December 5, 2013

Oopsie. A mistaken wandering off the plantation?

“EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson Tells Congress ‘No Proven Cases Where Fracking Has Affected Water’”.

Matt Damon hardest hit.

(h/t Ezra Levant)

Posted by Jeff G. @ 11:24am
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  1. Oopsie, did someone say gas?

  2. Here. Let me comment.

    This is the “Spotted Owl” syndrome, where pushing the narrative, thus to shut down a hated industry, is more important than any degree of truth.

  3. Speaking of environmental issues, NRO is asking for help with Steyn’s legal fund against Michael “Hockey Putz” Mann.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/365372/help-us-kick-some-jack-fowler

  4. Nelson Mandela dead at 95.

  5. My money is on Obama hitting Mandela. Distraction from Ocare.

  6. Old communists never die: they only transmutate into saintly iconic moral guides. Have a cookie.

  7. Pics of then Senator Obama meeting with Mandela are already circulating on the interwebs.

    Both a couple of Marxist stooges, if you ask me.

  8. Indeed, sdferr. Full on lionization is in progress as we type.

  9. Faux announces Obama’s on deck at the WH.

    Incoming . . .

  10. Assuming this is about Mandela’s death, bets on how many times Zero manages to mention himself?

  11. # of times Obama mentions himself > # of times he mentions Mandela

  12. May he rest in peace. Glad he did not have to die in jail.

  13. It being a well-known Truth that the only good Commie is a dead Commie, Mandela is now, finally, worthy of that descriptor.

  14. It being a well-known Truth that the only good Commie is a dead Commie, Mandela is now, finally, worthy of that descriptor.

    “with our matches and necklaces, we’ll liberate this country!”

  15. It being a well-known Truth that the only good Commie is a dead Commie, Mandela is now, finally, worthy of that descriptor.

    I’d say this attitude is unwarranted. Mandela’s communist leanings, to the extent that they weren’t in name only, weren’t reflected to any large degree in his administration policies nor in South Africa’s revised Constitution, which he helped author and signed.

    You should give it a read. It doesn’t subjugate the state to communist objectives. It doesn’t give a lot of power to the head of state to do as they please. It does affirm individual rights and liberties above that of the state. And, most of all, it affirms the right to property to about the same degree our Constitution does. It does have a lot of things in it about rectification of past wrongs that the authors should have recognized would become overcome by events in a fairly short time. I don’t claim that it gives citizens as many freedoms as our Constitution does, but it’s certainly a departure from outright communism.

    Mandela was not a perfect man, but he was involved in a movement that shouldered aside a state that was fundamentally evil in nature and replaced it with something far more equitable. South Africa is much, MUCH more free now than it was before the rule of apartheid fell.

    I’d welcome any counterarguments on this. I really haven’t read a lot about this, but I do know a few things.

    Communism itself is, in my opinion, not inherently evil. It’s the totalitarianism that’s the problem. If people want to form a commune and share everything amongst themselves, they can knock themselves out. If they want to control everything and everyone in the country, there’s where I have a problem. But there are non-communist totalitarian states as well, and those also do a rather decent job of slaughtering the undesirable components of their citizenry and curtailing freedoms. Where communism tends to outshine other forms of government to these ends is it’s more effectivelydriven by the fervor of belief that all this slaughter and oppression is necessary and good, and when the job is done everything will be unicorns farting rainbows and shitting skittles, and everyone will just pull together and live happily ever after.

    Which never, ever has happened and never will, because the person that climbs to the top of the heap has other ideas.

  16. So, shorter me: Mandela left his part of the world in a much better condition than it was a quarter century ago, and deserves some recognition as being an important part of that change.

    Whether he was a thwarted sekrit commie or not, I could really give a flying fuck. People have fantasies. It’s what they do that is important.

  17. There are no good guys in some struggles, just different devils ripping at each other. The devil that wins gets his hands washed clean.* Sometimes if we are lucky it is the lesser devil of the two that wins.

    * if you don’t look too close. Out out damned spot.

    Teflon

    I just don’t know the layman’s terms
    To call the mess you breed
    What thaws beneath this surface
    Soils blood to your family tree

    The dates they change with each new phase
    I’m anxious bouts of nervous

    What am I without the bruises?
    This switch, it won’t come on
    What do I do to lose it beneath this distress call?

    Let the wheels burn, let the wheels burn
    Stack the tires to the neck with a body inside
    Let the wheels burn, let the wheels burn
    Stack the tires to the neck with a body inside

    Frames of infrared
    Keep scrolling into focus
    Scarab crank the busy signal
    With the habits that you notice

    The dates they change with each new phase
    I’m anxious bouts of nervous

    What am I without the bruises?
    This switch, it won’t come on
    What do I do to lose it beneath this distress call?

    Let the wheels burn, let the wheels burn
    Stack the tires to the neck with a body inside
    Let the wheels burn, let the wheels burn
    Stack the tires to the neck with a body inside

    Taking all the hostages into the Oval Office
    Draw the curtains, part their hair and pull the trigger softly
    If they have me committed then I’ll just take you with me

    One driver in your motorcade
    Is all it takes, is all it takes
    Sandmen grains in Teflon veins
    Is all it takes, is all it takes

    What am I without the bruises?
    This switch, it won’t come on
    What do I do to lose it beneath this distress call?

    Let the wheels burn, let the wheels burn
    Stack the tires to the neck with a body inside
    Let the wheels burn, let the wheels burn
    Stack the tires to the neck with a body inside

    Mars Volta – Teflon Lyrics | MetroLyrics

  18. “It’s what they do that’s important.”

    The necklacing? Seems that advocating the placing of tires filled with burning gasoline around one’s enemies’ necks should take away at least a couple international style points.

  19. The connection between Mandela and necklacing is what, exactly?

  20. Winnie Mandela, his then wife.

    I question if Mandela would be held in such high regard had the Soviet Union not collapsed.

  21. Winnie Mandela spoke approvingly of necklacing. Nelson divorced her a few years after being freed from prison.

    Nelson’s connection to necklacing seems rather more thin than would account for the hatred, from my point of view.

    I don’t seek to whitewash his past, but neither should it be blackwashed.

  22. Had Mandela turned into a totalitarian, murdering dictator, I would have no brief for the guy. But he didn’t do that.

  23. Of course not. Winnie was a much bigger offender than Nelson. That said, he did advocate terrorism prior to his imprisonment.

    I stand by my statement re: the Soviet Union’s collapse and the release of Mandela. Had the Soviets still been a world power, he may have reverted to his bad ways rather than following a more peaceful path.

    I think De. Klerk’s contribution to the end of appartide is swept under the rug in the adulation of Mandela. They shared the Nobel Peace Prize, but other than a stamp, who sees or hears of De Klerk anymore? He’s become a footnote in Mandela’s lifestory.

    The Dutch have largely fled SA and it has become terribly unsafe for whites. Mandela did little if anything to combat the spread of AIDS yet he is championed for doing so. The man? The myth? It’s hard to untangle the two.

  24. Thanks, palaeo. I was just going to look for that.

  25. I’m not saying he’s another Martin Luther King, mind you.

    But that page does carry a link between Nelson Mandela and necklacing, but (curiously) it’s one of the few assertions made there that went uncited.

    But you can find it cited elsewhere. I can’t find any cites that lead anywhere that actually has those quotes, though. They nearly all lead back to that same article, which may have gotten it from a book and not sourced the quote.

  26. I remember back when we were an oppressed bunch of colonists. Violence never entered our minds; we were all of a common, Gandhi-esque mind.

  27. He’s a great man if you squint and never go into the room with the locked door.

  28. Ghandi was also not a man of peace as he has been mythologized.

    But one plaster saint at a time, please.

  29. Slart, the MLK of his time is not the MLK as taught, either. For instance, as one leaves the MLK museum, the back wall boasts a large poster of Malcolm X. What?

    I’ll concede that Mandela wasn’t a completely evil bastard and that he did a masterful job of rehabilitating his image and creating the Man, the Myth, the Legend.

    Frontpagemagazine.com has background on Mandela in their database that is easily searchable.

  30. Ghandhi was also not a man of peace as he has been mythologized.

    Yeah, I am going to need a cite on that claim. But you already knew that, so why not provide it from the get-go?

  31. I’ll concede that Mandela wasn’t a completely evil bastard and that he did a masterful job of rehabilitating his image and creating the Man, the Myth, the Legend.

    My position is not too far from this, only I don’t really give so much of a crap about the image-rehabilitation part.

  32. Slart, the MLK of his time is not the MLK as taught, either

    That’s pretty much a given. Look behind any of the Great Historical Figures and you’ll find a story about a human being, with human failings and inconsistencies.

    Anyone who’s read history outside school textbooks has to be aware of this.

  33. Dude, I am not the enemy.

    I thought we were just having a discussion. You know me better than that.

  34. Here’s another one, in a Where Do We Go From Here? vein:

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/south-africa-in-the-shadows/

  35. Something distinguishes Mandela from the run of the mill politician, to say nothing of the run of the mill dictator type — something that seems to place him into the category of genuine statesman, even if not the finest or highest example of one of these, still, enough of one to have him favorably compared with those highest exemplars. But what’s the thing? And this, the thing that distinguishes, is the very thing the newsmedia is incapable of speaking about, for the newsmedia hasn’t a clue what it is. (See only the idiotic characterizations the newsmedia makes of our own ClownDisaster, who also lacks any knowledge of that which distinguishes Mandela.)

  36. Mandela was a princeling turned communist. Not unlike our BO.

    Not that that is the thing, in itself.

  37. Dude, I am not the enemy.

    Just asking for a cite, because I have never run across anything, anywhere, saying that Gandhi was a violent kind of guy.

    I am not your enemy, nor am I trying to be.

    But moving on:

    The David Horowitz article argues from emotion, which is every bit of what I’d expect from a reformed Communist. But South Africa, although violent, has a murder rate one-third of the world leader, Honduras*.

    *From wikipedia page on murder rate by country.

    As far as Gandhi’s purported violence is concerned, that’s an article written by a guy with no references to anything that can be checked, and can be countered by “uh uh” from me until a cite shows up for it.

    His quote about the Jews is fairly well-known. It was a deplorable thing to say. I’d like to read somewhere that he has defended it, and on what grounds.

  38. Okay. Just making sure we’re still good.

    The Horowitz article is written by a woman whose work I am unfamiliar with and there is an embedded link to the original article, which I admit I have yet to read. I am not familiar with Gandhi other than the myth and that he tried to create a dynasty with his own offspring.

    One of my son’s friends is a native S. African (Dutch) and his family has sold thier holdings and moved to the US. Of course, his mother could be exaggerating how unsafe it is there, but I have heard the same from others. My concern is what is to become of SA now? The whole continent is sad, poor, sick and uneducated.

  39. Maybe I’ll find my copy of Modern Times later.

    A fan of Mahattma Ghandi Paul Johnson isn’t.

  40. The whole continent is sad, poor, sick and uneducated.

    Looks to me more like an orientation toward the ancestral as the good is nearer an explanation of an enduring condition in Africa than not, if we had to generalize — which itself, generalizing that way with such a vast and various place, is probably a bad idea. Still, I think, there’s something to it. Turning it about though, how many of our own problems are rooted in a too insouciant stance toward the ancestral? More than a few, I’ll bet.

  41. Indeed. I can see ancestor worship and the worship of the ancient ways as a stance of both the people of Africa and the rest of the world that purports to be a helpmate.

    Africa can be a superstitious place. Much medical aid is given to the people and they will often times refuse it. They are a land that is rich in natural resources, but tribalism and suspicion of foreign ways (not without some justification) keeps them in poverty.

  42. Subsaharan Africa needs access to energy, their own and imported. But the green wizards prefer to keep most of Africa either burning dung or packed into slums and the bribe the governments with environmental subsidies and aid to keep the majority of a whole continent in poverty. The sooner they wake up, tell the west to fuck off, and look to their own people’s interests without concern for the aims of the agents of Gaia’s billionaire club, the better.

  43. The entire continent is a gold mine, literally. They have powerful rivers in Congo, exploitable minerals and oil reserves, dense forests, attractive coastlines that are ripe for tourist vistas, et cetera. With all that comes tribalism, blood diamonds, slavery, poaching, AIDS and pirates.

    It’s astounding that the entire continent can’t get it’s act together.

  44. The tribalism is what makes them so inclined to put up with what the rest of the world is doing to them for the sake of their sexy Captain Planet fantasies. And no I’m not advocating shooting the last rhino to make Chinese dick medicine. Just EXPLOIT the goddamn energy to industrialize and raise the standard of living.

  45. That would be a plus. Literacy would be good as well, that way maybe people would understand that they can’t punch holes in the gasoline pipe lines without going BOOM!!

  46. I think the USA is in the process of stealthily becoming illiterate by 1. making the meaning of words a power/popularity/victim/consensus/relative status negotiation, and 2. encouraging mass truncation of expression, sloppy informality, and highly momentary contextual keys (like memes and short lived slang or acronyms) to make most written expression about as preservative of information as badly scrawled incomplete notes.

    Smart phones -> dumb people

    And that’s my kooky rant for the night.

  47. by highly momentary -> I mean fleetingly or ephemerally current lingo here.

  48. It’s astounding that the entire continent can’t get it’s act together.

    leigh, a gentleman named Kim du Toit summed up the entire situation 10 years ago in a post called Let Africa Sink

  49. A belated Happy Thanksgiving, SDN. I was just thinking of you the other day, too.

    Thank you for the link. I read a book 15-20 years ago about the Hutu/Tutsi wars from the POV of an American black who came to the same conclusion as Mr. du Toit.

  50. Mandela did little if anything to combat the spread of AIDS yet he is championed for doing so.

    Then GWB should be Canonized.

  51. >Then GWB should be Canonized.<

    yea sure the proggtarded speak the truth:

    @page 158 potpl

    "In this kind of idealization, real socialism employs the familiar
    tried and true method of socialist realism, according to which only
    the typical is real, and only what corresponds to the given ideal is
    typical, that is, whatever has the potential to grow towards the ideal.
    There is, for example, the ideal of socialist man. In our harsh reality,
    anyone who does not correspond to that ideal is atypical. Anyone
    who is atypical, and yet exists, is an 'evil' reality and has no place in
    real socialism. Anyone who is not a socialist man, therefore, can
    only be a residuum of the past, an agent of imperialism, a dissident.
    In any case, he or she is a foreign element. Because this foreign
    element is by definition outside real socialism, however, there are
    only proper socialist people in real socialism. What does it matter
    that we have to invent them and that the overwhelming majority of
    the nation is still foreign to real socialism? The essential thing is that
    the socialist man is typical of real socialism. Another of our ideals is
    that of free and creative work as one of the vital needs of socialist
    man. What does it matter that we guarantee this free work by
    making work compulsory, that its creative aspect, as far as most
    of the nation is concerned, is manifested in seeking ways to shirk
    it, that this foremost vital need is not pleasurable, but a necessary
    evil to earn a livelihood? The only typical and real work is socialist
    work.
    And so a real socialist man necessarily becomes a schizophrenic.
    As a practical politician he fights against the total pervasiveness of
    indifference, bribery, passivity, absenteeism, theft on the job and
    lack of principles, but as an ideologist he oozes enthusiasm over the
    typical aspects of socialist work, socialist commitment, socialist
    unselfishness and socialist integrity. As an ideologist, he is a socialist
    man, but as a practical politician he is given special treatment in the
    government hospital, and he does his shopping in special shops,
    lives in a special residential district and has his children chauffeured
    to school in official limousines."

  52. Then GWB should be Canonized

    I believe that history will be kind to Dubya. He may not live to see it, though.

    And no, I did not endorse his compassionate conservative spendthrifting.

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