October 4, 2013

Holy moly! Barry-cades around the First Amendment rights of military personnel! [Darleen Click]

If you can’t find a crisis to use, manufacture one then use it to continue to force Christians from military service

In a stunning development, some military priests are facing arrest if they celebrate mass or practice their faith on military bases during the federal government shutdown.

“With the government shutdown, many [government service] and contract priests who minister to Catholics on military bases worldwide are not permitted to work – not even to volunteer,” wrote John Schlageter, the general counsel for the Archdiocese for the Military Services USA, in an op-ed this week. “During the shutdown, it is illegal for them to minister on base and they risk being arrested if they attempt to do so.”

According to its website, the Archdiocese for the Military Services “provides the Catholic Church’s full range of pastoral ministries and spiritual services to those in the United States Armed Forces.” [...]

Because of the lack of active-duty Catholic chaplains, the military relies on hiring civilian priests to serve as government service and contract ministers. Those civilian priests are not allowed on the bases during a shutdown, Schlageter wrote.

Obama’s directive to make people suffer will not end well.

Posted by Darleen @ 8:24pm
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  1. Would you expect to see large numbers of arrests due to protests of conscience? It’s not exactly the sort of thing one might predict, but certainly a circumstance that may call for principled action. Too, a widespread crack-down on ministers of faith fulfilling their calling can’t be an object of the MoronKing’s calculation, can it? In which possible view, the wider the persecution of a principled act of conscience, the worse the outcome for the tyrant.

  2. Problem sdferr is that the “social justice” priest might chain himself to the base wire fence to protest some global issue … but the priest whose main concern is ministering to the needs of the individual congregant is not going to engage in confrontation … they’ll look for other low-key non-conflict resolution no matter how inconvenient to the priest & parishioner.

  3. I don’t understand why an ordinary minister wouldn’t engage in direct confrontation? Heck, that’s what the job is about, isn’t it? Always has been, I thought. Jesus warn’t no pussy.

  4. A moment’s reflection on the MoronKing’s history of red-line drawing might even induce a few people to choose to pick up an easy win, given His InfallibleMajesty’s propensity for shooting off his mouth before figuring what his next step is going to do.

  5. Priests should be at the front line of civil disobedience in this case.

    I wonder if I can get a church appoint me a deacon so I can minister the troops?

  6. A friend sent me some pictures today of a priest celebrating the Mass in Afghanistan. I doubt he is afraid of Obama’s feckless wrath.

  7. > MoronKing’s history of red-line drawing <

    1 video is all it takes for the baracky. settled baseball pit7 stl 1.

  8. - More settled science:

    – Bumblefucks job approval, via Gallup = 41%

  9. I wonder if the guards at Leavenworth and Gitmo are being ordered to stand down?

  10. Settled baseball, fersur. And, home games a coming up!

  11. “This whole thing is about one thing, the Republican obsession with the Affordable Care Act. That seems to be the only thing that unites the Republican Party right now,” he said.

    Bull-shit.

  12. Right serr8d, the matter of DisasterCare is only the surface of the actual issue: Who rules in America? The people? Or the ClownDisasterKing.

    It isn’t a difficult thing to get, excepting that there are those who wish to conceal the issue, so that they will obtain exclusive power over their subjects.

  13. What was touted as ‘let’s get everyone insured!’ is but wealth redistribution, one of Marx’ goals. We’ve been pushed along this path for decades; slowly but surely, as jg so often pointed out ‘losing more slowly’. If there is to be a pendulum swing back, it’s going to need a lot of energy to successfully cross what was once center. There may be need to wear a helmet.

  14. the Republican obsession with the Affordable Care Act. That seems to be the only thing that unites the Republican Party right now,” he said.

    pushing a bs bill using “reconciliation” because you just lost ted kennedy’s “seat” will do that to an opposition but maybe not the rovesters. 1800 fu baracky

  15. It’s sad, because the future belongs to the kids. I fear for our kid’s future. We’ve seen so much good go bad within the last several decades, and it’s only getting worse.

    Socialism always fails, because it’s simply unsustainable. The trade-off between pure socialism and pure capitalism is what we had in the post-WWII era to recent times. That capitalism is suffering (resources diminishing, environmental legalities &c.) for now is expected; but we’ve high tech that was resultant of capitalism. What has socialism contributed to our lifestyle, and can Obama’s planned CHANGE sustain it? He’s already answered: no. We’ll have to turn down up our thermostats in winter, up in summer, give up our healthcare perks to equalize with have-nots both here and overseas.

    He’s pushing us down-scale, backwards in time. Will he push too hard, and there be a satisfying backlash? But, to borrow ‘their’ phraseology, will he push hard enough to pass a tipping point, and our backlash be damned? That’s the only question left, really. Will he fuck up in time to save us all, or our children?

  16. Obama mocked his opponents, said they were holding a gun to his head. And to the heads of the American people too.

    A really unfortunate image for a president from Chicago, the nation’s new murder capital, to draw so soon after the Navy Yard massacre. And the Kenyan mall deaths. And Thursday afternoon’s Capitol Hill shoot-up that saw the death of a young mother.

    He’s pushing buttons like a 5-year-old on a skyscraper’s elevator.

  17. od of socialist realism, according to which only
    the typical is real, and only what corresponds to the given ideal is
    typical, that is, whatever has the potential to grow towards the ideal.
    There is, for example, the ideal of socialist man. In our harsh reality,
    anyone who does not correspond to that ideal is atypical. Anyone
    who is atypical, and yet exists, is an ‘evil’ reality and has no place in
    real socialism. Anyone who is not a socialist man, therefore, can
    only be a residuum of the past, an agent of imperialism, a dissident.
    In any case, he or she is a foreign element. Because this foreign
    element is by definition outside real socialism, however, there are
    only proper socialist people in real socialism. What does it matter
    that we have to invent them and that the overwhelming majority of
    the nation is still foreign to real socialism? The essential thing is that
    the socialist man is typical of real socialism. Another of our ideals is
    that of free and creative work as one of the vital needs of socialist
    man. What does it matter that we guarantee this free work by
    making work compulsory, that its creative aspect, as far as most
    of the nation is concerned, is manifested in seeking ways to shirk
    it, that this foremost vital need is not pleasurable, but a necessary
    evil to earn a livelihood? The only typical and real work is socialist
    work.
    And so a real socialist man necessarily becomes a schizophrenic.
    As a practical politician he fights against the total pervasiveness of
    indifference, bribery, passivity, absenteeism, theft on the job and
    lack of principles, but as an ideologist he oozes enthusiasm over the
    typical aspects of socialist work, socialist commitment, socialist
    unselfishness and socialist integrity. As an ideologist, he is a socialist
    man, but as a practical politician he is given special treatment in the
    government hospital, and he does his shopping in special shops,
    lives in a special residential district and has his children chauffeured
    to school in official limousines.
    As an ideologist he has taken over and almost perfected an
    Orwellian language designed to cloud over the negative reality of
    real socialism and make it positive.

    page 158 potp havel et al

  18. “What was touted as ‘let’s get everyone insured!’ is but wealth redistribution, one of Marx’ goals”

    Yep, but only if you count the insurance companies.

    Sure, Obama’s minions think that they’re getting “free health care” (although I’ll bet there’s plenty of stunned disbelief at just how much that “free” care is going to cost them, now that the exchanges are live).

    What Obamacare actually means is a massive (and I mean massive) transfer of wealth from our pockets to those of the insurance companies.

    It must be nice to have everyone required to buy your product under penalty of law. Scummy, but nice.

    Racist tip of the day: if you mention the cost to an Obot, he or she is certain to mention the subsidies for poor people. That’s when you say something like “So… the government is giving money to insurance companies, who keep some of it and give a part of it to doctors. Why are the insurance companies involved in this transaction?”

    In my experience, this is a racist question.

  19. A tyrant behaving like a tyrant. Who knew?

  20. The exchanges are to funnel money to progressive activist groups for now and to also collect information on people which will be dumped into whatever Narwhal & Dreamcatcher have been renamed as for the upcoming election.

    The high pricing is because of the mandatory requirements that the Sec. of HHS has put on policies. The pricing will be blamed on the insurance companies while at the same time the government will squeeze their profit margins to drive ever more of them out of the market. This can result in one of two ends.

    The fascist one being that there will be only a couple of companies left and they will be completely under the thumb of the HHS bureaucracy. The socialist one is where all the companies are driven out of the market and the only policies you can get, and you are required to have one, are provided by the government.

    Just as we have, under the Progressives, a “living” Constitution, the text of which they rewrite as needs arise, so too we will have “living” health insurance, “living” exemptions, “living” subsidies, all law, all contracts, all relationships will be “living” ones.

    This is what life under those whose only “law” is “will to power” is and always shall be.

  21. You really want to know why Obamacare has taken the form that it has?

    http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=F09&cycle=2008&recipdetail=P&mem=N&sortorder=U

    That’s why.

  22. What Obamacare actually means is a massive (and I mean massive) transfer of wealth from our pockets to those of the insurance companies.

    Not necessarily — otherwise we would see Insurance companies rushing to the exchanges instead of exiting them.

    This is a massive transfer of power from the individual (and from companies) to The State. This is command & control fascism.

  23. And Thursday afternoon’s Capitol Hill shoot-up that saw the death of a young mother.

    That being Miriam (#TRAYVON!) Carey, an unarmed black mother-woman riddled with bullets by DC police. Where the fuck is the usual Black Grievance Industry Steering Committee? Paging Al Sharpton and Jessee Jackson, cleanup needed on the Capitol Mall!

  24. (Don’t tell me. That’s one of those base-clearing home run thingers, only conducted on ice, by fellows who like to figure skate. On ice. NTTAWWT. )

  25. If? There isn’t an if: he has half-sisters from both parents.

  26. What I’d like to know is just what the original event at the WH barricade at 15th St NW and E St. next to the Treasury building was about. I’ve seen these two accounts.

    The chase began when the woman driving a black sedan got involved in some kind of verbal altercation with officers at a security checkpoint a block from the White House, the intelligence source said.

    As police cars arrived at the scene, the vehicle sped away and led police on a wild chase that included running red lights, according to the source.

    Later it was changed to:

    The chase began when the Infiniti hit a barrier on the outer security perimeter of the White House, said Ed Donovan, a Secret Service spokesman. One of the responding officers was hit by the car as it left the scene, he said.

  27. Geoffb, don’t you reckon with me that there is very good cctv of the entire incident at the Treasury 15th st. location in the hands of law enforcement? Seen it? Nope. No where that I’ve heard of could we see it.

  28. “That being Miriam (#TRAYVON!) Carey, an unarmed black mother-woman riddled with bullets by DC police. Where the fuck is the usual Black Grievance Industry Steering Committee? Paging Al Sharpton and Jessee Jackson, cleanup needed on the Capitol Mall! ”

    Are you kidding? She attacked neo-God with a rich-man’s car. It’s a wonder that Connecticut isn’t being razed to the stones right now.

  29. Forget we much!

  30. Likely sdferr. The only reason we have seen what happened at the Garfield Circle is that someone videoed it from the Capital walkway back from the Circle.

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