People like Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Pete King, and a host of others — not to mention the majority of GOP opinion-drivers — seem downright giddy over what Pete King jubilantly Tweeted was a “defeat” of Ted Cruz.
Now, leaving aside the strange, offputting, petty, and rather myopic luxuriating being engaged in over the supposed defeat by Republican dinosaurs and entrenched neostatists of a man who, having been elected by the grass roots in defiance of the Roveans, has tapped into the rage felt by those not being represented by their government, either through elections or by way of legislation being imposed on us against our collective will, one wonders why, exactly, King invests such a premium on a defeat of Cruz rather than a defeat of Obama and the left, who have, if Schumer gets his way and is able to create legislation using the “McConnell Rule”, completely obviated the need for the people’s House by requiring a super majority to overturn Executive prerogative to raise the debt ceiling?
And of course, there’s no need to answer that. It was a rhetorical question.
Still, the DC bubble exists, there can be no doubt, and it remains powerful thanks to the Senate minority leader’s decision to save the House majority leader from the hostage takers in the GOP caucus, allowing for a “compromise” in which the GOP received nothing. Which the GOP has since used to cite its disfavor voters, blaming that disfavor on the fighters, not those who worked doggedly to make sure the fight to save us from highly unpopular legislation — the compromise would have postponed implementation to all, not just Obama’s cronies, and forced Congress to live without the 75% taxpayer subsidy that guarantees their Cadillac plan — failed.
This, you see, is GOP victory, because it was a supposed blow to the real enemy: the TEA Party and the constitutionalists, those who George Will and others would like you to believe disavow the Constitution by trying to use their majority position in the House to check spending.
Up is down. Black is white. Forget the whites of their eyes; fire once from distance and then retreat!
But was it really the victory the GOP establishment hopes you’ll believe it to be? From the Washington Times, “Forget Ronald Reagan, Republican candidates race to be the next Ted Cruz”:
The competition to be the next Ted Cruz is extremely hot within the Republican Party, where a number of emerging challengers are hoping to capitalize on the newest brand name in conservative politics.
In Kansas, Milton R. Wolf opened his fundraising pitch to supporters last week by asking them whether he could be the next Cruz candidate. In Mississippi, Chris McDaniel announced his campaign to unseat Sen. Thad Cochran last week and welcomed the comparison to Mr. Cruz, calling it “a compliment.”
Then there’s Ben Sasse, a university
president running for Nebraska’s U.S. Senate seat, who set state fundraising records by opposing Obamacare. He told the Lincoln Journal Star last week that he would have voted with Mr. Cruz to keep the government shut down last week, saying it was a better option than continuing to spend and run up debt.
[…]Online message boards are full of comments from tea party supporters calling for the ouster of Republican Party leaders, and vowing to support only those who espouse a tea party philosophy.
Mr. Cruz came from behind in polls to win the Republican nomination for Senate over a wealthy, establishment-backed candidate, then easily won the general election in 2012.
While attacked by most Democrats, many pundits and even some Republican leaders, Mr. Cruz is in the mainstream for rank-and-file Republican voters, according to Democracy Corps, a Democratic company run by James Carville and Stan Greenberg.
Polling at the height of the shutdown, Democracy Corps found that Mr. Cruz is wildly popular among tea party adherents and, while not necessarily well-known among evangelical Republicans, is popular among those who can identify him.
“Even as pundits label Cruz as ‘fringe,’ it is critical to remember that this is only true when talking about the national
Many of the groups that allied with Mr. Cruz in pushing to defund Obamacare now are backing candidates who seek to join him as reinforcements.
In Mississippi, Mr. McDaniel has won the backing of the Club for Growth, the Madison Project and the Senate Conservatives Fund in his bid to unseat Mr. Cochran, who voted for last week’s debt and spending deal. Mr. McDaniel told National Journal that he would “certainly consider that a compliment” to be called the next Ted Cruz.
The Senate Conservatives Fund announced Tuesday it was backing Mr. Sasse in Nebraska, and SCF and the Madison Project already have backed businessman Matt Bevin in his Kentucky primary challenge to Republicans’ Senate floor leader, Mitch McConnell.
[…]
[…] Democrats were salivating at the prospect of Republicans nominating Cruz-like candidates.
“Do the math. Trying to out-Cruz Ted Cruz may be a winning GOP primary strategy in the South, but for anywhere else, it means Majority Leader Harry Reid for a long time to come,” said Christy Setzer, a Democratic strategist and president of New Heights Communications.
Funny how Ms Setzer is merely parroting McConnell’s 2008 pronouncement that the “era of Reagan is over” and that the GOP risks becoming a “regional Party” should it not embrace the kind of one-party deal making evident now both in the “McConnell Rule” and with the scrapping of the Hastert Rule. Of course, McConnell was proven wrong by the 2010 elections — just as the “salivating” Democrats were proven wrong by the nomination of Ronald Reagan, a candidate they were, too, “salivating” over running against, only to lose to him in a pair of electoral landslides.
So don’t believe for a moment the establishment Rockefeller wing of the party doesn’t see this. After all, there’s a reason they’ve decided to try to put down the grass roots insurgency by putting corporatist candidates up against TEA Partiers in primaries in an effort to beat back constitutionalism at a time when they have no answers for decreasing the size and scope of government, even assuming they wanted to, which I no longer do.
The GOP is at war not with Obama and the progressives. They are at war with us. And that’s because they are committed to their own eternal strategy: a managerial role of a big central government while never fighting a battle you can’t win!
Obama has proven he has nothing but sneering contempt for the feckless GOP leadership. Who fears his “historical” presidency and the wrath of failing newspapers and network news shows more so than they do their own base. And so they’re simply doing what they always do: picking the easier of the battles and fighting doggedly for their continued control over a Party whose base they no longer care about nor represent.
They will win a few battles this way. But in the end, they will lose the war. How they do so is up to them.
and the elephant goes toot
Of course they’ll lose. It’s all they know.
Of course they’ll lose. It’s all they know.
Ah, but not before some of them “rat” and go over to the other side, probably the ones closest to retirement, would be my guess. After the way Specter was treated, I’m sure none of them would expect to run again.
I think Milton nailed the attitude long ago when he had Satan say, “Better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven.”
McConnell actually likes the idea of the GOP being a regional party, if the region is contained entirely within the D.C. Beltway.
take that wacko birds
McCain considering seeking reelection in 2016
I will gladly donate to whomever runs against John McCain, in lieu of a thin dime to any GOP ticket that he supports. Even to the Democrat.
When was it that Arlen Spectre crowed about how the Republicans were a moderate party –finally (or perhaps again) implied? Wasn’t that shortly before the GOP lost the House and the Senate in ’06?
Save some of that for whomever runs against McConnell
and Boehner too, I suppose.
(And the reason Democrat strategists like Christy Setzer are salivating isn’t because Conservatives are easier to beat or unelectable in the general. It’s because they know, just as we do, that moderate Republicans will vote Democrat instead of supporting the conservative, and conservatives will often stay home rather than support a moderate.)
Why do we need “the next Ted Cruz?” The first one has plenty of miles on him yet.
Save some of that for whomever runs against McConnell
matt bevin
and Boehner too, I suppose.
Eric Gurr
I don’t really give a shit what any Democrat or Architect believes about the short-term consequences of the civil war in the GOP. The simple fact is that there is currently no representation for classical liberals (or self-respecting Americans in general) in Congress, and if losing the House in 2014 is the price we pay for reforming (or replacing) our party such that we have a chance at rescuing the Republic before things get irredeemably fucked (if it’s not already too late) — that’s just fine!
Honestly, what’s the matter with letting the Dems run up another $4 trillion in 2014-2015, if it means we can install a proper opposition party in 2016? The alternative is letting the Dems run up another $3.5 trillion, and consigning our grandchildren to an economic collapse that makes the Peronistas look like competent stewards!
Why do we need “the next Ted Cruz?” The first one has plenty of miles on him yet.
I’m sure Ted wouldn’t mind sharing the load. It’s a lot harder to mock and marginalize a dozen Senators than it is just one.
sure why not
Steny Hoyer wants more money to fix Obamacare exchanges
– McOldfart seeking reelection in 2016….. Alzheimers sufferers every where rejoice!
This post was going so well and then a Democratic strategist is quoted. Man, talk about a sudden descent from sublime to ridiculous. If I’m reading tea party types right, they’ not listening to Democratic strategists. Democrat strategist would be the very last person to solicit an opinion, behind little girls, and feral kittens, and parrots.
cracks
Senate Democrat: On Second Thought, Let’s Delay Obamacare’s Enrollment Deadline
Watch for CBC-branded cufflinks in their next appearances.
… and John McCain is talking about running for POTUS in 2016. OMG
I’d rather have one of the other RINO’s before going back to McCain .. and I don’t want them either.
Team Obama Blew Enough Cash on O-Care Website to Pay Developer $200 an Hour for 5,000 Years
Those old sunzabitches in the Senate need to be frogmarched out of the capitol and sent to China on a slooooow, slow boat.
No, not voted out: escorted out, on general principles.
Who the hell do they think they are? Earls and Dukes?
Jeff wrote: So don’t believe for a moment the establishment Rockefeller wing of the party doesn’t see this….
But…but…Jeff!…according to Jonah Goldberg:
See! The couch-sitting-surrender-monkey hath spoken!
Dicentra wrote: Who the hell do they think they are? Earls and Dukes?
Why yes…yes they do – and perhaps this is as good a time as any to cleanse the royal ranks.
how about the communist
The RockefellerRepublicans?Shorter Tea Party: We’ll never win a majority of seats, so hope for collapse and be ready for action.
Why did we want to blow up the world economy with the debt limit? It wasn’t to defund Obamacare, it’s because blowing up the world economy *is it’s own reward*.
Liz Cheney: John McCain a communist
‘liberalRepublican’Why did we want to blow up the world economy with the debt limit?
ax your boy baracky
Death Panels Alive And Well In Canada And Coming Here
communists
Democrat Bob Beckel: “I Got a Call from Somebody at the White House…” After Criticizing O-Care (Video)
Obamacare’s Vermont Fail
The Green Mountain State has been ambitious in its efforts to get insurance for all. That’s admirable. Too bad it’s failing big time, writes Stuart Stevens.
proggtards
Dem Congressman Say Ted Cruz Joke About “Nigerian Email Scammers” Is Racist, Appeals To “Backward People” In Republican Party…
You’re too fucking stupid to talk to, steve. If you were any smarter you’d be Slim Pickens.
the communist
chicagowayWhite House meeting with insurance chiefs
steve did you sign up for the “awesome” plan?
Steven Hayward trots out the Federalist Papers.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/10/21/james-madison-would-know-who-todays-extremists-are-and-theyre-not-the-tea-party/
It wasn’t to defund Obamacare, it’s because blowing up the world economy *is it’s own reward*.
hellomynameissoros
Yeah, Slaphead, didja?
Better git in while the gittin’s good, my friend. The Honorable Gentlewoman from New Hampshire has already jumped ship, and it’d be a pure shame if you missed the chance to haul your sperm donees to Salem or Eugene (maybe Seattle) for treatment, the way the folks in New Hampshire have to do, should some of your congressional delegation follow suit.
The Power of Plastic Jesus Compels You! Call 1-800-F1U-CKYO today! Operators are standing by! 0bama says so!
Oh, wait: they’re not. The system is just hanging up on people, and if they do get through, it just gives them a recorded message telling them to go to the broken site.
It’s all right: 0bama has one of his pet political hacks on the job. Never mind that the dude’s never cut a line of code in his life — he’s a Top Man, I tell you. A. Top. Man.
Steveerrhoid is but a prancing, dancing spunk-swilling butt-monkey without the capacity to do much more than that.
Nothing spells “coding chops” like “former deputy White House budget director”. I’m surprised that Obama managed to pry him out of the clutches of Google, Apple, or Amazon.
He’s just civic-minded, I’m sure.
Major Kong at least had the capacity to fly a Buff. Seems to me that’s quite a few grades of intelligence higher than the interloping liar, for whom the next step up could well be closer to lemur.
When you’re a passenger in a car being driven by a maniac full speed toward a reinforced concrete wall, it’s crazy and extremist to do whatever it takes to stop him. For example, if you had to punch him or grab the wheel, I’d say don’t do it – it’s extremist. You’ll terrorize everyone in the vehicle. It’s terroristic. Don’t do it. Wait until the next time they choose drivers and try to choose a little bit more safety-conscious one.
I’m comfortable with having people who know better run things for me. I can probably do pretty well under such a system, though I might bellyache here and there when they are cruel to me or take too much of the harvest. I’m thinking, was something really so wrong with feudalism? Who wouldn’t want to let people of the caliber of Barack Obama handle everything? That’s what they want to do, it’s what they’re suited for, and people like me are suited to sit back and have an easier time of it that way. The whole liberty and unalienable rights thing is really geeky to me, and getting obsessed about it is extremist and crazy. You know what? The whole U.S. Constitution and Founding Fathers stuff strikes me as quaint but really a bunch of bullshit.
“hellomynameissoros”
Indeed. I actually saw some leftoid speculating (see what I did there?) that the Koch Brothers were behind the shutdown because they were selling U.S. securities short. Never mind that the Kochs got their money the old-fashioned way, by making stuff that people wanted to buy, while crashing national economies is exactly how Soros made all of his money.
I saw one of steve-o’s fellow Oreganos on teevee today and she said her premiums were going up over $600 a month with a $7000 deductible. She was also 40, married and two kids.
I’m not certain she was quite as well-heeled as our steve, though. Maybe why the premiums were so high, what with her being only a 99%er?
this valerie jarrett slut can suck a bag of obamacare victim dicks I think
obama’s new Man in Charge:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Zients
I don’t see anything there that suggests he has any qualifications to “lead” a project of this nature.
Maybe his spreadsheets are full of awesome charts and graphs created by his assistant, but that doesn’t make you a software development expert (except perhaps in the minds of a total computer illiterate).
But hey, Nelson Mandela came to his wedding!
I am I the only one thinking McDonough and “Insurance executives” meeting behind closed doors to “fix” Ocare is illegal?
I mean, like that matters, amirite?
i think it’s so groovy now this valerie jarett slut and a bag of obamacare victim dicks are finally gettin together i think it’s wonderful and how this valerie jarett slut and a bag of obamacare victim dicks are finally gettin together
REACH OUT IN THE DARKNESS AND YOU MAY FIND A FRIEND, LIL OBAMACARE VICTIMS*
i can’t stop dancin!
Nelson Mandela goes where the free food is
it’s a thing
don’t be afraid of love Valerie
don’t be afraid of love Valerie</i.
iranian and other "bombers" luv u
test
oh good i didn’t break the blog
“Shorter Tea Party: We’ll never win a majority of seats, so hope for collapse and be ready for action.”
Shorter steve: “Obama is a god and cannot fail and la la la la I cant hear you about how this is a clusterfuck and we were all warned …waaahhh!!1! “
-Nelson Mandela goes where the free food is
it’s a thing-
msnbc calls “racist” on that play
I’m beginning to think steve was not being truthful with us about his status with how “awesome” is the plan he has lined up for the Little Woman, the tykes and he.
Gosh, if that’s the case, what else has he tried to fool us about?
I got a letter saying my policy was cancelled because not up to snuff with the ACA.
Am I really going to complain and say that I know better than experts in the field who work in Washington DC? Really?! It’s time to quit the whole self-absorbed preference for this go-it-alone, rugged-individualist, liberty fetish and calm down. We need to cooperate with the federal experts in health insurance and do exactly what they say. So far all the tea party has is a couple of software bugs in the ACA website. It’s a good law. I’ve got my O-care and later my Medicare. Relax. They can handle your healthcare and they have figured out how to pay for it equitably so we don’t go broke like we did under Bush. All this screaming about the debt and deficit is driving me nuts. What fucking debt and deficit?! They’re paying for it or they will. We’ll all pay for it. Am I really going to pretend that I understand finances better than experts in the field in Washington?
I got a letter saying my policy was cancelled because not up to snuff with the ACA.
i am amish you?
Amish Get to Opt Out of Obamacare
eff u
>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.<
use only squid™ pitchforks when confronting john roberts
nr, I prefer to use tools that have the imprimatur of John Moses Browning, peace be unto his name.
Although pitchforks, torches and cudgels do have a certain historic flair too.
Ted Cruz is my Senator and I would vote for him again.
palaeomerus, I don’t think steveos heart is really into it this evening. After steveos tin god brought in his human speech props that, it turns out, don’t actually have insurance through the O!care web site, it makes it a bit hard for steveo to put any real passion into his O!care ramblings.
David, keep your eye on Mr. Cruz, because if there’s any sort of supplemental draft, I’m moving to take Ted for CA.
Not Amish, no, newrouter, but feeling a quite Christian suddenly.
– Wrong response yet again.
– The GOP, at least whats left of the true conservatives within it, should adapt a “Elliot Ness” approach. When the Dem demogoguerers start with the shit denouncing doesn’t do crap, and the drive-by mediots will studiously ignore such responses.
– What the Republicans should do is include nice big lists of all the Democrats that wer in the Klan, complete with Congressional positions, especially the grand Kleagers.
– You can bet your ass that would shut the Demfucks up in a heartbeat. The Cons just don’t know how to play this game right.
Fuck of a lot of good deep bowing to the king did TheClownDisaster with the Saud.
“The ingrates,” ClownDisaster’s probably muttering to himself right now, “There’s just no pleasin’ some autarchs.”
What makes it especially hard to argue against your win by losing brand of logic is that its the same argument the Republican wing of the D.C. Establishment/ruling class elite made and continues to make for not trying to thwart Obamacare in spite of their promise to do just that.
“Just get out of the way and let it fail,” they tell us.
“You get out of the way too,” I reply.
Tea Party: We love America. Not the current America, mind you, but an imaginary one that we hope to bring about through a somewhat violent revolution.
Oh, and rule of law too, except we will be right to ignore it when the time comes because the other side’s been ignoring it for the last 50 years.
Because of the debt, stupid.
The world economy is already blown up. It just doesn’t know it yet because idiot wastrels like yourself think this is a cakewalk instead of musical chairs.
Tea Party: We would destroy America to save it. To libtards and the ruling elite, that makes us dangerous extremists.
Not the current America, mind you,
Why not go back to the America we had before your progressive “Great Society” gutted it? The one before Unca Sugar usurped the role of the father in families, and making sure 14 year olds could have abortions without parental consent (while the school nurse wouldn’t be able to prescribe an aspirin)? When plain English, such as “shall not be infringed”, didn’t require Presidential approval.
Kicked God out of the schools and replaced Him with a 50% graduation rate and 75% out-of-wedlock births. Well done! {/sarc}
Tea Party: We want to lower taxes and cut spending back while stupid leftists rant about their utopia that has already failed in Europe several times. We want a contraction of the federal government that now wastes enough money to imperil our economy and the worlds economy. We would like to devolve many of the functions appropriated by the federal government often simply through regulatory fiat to the states and local governemtns.
Steve: I can’t understand your words due to my greatly reduced attention span and have made up some semi-0ffensive fantasy horse shit that I assume is going to seem coherent and relevant in the ol’ echoe chamber I call home, but my judgement is pretty weak, so who knows. Also I know dick about history but you don’t know that so let me tell you all about history… aren’t Chris Matthews, Ed Schultz, and Alan Grayson just awesome? Man they tell the best lies about people. And the stupids just eat it up! I wish the Occupy movement would come back.
a somewhat violent revolution.
No, those would be those Youths of Undetermined Ethnic Origins who don’t mind killing his neighbors because his Section 8 and welfare money isn’t coming through this month, and won’t hesitate at shooting people who live farther away. The trouble is because they will be shooting back.
Just remember who has the guns when you start talking revolution.
Steve: I don’t know shit about the Tea Party or what the democrats are doing right now, but here’s my best guess based on stuff I hear other jack offs posting online…derp!
Tea Party: Cut spending before it’s too late!
Steve: Greece is fine! Nothing to see here. LULZ, Portugal? Italy? Spain? Oh you wacky wingnuts and your wild rumors of doom…
Why would anyone need to “fundamentally transform” a way of life that has lasted longer than his entire family tree? Unless it’s to try something that has failed everywhere else it was tried, but HARDERFASTER, because Lucy will DEFINITELY hold that football steady THIS time…
Why do you hate your country, steve?
Still waiting for that insurance info for the doctors that don’t exist yet…
C’mon, steve, you don’t want to get caught in such an OBVIOUS lie, do you? You want to use much more subtle lies, like Obama was going to slash the deficit in half within his first term (instead of what really happened, which was him doubling our national debt in a single Presidency)
No Obama’s giving us something new* Drumwaster.
*that happens to have been officially set in motion back in 1848 before the #@#$ing civil war. What could be newer than that?
Hell, I might move to Texas so’s I can vote for him too!
Drum, I’ll add you to the list of people who will get to admit they’re wrong. FWIW, I’m now leaning towards Providence. We’ll probably go meet with them next week. Still seems to be better coverage than I currently have, for less, with a large provider network. I know, inconceivable!
palaeomerus, you guys have been predicting collapse for quite some time. Seems like it’s not happening fast enough, so you’re looking for Cruz to help it along. Also, I’m still waiting for the hyper-inflation that was definitely coming in 2012.
You guys hate (current) America. I don’t. But you’re the patriots.
This is shortbus’s current America, as Jeff reminded us just last week.
Personally, I think Barak Obama and Harry Reid are doing just fine destroying America, and don’t need any help from the tea party.
Also, I’m still waiting for the hyper-inflation that was definitely coming in 2012.
– It will happen when the bond market finally can no longer be sustained, and when it does you’ll hate yourself for the harm it wll do universally to the populace in general if you have any decency at all.
– God you progressives are so fucking naive.
Drum, I’ll add you to the list of people who will get to admit they’re wrong.
I’ve been invited to be on lots of those lists… Funny thing, though, it always turns out the same way. They never come back to admit that I was right after all. You’ve been invited to provide proof of all those claims, and you have refused every time. But according to you, we should just take your word for it.
Yeah, the world doesn’t work like that. Put up or shut up, Soros-boy.
You guys hate (current) America.
Because it is nothing like the Constitution that held us free and safe for quite a few decades. Your America is a tyranny, run by a Boy-King who doesn’t know what he’s doing, but he sure knows that America is a place sorely in need to being changed to fit a template that has repeatedly failed.
And he has violated the very oath of office that gives him any authority in the first place, aided by Useful Idiots like you, and a media that wouldn’t report it if he raped a nun in the middle of the Rose Garden.
Snipped. First Lie. Etc., etc…
Though it’s nice of you to utilize the prog troll tactic of prefacing your lies with “shorter” as a tip off. Thanks for your consideration.
Oh wait, you thought people would think you were being sincere? Muahahahaha….
Hm. Now that I read the comments, I guess stevie’s feeling a wee bit… desperate.
The constant repetition in the hopes that it will be believed seems to indicate it.
Poor baby, are your masters expressing disapproval with your effectiveness and you’re forced to spam whatever you can in the hopes that they will approve?
“hellomynameissteve says October 22, 2013 at 11:25 pm
Drum, I’ll add you to the list of people who will get to admit they’re wrong. ”
Okay, but who gives a damn Steve? Your lists are worthless empty bluff and transparently just more Steve(TM) brand bullshit, along with your made up summaries of what you want to pretend the tea party is saying, your ‘straight off the advocacy blog’ insurance knowledge, and pretty much everything else.
Such immature displays of nihilistic mendacity impress no one. You have exhibited the situational acumen of a game show audience member and all the personal charisma of a yam. Nobody here respects you, looks up to you, or sees any value in momentarily gaining your capricious approval. You have all the charm of a dried up cat turd sticking out of flowerbed sand.
Perhaps he thinks himself some sort of genius/mad scientist type who will show us icky evil doubters? “They called me crazy! Insane! WENDELL!!!”
Hm. Nope. Just another anonymous prog troll spilling bile on a site read by people he hates.
He’ll be replaced by another at some point and no one will really notice.
“palaeomerus, you guys have been predicting collapse for quite some time. Seems like it’s not happening fast enough, so you’re looking for Cruz to help it along. Also, I’m still waiting for the hyper-inflation that was definitely coming in 2012.”
Yeah well, I don’t know about that stuff Steve, but I’m still waiting for the stimulus to spur the economy, for unemployment to go back to around 5%, and for the raised taxes, and increased to lead to prosperity “like in the 50’s”, for a lowering of racial tensions in the US, etc.
Those were all great predictions your side made and still clings to Steve. Accurate? Reasonable? Not remotely, but still great all the same. Yay for yet more Carter-ism. Right? It feels like the second coming of the 70’s since you clueless one note idiots have been in charge. Except the debt it much much higher. Your solution? Gradually slow the projected rate of increase of annual spending. LOL!
Patrick, I think he thinks that life is a schoolyard, tone of voice is power, and that perception shapes reality. Only he thinks all that stuff literally and directly and takes it for granted. He is 100% gullible to the left and 100% hostile to the roght independent of what they have to say or have actually done. Thus he can laugh at us and thereby make us, in his personal frame of reference, ridiculous. He can put distorted or made up words in our mouths without challenge, because he won’t listen to any challenge. He can just wish us all to death because he thinks his side is popular…despite them not ever really telling him what they are doing or what their opponents are about. He’s a pure soul bless his funky little heart. He’s a big cherry sucker with a bubble-gum center.
I miss the days that Broomstick One called “the worst economy since Hoover” – when unemployment was at 5%, and deficits were still in the low nine-digit range.
Patrick, I think he thinks that life is a schoolyard, tone of voice is power, and that perception shapes reality.
…yet he’ll never perceive a brick wall to be intangible and swing his head into it.
None of them will.
I hate what the government is doing right now. That’s not hating America unless your definition for America is hating the speech and activities of the current government. As for wanting what’s best for America Steve has demonstrated a lack of expertise recognizing who’s doing what and the effects of the same. He sees an “unexpected” mess and presumes that any failure must have come from a lack of intensity of effort and funding or is the result of saboteurs. The theory is always sound because the theories come only from the careless intuition of the brightest, most highly educated, politically enlightened experts raised in safe perfect echo chambers.
Drumwaster, remember when John Kerry said we need a new Misery Index? That was in 2004 when it was still okay for Steve to hate America and want it to fail. :)
Yeah, and Dissent Is The Highest Form Of Protest. Until it isn’t “hip” any more because it’s a Democrat running things again, so it isn’t underage rape unless it’s “rape-rape” and trillion-dollar deficits are considered “not a penny available to be cut”, and Cowboy Poetry is one of those guaranteed Constitutional Rights and Harry Reid says, “As we look back in history, the Founding Fathers would be cringing to hear people talking about eliminating earmarks.”
…[and] Harry Reid says, “As we look back in history, the Founding Fathers would be cringing to hear people talking about eliminating earmarks.”
– Which, of course, is total bullshit like everything else in the Progressive Commiewood script. The founding fathers put the third fear above everything else, that of lobbyists and pandering/buying the legislature. The entire point of the Federalist papers in fact, and the exact means by which the Democrats aquire and maintain power if they can get away with it.
– Steve-hump may be waiting for inflation, I’m waiting for open season on Progressives.
– Oh, and btw Steve-hump, the fact that the press doesn’t report the economic conditions acurately and the Jug ears gestoppo lies about it, doesn’t make a fucking bit of difference to me when I go to the grocery store and have to pay anywhere from 20 to 60% more for the same items I did when Bumblefuck began to build his Golden Unicorn Utopia™.
Yeah well, I don’t know about that stuff Steve, but I’m still waiting for the stimulus to spur the economy, for unemployment to go back to around 5%, and for the raised taxes, and increased to lead to prosperity “like in the 50?s”, for a lowering of racial tensions in the US, etc.
– The ect being we were told we would we’d be out of Afghanistan as soon as he took office. Instead we’ve seen nothing but a war happy dude that puts Bush/Chaney to shame when it comes to killing/drones/war. So much so that:
– Apparently the “distractions strategy” didn’t impress everyone.
– Yet the hipocritical Left remains largely silent, carping only occasionally and under their breath, on an issue that they absolutely excoriated Bush for.
“We’ll probably go meet with them next week.”
You’ll probably go meet with them next week?
Uh-huh.
Do it, Slaphead! Prove us all wrong
You have to meet with them in person to sign up? Barky’s going to have a hard time making his 7 million enrollee nut that way, dontcha think?
“Drumwaster, remember when John Kerry said we need a new Misery Index?”
I remember when BHO said that raising the debt ceiling was unpatriotic.
Who wants to be the one to tell Slaphead that Providence is a bunch of God-bothering, woman-hating Catholics that does not believe in, nor pay for, abortions?
Oh, don’t be silly. He’ll blame Bush.
Besides, it’s never going to happen. You can create trillions upon trillions of dollars out of thin air and pump them into the economy without ever having an inflationary effect. It worked for the Weimar Republic, didn’t it? It worked for Zimbabwe, amirite?
Velocity? Never heard of it.
Recognizing that government is a necessary evil is quintessentially American. Love of government is not.
I accidentally landed on MSNBC the other night and they are still going with the meme that a good portion of us dislike Obama because he is black. They cannot conceive that we would dislike him because of his policies which we knew would fail before he ever enacted them.
Little Stevie Shitforbrains-Slaphead better get better at spewing his pablum, otherwise he’ll end up being declared an Unperson by his masters…and I’m sure we’d all hate to see that happen.
I thought Jim was on a roll, but palaeomerus took things to a whole ‘nother level.
It worked for the Weimar Republic
– Well, it depends on what the meaning of is, is.
– A colleague of mine I worked with for some years in Aerospace lived through the twenties in the Deutchland Utopia. He said that at one point near the end they were paing him with shoe boxes of Deutchmarks. A loaf of bread cost the equivalent of $125 dollars, a really good quality piece of Weinerschnitzle, $450 dollars, and he was telling the story in the 60’s, so you do the math. Hyper inflation basically will destroy the country as we know it if it happens, and we’ll have assholes like Steve-hump to thank for enabling the little tyrant.
– In such a situation a Progressives life won’t be worth a plug nickle. I think they’ll decide at some point the free loading wasn’t such a good idea.
Providence? Is that part of the Ocare exchanges steve keeps prattling about? You see, I don’t rightly know since he hasn’t shown us testable proof about comparison plans vis-à-vis his old insurance (with redacted personal info) and income verification. Visual aids are helpful when one is shooting from the lip. Just to keep us all sorted, as they say in the UK.
Speaking of the UK, success stories about the NHS would be useful here, too! I wonder if there are any?
The GOPers feel that they can treat the non-Democrats any way they feel like because, where they gonna go?
seriously, where you gonna go Tea? You can’t live without me! What you gonna do, take the kids? How you gonna live? With your mother? That woman loves me. How you gonna pay for your retirement? You gonna get a joooob or sumpthin? Who’s gonna pay you for anything? Besides, once you had this *grabs crotch* you know no one else is gonna do it for you. C’mon baby… come back in the house… c’mon… aaaaaaw I ain’t mad no more… c’mon… I just flew off the handle… I work haaaard for you baby… c’mon… that’s right.. I know you’re sorry… stop crying… NO CLEAN YOURSELF UP AND MAKE MY GODDAMN DINNER!
It’s really bad if you read that in McCain’s squeaky voice.
Providence is an insurance company that’s a) offering Zero Care in Oregon and b) is part of the Catholic health care system (i.e., no abortions). Slaphead said upthread it was the one he was considering.
Come on, Slaphead… you can do it! Don’t let North Dakota with their 14 measly enrollees beat out the Great State of Oregon!
http://www.inforum.com/event/article/id/416090/
– See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=51648#comment-1026566
I never get tired of being told I’m a Bad Person because I don’t approve of people stealing from me and support increasing such theft to ever-growing degrees. Do people like steveforbrains ever recognize that they are the ones mugging us in broad daylight, and then pistol-whipping us because we only have six bucks in our wallet?
But they mean well, Squid. Whereas you are a monster with your minding your own business and all. Why do you hate?
That’s what long pig will be going for, ya think? )
Not so fast, Protein Wisdom!
Since when do commentators here abbreviate other commentators’ handles? If I comment as “hellomynameisdicentra,” will responders address their replies to “dicentra?”
I didn’t think so!
So, play fair, guys…and leave the Steve brand alone. Hellomynameissteve is a prog fool or a planted foil. Call him out by the name (s)he chose for him(her)self and leave the rest of Stevedom out of it!
-S
Speaking of the UK, success stories about the NHS would be useful here, too! I wonder if there are any?
Well, they haven’t managed to kill me in 39 years of trying. That’s success.
Hey there, hellomynameisgooblegobble, what did the bank say when you told them you needed your credit limit raised so you could keep paying your bills?
That’s a success, SW. My guess is you avoid them like the plague.
Spies, I actually knew what Providence was. I was checking to see if hellomynameissteve (sorry about that, steveaz) did, too.
…what did the bank say when you told them you needed your credit limit raised so you could keep paying your bills?
If they don’t want to be publicly denounced as greedy corporate pigs, they’ll say YESSIR! right quick. Sure, sure, they’ll wriggle and mumble stuff like, “We have a fiduciary responsibility not to lend money that we know will never be paid back,” but we all know the real reason is that they are greedy monsters who hate brown people and want everybody to just starve to death, if the cold doesn’t get ’em first.
– What did they say. Well they didn’t actually say it out loud, but they heavily implied that I’d have to wait until the next round of bailouts for a time when they would advertise loans they had no intention of making.
– you’re welcome.
Ya’ll see the headline that has Sen. John Cornyn calling for unity (with himandhis, natch)?
We can surmise he thinks “I won” (and Steve Lonegan lost), right along the same lines as TheClownDisaster, so now’s the time for ya’ll dissenters to sit down and shut up.
If that’s so (that he’s thinkin’ that way), then he makes the case he doesn’t understand Americans very well.
– Because when you are a high level staffer in the Bumblefuck gestoppo your career has the shelf life of a Krispy Kreem donut.
John McCain came close to abandoning the GOP in 2001. Only he did, but the GOP just didn’t notice. Or didn’t care.
That’s a success, SW. My guess is you avoid them like the plague.
If I can’t stop the bleeding or twist the limb back the right way, I admit defeat and risk MRSA and go see them.
….and in related news, the drive bye media wants you to know that as of today bumblefucks record is clear of any responsibility as he is ready to enter year six and no one has as yet discovered a single event that has occured during his rein as king that he is responsible for.
– Offcials at the Guiness book of records state there “is little chance that Obama’s record of non-responsibility will ever be matched”.
very true, serr8d. If Jim Jeffords hadn’t beaten him to the punch, ol’ Mav would have switched parties in an instant. I think the only thing holding him back was that he would never again get to run for President, because what Dems would vote for a guy that had once been a Republican, and what Republican would vote for a Democrat that had stabbed his party in the back.
I don’t even think Meghan would have been able to pull that particular lever.
SBP, you’re spending an awful amount of time proving you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
http://oregon.providence.org/patients/Pages/default.aspx
Good god Jim, check out the size of that non-existent medical center 4 blocks from my house.
https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=providence%2C+portland%2C+or&data=!1m4!1m3!1d3658!2d-122.6125474!3d45.5279283!4m10!1m9!4m8!1m3!1d66389!2d-121.9675525!3d37.3708905!3m2!1i1742!2i1005!4f13.1
SBP, I’d do you a solid and encourage you to stop embarrassing yourself, but I honestly can’t wait to see what you say next.
McGehee – for that question you keep asking, what did Ronald Reagan say when you asked him?
I live just a few blocks from a huge hospital, too, but that doesn’t mean that anyone there will be taking 404Care.
And all these people you keep claiming are wrong? You have yet to actually PROVE that they are wrong, and your unsupported word won’t do it, since you have been caught in multiple lies to date. I realize that you don’t pay attention to little things like Obama pissing in your face while telling you it’s the gentle spring rain, but the rest of us aren’t water game fanboiz like you and your sperm donees.
You have any actual facts that back up your lies? Or shall we just keep making fun of your epileptic flailing?
Put up or shut up. (See also “burden of proof”)
what did Ronald Reagan say when you asked him?
Bumbles will have literally (yes, I mean LITERALLY) doubled the national debt in six years. You think he will suddenly turn around and start cutting spending at that point?
Yes, Drum, that Providence medical center had doctors that will take providence insurance. Since you don’t believe me, why don’t you look through the plans on their site, or better yet, pick up the phone and call them. Unless you think they’re just going to lie to you too.
Your claims are not valid, liar. Put up or shut up.
Oh, and we are not here to do your homework. You have made claims that you have yet to actually prove. If you cannot prove your claims, they will be dismissed in the face of overwhelming opposing evidence.
That’s how science works.
Drum, the deficit is shrinking. Fast. You actually know that, right?
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2013/08/update-shrinking-deficit.html
Or is that news to you?
Evidence!
https://healthplans.providence.org/shop-insurance/compare-health-plans/Pages/default.aspx
Quick, Drum, gouge out your eyes and wave your arms over your head saying, “I HAVEN’T SEEN ANYTHING!!!”
So drum, from the web sites of actual insurers (you know, not Newsmax), where’s your overwhelming evidence?
You DO know that the CBO expects the national debt to be $20 trillion before Bumbles gets kicked out of the public housing he is currently #Occupying?
What was it when he was sworn in again?
Still waiting for your proof, btw. You weren’t just making stuff up again, were you?
It isn’t my claim that I got insurance, dumbass. It was yours. You are still lacking any evidence to back up your lies.
Oh, one more thing, dipshit, there’s no “proof” in science – only math. Words matter. Who knew?
Yes, Drum, you caught me. I “made up” healthplans.providence.org. I actually own the domain. You can check the whois data. I was hoping you wouldn’t catch me. I spent a long time getting the page to look just right.
Quick question: Are you too dumb to fuck?
Words matter? Like “tax” and “you can keep your insurance” and “everyone’s rates will go down”?
Or is it only “we have to pass the bill before we find out what’s in it”?
Yes, Drum, you caught me.
And if I were to provide evidence that proves that there is life on the moon, would that make any difference to an assertion that I had gone without a spaceship?
You made certain claims about your own experience. You have been caught in multiple lies. And your link does not provide any support to your lies.
Still waiting, Slappy…
For the record, I haven’t been caught in a single lie. I know you like to assert falsehoods until they become a factual basis to support future statements. Now it’s your turn to provide evidence, asshole.
No, that’s true. It wasn’t just a single lie. I DID use the word “multiple” for a reason.
Words matter.
Waiting for my list of lies…
Those claims that you ALREADY HAVE INSURANCE, and all the subsequent details.
You have yet to prove any of that. I don’t doubt that there is an insurance company that would be happy to take your money, but you have yet to prove that you have managed to successfully sign up.
Your turn, liar.
Quotes / links to my actual statements, and what’s inaccurate about them, please.
Forgotten what you wrote already? Again, I’m not here to do your homework. Just accept that you’ve been caught.
No, but apparently you have. Go find one lie of mine. That’s your job since you’re making the accusation that I’m a liar.
Tick-tock. Hasn’t Soros issued the talking point du jour yet?
Hey guys, remember when the Democrat FACT O’ The DAY was that the deficit was exactly the size of Bush’s tax cuts and we’d balance the budget in NO TIME if we bit our lip and eliminated them? That was a Barney Frank joint as I recall. How’d that work out for you MNISteve?
“Waiting for my list of lies…”
No you aren’t. They are right here in this thread.
“Oh, one more thing, dipshit, there’s no “proof” in science – only math. ”
Said the idiot…
“For the record, I haven’t been caught in a single lie.”
He lied…
hellomynameissteve has a bad case of the tiger blood.
Pente! I win! Vertical!
Remember when Democrats were all shrieky about the Bush-era deficits and unemployment?
Crickets, now.
Drum/palaeo, you’ve been caught multiple times molesting children. Prove me wrong. I’m not doing your homework for you. Just accept that you’re a child molester.
See how that works.
SBP’s actually been caught lying. He said Providence isn’t in Oregon. Maybe you’re thinking of him. Although I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he made an honest mistake. I guess that just makes me a better person.
. . . and the pig likes it!
“Drum/palaeo, you’ve been caught multiple times molesting children.”
Don’t be even stupider than you already are Steve. You’d walk into train tunnels and drown in the rain and stuff.
Anybody who doesn’t know the difference between the deficit and the debt isn’t worth talking too.
Anybody who thinks shrinking the deficit is the same thing as reducing the debt can only be pointed to and laughed at.
Anyone who doesn’t know that eliminating the deficit is a pre-requisite to reducing the debt isn’t worth talking to.
http://www.cbo.gov/publication/44521
hellomynameissteve isn’t worth talking to.
Anyone can eliminate a predicted deficit. It’s the actual deficits that are a problem.
hellomynameiszippy, I asked Zombie Reagan about your comeback question. He said,
“It only took him two weeks to come up with that idiotic (and false) retort? And people say we zombies move slow!”
Stevereeno can’t figure out why McDonald’s keeps declining his happy meal charge to his maxed-out credit card.
After all, he just made his $25 minimum payment on his $5000 balance. That should have freed up at least $5, don’t you think?
Greedy banks, they just want you to starve!
hellomynameissteve says:
Drum, the deficit is shrinking. Fast. You actually know that, right?
You do know that the link you provided talks about the deficit shrinking as a percentage of the GDP, and on a monthly basis, right? So if the government spends 50 billion more than they take in for two months in a row, but the economy (GDP) grows from one month to the next, the “deficit” as they report it will have shrunk, but the debt still grew at the same rate (the point Drumwasher was making).
You are misinformed. Good day, Sir!
hellomynameissteve isn’t worth talking to.
I like to torture stink bugs before I squash them, too.
So, here we go:
Year Revenue (b) %increase
2007 2,568.0 6.7
2008 2,524.0 -1.7
2009 2,105.0 -16.6
2010 2,162.7 2.7
2011 2,303.5 6.5
2012 2,450.2 6.4
2013 estimate 2,712.0 10.7
2014 estimate 3,033.6 11.9
2015 estimate 3,331.7 9.8
2016 estimate 3,561.5 6.9
2017 estimate 3,760.5 5.6
2018 estimate 3,974.0 5.7
There you have it. All you have to do is project faster sustained revenue growth than we have seen in any 3- or 4-year period in the last couple of decades, and all will be well. Plus, predict tepid growth in spending during the implementation of a far-reaching bill that few people on the planet have read and understood.
And even if you eliminated the deficit, the debt would continue to grow. So we have here an example of not knowing the distinction between necessary and sufficient causality.
It’s news to me. U.S. debt jumps a record $328 billion — tops $17 trillion for first time
In. One. Day.
Also: predict sustained GDP growth at the 5% level or larger.
It’s almost as if a complete Recovery was baked in.
No. Quite the opposite. He said:
That’s the second time in a couple of days you’ve completely misrepresented something another commenter has said. Are you a complete fucking moron, or do you just need to be shown the door?
BTW, Providence is in Rhode Island. Derp.
The MATH is weak in this one.
That’s the second time in a couple of days you’ve completely misrepresented something another commenter has said. Are you a complete fucking moron, or do you just need to be shown the door?
Not to split hairs, Pablo, but he has misrepresented many statements (mine included) by a number of posters to fit the narrative in his pinhead.
That said, I agree that he has shown himself to be unable to argue in good faith, has no command of his selected subject matter, obfuscates or completely ignores requests for clarification and refused to provide proofs when he was the one who first stipulated proofs into the topic. Further, when challenged to provide said proofs, insists that others go first. Ah, no. You don’t get to set up flimsy rules and then decide you don’t like them after starting the game. (cf, Obamacare carve-outs).
Quite frankly, it’s obvious that he was never a member of debate club in high school.
Are you a complete fucking moron, or do you just need to be shown the door?
These are not mutually exclusive, are they? Besides, even if you showed him the door, he probably wouldn’t go through it.
Damn well put, Leigh.
High praise, Mr. B. Thank you.
“He said Providence isn’t in Oregon.”
Liar.
Jeff, if you’re still taking input on this, my personal opinion is that this incarnation of Slaphead has run his course.
“So, play fair, guys…and leave the Steve brand alone”
I’ve been calling him Slaphead, since it’s pretty clear he’s the same idiot who used to comment as “slipperyslope”.
Hahaha – Pablo, what, you think “Zero Care” is the name of a health plan or something.
Leigh – is this the part where you beg Jeff to ban me or something.
I’ve asserted two things:
1. I’ll be able to get health insurance for less than I’m currently paying.
2. It will be good insurance with a wide range of doctors.
Now, I’m paying more than $1400/monnth for my current plan. Previously, I provided a link to it. There should be very little doubt that the plan actually exists in Portland Oregon unless you think the Web site is a fabrication. You doubt that I actually have this plan and label me a liar for not proving it to your satisfaction. So be it. That doesn’t in any way affect the truth of the statement.
I have also linked to plans that I’m considering. Originally, I was looking at HealthNet, and am now leaning towards Providence. I have also provided links showing that such plans exist. Those plans also describe their provider networks. I plan to go in next week and meet with them. I have until Mid-Dec to enroll so that I have different insurance that will be active on Jan 1. That’s plenty fine. My current insurance is good through the end of Dec, after all, so there will be no lapse in coverage.
Despite all of this, you simply label me a liar, and shout, “Go get it TODAY!”, like your fucking timeline for my insurance means shit.
When I enroll in a new plan, you’ll be the first to know the specifics. So far, your only response has been to assert that none of this can be so. That this all “has” to be a lie.
That’s where this discussion sits right now. I fail to see how any of this is me acting in bad faith.
. . . and the pig still likes it!
If I were going to start making assertions that I wanted to be taken at face value, I wouldn’t make a point of showing my ass at every opportunity.
It’s Jeff’s blog, slappy. If he wants to ban you, he will.
Me, I don’t do the begging thing. That’s more your team’s style.
I was raised to pay my own way to take responsibility for my words and actions.
If I paid $16,800/year for something, I’d sure want to use it. That’s a lot of wellness visits.
“Pablo, what, you think “Zero Care” is the name of a health plan or something”
Yes. Zero Care. Short for 0bamacare — Obama with a zero, which I (and many others) have been using for several years now. It’s one of those “play on words” thingies.
You’re not overly bright, are you, Slaphead?
“I’ve asserted two things”
No one gives a shit what you “assert”, knob.
I’m Czar of All the Russias. <– This is an assertion. It's also total bullshit.
Asserting things doesn’t make them so, Slappy. It makes you an Assertion Monkey.
You should find a link the Romanov family crest to go along with your assertion SBP, then it would smell of roses.
SBP, if I provide a link to a picture of a Cadillac CTS-V, it effectively proves I own the vehicle, right?
I’ll also be able to purchase the Cadillac CTS-V, new, for considerably less than the current sticker price. Although, I might just need a subsidy in order to bring the price under sticker. We’ll have to wait and see, once the technical issues get worked out.
Now, I’m paying more than $1400/monnth (sic) for my current plan
You’re getting hosed. No one with any sense carries that kind of coverage.
Let’s pretend that everything you say is true (c’mon, play along). You’d be better off to go with catastrophic health care coverage and just pay a giant deductible you keep in an earnest money account (where it earns interest while it waits for you to need it).
What do you think it is, nitwit? No, never mind. I couldn’t care less what you think.
This one gets thumbs down.
That depends on how you do the showing.
Leigh – maybe. My wife needed hip surgery a couple years back. It was nice to not have to fork out 30k on the spot. It’s been pretty important to us not have a lifetime maximum or other exclusions, so we’ve been going with Kaiser’s top of the line plan. We could assume more risk and get a cheaper plan from them, but (because of pre-existing conditions), we couldn’t switch out of Kaiser until now.
All plans have a lifetime maximum. If you or one of yours has a chronic and persistent condition that requires expensive lifesaving procedures, sooner or later you need to divest your holdings and go on Medicaid. I’ve had a number of friends who had children who were dying more slowly due to expensive in hospital procedures and lengthy stays (some never left the hospital) who had to resort to these drastic measures.
A hip surgery would be an in network expense that you would apply your deductible toward and your insurance provider would pick up the difference.
It could be that it effectively has a lifetime max. Thank god I’ve never had to find out. But it claims to not have one:
http://www.ehealthinsurance.com/health-insurance-companies/kaiser-oregon/benefit-detail/?health-plan=120
That was, at least, part of our rationale for paying so much. That shouldn’t be an issue on Jan 1, because, I believe, the ACA does away with lifetime limits.
The ACA claims to do everything. It’s like Mary Poppins: practically perfect in everyway..
Leigh, correct me if I’m wrong, but if we had gone with a catastrophic plan and banked the difference, it wouldn’t have covered hip surgery. Her life didn’t depend on it, she just preferred to not end up in a wheelchair and have chronic pain for the rest of her life.
You can apologize any time now, Slaphead.
I’m not saying that. If you had say $8-10K in an interest bearing account that you had designated as an escrow account for emergencies (you could even write it off on your taxes), then you would be in a position to bargain with the hospital and doctor as to costs, with the proviso that you would make up the difference had she had unexpected complications.
Hospitals and doctors are remarkably flexible when you have cash in hand. You would also not pay a penalty for early withdrawal with your bank because the account had a designate purpose. If you replenish that account with the monies you are giving to your insurance provider, essentially paying yourself, you will have recouped that money in less than 8 months.
Yes, SBP, when you said, “Providence is an insurance company that’s a) offering Zero Care in Oregon”, I thought Zero meant no,none,nada, not “Health”. You were too clever for me. My bad.
The ACA claims to do everything. It’s like Mary Poppins: practically perfect in everyway..
And just as realistic.
Well, Bamster has lost the Saudis, but things are looking up! He’s won over the crew at Westboro Baptist…
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/westboro-cult-leader-praises-obama-bashes-tea-party/
Birds of a feather, and all…
Zero -> 0 -> 0bama/zerobama->Obama Sorry you were too ignorant to grok the tea party slang chicken-head steve.
Tea Party (accually* is Steve): “Insert dumb “edgy”democrat talking points formed with with no knowledge of the actual tea party.”
* http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/25408860.jpg
Drumwaster, Fred Phelps is a democrat and has run for state office as a democrat. He was ALWAYS a democrat.
Oh, I know, I just like the timing.
Synchronicity and all…
You know how democrats are throwing around “the new KKK” a lot? Guess who the old (REAL) one was. Yeah, it was made up of democrats.
See, slipperyslope, that wasn’t so hard to apologize. Just think of it as your first baby steps towards possible rehabilitation. Now, how about some of those bona fides; I’ll make it easy:
1. My occupation is _________.
2. My level of education is __________.
3. I have a degree(s) in __________.
4. I earned my degree(s) at __________.
5. Here is somerthing you don’t know about me that might make me likeable __________.
Hence the neccessity of tarring the Republican Party with the racist label since Nixon; to make people forget.
I mean, how else do you pull off a switch like making white people fear “the negro” to making African Americans fear “white hispanics”?
hellomynameiscretin: You were too clever for me. My bad.
A slug is more clever, you tool.
Someday you make wake up and start smelling The Reality, and I hope you do. Otherwise, your fate will not be pretty, Clyde.
On second thought: I hope you never wake-up from you Nihilist Slumber and DIAF.
Wow. Worst spam link ever.
It was awfully nice of Strom Thurmond to magically cleanse the democrats of all its long history of racism wasn’t? He even cleaned up Robert Bird somehow. So very magical.
Spam link? What spam link? (heh)
hellomynameisslipperysteve appears to have retreated from the field. Probably at an appointment with a health insurer. With the Little Woman.