December 12, 2013

“House passes bipartisan Murray-Ryan budget bill”

Which is one of the reasons I don’t have much to say anymore. ObamaCare? Law of the land, can’t be repealed, elections have consequences. Sequester? Law of the land, until it’s not the law of the land — or until the voracious DC pigs need their fix at the trough, at which point that law is essentially gutted in exchange for a promise of savings from future Congresses (that doesn’t even take into account accrued interest).

The GOP doesn’t represent us, and it’s establishment leaders are now openly looking to punish conservatives. The Democrats are essentially a socialist party, and as such they are ideologically driven and incapable of real compromise.

So. Now what?

Posted by Jeff G. @ 5:01pm
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Comments (95)

  1. You did know that it would have to get worse before it started to get better, didn’t you?

  2. batten down the hatches

  3. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

  4. You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. — Charles A. Beard

  5. Oh, and when Ted Sandyman takes a break from sheep porn to pop in and gloat about how awesome slavery is going to be, ban his ass.

    It’s time for a new iteration anyways.

  6. Beard would have known. He did as much as any other Progressive to discredit both the Founding and the Constitution .

  7. Wax on. Wax off.

  8. glenn beck is on mark levin @ 7:30 est

  9. Paul Ryan does not add value

  10. Roll Call vote available?

  11. 1 million long term unemployed will now get their unemployment insurance taken away.

    You can always fap to that?

  12. >1 million long term unemployed will now get their unemployment insurance taken away. <

    after 99 weeks get a job loser

  13. So, now what?

    Start at the bottom. In our own houses, with our own families and neighbors and churches. The top is rotten; it cannot hold. We’re at least two generations behind, but we have to start somewhere. Ideas don’t die. The urge for freedom doesn’t die. It’s hibernating now, perhaps, but we do what we can to preserve it for the future.

  14. 1 million long term unemployed will now get their unemployment insurance taken away.

    100 million long term insured will now get their health insurance taken away.

    FORWARD!

  15. 21.2 million American veterans will receive a 1% cost of living raise.

    Bitchin’ eh, dalek?

  16. cry me a river leigh. it’s a shit deal that forces people out into the cold in the name of ‘compromise.’ not to mention all federal employees are getting a 3 year pay freeze and will have to contribute more to their pensions. so sure, veterans are getting fucked, but surprise! they’re part of the same evil government you’re trying to cut down at the knees. if you take the ax to park rangers, and EPA employees you take the ax to the military – they can’t be exempt, they aren’t golden. they’re just fed employees. like mailmen with anger issues.

  17. At some point, 7.62 @ 700 meters will be the new ballot. Not that I’d ever encourage it, but at some point the colonists went muskets at 100 yards. But their overseers were closer.

  18. >Paul Ryan does not add value<

    he likes mommies wearing tennis shoes

  19. >not to mention all federal employees are getting a 3 year pay freeze and will have to contribute more to their pensions<

    effin' cry me a river dickkhunter

  20. >if you take the ax to park rangers, and EPA employees you take the ax to the military – they can’t be exempt, they aren’t golden. they’re just fed employees. like mailmen with anger issues. <

    prune the whole fed gov't dickkhunter. slash and burn dc

  21. cool NR lets dissemble the military together. pentagon included.

  22. “Which is one of the reasons I don’t have much to say anymore”

    I’d say it calls for the opposite course of action Mister!

    “So. Now what?”

    Cruz missile launch, baby!

  23. cool NR lets dissemble the military together. pentagon included.

    But the EPA? CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED!

    Reality must really suck for you, Khunt…

  24. Until they get to a crisis they can’t hem and haw away from, they will consider this the new normal, and it’ll be difficult to get away from that. And Republicans have been the businessmen that set the numbers to the course of the Left for at least thirty years, that’s a generation.

    I say be the voice of true opposition, not this nonsense. Because people will need to know what a true opposite voice sounds like when this finally falls.

  25. To use Dalek as an example, he thinks his talking points of cheap state-run charity make an ounce of sense.

    Paul Ryan thinks we should pay more for the TSA, cause they’re soooo amazing. As long as no one in the government ever loses a job, we will be robbed of freedoms.

    And even though there’s gun violence at the borders, Bengazi, and an increasingly fascist police, it’s still easy for the media to refuse to connect those dots.

    But I’m a bit all over the place with my thought on this, so I’ll leave off there.

  26. “cool NR lets dissemble the military together. pentagon included.”

    Okay. So, military spending makes up about 20% of all government spending. I’m fine with cutting a buck from the military, as long as we cut four bucks from your Useful Welfare Idiots.

  27. >cool NR lets dissemble the military together.<

    that be constitutional

    To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

    To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

    To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

    To provide and maintain a Navy;

    To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

    epa,fda, eeoc hhs, et al not so much

  28. 20% on the military

    2% educatoin
    2% science and medical research
    3% transportation and infrastructure

    that’s one hell of a point you’re making. but no please all the funds for drones and torture islands

  29. @page 158 potpl

    In this kind of idealization, real socialism employs the familiar
    tried and true method of socialist realism, according to which only
    the typical is real, and only what corresponds to the given ideal is
    typical, that is, whatever has the potential to grow towards the ideal.
    There is, for example, the ideal of socialist man. In our harsh reality,
    anyone who does not correspond to that ideal is atypical. Anyone
    who is atypical, and yet exists, is an ‘evil’ reality and has no place in
    real socialism. Anyone who is not a socialist man, therefore, can
    only be a residuum of the past, an agent of imperialism, a dissident.
    In any case, he or she is a foreign element. Because this foreign
    element is by definition outside real socialism, however, there are
    only proper socialist people in real socialism. What does it matter
    that we have to invent them and that the overwhelming majority of
    the nation is still foreign to real socialism? The essential thing is that
    the socialist man is typical of real socialism. Another of our ideals is
    that of free and creative work as one of the vital needs of socialist
    man. What does it matter that we guarantee this free work by
    making work compulsory, that its creative aspect, as far as most
    of the nation is concerned, is manifested in seeking ways to shirk
    it, that this foremost vital need is not pleasurable, but a necessary
    evil to earn a livelihood? The only typical and real work is socialist
    work.
    And so a real socialist man necessarily becomes a schizophrenic.
    As a practical politician he fights against the total pervasiveness of
    indifference, bribery, passivity, absenteeism, theft on the job and
    lack of principles, but as an ideologist he oozes enthusiasm over the
    typical aspects of socialist work, socialist commitment, socialist
    unselfishness and socialist integrity. As an ideologist, he is a socialist
    man, but as a practical politician he is given special treatment in the
    government hospital, and he does his shopping in special shops,
    lives in a special residential district and has his children chauffeured
    to school in official limousines.
    As an ideologist he has taken over and almost perfected an
    Orwellian language designed to cloud over the negative reality of
    real socialism and make it positive.

  30. back of the envelope

    military spending should be 45% of all spending and be about a third what it is now I think

    slopping the tiresome pentagon piggies is not the future

  31. >2% educatoin<

    we should spend 0% at the fed gov't level. you prove my point

  32. 2% educatoin
    2% science and medical research

    Which Articles do those things appear in? I can’t find it in the Constitution, and amazingly enough, I can’t find the words “solve” or “problems”, either.

  33. I looked for the part of the constitution that said the government is required to educate everyone, pay for medical research, and pay for infrastructure, but I am at a loss to find it.

    Defense, though? Right in there.

    You are really stupid, aren’t you?

  34. military spending should be cut a whole bunch. i don’t want dickkhunter to be involved.

  35. the “pentagon” is a fdr evil symbol

  36. Fire some desk jockeys and build some new ships and aircraft. And get those men in the field some decent gear, boots and food.

    Since our military is the only system actually mentioned in the founding document, they shouldn’t be being treated like a redheaded step-child.

  37. >back of the envelope<

    what else are you hiding there? maybe food tips?

  38. sell the pentagon disburse the military decentralize

  39. not tonight i have to go make sleeps

  40. cranky, it does mention postal roads, but that does not necessarily include bridges or freeways

  41. denying food tips is a human rights abuse. you’re just not positive.

  42. Bill says take 4 bucks away from useful welfare idiots for every buck taken out of the Pentagon, and Wormtongue starts screeching about education, research and infrastructure and you didn’t build that.

    Good doggy.

  43. My Congress Critter voted to pass the bill, so far as I’m concerned, she’s Fred Toomby*

    persona non grata.

    *I’d have written something else, but I wouldn’t to give some NSA snitch a case of the vapors, you know?

  44. All those roads are just to deliver mail? Wow.
    /sarcasm

    Eh, I hate being wrong.

  45. And to deliver that mail they obviously need a clean environment: EPA.

    How can they deliver mail if you don’t know how to write? Public Education.

    How can they deliver mail if they don’t know where you are at all times? NSA

    How can they deliver mail if you try to deliver it yourself by smuggling it up your ass? TSA

    See? It’s all in there!

  46. Nice job, William.

  47. 1 million long term unemployed will now get their unemployment insurance taken away.

    Stop using terms you don’t understand, like “insurance.”

  48. “that’s one hell of a point you’re making. but no please all the funds for drones and torture islands”

    Oh, but I thought Dear Leader Barack Hussein Obama was going to fix all that?

    Right after he orders back the tide stops the oceans from rising, maybe.

  49. “1 million long term unemployed will now get their unemployment insurance taken away.”

    Why hasn’t Dear Leader Barack Hussein Obama fixed that unemployment problem?

    Didn’t he “save or create” a whole bunch of jobs? Where are they?

  50. cool NR lets dissemble the military together. pentagon included.

    You can’t disassemble the Pentagon without releasing Yog-Sothoth from his prison, to wreak his terrible vengeance upon the earth. Der! Didn’t Robert Anton Wilson teach you anything?

  51. Oh, but I thought Dear Leader Barack Hussein Obama was going to fix all that?

    He would have saved all the jobs, but Republicans are raaaaacist, you see. It isn’t His fault. Nothing is His fault. Because Raaaaacism.

  52. fdr files

    GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE, THE LOBOTOMY FILES: “The U.S. government lobotomized roughly 2,000 mentally ill veterans—and likely hundreds more—during and after World War II, according to a cache of forgotten memos, letters and government reports unearthed by The Wall Street Journal. Besieged by psychologically damaged troops returning from the battlefields of North Africa, Europe and the Pacific, the Veterans Administration performed the brain-altering operation on former servicemen it diagnosed as depressives, psychotics and schizophrenics, and occasionally on people identified as homosexuals.”

    That’s okay. Now it’ll just be people diagnosed as Republican.

    link

  53. >GOVERNMENT HEALTHCARE, THE LOBOTOMY FILES<

    ode to be a kennedy

  54. I can easily see how Rs can justify the vote. They didn’t want to let the Ds shut down the government and let the Rs take the blame. I’m pretty sure the polling was against the Republicans after the Cruz thing. While once was worthwhile, I don’t think there needs to be a repeat.
    Now Boehner’s attack on Tea Party is another thing entirely…

  55. >They didn’t want to let the Ds shut down the government and let the Rs take the blame. <

    who sent you? orangeman or axeldude?

  56. I can easily see how Rs can justify the vote.

    I can’t. Just as with the gun grabber’s claim to want a “compromise” can be answered with “Okay, I have the Constitution. What have you got to offer?”, the Dem’s demand for higher spending can be met with “We already have existing law* in the form of ‘Sequester cuts’, so what have you got to trump that?”

    * — and we all know how much Dems love the “law of the land”.

  57. >and we all know how much Dems love the “law of the land”. <

    hi doma or sodomy in Texas

  58. Do you suppose Rush Limbaugh is finally ready to throw in the towel on the Republican party?

  59. I can easily see how Rs can justify the vote. They didn’t want to let the Ds shut down the government and let the Rs take the blame. I’m pretty sure the polling was against the Republicans after the Cruz thing. While once was worthwhile, I don’t think there needs to be a repeat.

    I’ll venture to guess that more or less captures the thinking on the part of the Republican Leadership fairly accurately.

    Which of course is why the leadership needs to be replaced in toto. And why it will be, at least in part. But not before the Republicans go back into the minority.

    And not meaningfully (i.e. not more than rearranging the deck chairs) until all the present generation are passed away.

    Unfortunately for the GOP some of us aren’t content to wait that long.

  60. Do you suppose Rush Limbaugh is finally ready to throw in the towel on the Republican party? – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52192#comments

    Hahahahaha. You care what Rush thinks? Hahahahaha.

    Ernst, you’re still not as dumb as TinyBanger and Drum, but don’t give up!

  61. Why do you think people should take your advice, drone?

  62. Hey, Dog Vomit, I need you to clean up your mind, since I’m living there, rent-free. The amount of bullshit between your ears is staggering.

  63. “You care what Rush thinks?”

    15 million weekly listeners, Slaphead. How many do you have? I mean, other than the people here to whom you’re basically just a punching bag?

  64. What do you know, a twofer thread.

  65. - Steve-Oh…you’re still a fucking moron.

    - You can just consider that stamped on your forehead in a hellomynameisstevethemoron way.

    - ….and like all morons youhave an uncontrollable urge to keep proving it with stupid comment after stupid comment.

    - But carry on. Its always enjoyable pulling the wings out of fucktards like yourself.

  66. - With any luck at all you’ll end up the same way that Hawiian official did. Just another volunteer to the dear leaders Utopia scrap heap. Capish?

  67. As long as no one in the government ever loses a job, we will be robbed of freedoms.

    Inversely correlated, mostly at the federal level. The more federal employees and bureaucrats plug away in cubicles and lurk in the shadows, the fewer freedoms we will retain.

    It’s way past time for a new paradigm: Sunset every federal agency created since, oh, 1953. We could start with the Executive Cabinet agencies: Homeland Security, Veterans Affairs, Education, Energy, Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, Health and Human Services. Fold Veterans Affairs into Defense and make appropriate cuts to hardware expenditures to ensure all vets don’t lose a penny.

    The rest? Roll back whatever laws require their activities. Allow states to deal with citizen’s problems locally, with taxes no longer sent to the Feds.

    At some point, the Federal Government must be pruned. Either by methodical planning or, as with the Soviet model, by near-sudden ‘collapse’.

    But I fear our federal system won’t get snipped in as unremarkable a fashion as did the CCCP.

  68. I can easily see how Rs can justify the vote. They didn’t want to let the Ds shut down the government and let the Rs take the blame.

    In other words “We’re useless, feckless losers.”

  69. Hahahahaha. You care what Rush thinks? Hahahahaha.

    Hahahahaha.

  70. I can easily see how Rs can justify the vote. They didn’t want to let the Ds shut down the government and let the Rs take the blame.

    If I could have one wish for Christmas, it is that the GOP would buy this single effing clue: It doesn’t matter what you do or what you don’t do, the Democrats [spit] and the Lickspittle Media [spit] (BIRM) will blame you for it.

    Stop trying to get them to like you. Stop trying to get them to treat you fair. Ain’t happening, buttercup. Hoist the Jolly Roger and start slitting throats and splitting skulls.

    But I have given up on the GOP leadership [spit], since it seems that, regardless of the circumstances, they are far more enthusiastic about attacking the Tea Party and classical liberals than they are about attacking Democrats [spit] and the Lickspittle Media [spit].

  71. Dalekhunter says December 12, 2013 at 6:47 pm
    cool NR lets dissemble the military together. pentagon included.
    - See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52192#comments

    That would be illegal.

  72. cry me a river leigh. it’s a shit deal that forces people out into the cold in the name of ‘compromise.’ not to mention all federal employees are getting a 3 year pay freeze and will have to contribute more to their pensions. – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52192#comment-1041099

    Whoa! Somebody’s ox is being gored. Cry me a river. The vast majority of the American public can get along just fine without you and your phoneybaloney EPA job.

  73. I think it’s cute that dogvomit doesn’t know what the word “dissemble” means, when in fact it’s his job description.

  74. 1 million long term unemployed will now get their unemployment insurance taken away. – See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52192#comment-1041115

    Ba haaa haaa … prepare for the stupid, because here it comes:

    Van Hollen says Democrats would pay for the extension of unemployment benefits by “getting rid of some of these very high, excessive agriculture subsidies.”

    But Pelosi said she doesn’t think Democrats should have to find money to pay for the extension of jobless benefits:

    “I don’t even think it should be paid for, because you know why? It’s an emergency. And we traditionally have not paid for unemployment insurance. It’s insurance that has been paid into.

    And so why — it’s a benefit that has been paid into, so why do we have to pay for it again? I don’t think we should have to. But if it’s the price that we have to pay to go forward on that, while we want to make this philosophical debate as to whether it’s an emergency and should be paid for, still, these families are suffering.”

  75. It’s an EMERGENCY folks. Plus, its been paid into already. Just like social security.

  76. Nancy is sooper jeenus with the maths.

  77. Not just the maths, but also the words. Does she not know what “emergent” means? I mean, we warned her that her policies were putting people out of work. We explained to her that she was shutting down job-creation and growth. And her response? She doubled down! And now this shrieking harpy has the stones to pretend that this is a sudden and unexpected development?

    Guess we know who wound up with Boehner’s balls…

  78. Yesterday’s insurance is today’s benefit is tomorrow’s entitlement.

  79. After 99 weeks of the unemployment cure, joblessness is no longer what you’e suffering from.

  80. *hapwloop*

    *hapwloop*

    *hapwloop*

  81. I would diagnose that as a terminal case of sloth.

  82. And remember, people, avoid eating seafood in months containing vowels.

  83. *during*

  84. - Oh, isn’t that just precious. San Frn granny is trying to do economics again.

    - That “thing” is some kind of industrial strength stupid inside all that botox.

  85. Nan knows from economics, BBH. Her husband is a Bankster, after all.

  86. “15 million weekly listeners, Slaphead.”

    Not to put too fine a point on it, but that’s three times the (alleged) margin of victory that Dear Leader Barack Hussein Obama had over Romney in the 2012 election.

  87. - If she knows from economics I’d venture to say its along the gold digger lines of “knowing”, which doesn’t translate to understanding as much as aggressive preditor.

  88. I’m at the point of Queen of Hearts-”Off with their heads!”

  89. I have sympathy for people on unemployment, and the ones losing it after 99 weeks. The job market out there is fucking tough.

    I don’t blame the math-aware Republicans for saying no more though. I blame the mother fucking commie bastards like Obama, Pelosi, and Dog Vomit for doing all they can to sabotage capitalism, private enterprise, and the free market economy. THEY are the ones responsible for the poor bastards needing unemployment in the first place.

    Then to think their cauterized consciences let them stand up and blame us, the ones wanting to give them employment instead of unemployment. I have nothing but contempt for the cock sucking sons of bitches.

  90. education

    Mostly funded at the state and local level. Try again.

  91. Cite for that.

    Federal government shoulders less than 13% of primary and secondary education expenses. State and local revenues split the rest roughly equally.

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