Ours, if you can believe that. Albeit inadvertently, for sure.
To see how, try their ObamaCare subsidy calculator. In my case, I entered the required data as if my family didn’t have an employer-provided health care plan. And with those parameters, I found that, should we be forced into an exchange, our costs would increase over 100%. Which makes the 14.9% increase this year of our employer-provided plan seem downright generous.
But hey, universal is what matters. And “fairness.”
Because freedom.
I had similar results a few days ago, plus the fine print told me my out-of-pocket maximum, exclusive of premiums would double as well for crappier coverage, and I get to find new physicians. And don’t get me started on the “subsidies.” The cost of the premium before subsidies is what matters. Though, to be fair, Obama said he’d bend the cost curve. He didn’t say in which direction.
By the way: having an epic debate with Greg Sargent on Twitter. Will have to break for lunch soon, but it’s been edifying.
Which would be cool if I had any readers, or if anyone still cared.
The ghosts and the ancestor’s see your footsteps oh pilgrim. Your journey is worthy in their eyes.
I kinda took CNN correspondent Dana Bash’s comment about a suicide mission to Scott Rigell as moderately, if inadvertently helpful too — a ringing and true note to those of us who recognize in that song the same sentiment Bash’s Tory ancestors were singing to our patriot ancestors back in 1774 — since the question, then as now, is: who will rule?
The people of America, with their expectations of a life replete with the liberties and the rights of Englishmen? Or the tyranny of the authoritarian, happy to coerce his way to power and sway over all those, who like Bash, are willing to cede it to him?
Yankee Doodle came to town
A-riding on a pony
Stuck a feather in his cap
And called it hope and change.
The press corps are starting to mock Carney at the daily press briefings. Major Garrett laughed in his face.
If my employer were to do away with its coverage, my premiums would more than triple.
So.
And the pony? It was a fucking unicorn, dude.
…that’s according to NPR’s calculator, anyway. Which is bound to be…conservative?
Wait – NPR (and PBS?) is still running despite the government shutdown? And the website, too? I thought we were told that the federal funding was a a critical necessity….
/sarc
– I assume (silly me) that you’re aware the yank my doodle jingle was a purposely disguised protest song McGehee, so really – no joke….
– ….and to all the true believers out there, fuck you very much but they won’t be enforcing your hissy fit demands today Proggies.
If my employer drops my plan, my cost of coverage will only go up by %265. Couple that with the more than double out of pocket maximum and reduced percentage covered and I’m in hope and change nirvana. I swear that if I lose my health insurance, I simply won’t buy it until I need it. The fine is so much less than “coverage” and I can’t be turned down for the preexisting compound fracture.
I’m having a, umm, discussion about the clusterfuck that is O-care with a friend on FB. She’s got employer coverage right now, but costs are going up rapidly, healthcare will get rationed, decisions will be made my bureaucrats instead of her doctor and she’ll be forced to answer personal questions about her sex life/partners. But hey, someone else is paying for her $10/month birth control habit, so O-care makes her wet. Arguing with her has been a pointless exercise.
“Where did see that? You’re making it up.”
“I actually read the fucking document. And surprisingly, my reading comprehension is good.”
“I don’t believe you.”
“Have you read it?”
“I don’t need to. Because shut up.”
These people are out of their fucking minds. My greatest fear isn’t that leviathan is trying to suck us into its increasingly voracious maw. What I fear most is that a majority of people in this country are okay with bending over and taking it.
But hey, someone else is paying for her $10/month birth control habit, so O-care makes her wet. – P.T. Barnum saw this coming a long long time ago.
– The media goes all in for thier dear leader: Breitbart Liveblog.
“I don’t need to. Because shut up.”
Is this my SIL you’re talking to? This sounds exactly like her. If she starts calling you names next, I’ll know for sure.
I saw your Twitter thing. Good reading!
Here: https://twitter.com/proteinwisdom/status/385088216115597312
Is that where it starts, more or less?
here’s a baracky compromise
White House: Obama Would Veto Any More CRs That Don’t Fund Entire Government
– The AP helps the cause too with lying liars what lie.
Yeah, di, that’s where it starts.
Mr Sargent refused to try the calculator. It was kinda funny.
I tried the calculator and it didn’t work. I’d submit and it would just open a new, similar page.
Must be gubmit work.
– If you poll people on ObamaCare the majority are against it, but many of those same people are much more favorable about the Affordable care act.
– God save us from the low info voters.
God save us from the low info voters
truth in legislating act of 2013
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Here’s a short video of Krauthammer saying some semi-reasonable stuff… at least when compared to O’Reilly, who makes this thing feel inadequate, in terms of big tool-iness.
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don’t watch fox news no mo’ too semi proggtarded
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azEvfD4C6ow
The Bagger 288
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Here is a good example of why America v. 1.0 has failed: This morning at work, a temp filing in for my vacationing secretary (temp not quite morbidly obese, several children and marriage prospects not good): “Gee, Mr. [Red], why did “they” shut down the government? I mean, like, I’m not into politics, but, it’s sorta stupid.” Me: ” mumble, mumble, if 80% of the government was shut down, would you notice, mumble, mumble …”
America v. 2.0 needs a civics exam in order to vote.
“Which would be cool if I had any readers, or if anyone still cared.”
I assume there is a missing adjective to “readers” that I don’t satisfy.
Important? influential? famous? Connected?
Should I feel as inadequate as you, or more so?
Oh… more so of course, I don’t even have a blog!
Thanks for the affirmation big guy.
I live to please, lee. The fact is, this is a moribund site.
Just the truth. Can’t help but tell it.
The fact is, this is a moribund site.
the beckster noticed this morn that the nyt or some other mbm, was calling them furloughed/non furloughed instead of essential/non essential. then the beckster went into a rant about the proggtarded and language. so that and $5 and an armadillo will buy you watery coffee at starbucks. no guns please.
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old white peeps to the barricades
Veterans Plot To Expand Revolt Against Government Shutdown
They might tear down the barricades at the Lincoln Memorial next — and pee on the trees — to protest Washington dysfunction. “People here need to be thinking about serving their country and not their own sorry butts.”
“this is a moribund site”
In a moribund country, representing the views of a moribund philosophy, in a moribund world.
You know who cheers me up though? Ted Cruz. He reminds me of Reagan, in saying things that give me a little lift in an otherwise hopeless reality.
Today I heard him say “people say they want change in Washington, well this is what change looks like!”
Damn if it didn’t make me sit up and go “HELL’s YEAH!”
Then I remembered all the stupid mother fuckers that still think Obama is the cat’s meow, and the ignorant sons o bitches that think a cats meow is something worthy to be, and I fall back into despair.
oh, just ignore me, I’m depressed…
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oh, just ignore me, I’m depressed…
why victory is near. keep fighting.
LBascom, after depression comes acceptance. Or some such. I’m trying to work through my anger at my fellow Americans right now.
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Jeff, I don’t know from moribund, but I do know one always needs a place to rage against the blind stupidity of those who refuse to see.
my anger at my fellow Americans right now.
i have no anger at them. i have anger at the institutions that allowed this state of affairs. hello big media.
Don’t fret Jeff.
We few. We proud. We Outlaws are here rooting for you.
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I don’t know Blake, I think most of my depression is because of acceptance.
Acceptance that we live in a post constitutional banana republic. And newrouter, victory is nowhere near near. Victory is still way off when we see the end of public unions, the EPA and the Dept. of ED.
Victory is barely closer when the 17th amendment is repealed and congress meets for only 3 months a year.
Victory is only marginally closer when the budget is balanced and the national debt is down around 10% of GDP.
There will barely be a whiff of victory when there is TORT reform and justice is re-awakened in the courts across the land, with the removal of thousands of laws intended to intimidate, not edify.
We are so far from victory I will consider myself lucky to see a hint of the first step in my lifetime, and for such a glimmer of a hope I will fight…but please don’t blow smoke up my ass with that “victory is near” crap.
The fact that the establishment gave the task of
defending its positions to the usual political and journalistic hacks
was probably a case of Hobson’s choice in an emergency, but it
gained it nothing and was just one further error, since those gentlemen’s
standards are notorious. As could be expected, they immediately
brought into play against the Charter a whole set of slanders,
distortions, abuse, half-truths and absolute falsehoods which all
represent the dismal range of their capacity. Ispeak from experience
as one who has been a favourite target for their sort of behaviour for
the past thirty years, and who could well lay claim to the laurels of
seniority and worthy service. Though the powers that be may not
know it, or rather, would sooner not know it, nay, cannot afford to
know it (for where else would they find more obedient, unscrupulous
and servile creatures), the media are the principal, albeit
unintentional, creators and encouragers of opposition, since they
are totaJIy suspect and nobody believes them. People almost automatically
take for gospel the opposite of what the papers say. Once
all-powerful, the media were capable of pointing the finger that
condemned people to death. As they lost all credibility they also lost
some of their power, and at the very least were obliged to change
their methods, if not their ends. Nowadays, they do not directly fix
the noose around people’s necks, but they do endeavour to destroy
their honour and slay them with a hail of repeated slanders and lies,
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And newrouter, victory is nowhere near near.
see berlin wall 1986
nr, how many proggtards have shown up here, yet refused to accept any argument or fact that showed the hollowness of their world view?
LBascom, I’m expecting shooting to start when the EBT cards stop working. Or when the cops decide to arrest a 90 year old WWII vet for trying to see the WWII monument in Washington. Link.
“see berlin wall 1986”
Exactly! We celebrated, cheered, and patted ourselves on the back.
Then elected the fucking commies into the White House.
Sorry, I remain uninspired.
lee that “iron curtain” was quite shabby in 1985 when i passed through it.
Then elected the fucking commies into the White House.
passing proggtard gas at this point. kill theDiana West’s political infection at this point. commies crying like whorowitz. on to st. louis.
The commies didn’t come to DC until ’93, if you mean Big Dawg.
But, hey. Close enough for government work.
Don’t dis my man Horowitz.
I don’t know whether to expect shooting or not Blake. not in a meaningful way I mean. A large part of me expects vast amounts of ignorance born inertia of moribundness to stifle any spark of individual expression wherever it raises it’s silly head again. A land full of people barely able to lift their eyes from their own navel long enough to even notice if their master is wearing a suit, a robe or a red armband, much less care.
Damn but I’m depressed!
Don’t dis my man Horowitz.
why not he does commie stuff like :
>The fact that the establishment gave the task of
defending its positions to the usual political and journalistic hacks
was probably a case of Hobson’s choice in an emergency, but it
gained it nothing and was just one further error, since those gentlemen’s
standards are notorious. As could be expected, they immediately
brought into play against the Charter a whole set of slanders,
distortions, abuse, half-truths and absolute falsehoods which all
represent the dismal range of their capacity. Ispeak from experience
as one who has been a favourite target for their sort of behaviour for
the past thirty years,<
havel
davy says hi to di
The commies didn’t come to DC until ’93
hi alger hiss and hiss
He does no such thing. Horowitz has been Commie-busting since the 70’s.
West is a Janey come lately and isn’t revealing anything new, commits many errors and has her facts wrong. She reminds me of why we don’t belong to the John Birch Society: because they’re conspiracy theorists. Irrational even.
Not only that she’s a thin-skinned whiner.
I was assuming Bascom was talking about the Presidency since he was pining for Reaganesque.
“hi alger hiss”
Might want to give a shout out to Frank Marshall Davis too…
commits many errors and has her facts wrong.
please do name them with citation. or be like commie scum and assert.
>Not only that she’s a thin-skinned whiner.<
luv your factual discourse dear.
or honey or chick same disfunction
The Who Quadrophenia Full Album
ha ha ha
The Punk Meets the Godfather
PUNK:
You declared you would be three inches taller
You only became what we made you.
Thought you were chasing a destiny calling
You only earned what we gave you.
You fell and cried as our people were starving,
Now you know that we blame you.
You tried to walk on the trail we were carving,
Now you know that we framed you.
G.F.:
I’m the guy in the sky
Flying high Flashing eyes
No surprise I told lies
I’m the punk in the gutter
I’m the new president
But I grew and I bent
Don’t you know? don’t it show?
I’m the punk with the stutter.
My my my my my mmmm my my my.
GGGGG-g-g-g-g generation.
PUNK:
We tried to speak between lines of oration
You could only repeat what we told you.
Your axe belongs to a dying nation,
They don’t know that we own you.
You’re watching movies trying to find the feelers,
You only see what we show you.
We’re the slaves of the phony leaders
Breathe the air we have blown you.
link
– Shutdown, the first step in cutting off the Marxo-Socialists money train, and you can see the start of panic in their words.
Bell Boy! I got to keep running now.
Bell Boy! Keep my lip buttoned down.
Bell Boy! Carry this baggage out.
Bell Boy! Always running at someone’s heel.
You know how I feel, always running at someone’s heel.
Steely Dan Here At The Western World
“igBangHunter says October 1, 2013 at 11:33 pm
– Shutdown, the first step in cutting off the Marxo-Socialists money train, and you can see the start of panic in their words.”
I do wonder if maybe there aren’t guild navigators in the white house right now telling Obama that the Spice(TM) must flow and he risks living out the rest of his life in a pain amplifier.
And by spice they mean the conversion of public revenues to various official seeming forms of payola and walking around money.
Leigh wrote: Don’t fret Jeff.
We few. We proud. We Outlaws are here rooting for you.
I second the motion.
The fight has just begun.
[…] Wisdom commentator Physics Geek expresses a fear that I think many of us […]
Concerning “the Spice(TM).”
The modern Democratic Party could be viewed as being built around the principle that every vote, is a bought and paid for vote, paid for by, to the maximum extent possible, other peoples money. This has worked for them at least since the FDR times.
In 1994 there were a series of Democrat scandals where the general population got a peek at this principle in action and they lost the House. The Republicans, not understanding their exact role in this system, tried to run as if they were the New-Democrats. It didn’t work out so well for them and they lost out in 2006.
The establishment Republicans then came to realize what their place was in this. They are to be the side that attracts all those who want to stop the Democrat vote buying scheme, and to always, just barely, not be able to stop it. For this they get to partake of some of the table scraps from the Democratic Party feast. This was their role for most of the 20th century.
The problem with this whole system, the weak point, is the OPM that is the support for the entire edifice. The money has to come from, be generated by, some source which is outside the system itself. This outside source must be larger than the insiders system and not be able to or want to fight the theft.
Sometimes it is said that the Democrats resemble an organized crime syndicate. I think it is more that their Party through its big city machines came to see that organized crime was built in imitation of government not the other way around.
Obama, Pelosi, and Reid in the course of taking back control of “their” system of governance from the Republicans and ensuring that they never should actually lose it again have let loose a monster that may consume them along with all of us too.
To cement their power they raised the price they would pay for votes. The stimulus was the first shot and aimed at buying the votes in elections and of those in the lower levels of governments. These payments then became the new normal expected by their base. The second price inflation was during the Obamacare voting. Things like the “Cornhusker kickback” showed the higher levels of the Party that they too could now demand more, much more than before. Once these expectations are there they can only increase over time.
This is the real curve the Obama has bent. The vote-price curve has been setup to go hyperbolic. They are riding a monster that must eat up more and more OPM, but the more it eats the less OPM there is the next time. Not ending well.
These people are out of their fucking minds. My greatest fear isn’t that leviathan is trying to suck us into its increasingly voracious maw. What I fear most is that a majority of people in this country are okay with bending over and taking it.
Yup. Had an argument with a FB friend (from high school), and of course to her, insurance companies will not make money anymore, which is apparently a good thing. She pointed out to me that Aetna had made $499 million last year. When I pointed out that if you divide that over the 22 million members, it’s only $22.68 per member, she jumped subjects and talked about maximum benefit limits and pre-existing conditions.
I’m starting to think that this is just the natural order of things. A small percentage of people are smart and able to think logically; these people will always be the minority, and the human race will screw up everything it touches eventually.
I say let it all fall, and let’s see what happens.