Or rather, let’s listen to some sanctimonious twat pat herself on the back for speaking out for the poor fatties whom she evidently oppresses with her genetics and / or workout regimen, and which corpulent beasts need a thin women’s championing, lest the poor cows be left to fend for their waddling, huffing, portly selves in a society so unfair that its members are conditioned — brainwashed, in fact, be it by popular media, or some antiquated cultural norm born out of, say, the last vestiges of a Protestant work ethic — to make snap judgments about people based on something so inconsequential as, eg., whether or not they can fit comfortably into an airplane seat, or whether or not they are at an increased risk of dropping dead after you spent time and energy (and even money) training them for a job.
— On second thought, let’s not talk about thin privilege. Let’s instead label it for what it is — some new area of grievance politics for leftist academics or Hollywood starlets to trot out when they want either cheap grace or, in the case of the former to control us by controlling our thoughts, then create public policy that enforces such politically correct coercion — and once labeled, let’s point and laugh at just how derivative it is of other, more widely-accepted tenets of identity-politic grievance mongering, like, eg., “white privilege,” that are just as conniving and destructive of individual liberty, but which are more firmly institutionalized by force of shame and guilt.
And let’s do it quickly. Before people realize that it isn’t satire, and that the entire establishment feminist movement has become so hungry for a cause to justify its continued social carping that it is now having to resort to inventing shit like this.
the only person I know who’s actively in the fat-shaming business is this one bored-ass hoochie married to the goddamn piece of shit american president
i saw her on the tv she was wearing fancy clothes and talking about how we should all eat ants on a log so we can stop being fat and disgusting
Can I be on neither side here?
The Kang woman seems pretty insufferable. I don’t doubt she works out hard, but her “fat” pictures (with baby weight) show she has never had any kind of serious weight problem. Most of her supporters seem to justify her activities based upon “society’s concern with obesity” meaning socialized medicine gives other people a say about your health.
I hate the victim thing the other side is playing up.
What happens when the professional left starts complaining about athletic privilege (some are born with greater physical ability than others) or intellectual privilege (some people are just smarter than others) or work ethical privilege (some people willingly work harder and are more dependable than others) or marital privilege (it isn’t fair that children of married people do better than those from single parent household)?
When do we reach a tipping point of realizing that the game is to keep you uncomfortable and forever at their mau-mauing whims rather any objective standard whose attainment would mark success and an end to their sophistry?
Let’s don’t give Samoans and other biggitudinous Polynesians a second thought, neither in their comings nor their goings, their fastings nor their banquetings. Sex-selective trait tracing is so yesterdayian. And Epictetus? Ignore him.
I decree that the word “privilege” may no longer be used to denote one’s dissatisfaction with one’s state in life or to shame others who have something they covet.
A long time ago, I worked in a vocational school bookstore which sold women’s lab coats for the dental assistant program. The coats were made in China and apparently the manufacturers had a peculiar scale for determining sizes; that is, the size designations were substantially higher than whatever is standard here. On many occasions, students (of all body types) would refuse to get coats which fit because they said they were not the size printed on the label. Today, they’d probably sue the school.
They should never buy shoes in the EU then. I have small feet and I believe I’d wear a 36 instead of a 6.
Self identifying angry victim activist privilege must end.
I’d rather talk about Stupid Privilege. That’s the one that’s really causing trouble.
Has Jeff just completely run out of stuff to bitch about?
– We need a Goodwins rule for “privilege” the same as we have for Hitler.
Reminds me of that trusty, comment thread chestnut: “children are starving (or something) and you are complaining about (whatever).”
inane,
What’s up? Mommy didn’t cut the crusts off your sandwich today?
– Ah yes, its our resident Prog-troll, come to set us all straight and correct our errant ways. In this case the word “bitch” is use as a euphamism to apply to any comments that disagree with the Leftist Narrative™, perfect as it always is in all regards.
charles
Too late. The Left hates hates hates parents who actually volunteer at schools and do fundraisers which allows the kids at those schools to be “more privileged” than at others.
– Shoudn’t you be off declaring the magic sky-god dead or hecktoring O’Bumblefuck for deporting so many productive aliens or something.
“Has Jeff just completely run out of stuff to bitch about? ”
Dumb empty generic heckling with no point. 15 yard penalty. No down.
Has Jeff just completely run out of stuff to bitch about?
You just hate anything that contradicts the fantasy world set up in your head, don’t you? It’s okay, you can admit it, we promise not to laugh too loudly…
I figured he’d be organizing a committee to remove crèches from public display via his HOA. And stopping those damned kids from caroling.
– Darleen, unachievers need love toooooo. /busybodies
– BTW Slappy, what to make of the SHOP one year delay today by the WH gestoppo.
– I expect you have some wonderfully temporizing wordy pretzel logic good reason for it, like all the other endless broken promises of O’Care.
*crickets*
It’s only so they can make it more gooder, BBH.
“What happens when the professional left starts complaining about athletic privilege…?”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron
It’s because Obamacare is such an awesome deal that they want to give people more time to appreciate what an awesome deal it is.
Also, they don’t want to run up the score on the Republicans by letting the voters know what an awesome deal they’re going to get right before the election. For fairness.
Who do you think is doing that volunteering? Above average income liberal parents. Sometimes even a stay at home dad (gasp!) (unless you’re talking about the private American madrasas that religtards send their kids to lest they hear about the satan darwin evolution)
(unless you’re talking about the private American madrasas that religtards send their kids to lest they hear about the satan darwin evolution)
– ZOMG Slappy, did you just defame the religeon of peaciness and love?
(unless you’re talking about the private American madrasas that religtards send their kids to lest they hear about the satan darwin evolution)
Thanks for taking off the mask, steve. Feels good, doesn’t it?
poor wittle inane, trying to troll about subjects he has no clue about …
which is just about everything …
– But what about the delay Slappy, or didn’t you get the memo yet?
I’m feeling slandered. I volunteered when my kids were small and I’ve never been a “liberal”.
“Who do you think is doing that volunteering? Above average income liberal parents.”
In your dreams, bigot.
for I’ve grown a little leaner grown a little colder grown a little sadder grown a little older
You know, when you make statements that are false, it undermines anything else you might emit.
– You don’t have a chance Leigh. You are in that privileged white group of achievers that work hard, have morals, believe in things like faith, and just generally make everyone with those work habits and ethics missing feel terrible about themselves. You should be ashamed.
– H8ter
By the way, Slaphead: by far the largest group of religious schools in the United States is run by the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church hasn’t had an official position against evolution since 1950, and unofficially for generations before that.
Islam isn’t a religion of peace and love. Nor is Judaism. Christianity is the most peacey and lovey, but it still hauls the Old Testament along with it.
Although you can find lots of people in all those religions who are wonderful, generous, and moderate human beings – they just tend to get there in spite of their holy books.
“You know, when you make statements that are false,”
Such as the statement that religious schools, as a whole, are opposed to evolution and see it as a Satanic doctrine? Like that?
when you make statements that are false, it undermines anything else you might emit.
http://youtu.be/Cs4Gj7JsET4
– SBP, pointing out the backwards uninformed gossip of the Narrative™ is extremely unhelpful.
Eels just wanna have fun.
Bitches.
As a long-standing (as well as kneeling and sitting) member of the Roman Catholic Church, I can state as a fact that the Church has no conflict regarding Evolutionary Theory and the Divinity of the Creator.
Get your facts straight, stevie.
H8er.
You are in that privileged white group of achievers that work hard, have morals, believe in things like faith, and just generally make everyone with those work habits and ethics missing feel terrible about themselves. You should be ashamed.
Yet, oddly I do not. I’m sure you can relate, you papist.
You’ve never heard of A Beka, apparently. You should read up.
http://www.abeka.com/
Let’s hope more catholics get elected in Texas to defend the teaching of evolution.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/columnists/jacquielynn-floyd/20130915-why-cant-texas-evolve-beyond-anti-science-foolishness.ece
Your team does this shit all the time.
– Actually neither does the Episcapalian or Protestant branches of the christian church. The holy see as well as the holy divinity sees the godhead as having dominion over all as a whole and requires no such anti-Darwinism the Left keeps insisting on attributing to them.
– The way they cling to their a-religeous gossip so bitterly you almost get the feeling its a matter of faith and need on their part. Sad little Proggies. Sad little cult followers.
Your team does this shit all the time.
– Its a strawman Slappy. Setup to support your a-religeous arguments because you can’t claim the moral high ground when you have no moral basis, and man unto himself has none.
– But thats probably a little too nuanced for you Slap, so just chalk it up to you gossiped but none bought it, and call it a day.
If you look hard enough you can find weirdos of every religious stripe. Using them as illustrative of an entire faith is like saying all Baptists are like Fred Phelps and his bad of no-goodniks.
There are always people who want to drag us back to the 10th century. Including those who would kill off our energy generating capacity. Hell, the space program is farmed out to the Russians. It’s just a matter of time until we move back to the caves. Right? Right?
steve seems strangely ungrateful for the blessings in his life, this Thanksgiving Eve.
“You’ve never heard of A Beka, apparently.”
You’ve never heard of the Catholic Church, apparently, or the Episcopalians, or the Presbyterians, or the ELCA, or the Jews, or the Hindus, or the Buddhists, or the Methodists, or the UCCs. Just fringe denominations, to be sure.
http://www.pewforum.org/2009/02/04/religious-groups-views-on-evolution/
Your “team” has murdered a hundred million people in the last century, Slaphead. Are you going to take responsibility for that?
inane is either a liar or hopelessly stupid
“young earth” creationism is a tiny tiny percentage of Christians. The vast majority of Christian denominations see no problem with evolution. Indeed, Genesis accurately describes evolution …
The rub is that Jews and Christians state that God created it … fundie anti-theists state that everything came from nothing.
Which is more “magical” thinking?
“like saying all Baptists are like Fred Phelps and his bad of no-goodniks”
Who, it can’t be noted too often, are Democrats. Fred himself was an Al Gore supporter.
Your “team” has murdered a hundred million people in the last century . . .
Just for accuracy’s sake, I’d like to toss a “systematically” in there between
“has” and “murdered”, SBP.
You spend hours at the beach constructing an elaborate sand castle and the Left self-righteously knocks it down because how dare you.
And where did God come from?
But we can drop it. I’m happy to know you’re not anti-evolution. That’s news.
You see, Slaphead, we’re not on any “team” around here. Anyone who’d engaged with the site would know that we have profound areas of disagreement.
Your “team” is a cult.
You keep wanting to put Stalin on my team, but he was never on my team. That’s a big fat lie that you guys hang a lot of your rhetoric on.
Which is more “magical” thinking?
Answer: The false dichotomy between science and religion.
Science measures things. Religion is the quest for holiness. The two realms don’t overlap. Anyone who thinks they do isn’t thinking.
The creation myth in Genesis is not a proto-scientific attempt to explain, scientifically, how it all came to be. It’s to establish spiritual principles — such as the six on, one off rhythm that the Mosaic law repeats over and over and over.
It’s a mistake to perform a scientific reading on Genesis (as the medievals did); it’s just as big a mistake to perform a spiritual reading on the human genome.
And where did God come from?
Never ask a Mormon: we actually answer that question.
inane
Maybe you can come up with just ONE quote or piece of writing I’ve done that would cast doubt on my science creds
But hey, you’re a bigot, so you don’t need no stinkin facts.
– The axiomatic path to a Postulate for “God” (Platonian logic included):
– There is “something” and all “things” are with us and we percieve these “things”.
– If they did not exist we would not percieve them, and we would not exist to percieve them.
– Since these things exist they had to come from somewhere. something from nothing is illogical.
– The “somewhere” they came from has to have some characteristic(s) beyond just a vacuum. Since whatever it is is beyond our understanding, probably forever, for us that defines a “god” like quality.
– To acribe all existance as eminating from nothing is absurdly illogical.
– Therefore the simplest logical explaination is that there is a higher power that is the source of everything. Q.E.D.
And where did God come from?
Even the non-Mormons render that question irrelevant, because it makes temporal assumptions evidenced by “before,” which exist only when you’re experiencing the fourth spatial dimension as time.
If you’re perceiving the fourth spatial dimension as space, there’s no such thing as “before.”
Conundrum denied.
The two realms don’t overlap. Anyone who thinks they do isn’t thinking.
Save insofar as they manifest in individual human beings, one might say. Or to put it another way, Western civilization developed from two distinct fonts or traditions, which two may or may not be in agreement regarding the cosmos.
– Therefore the simplest logical explaination is that there is a higher power that is the source of everything. Q.E.D.
Or that everything has always existed; the forms change but there was no “nothing” out of which things came, because they always were.
BTW
Exodus 3:14
Revelation 1:8
“You keep wanting to put Stalin on my team, but he was never on my team”
Ah, yes. The old “but that wasn’t REAL Communism” nonsense.
Stalin absolutely was on your team.
Obama even chose Marxist professors as his friends when he was in college. Look it up.
Therefore the simplest logical explaination is that there is a higher power that is the source of everything. Q.E.D.
You’re chasing the God of the Gaps, whose realm must necessarily shrink as scientific inquiry fills in those gaps.
The existence of the God of Abraham must be revealed, which revelation is a spiritual method of acquiring knowledge. Trying to use logic or science to infer God is like trying to measure the distance to a star with an anemometer.
To acribe all existance as eminating from nothing is absurdly illogical.
And yet I’ve heard Prager debate a ‘scientist’ who unequivocally states that, yes, everything we see did come from “nothing” via a “natural” process. We are just not as smart as he is to grasp the [quantum] math.
Don’t tell God that.
And what’s the simplest explanation for that higher power?
That logic works for the universe too.
Some of us here even have actual advanced degrees in the sciences. But hey, there’s always something to learn about science from the marketroids (in other words, “trained liars”).
Psst… no one tell Slaphead who came up with the Big Bang Theory. We wouldn’t want his head to assplode.
Stalin absolutely was on your team.
Other players included but not limited to: Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jung Il and Un, Castro, Guevara, Ayers (if he had his way) and Obama and minions (numbers to be released at a later date).
You’re completely happy with a God that’s beyond human understanding, but somehow owed a universe that three pounds of goo can grok in fullness.
No, that was just real communism. There just aren’t many communists holding office today. Baraky certainly isn’t one.
Or that everything has always existed; the forms change but there was no “nothing” out of which things came, because they always were.
Exactly, dicentra. steve is a victim of the concept of the “shoebox god”. If it doesn’t make sense to steve’s idea of what God is and can do, God must not exist.
– As a physicist di I don’t even have a problem with overlaying religeon with science. If Quantum everything turns out to be true I can happily accept that form as the embodiment of the higher power, or “God” if thats more to your liking.
– The simple fact is that the more we understand the Cosmos and unify the forces of nature, the more we see it as an awsome resonance and symphony of wildly disperate parts that have a synchronicity thats both beautiful and simple and impossibly ordered to have come full blown out of nothing.
– As a scientist to ask me to believe that would be the same as denying cause and effect. Can’t abide by that. Theres a reason we call the Higgs the God particle.
“Baraky certainly isn’t one”
Your evidence for this would be? He certainly has appointed communists to government office. Van Jones, to name just one.
dicentra
Science describes things, the “how” and the “what”. Religion gets into the “why” of existence.
They are separate, but they go together, kind of like the yolk and the white that both make up an egg.
Science was/is a tool for Jews and Christians to learn everything they can about God’s creation. And the more we learn, the more amazing it is.
It’s not really that. It’s that God as an explanation for something actually explains nothing.
– I imagine you won’t find this very satisfying Slappy, but the very meaning of “God” in most societies is “beyond understanding”. So of course trying to explain God explains nothing. If it did it wouldn’t be “God”.
Golly, Obama has made 1400 appointments, and you found one communist. That would made Baraky 0.07% communist. Because I would think a real communist would appoint, like 70% communists.
God is the Alpha and the Omega, steve.
Read harder Big. I wasn’t trying to explain God. I was saying that using God as an explanation for something (life, the universe, etc), actually explains nothing. It does encourage you to stop looking for an explanation though – which was probably the point.
“Golly, Obama has made 1400 appointments, and you found one communist.”
Keep spinning, Slaphead.
Actually, his appointees are about 50% Communist, 50% Chicago Outfit.
Diversity!
There’s a reason we call the Higgs the God particle.
My son was trying to explain it to me one day, BBH. I don’t have the background in physics he does, though.
Why do you worship something that supposedly describes itself as such an abominable asshole?
“. I was saying that using God as an explanation for something (life, the universe, etc), actually explains nothing.”
A marketroid said it. I believe it. That settles it.
You’re operating way outside your core competency area, Slaphead. Assuming that such an area even exists.
Why do you worship something that supposedly describes itself as such an abominable asshole?
I guess I’m supposed to get outraged or clutch the pearls at your language, now? Unpack that statement you just made, please.
Einstein:“God doesn’t throw dice with the universe.”
Ferme’: “Yes he does and sometimes he throws them where you can’t even see them.
Einstein: “Don’t tell God what to do.”
Ferme’: “God does what he wants, even if you don’t like it.”
– In a very simple short way of explaination Leigh, the Higgs imparts mass to every other particle, therefore its the universal “source”, hence “the God particle”. Without mass, the massless state of all particles render them like “ghosts”. You can’t interact with something that has no mass/energy. So in a sense when the Higgs “gives” mass to a paticle it gives it life. Maybe even “spirit”, who knows.
Seriously? Go read the old testament. Even just Genesis from end to end.
Einstein rejected the notion of a personal god.
Jesus Christ. (sigh)
http://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/the-higgs-particle/the-higgs-faq-2-0/
– BTW, for anyone who doubts that conversation took place, Albert told me, laughing as he did so, that him and Ferme’ actually did have many arguments along those lines and it is factual.
“Seriously? Go read the old testament. Even just Genesis from end to end.”
You’re still operating on your cartoon parody of a Christian as someone who believes in the inerrant, infallible nature of the Bible.
Hint: you’re about 500 years out of date.
Einstein rejected the notion of a personal god.
– Ok Slappy, now you’vd stepped in it. That statement is total bullshit. I knew Einstein, and he was a deeply religeous man. He kept his feelings to himself for practical reasons. But I would hardly expect you to know that.
– How many times did you visit with Einstein Steve?
Why do you worship something that supposedly describes itself as such an abominable asshole?
You worship someone who doesn’t describe himself that way, but turns out to be one anyway. Why is that, Dog Vomit?
Einstein rejected the notion of a personal god.
I think the adjective “personal” is supposed to be Dog Vomit’s escape hatch. Because he spent long hours in deep philosophical discussion with the man, of course.
Didn’t you, DV?
Thanks, BBH. That’s a good quick explanation.
It’s so cool that you knew Einstein. steve will call you a liar in three, two, one . . .
“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”
Quit lying about the man tiny banger.
Toldjah.
– Quit talking about something you have no first hand experience with Slappy, you’re just repeating the first rule of holes with each new uninformed statement.
– I don’t bear-bait well slappy. You’ll need a lot more than that to get a raise out of me. As far as Einstein, if you want to know what he said about things just ask.
– Young turks are always the source of their own embarrassment.
That “quote” of Einstein’s is attributed to Richard Dawkins, btw.
So, consider the source.
I don’t have to ask. He made unambiguous public statement on the topic, very clearly, to set the record straight.
Jesus Christ, leigh:
http://books.google.com/books?id=T5R7JsRRtoIC&pg=PA43#v=onepage&q&f=false
“According to Richard Dawkins he did. It is mentioned in the review here: http://www.amazon.com/God-Delusion-Richa… “
Stop making a fool of yourself, steve.
Sorry about the broken link. It’s old. Look it up on your own.
Einstein penned it in 1954. That seems to predate the Dawkins book and (wait for it, wait for it, wait for it), is the SOURCE of Dawkins assertion. I’m glad your husband knew where to put the pointy end because you’re too dumb to have been of any help.
You keep digging, DV… Want a bigger shovel? Jefferson didn’t believe in a “personal” God, either.
Does that make him an atheist?
Put your back into it!
You’re the side that injected Einstein into this conversation to begin with.
Neither did the Native Americans, nor do Buddhists, nor do Shintoists, and on and on…
All atheists, according to Dog Vomit…
“Random Fluctuations in Foamy Space doesn’t play dice with the Universe.”
– So lets see Slappy. As of now you are asserting a person to person discussion is totally negated by a third hand written account in some artivcle. Got it.
– With that revelation I also have it straight that discussing anything with you is a waste of time.
– Go back to playing in your sandbox son.
“In the beginning was a whole lot of nothing. Which then exploded. Ergo, Our Universe.”
Sounds really logical to me.
tell us, DV, what lies beyond the point where the Hubble red shift equals the speed of light?
BBH, I don’t appreciate some interloper trashing your first person account regarding actual real time conversations with Einstein.
I believe it is time for steve to leave.
– Leigh, when you see it from the crows nest, its hard not to keep from laughing. Its that inane, as Darlene puts it. Its like some six year old calling you stupid. You don’t get angry, you feel sorry for the poorly raised child if you feel anything. In Slappys case, Nada.
– Steve-o is at that point where hes slipping behind badly and is trying to catch up by name calling, the go-to for all Progressives when they are sucking the gas.
– The retreat to the perjorative proves you have no argument. everything after that is just hot air and a waste of everyones time.
– He can’t deal with that, Won’t deal with it. Watch.
“A magic man created it by talking”
Sounds really logical to me.
So what caused the Big Bang, DV? Or (let’s whisper it) Who?
When they start trying to bait with ad hominem attacks, well they got nothin’.
What caused God?
– Besides, its always a good thing to have a counterdictorian around to give you an uneducated, ideological view of things, sort of a sanity check, and Progressives are excellant examples of ideologs and Narrative parrots.
– You’re not equiped to ask that question Steve-dolt, but then you’re also not equipped to understand why you’re not equiped to ask that question, so its not surprising.
>What caused God?<
go ask god
What caused God?
And your next question will be “Can God make a weight so large He can’t lift it?”, no doubt.
You’re a moron.
I also note that you didn’t answer the question. Does the Almighty Science not have an answer for that?
– The answer to all your nitwit questions Steve-dolt is that God does what he wants whether you like it or not.
– When you are a materialist like yourself, thats a real punch in the gut. Suddenly you’re not nearly as important any more.
Almighty Science doesn’t have answers to a great many things. But we do have more answers than we had a decade ago, and a century ago, and a millenia ago.
Why does that bother you so much? More importantly, why do need to inject something that’s even less understood (God) as an explanation?
if you take the answers we have now and subtract the answers we had a decade ago what you’re left with are just the newest shiniest answers
– All this God talk is a grand distraction Steve-dolt, but about that latest O’Care delay, more lies, or great news?
Almighty Science doesn’t have answers to a great many things.
Including the exact scope of your encyclopedic ignorance, no doubt. But they KNOW FOR CERTAIN (SWEARSIES) that God doesn’t exist. Got it.
Still waiting for an answer, DV.
Should Obama be forced to follow the specifics of his own law, or is he nothing more than a childish dictator, changing whatever he wants to suit his whim du jour?
>Almighty Science doesn’t have answers to a great many things.<
For example: something as seemingly well established as the radius of the lowly proton is being called into question.
He’s apparently the latter. Kind of unfortunate that there isn’t a sane opposition party to hold him in check.
– I mean common Steve-dolt, for many days you’ve been a one-man cheerleading squad for O’Care, surely you can explain this latest ploy, er change.
O’care is probably ultimately going to be a success and be popular, but how we’re getting there – yikes!
Kind of unfortunate that there isn’t a sane opposition party to hold him in check.
So you’re okay with the tyranny, as long as you agree with the guy in charge? Got it. Because that will NEVER change.
O’care is probably ultimately going to be a success and be popular
Right up until those 80-100 million people lose their insurance. 15 million have already lost theirs, but hey, Your Lord and Master is handing out waivers left and right, refusing to prosecute here, forcing a charitable hospital closed down over there, but settled law, right?
Just like Prohibition.
the monster
O’careis probably ultimately going to be a “success” and destroy 1/6th of the economybe popular,Chicago is known for three things:
1. Pizza.
2. Gangsters.
3. Corrupt politicians.
We know Obama isn’t a pizza.
– Yes, making law fron the oval office must be an unsettling activity, even for a Progressive. I see your point.
Oh, I’m not OK with it. It’s basically terrible, and I shudder at how far your team is going to run with that precedent.
Oh, I’m not OK with it.
Sure you are. You’re not doing anything about it are you?
No. No you’re not.
What do you mean? I’m typing comments on a blog. Isn’t that your plan for restoring the Republic?
We know Obama isn’t a pizza.
Chicago-style pizza sucks.
Obama sucks.
Therefore, Obama is a Chicago style pizza.
Oh, I’m not OK with it. It’s basically terrible, and I shudder at how far your team is going to run with that precedent.
So when that time comes, you will sit down, and have a nice big cup of STFU juice. Or not, and be exposed as a hypocrite, as well as a liar and a fool.
Isn’t that your plan for restoring the Republic?
No. No it isn’t.
Isn’t that your plan for restoring the Republic?
No, restoring the Republic actually involves repealing all of the destructive things your ilk has been pulling over the last century.
The IRS, the 17th Amendment, the EPA, Dept of Education, et cetera, et alia, ad nauseum
Obama sucks.
No, a vacuum sucks. Obama stinks on ice.
Alternate answer: “Just not particularly well, according to Mooshelle’s friends.”
Glock, paper, scissors Drum.
– You know I may regret it tomorrow, but I’m willing to give Steve-o the benefit of the doubt that he understands that among all the great ideas the light-bringer was hopefully going to bring to the table, a whole lot of things have turned ou differently than he campaigned on, and you can see that in the ebbing of enthusiasm in Obamas base.
– Do I hate that so many of the young meleniums followed the sirens call out to pleasure island, yes, yes I do.
– Will I hold it against them. Having been young and immensely energetic but tragically naive myself once, no, no I will not.
– What I think about now is how to get about the business of righting the ship, keeping what good things have been introduced, Conservatism isn’t perfect after all, and is a bit too rigid at times, but reversing the tragic mistakes that ignore reality and human nature and are built on identity politic lies.
It’s a deal. You BTW, will need to scream bloody murder about it and not fall back on, “It was terrible when your team did it so it’s fine for us to do it.” trope.
“basically terrible”
See, this kind of structural composition smacks of an inferior education. A thing cannot be “basically” terrible. Especially when one is speaking of tyranny. Tyranny is terrible. “Basically” implies that there is an incremental scale of the terrible.
– Yeah, that “well you guys did it too” meme is as lame as it gets.
I did it when Bush was in office, so you can rest assured. I am against all of those scumsuckers out there (and rest further assured that I include you among their number) who are for government taking over things they have no authority to.
It was always easier telling the death threats from the right from those sent by jackasses on the left. The ones from the right were better spelled and some attempt at grammar was made.
– Temporizing Leigh, its whats for dinner. Helps swallow things you’re not too proud of.
It’s kind of the soft tyranny of desperately wanting to help 40 million people that have no health insurance vs the hard tyranny of sending people off to death camps. And no, one does not lead to the other.
It’s kind of the soft tyranny of desperately wanting to help 40 million people that have no health insurance vs the hard tyranny of sending people off to death camps.
Not a single one of those 40 million (which number was pulled out of someone’s ass, and has already been repeatedly refuted) was actually prevented from getting actual health CARE, and in fact that was a huge driver of the high costs. And in the mean time, that 40 million has grown to almost 60, with another 80-100 million more to come. How’s that working out for ya?
And no, one does not lead to the other.
“The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more.” — Michelle Obama
The camps come when people start to complain about being the ones that things are being stolen from to give to the goldbrickers out there. Robin Hood as a form of government doesn’t last very long. Pretty soon, you run out of other people’s money.
Our folks don’t march folks to death camps or on Trail of Tears marches, either. Those people are called “democrats”.
STOP HELPING US!! we exclaimed as we watched our carefully chosen health insurance plans get farted away by the Wan.
“What caused God?”
Did you look up which scientist came up with the Big Bang Theory, Slaphead?
I’m pretty sure he wasn’t an atheist.
By the way, what is this “team” jazz? Marketroid-speak, or do you have a mental age of about 12?
There is no I in team, but there are two Us in go fuck yourself.
– Problem is if you don’t think it out clearly, and really dot all the T’s and cross all the i’s you are in danger of ending up with the uninsured covered and 80 million who were covered now facing either cancelled policies with really jacked up premiums/deductables, for some meaning no insurance. so you’re fixed one problem and made an even worse one. Worse because at least the second group was paying customers for the most part. You’ve replaced them with welfare recipients. Wheres the money going to come from? Well from tax payers, many of whom are now denied affordable care. Wonderful plan.
– Can you imagine the nightmare we’ll have if millions of people are unable to afford healthcare under the new rules, but are paying for the indigents healthcare through taxes. I don’t even want to go there.
I thought he said he was a “market researcher”, Spies (although I admit I wasn’t paying close attention)?
A little light on the research skills, eh? I’m still going with Communications major.
“40 million people that have no health insurance”
How many of those “40 million” have health insurance now, Slaphead?
The last numbers I saw said about 100,000 had “selected a plan”, which, combined with the 5 million who are actually LOSING their coverage means that your “awesome” system now has about 44,900,000 uninsured.
Heckuva job, Barky.
Market researcher, marketroid, it’s all the same, innit? Fake jobs for fake people.
Oh, and somewhere around 100 million will be losing their coverage next year.
So that would put us at, what, 145 million compared to 40 million?
Sweet.
“O’care is probably ultimately going to be a success and be popular”
And I’m ultimately going to be declared Czar Of All The Russias.
Ted Cruz is tied with Hillary! in the swing state of Colorado, Slaphead. The next election is going to be BRUTAL.
And hey, the next President and Congress (which will not be “your team”) won’t have to pay any attention to those silly filibuster thingies.
market research is the very soul of capitalism without research billions and billions of dollars would be misallocated and malinvested every year
market research is how the big ships in our economy track the icebergs it’s how under-served communities get shiny new places to go spend monies on stuff that hadn’t been readily available up til then
if you haven’t hugged a market researcher today you should
“The truth is, in order to get things like universal health care and a revamped education system, then someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more.” — Michelle Obama
– And in this instance she is absolutely correct, and if the pie becomes essentially fixed in size because of economics you better hope we run at a vast disproportionate middle-class and up real wealth and production level, ree GDP, becaue if not someone is going to get frozen out, and I’m willing toi bet thats going to be the case, especially as the bad economy continues to erode from creeping inflation.
– But pumping, the act of printing more useless paper, is doing just that, and inflation is intended, but will make the “pie distribution” impossibly divided and short fall in coverage.
>if you haven’t hugged a market researcher today you should<
i'm tending toward the knock out game for slapster
*hugs*, happy.
– Oh what the hell Steve-o. Look at the bright side. At least you’ll get free O’Care condoms for christmas.
And the gene pool will be forever grateful.
if you like our agreement…
Is there even an Iran Nuke Deal?
– BBH shuffles through his “drawer of death” for his fake Marketing diploma – :)
I thought the whole idea, conceptually flawed and childish as it is, was that *everyone* would be insured using a sliding scale. An “each according to his needs, each according to his abilities” or however that goes, Comrades?
What happened? Subsidies for thee, but not for me! Freebies for the Congress who foisted the whole caboodle on us! Freebies for the Unions! “Your insurance is ‘substandard’ ! Hand it over and take THIS plan!”
Good idea. Get complacent. It’s yours man. It’s a lock.
You keep claiming that Republican’s aren’t your team, so you lose either way I guess.
I know. And free or reduced lunch for kids is pure Stalinstarvationgulagdeathsquadpolpothitler.
thanks you made my day
I still love you happy, even when you make me crazy.
happy thanksgiving!
free or reduced lunch for kids . . .
are necessary to have alert kids in the afternoon who aren’t picking fights or crying.
Same to you! Are you going home or is Sis coming out?
You keep claiming that Republican’s aren’t your team, so you lose either way I guess.
– You might think that but we certainly do not. Statists by another name still smell like tyranny to us, so we’ll take it toward real conservatism the next time ’round.
– The best government is the least government – Bill Clinton.
– See, I don’t think the Hildebeast is a viable candidate for the Progressives. No wonder they don’t trust her.
– You have a small government, no chance for free shit. That blows for the meleniums.
> And free or reduced lunch for kids is pure Stalinstarvationgulagdeathsquadpolpothitler.<
Subsidiarity
And free or reduced lunch for kids is pure Stalinstarvationgulagdeathsquadpolpothitler.
And just think how many kids wouldn’t need school-supplied lunches if the government didn’t have to steal money from their classmates parents to pay for it (after a little administrative overhead, of course, because we gotta keep the new Federal building lit and guarded by men with guns, and let’s face it, those Congressmen aren’t going to bribe themselves!)…
those Congressmen aren’t going to bribe themselves!
It’s part of the scam that are Farm Subsidies (see nr’s link).
thanksgiving was canceled this year except for a lil get together tomorrow over in hollywood
I spent a lot on xmas already and then I had a nice time in Providence now I’m abjectly poor cause right when i got back the job sorta surprised us with a 401K plan and I had just enough time to get enrolled for the last 2 paychecks of this year so they let me set my contribution at 92%
which sucks but it lowers my taxes and that is one of the most solemn duties a pikachu must perform to the best of his ability, especially whilst fascism is ascendant in the land
anyway I’m a keep my head down for the rest of this year and try not to have any adventures
Stalin thought all his policies were essential too – fascist.
Let me take a moment to reiterate something – I’d be VERY in favor of 2/3 of my taxes going to the state, and 1/3 to the feds, rather than how it is now. I trust my Oregon government way more than the federal government, and I’d love to see red taker states have to own the consequences of their decisions.
> I’d love to see red taker states have to own the consequences of their decisions.<
too bad the blue states are the main enablers of this ponzi scheme.
> I’d be VERY in favor of 2/3 of my taxes going to the state, and 1/3 to the feds, <
we be looking for lower levels like: county, town to give away "free" stuff to the "poor"
I’m thinking that Steve hasn’t heard of Kurt Goedel.
@wiki
Gödel had confided in them that he had discovered an inconsistency in the U.S. Constitution, one that would allow the U.S. to become a dictatorship.
hmmm
Stalin thought all his policies were essential too
No, I never said that they were essential. Lunch is essential. Free lunch, no.
However, the way it is structured now is unsustainable (you guys like sustainability, yes?) and if tax structures were revamped, the children could bring a lunch from home or purchase one from school.
Why are you so willing to surrender your earnings to the State?
Stupid html.
I’d love to see red taker states have to own the consequences of their decisions
Yeah, like Detroit.
http://i.imgur.com/sJcqclr.jpg
kurt g. should stick with math
He said about Islam: “I like Islam, it is consistent [or consequential] idea of religion and open-minded”
i’d like to see that piece of shit U.S. president guy let people drill the oils on the atlantic coast plus make pipelines and let people burn the coal for to make cheap electricities so poor people didn’t have such huge electric bills to where they needed the welfare
the welfares are the key mr. pikachu for the fascist state
“I’m thinking that Steve hasn’t heard of Kurt Goedel.”
Or Alan Turing. Or Werner Heisenberg. Or Edward Lorenz. Or, basically, any of the 20th century work that elucidated the limits of science.
Slaphead is what might be called a “sciencist”, not a scientist. “Science” (or his dull-witted conception of it) occupies the role that, say, a literal interpretation of Luke 10:19 occupies in the worldview of a snake-handling hillbilly preacher.
In Marx’s heyday, there was at least some hope that a scientifically planned economy/society might work. Newton’s clockwork universe still held sway at that time.
Slaphead has no such excuse, especially not given how many times it’s gone horribly wrong.
I see that Slaphead is still under the illusion that pieces of green paper are the same thing as real wealth, too.
Good luck with that.
Study after study (since these things began to be studied) have shown that tops, 5% of the population is incapable of taking care of themselves. The rest can be chalked up to poor decision making and its fall out that is often referred to as bad luck. So, being generous, 40% of the people on public assistance don’t need to be there.
Think of the tax savings!
” wanting to help 40 million people that have no health insurance ”
Too bad the number turned out to be deceptive bullshit (mostly made up of temporarily without insurance due to changing or losing job, people who won’t seek it because they don’t want it or are lillegal aliens who fear discovery) and and the solution has more people without insurance than the actual problem did.
I still want the justification of more than $4 Trillion spent to actually increase the number of poor* people in the US.
* – Poor people which have hot and cold running water, at least one telephone, a color TV, Internet access, at least one car and a free education, Not like the REAL poor of the world, which get by every day on less than what a Caramel Macchiatto(tm) costs. Not including tip.
” What do you mean? I’m typing comments on a blog. Isn’t that your plan for restoring the Republic? ”
No according to yesterday’s steve it was throwing organs into the street for people to fight over and a previous steve said it was congressional terrorism blowing up the world economy or something. You make up new dumb shit to stand in for “our plan” pretty regularly and I have no way of knowing which dust bunny trope or hint of shadow in the dark room you’ve fixated on at any given moment.
Heavens to marketroid! .
“the children could bring a lunch from home or purchase one from school. ”
Yeah. Except we could and did do that back in 1977 to. Amazing. We need radical new policies to take us back to Jimmy Carter technocractic advances or something.
It’s my fault. I mentioned Stupid Privilege, and five minutes later…
>In Marx’s heyday, there was at least some hope that a scientifically planned economy/society might work. Newton’s clockwork universe still held sway at that time.<
poincare and einstein kinda waylaid the proggs
Also states and towns and schools can’t make and sell lunch. It takes a federal village to pull that off. Because SCIENCE! Obviously mass starvation in schools have been ended by federal school lunch funding and program expansions.
Your only possible choices by the rules of leftist false dilemma theory lie between expanding the current federal school lunch program as recommended by teachers unions and the FDA or piles of little cracked bleached buzzard picked skulls lying at the feet of laughing fatcats with monocles, top hats, fur coats, aristocratic bearing, and long cigarette holders.
If you can’t see that, then are a violent proponent of slavery, a flat earther, and you live in a leaky wooden shack with a poster of Hitler on the wall, and are a product of incest. You were personally brainwashed by Ronald Reagan’s ventriloquist. Also you have a mix of Crisco and Pepsi instead of blood.
“Good idea. Get complacent. It’s yours man. It’s a lock. ”
I noticed you don’t link “who america hates” polls much lately. Hmm.
– It wasn’t Crisco they used in Last Tango in Paris.
– Well, you know, Steves “team” is scaling it back these days, what with Bumblefucks numbers going south faster than a prom dress in the back seat of a Chevy.
Coincidentally, 1977 was the year the Department of Education was discovered in the founding documents.
And here we are today, staring down the barrel of Common Core.
Spread: 15.1% today.
– Ok, now we know for sure. It was the servers.
I laughed my ass off when Hubs told me that earlier today.
The people who asked in the 70s “Why would anyone want a home computer?” are now in charge. What could go wrong?
Why is this prevaricating jackass still polluting this site? Jeff, something to be thankful for would be nice. Thanks in advance.
– BTW Steve-wax, you said you’re from Or-ee-gone. Last time I knew they had zero signups there. Lots of fuckups, no signups.
The People’s Republic of California is one of 404Care’s success stories. They’ve only had 1.1 million policies cancelled, and 50,000 signups! That’s positively a win for Obama at this point, only down 1.05 million.
But by all means let’s give these people total control of our lives. Your diet, your exercise regimen (“Let’s see a little more effort on those deep knee bends, Comrade Winston!”), your driving habits, anything that may cost the State extra money when you are no longer productive…
But that little pill on your 70th birthday is sure to be a lot more pleasant than being placed on an ice floe, if not quite as honest.
> a lot more pleasant than being placed on an ice floe, if not quite as honest.<
VIDEO: Unusual ice circle discovered in Sheyenne River
beautiful
Unusual Ice: Circle sounds like a the debut album of a techno jazz group. Search your feelings. You know it too be true.
too-> to
Hmmm. ‘Thin Privilege” sounds like a whiny alternative group with a girl singer who was put into the band by their agent back when they quit being a punk/rap trio who couldn’t get gigs..
“I see that Slaphead is still under the illusion that pieces of green paper are the same thing as real wealth, too.”
Do you really mean that making more copies of a map doesn’t actually create more copies of the territory that the map represents?
I’m shocked! Shocked, I say!
I wouldn’t mind selling all those maps, though…
We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn’t know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see a universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws, but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations.
The harmony of natural law…reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.
-Einstein
The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn’t know what it is.
Obviously they were all just the result of random letters floating around the universe, and “just happening” to bump into other letters, and after a few of them got together and realized that they could form a word, the books just started writing themselves, as the paper coalesces from sawdust floating around, and clumping together into flat sheets.
Because no one could POSSIBLY know all the stuff in all these books, there can (of course) be no chance that an Author could exist.
QED
Pot. Brass kettle. Black.
It’s funny that hellomynameisfakeandIvebeenassignedtotrollthissite can’t be bothered to look up what people like me really think — particularly on a blog, where opinions on all matters of things are free for perusal.
For instance, here.
Happy Thanksgiving, Jeff!
Do you even read the site before you comment?
I spend more time criticizing Republicans here than I do Obama. Because we here knew Obama was a Marxist tranformationist posing as a pragmatist. What’s becoming more clear is how many of the GOP lifers dig his style — and the TEA Party is a reaction to that every bit as much as it is a reaction to Obama.
I believe Dog Vomit has too many sites to spread his talking points on to bother customizing his shtick for any particular one.
It’s a collectivist mindset. Dog likely can’t even intellectually grasp the concept of principle over party.
But he does add corn for texture.
“Can God make a weight so large He can’t lift it?”
The answer to that question is “no”. God cannot do what is impossible to do. That’s the definition of impossible? Can God divide an integer by zero?
Rabbi Moshe Chaim Luzatto, aka the Ramchal, posed a series of questions. Can God destroy Himself? Can God make another god just like himself? Can God take physical form? The answer is that God is restricted by His nature to be God. If He could destroy Himself, make another being like Himself, or become subject to the physical world, he would not be an omnipotent, perfect being.
There actually is something even an omnipotent being cannot affect:
Free will.
If you tamper with that in any way, it’s no longer free will.
Though I guess some insecure atheists come up with more childish analogies (…and the oh-so-clever IPU) to display their insecurities via the appeal to ridicule fallacy.