  71. “I think many of us liberals expect that Obama’s popularity rating at the end of his term is going to be a bit higher than it is now.” – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52230#comments

    Care to put some green where your mouth is?

  72. Is that how DV makes his money, appearing in 404Care ads?

  73. hellomynameissteve says December 17, 2013 at 10:35 am Riddle me this.

    *snipped after first lie*

  74. One thing that amused me re: steve’s latest script.

    He blathers about the “Tea Party” polling being so low as some sort of counterpoint to Obama’s polling being bad. Except I recall some interesting differences.

    The Tea Party has been demonized, denigrated and dehumanized ever since it popped up and for some reason Steve thinks it’s significant that it doesn’t have good polling.

    Obama’s been supported by the MSM singing his praises and so on and despite that his polling is low.

    Hm… Wonder what would happen to the Tea Party’s polling if, at a minimum, the MSM stopped lying about them and simply gave basic info on their views?

    Not that I expect Steve to think about that or anything. Drones only do what they’re programmed to do.

  75. *sigh*

    Trespassers beat me to it. I need to scroll down before adding more “insightful” comments I guess. :-o

  76. jewish dude for the fall guy. go figure.

  77. yo ezra klein dumme Kopf

  78. I’m put in mind of a somewhat Jewier Mark Mothersbaugh, in the Peek-a-boo glasses.

  79. I thought not.

  80. Patrick.
    You know where they put the least productive “software engineers”? In marketing.
    They run interference between the tech writers and the software engineers that are actually productive.
    Steve pulls a paycheck for helping the scribblers turn tech-speak into people-speak.
    He has no ideas of his own. So far all he has done is to repeat the narrative. And not very well at that.
    Before the end of his administration Obama’s approval ratings will get much lower. Voters will forgive a lot, but they won’t forgive continually being lied to.

  81. WRT Obamacare Douchebag: I think we’ve finally found someone whose ass David Sirota and Ezra Klein can actually kick.

  82. “Don’t say you’re an orphan ’cause we know that game”….”Wait, wait…..When you say ‘Often’ do you mean a person without a family or frequently?” (Pirates of Penzance.)

    - Maybe they were meeting secretly so Mooch wouldn’t catch on.

    - In other news the worlds longest running slow motion train wreck continues: Carney is now waffling on the Jan 1 due date for OCare signup numbers. Just like we knew he would.

  83. “The Tea Party is a group of nasty, white, wealthy tea baggers who’ve never been to New York, don’t like Mexicans, resent having a black man in the White House, think Christianity should be the state religion, want gays to be lobotomized and kept in asylums, and love it when poor people groan miserably. What is your opinion of the Tea Party? … Yes… Thank you. Have a nice day…. Excuse me sir, may I ask you a brief question for an opinion poll?…Thank you. The Tea Party is a group of nasty, white ….” etc.

  84. “Did someone leave a douche under the Christmas tree?”

    But they ‘organize’ so well!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bbxejx9CUAA5gpq.png:large

  85. Hey, c’mon now… at least they’re holding the line on the ballooning costs of military pensions.

    Motherfuckers.

  86. “The Tea Party is a group of nasty, white, wealthy greedy money-grubbing tea baggers who’ve never been to New York, don’t like Mexicans, resent having a black man in the White House, think Christianity should be the state religion, want gays to be lobotomized and kept in asylums, and love it when poor people groan miserably. What is your opinion of the Tea Party? … Yes… Thank you. Have a nice day…. Excuse me sir, may I ask you a brief question for an opinion poll?…Thank you. The Tea Party is a group of nasty, white ….” etc.

    If tea-partiers were really wealthy, they could afford to be as selfless, high-minded, and ostentatiously pietous as steve –who’d be the first tell you that he earns more than a selfish bastard like you.

  87. It’s also been pointed out elsewhere (Instapundit I think) that a two-year deal means spending votes won’t be a campaign issue next fall.

  88. *buh-buh-burble*

  89. “The Tea Party is a group of nasty, white, wealthy greedy money-grubbing tea baggers who’ve never been to New York, don’t like Mexicans, resent having a black man in the White House, think Christianity should be the state religion, want gays to be lobotomized and kept in asylums, and love it when poor people groan miserably.

    Worse yet.

    Podesta, whose official mandate includes enforcement of numerous executive orders on emissions and the environment, suggested as much when he spoke with me earlier this fall about Obama’s team. “They need to focus on executive action given that they are facing a second term against a cult worthy of Jonestown in charge of one of the houses of Congress,” he told me.

  90. No, Jonestown was a Democrat cult. So unless he’s talking about the Obamabots in the Senate who are racing to pull the fire alarms, I think Podesta has miscalculated.

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  92. *** If the president can’t move past the Obamacare debacle to reset the agenda through executive action and targeted legislative campaigns on climate change, immigration and the minimum wage, he might never be able to regain his footing. The West Wing also hopes Podesta can help restore Obama’s slipping reputation as a president who can be trusted to run his own government competently. ***

    Seems to me that the mere premise “move past the ObamaCare debacle”, as if what were significant about ClownDisasterCare is an issue of “competence”, rather than an issue of a permanently fundamental disordering of the relationship of the citizen to his government — as the question was posed by Justice Anthony Kennedy — then the key to understanding the whole matter has already been lost, i.e., “move[d] past”.

    Hide the ball, Politico! Most excellent maneuver: yeah, that’ll work.

  93. When has Obama ever demonstrated he can do anything (other than self-promote) competently?

  94. Oh heck Ernst, he’s splendidly competent at play-acting the tyrant, and thoroughly competent at willfully misunderstanding the meaning of the office he holds. Could a more clueless executive be wished for by a nation of slaves?

  95. What exactly is Podesta’s title? What authority does he have to make preposterous claims such as these, other than the usual hubris, I mean?

    Hiring John Podesta is a sure sign that they’ve hit the wall and are in full-on damage control. Lots of luck with that. The last president he advised was impeached.

  96. “Executive action” has now moved past the old fashioned “executive orders” and is now into the realm of “secret law.”

  97. There is a name for this form of governance and calling it “corporatist” is calling the elephant in the room a mouse because they are both grey colored.

  98. ***The West Wing also hopes Podesta can help restore Obama’s slipping reputation as a [P]resident…***

    Well, beat me like a red-headed goldfish and call me Chevy Ford.

  99. Get lost goldfish. You are nonsensical.

  100. Hey, no more elections for him so why worry about a “slipping reputation?” It’s just “slipping” from the fictional narrative into the non-fiction shelves.

    Eventually he’s just “gotta be me.”

  101. I like the goldfish. He brings the sarc by the ton.

  102. He brings the sarc by the ton.

    Or in multi-tonnage by the train-load.

  103. I take Podesta’s statement a little more somberly – it’s a progression along the continuum from grassroots, to racists, to terrorists, to death cult. And the endpoint of this demonization is?

  104. And the endpoint of this demonization is?

    This is the endpoint and this [real world example] is how they get there with ease.

  105. I heart Okla*burble*!

  106. “This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” — Adolph Hitler [1935], commenting on the Weapons Act of Nazi Germany

  107. OK is okay, as they say.

    I apologize, fish. It’s been a tough week.

  108. “They have gun control in Cuba. They have universal health care in Cuba. So why do they want to come here?” — Paul Harvey (8/31/94)

  109. On Saturday I went to a little Christmas party where almost everyone was a college educated & liberal. No one looked like pajama boy and no one talked about signing up for health insurance.

    Does the Obama gang really know much about who they are working for?

  110. Does the Obama gang really know much about who they are working for?

    Heh. You mean know about themselves (who they are working for), bgbear? Yeah, outside naming their immediate desires, probably not so much.

  111. “themselves” yeah, good one.

  112. I heard trial lawyers dissing Der Wahn yesterday.

    Something’s happing here . . .

  113. “Does the Obama gang really know much about who they are working for?”

    The Chicago Outfit, race hustlers, and a collection of aging communists and fascists?

    Yeah, I’d say they have a pretty good idea who they actually work for. The useful idiots only get lip service as long as they’re useful.

  114. Yeah, I’d say they have a pretty good idea who they actually work for.

    They know they’re working for Evil!PeterPan?

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