October 31, 2013

“Debunking the Debunkers: Yes, Obamacare Rate Shock is Real”

But then, that’s only a problem because the great unwashed don’t know what’s best for them.  That’s Obama‘s job.

No, really. It’s right there in the Constitution — or at least, it would be, were the old racist thing not such a flawed document, written by withered white men who knew little about sacrifice or creating a sense of community.

 

Posted by Jeff G. @ 11:59am
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  1. Someone should write a “Hide The Decline” anthem for these goofs to sing.

  2. You know, my old individual plan, that I bought after searching around and listening to who knows how many agents who knew nothing about health insurance for who knows how many hours before finding one that fit my needs and my families needs and most importantly, pocketbook, was cancelled…

    But that’s because, it was terrible. I mean, what if at some point I wanted to have a sex change? I would have had to pay for it myself! Now I have a co-pay for my fake boobs and hormone shots. Not to mention the fact that it didn’t cover contraception. I mean, I may already have had my wires snipped, but if my wife’s screwing around, she’ll need to get back on the pill. And she probably will have too, now that I have access to my own pair of tits. Infant care? covered! When I finally get my test-tube baby.

    I’m so goddam tired, I think i’ll give up. Like Donald Sutherland at the end of Body Snatchers, all you’ll hear rom me is a hissing wail of bullshit talking points and excuses.

    Eventually we’ll have to clean up, repair what we can and realize that some things we liked, needed and cared for are gone forever, but that’s what normally happens when you leave college kids in charge of the shop for a long weekend. The infuriating thing will be listening to the stories about how much fun and how cool it was while we were gone.

  3. Oh wait, I forgot they’ve already got an Anthem. And a stirring bit of business it is, too.

    Apologies.

  4. Of course, if we had news media with a passing interest in such things, we’d have a story wondering why the doubling of medical costs in the form of premiums and deductibles for 100 million individually insured citizens (excluding those whose insurance comes from employers who are also suffering large increases across the board) was necessary to bring only 30 million or so new people into the system.

  5. So when the House ended the payroll tax holiday, Papa Jugears started a whole fucking Twitter campaign about how unfair it was to deny people their #40dollars:

    “Opponents of the payroll tax cut dismiss its impact by insisting $40 isn’t a lot of money,” David Plouffe, a senior White House adviser wrote in an email to supporters, “but that’s not the case for many families who are already working hard to make ends meet. Forty dollars buys a tank of gas or a fridge and pantry full of groceries. It covers a water bill or the cost of a prescription.”

    Today, we’re told that people whose insurance is going up by “only $40 a month!” should be happy that they’re getting such a good deal. “You can go to the doctor as many times as you like, instead of just twice a year!”

    Guess what, dipshit? I only go to the doctor about once every three or four years, so the old plan was already more than twice as much coverage as I want. In what world does it make sense for me to waste my hard-earned beer money on doctor’s visits I don’t want to make?

    Hangin’s too good for these assholes. I’m a generous guy, though, so I’d still be willing to help build the scaffold.

    DEATH THREAT!

  6. With so many people going for Medicaid/Medicare someone might kind of wonder why the just didn’t just expand those programs to begin with. It may have been expensive but, at least it would not have torn the country apart.

  7. I’m sticking to my original position that your health care isn’t my responsibility and vice versa.

  8. Forty dollars buys a tank of gas

    There was a time when I could have filled my tank with $40 worth of gas, but it’s been a while.

  9. It may have been expensive but, at least it would not have torn the country apart.

    I think a legitimate argument could be made that the White House/Chicago Syndicate was counting on this to drive the country apart. Divide and conquer, right? What has them shitting their britches at the moment is that this little scheme is threatening to unite the country in a way the Syndicate never envisioned.

    And if you think this is fun, just wait ’til the one-year delay expires and everyone with company-provided insurance sees what happens when their plans are forced to comply with ObamaCare rules…

  10. With $40 you can buy some hose and a 5 gallon fuel container and steal your neighbors’ gas.

  11. Exactly the teaching of the ClownDisasterCare endsjustifymeans mash-up, bgbear, albeit with a potential for far more significantly dangerous consequences should the neighbor happen along.

  12. Of course, if we had news media with a passing interest in such things, we’d have a story wondering why the doubling of medical costs in the form of premiums and deductibles for 100 million individually insured citizens (excluding those whose insurance comes from employers who are also suffering large increases across the board) was necessary to bring only 30 million or so new people into the system.

    You’ve left out the best part, Sherm: Them 30 million poor, uninsured rubes? There will STILL be at least 30 million uninsured rubes ten years out from now. I want the Jugeared One and Harridan of the House Nancy Pelosi to explain THAT one.

  13. That’s right up there with defining “poor” as “lowest quintile of income”, then acting surprised when it continues to hover at about 20% of the population. “We just need to tax the rich more!”, because you make dwarfs taller by cutting everyone else off at the knees.

  14. Out of curiosity, I checked the rates my employer is paying for my wife and I. Since 2010, the cost of my policy has climbed about $275. Roughly 28% over the last 3 years.

    The rate hike should be astounding in the next 12 months or so.

  15. BGBear: Besty McCaughey argues in the video at the link that ‘Obamacare was designed to push many people into Medicaid…because it’s a single payer system’.

    http://therightscoop.com/betsy-mccaughey-obamacare-was-designed-to-push-many-people-into-medicaid-because-its-a-single-payer-system/

  16. Let us take note: if the greengrocer had been instructed to display the slogan “I am afraid and therefore unquestioningly obedient;’ he would not be nearly as indifferent to its semantics, even though the statement would reflect the truth. The greengrocer would be embarrassed and ashamed to put such an unequivocal statement of his own degradation in the shop window, and quite naturally so, for he is a human being and thus has a sense of his own dignity. To overcome this complication, his expression of loyalty must take the form of a sign which, at least on its textual surface, indicates a level of disinterested conviction. It must allow the greengrocer to say, “What’s wrong with the workers of the world uniting?” Thus the sign helps the greengrocer to conceal from himself the low foundations of his obedience, at the same time concealing the low foundations of power. It hides them behind the facade of something high. And that something is ideology.

    {8}Ideology is a specious way of relating to the world. It offers human beings the illusion of an identity, of dignity, and of morality while making it easier for them to part with them. As the repository of something suprapersonal and objective, it enables people to deceive their conscience and conceal their true position and their inglorious modus vivendi, both from the world and from themselves. It is a very pragmatic but, at the same time, an apparently dignified way of legitimizing what is above, below, and on either side. It is directed toward people and toward God. It is a veil behind which human beings can hide their own fallen existence, their trivialization, and their adaptation to the status quo. It is an excuse that everyone can use, from the greengrocer, who conceals his fear of losing his job behind an alleged interest in the unification of the workers of the world, to the highest functionary, whose interest in staying in power can be cloaked in phrases about service to the working class. The primary excusatory function of ideology, therefore, is to provide people, both as victims and pillars of the post-totalitarian system, with the illusion that the system is in harmony with the human order and the order of the universe. . . .

    {9}The post-totalitarian system touches people at every step, but it does so with its ideological gloves on. This is why life in the system is so thoroughly permeated with hypocrisy and lies: government by bureaucracy is called popular government; the working class is enslaved in the name of the working class; the complete degradation of the individual is presented as his ultimate liberation; depriving people of information is called making it available; the use of power to manipulate is called the public control of power, and the arbitrary abuse of power is called observing the legal code; the repression of culture is called its development; the expansion of imperial influence is presented as support for the oppressed; the lack of free expression becomes the highest form of freedom; farcical elections become the highest form of democracy; banning independent thought becomes the most scientific of world views; military occupation becomes fraternal assistance. Because the regime is captive to its own lies, it must falsify everything. It falsifies the past. It falsifies the present, and it falsifies the future. It falsifies statistics. It pretends not to possess an omnipotent and unprincipled police apparatus. It pretends to respect human rights. It pretends to persecute no one. It pretends to fear nothing. It pretends to pretend nothing.

    link

  17. I’m willing to believe that perhaps the President didn’t know the details, but to have the HHS Secretary go to Capitol Hill with the same “Sargent Schultz defense” is beyond reason. “Whatever” .. OMG
    There was no requirement by the text of the ACA to rollout healthcare.gov on Oct 1st, but somebody let it go online anyway, knowing it was “unstable.” They did the POTUS no favor.
    Then Obama goes into this defense blaming Mitt Romney and the Heritage Foundation for coming up with the idea. Mitt Romney did it a hell of a lot better than Team Obama. It looked like the boy who claimed his dog ate his homework, not the “Leader of the Free World.”
    The defense of the “if you like your insurance, you can keep it” is just an exercise in pure unadulterated prevarication. Blaming the insurance companies. Cue the boy who claimed his dog ate his homework, yet again.
    The childish reaction of this President is beyond partisan politics. The man is a failure, a lair, incompetent, and shows no ability to actually lead. Perhaps Democrats will feel the shame that Republicans felt with Richard Nixon, but I doubt it.

  18. Democrats feeling shame? Not going to happen, Neo. About the only thing they’d feel anything remotely resembling shame over is doing something that would cause their side to lose power.

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