April 30, 2013

“Native Americans incensed over pro-gun rights billboard in Colorado”

Me, I’m amused at their being incensed. But then, I tend not to let PC culture turn me into a ridiculous scold.

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Denver Post:

Two billboards in which images of Native Americans are used to make a gun rights argument are causing a stir with some residents who say the image is offensive and insensitive.

The billboards in this northern Colorado city show three men dressed in traditional Native American attire and the words “Turn in your arms. The government will take care of you.”

Matt Wells, an account executive with Lamar Advertising in Denver, said Monday a group of local residents purchased the space.

“They have asked to remain anonymous,” he said.

He also refused to disclose the cost, but said the billboards are only appearing in the Greeley area. Wells said he has not received any complaints so far.

“I think it’s a little bit extreme, of course, but I think people are really worried about their gun rights and what liberties are going to be taken away,” Wells told the Greeley Tribune (http://tinyurl.com/cdtkgj2).

Greeley resident Kerri Salazar, who is of Native American descent, said she was livid when she learned about it. She said she doesn’t have a problem with the gun rights message, but she’s offended the Native American people were singled out, apparently without their consent.

“I think we all get that (Second Amendment) message. What I don’t understand is how an organization can post something like that and not think about the ripple effect that it’s gonna have through the community,” she said.

Irene Vernon, a Colorado State University professor and chairwoman of the ethnic studies department, said the message on the billboard is taking a narrow view of a much more complicated history of the Native American plight. She said it’s not as if Native Americans just gave up their guns and wound up on reservations.

“It wasn’t just about our guns,” said Vernon, a Native American.

Maybe not. But it didn’t help.

As for being singled out without their consent, let me just remind the Native American community that they don’t own American history. Nor do I ever remember them complaining about singled out “without their consent” for being routinely depicted as wise reluctant warriors — stewards of the earth, one solitary tear at a time — who are pitted against profane, knuckle-dragging ultra violent whites bent on extermination.

So you take the good with the bad — and more importantly, if you really do, as you claim, understand the billboard’s message, then why feign outrage over a perceived slight you don’t believe was intended, but rather only exists in the realm of your own perceptions and the imagined perceptions of those hypothetical viewers you believe to be less adept than you at sussing out the meaning you’ve been able to suss with little trouble?

(h/t Guido and Terry H)

Posted by Jeff G. @ 2:37pm
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Comments (135)

  1. My response to their being offended is pretty much like George Carlin’s response to this hypersensitive world in which we live. I’ll paraphrase because I’m too lazy to look it up. He said: “I want to walk into N.O.W. headquarters and say ‘Which one of you honeys wants to cook me dinner and give me a blowjob?’”

    In truth, I rarely go out of my way to intentionally offend someone. However, if they pull the “I’m offended!!!!” nonsense on me, all bets are off. For the record, I can be pretty damned nasty when I want to be.

  2. native americans are just tragic I don’t know what to tell you

    we need to do something but not sure what

  3. “I think we all get that (Second Amendment) message. What I don’t understand is how an organization can post something like that and not think about the ripple effect that it’s gonna have through the community,”

    the 1st amend troubles her

  4. These broads are doing a fine job of making indigenous Americans look stupid.

    She said it’s not as if Native Americans just gave up their guns and wound up on reservations.

    *facepalm*

  5. i bury my heart at wounded knee. my brain i’m not sure.

  6. They object to the message because deep inside they know how true it is.

  7. beck’s wearing a sweater with the redskins logo tonite

  8. “One o’ you fellas ride back to town an’ get a shit-load of consent forms!”

  9. May I suggest that this campaign be carried nationally? Sometimes you could show the native Americans, other times you could show the Jews being rounded up, etc.

    All the right people would be offended.

  10. I’m pretty fuckin’ offended by people who want to disarm me and they *never* shut up because of my feelings.

  11. D.C. Council may push Washington Redskins into ‘Washington Redtails’

    What, was “Washington Overlords” already taken?

  12. What exactly is the proper process for getting the “consent of the Native American people”?

  13. As some one who is 1/16th Cherokee [and still waiting for my damn casino from the gummit], I am not offended by the truth.

    BTW: Though I wear a shirt and tie, I’m still a Redman deep inside.

  14. “consent of the Native American people”?

    ask lizzy warren

  15. Injuns I know are liking this billboard.

  16. newrouter says April 30, 2013 at 3:26 pm
    “consent of the Native American people”?
    ask lizzy warren

    For another viewpoint, we now go to actual Redskin Robert Griffin III.

  17. Dr. Vernon is the Department Chair of Ethnic Studies. Dr. Vernon specializes in Native American Studies, Multicultural Studies, and Theories of Ethnicity. Her intellectual interests and research include Native American health disparities, particularly HIV/AIDS.

    Dr. Vernon has written the definitive book Killing Us Quietly: Native Americans and HIV/AIDS, as well as other monographs, resource manuals, and articles. She has co-authored several articles with Dr. Thurman and one with Dr. Plested on HIV in Native communities. She is a tireless advocate for healthier Native communities and also authored the National Congress of American Indians resolution to recognize the first National Native HIV/AIDS Awareness Day, held March 21, 2007.

    Irene Vernon is of Mescalero-Apache, Yaqui, and Mexicana descent*

    ***

    there’s a pic at the link she has a big smile and looks sincere and kind of sweet

  18. ‘What exactly is the proper process for getting the “consent of the Native American people”?’

    Easy. Just ask the rich white liberals who have appointed themselves spokesmen, along with their token grievance-mongering flunkies.

  19. “ask lizzy warren”

    Also, Ward Churchill.

  20. “Native Americans and HIV/AIDS”

    she was trying to get on that gravy train

  21. updated “Native Americans and global warming HIV/AIDS

  22. they’re big huffers, Native Americans are

    that was my takeaway from the rest of that page where I found her pic

    dad taught me how to recognize the signs for how to know when you got a huffer on your hands

    poor huffers it’s a dark road they’re on

    a trail of tears

  23. She said it’s not as if Native Americans just gave up their guns and wound up on reservations.

    - Of course not. They resisted until they got Sitting Bulls consent sweetie. (twit)

    - I’ll bet any Injun who’s not a dyed in the wool Progressive nitwit is loving this ad for all sorts of reasons Leigh.

  24. While I don’t speak for Clan Gregor, I would applaud if someone used the 17th-century outlawing/disarming orders against my ancestors to fight gun control here and now.

    Trouble is, only MacGregor descendants would get the joke, which is that the ancestors didn’t comply and the government finally had to rescind the orders.

  25. As a Native American (Cherokee Tribe) who had relatives that walked the Trail of Tears, the Native Americans who are offended by this ad can go screw themselves.

    Far as I’m concerned, the message on the billboard is spot on and should be part of a national advertising campaign.

    (Okay, I’m not full blooded Cherokee, but Grandmother was. However, at least I can claim Native American ancestry, which is far more Fauxcahontas is entitled to)

  26. I’ll bet any Injun who’s not a dyed in the wool Progressive nitwit is loving this ad for all sorts of reasons Leigh.

    Got that right, BBH. They love sticking it to the Great White Father in DC.

  27. - This is one of the moments in the life of the “great narrative” where the Lefturds get bit on their ass by their own identity politics, and they get highly agitated and confused when that happens.

  28. Half of LA Times Staff May Quit if Koch Brothers Buy it.

    - Yeh. Much less embarrassing than waiting for the pink slip.

  29. if Koch Brothers Buy it.

    Seems like laying out a lot of dough might even buy those secret Khalidi party tapes. But no. Of course not. No way, no how.

  30. The Indians I used to live with, even the ones who would spit on the ground when a white person walked by, positively fucking hated being called Native Americans.

  31. D.C. Council may push Washington Redskins into ‘Washington Redtails’

    What, was “Washington Overlords” already taken?

    Washington Red Inks would get my vote.

  32. “even buy those secret Khalidi party tapes”

    I’m thinking that those went down the Memory Hole long ago, but maybe someone kept a copy.

  33. Second for Red Inks.

  34. Red Inks or Kommissars

  35. Fascists

    Totalitarians

    Marxists (hey, that’s red, too)

  36. Pole Smokers

  37. . . .positively fucking hated being called Native Americans

    Same deal around here, ThomasD. They give you the patented Injun stare down and tell you, “I am _______(insert name of Tribe)”

  38. How about the Washington Bullets since J-Nap has so many of them?

    Besides that was the Wizards old name…

  39. Unindicted Co-conspirators

  40. “we need to do something but not sure what”

    From Satan’s anus to the common man’s poor tender head. (Which is about as near to the diametric opposite of ‘from your lips to God’s Ears’ as I can get)

  41. I’m 1/16th Lenni Lenape. Damn. Totally uncoolest of all the tribes. No trail of tears for us, just hanging out in the longhouse. I think maybe being part Lenni Kravitz would have been cooler, at least back in the 90′s. And maybe would have scored a college grant or two.

  42. The most dramatic moment came when Hochsprung’s daughter, Erica Lafferty, spoke up.

    “You had mentioned … owners of gun stores that the expanded background checks would harm,” Erica Lafferty said to Ayotte, according to NBC News.

    “I am just wondering why the burden of my mother being gunned down in the halls of her elementary school isn’t more important than that,” Lafferty said.

    The senator responded meekly.

    “Erica, I, certainly let me say — I’m obviously so sorry,” Ayotte said, according to NBC News.*

    pimping your own dead mother

    that’s some sick-in-the-head shit

  43. Awww look. Ace seems to be thinking of boarding the USS Unhelpful again. Maybe he has a little hobbit in him. Or would like to. Perhaps he can look at the wreck of the USS Inevitable through the glass bottom lounge at the aft of the vessel and wave to the USS Theocrat off and USS Moonbase in the distance. .

    ” Ted Cruz Offers Fellow GOP Senators Some Advice: You Could Try To Not Be Such “Squishes”
    —Ace ——- “

  44. they be like the “9/11 families” lobby

  45. pimping your own dead mother

    where cindy sheehan these days?

  46. ““I am just wondering why the burden of my mother being gunned down in the halls of her elementary school isn’t more important than that,” Lafferty said.”

    How are the two actually related? Are you seriously proposing that this law would have saved your mother from a murdering lunatic? If so how? Are you trying to make me feel guilt for things I have not done and betray the American people and strip them of their rights just put on some grotesque display of misguided compassion? This is politics dear. It’s not a ceremony to help you endure your grief. People get HURT when you hubristically push these buttons. And it doesn’t help your mom a damned bit. I respected your grief until you tried to cynically sell it to me here for a political favor that comes at the expense of gun owners constitutional rights. You walked in a victim of a terrible crime and walked out a tacky little shill who wants law abiding people to be less free than a murdering criminal is.

  47. “I am just wondering why the burden of my mother being gunned down in the halls of her elementary school isn’t more important than that,” Lafferty said.

    “Answer: your mother was gunned down with a weapon stolen by a guy who killed his own mother by shooting her.

    “And perhaps had someone in the school been armed besides the murderer with the stolen weapon, your mother would still be alive. I know that’s no real comfort, but it has the luxury of being the truth. No extra burden put on law abiding citizens would have stopped that horror from happening. But perhaps had the murderer believed he wasn’t walking in to a turkey shoot, he would have thought twice.

    “Oh, and pimping out your own dead mother with the object of denying law abiding citizens their natural right to protect themselves — something your mother couldn’t do thanks to laws passed in your state — that’s some sick-in-the-head shit.”

  48. similar but more nauseatingly opportunistic – these sick twists are acting like they won the absolute moral authority powerball and they’ll be damned if they’re not gonna Make The Most Of It

    but not a goddamn thing these sickos want would’ve done a whisper of a thing to have made their defenseless relatives any less defenseless

  49. Doesn’t your mother deserve to be more than the latest bloody shirt waved by the anti-gun lobby? Was her life so cheap an meaningless? Is she a fucking poker chip to cash in for some dramatically sad votes from soft old men who don’t really give a damn and want to go play some golf and eat a four course salmon dinner at the club on the taxpayer dime?

  50. I respected your grief until you tried to cynically sell it to me here for a political favor that comes at the expense of gun owners constitutional rights.

    That’s the key point with all these sorts.

    Having a terrible thing happen to you is a real reason for pity. Using that as a cheap yet useful rhetorical tool is something I don’t feel pity for even if we often label such behavior as pitiful.

  51. oh that was responding to the 9/11 thing

    but Mr. Jeff said it more better

  52. The yellow lines in the road won’t stop trucks or anything at all except attentive law abiding drivers. Making them bolder or wider or painting more of them won’t make them stop any trucks or cars that the old ones wouldn’t have.

    Loop hole is a liar’s word.

  53. There oughta’ be a law against breaking laws.

  54. your mother was gunned down with a weapon stolen by a guy who killed his own mother by shooting her

    Thanks for mentioning that. It is part of my universal response, now.

    “What does your proposed legislation do to stop matricidal gun thieves?”

  55. Towards the post — and I know this is a tangent — how do you get the consent of the Native American people for something like this?

    My first thought was that this is how the self-elected activists gain their power. Can’t talk to this non-existent group-mind? Well, there is this mouthy broad over here who’s willing to pretend such psychic abilities.

    My second thought is how this sorta exposes the weakness of ideas such as kultur or the zeitgeist. When we speak of these things as ethereal and hard-to-pin down I don’t really object to the usage. But, so often now in the age of sociology and we-all-had-to-read-Weber-in-college, we actually do speak as though these are real things somehow. That there is this emergent entity that somehow exists without matter or structure. People do take into account what they think other people think but this isn’t somehow some independent brain in a jar we can poke and prod and make meaningful statements about.

  56. The Washington Anonymous Sources

  57. Another tangent involves this strange idea we have of American Indians as some sort of unified entity.

    As an example, we use the term European and so omit their historical ambitions to gut and kill one another for any variety of differences. The Mongolians looked in from the outside and didn’t find Europeans. They found Hungarians and Poles (I don’t know the correct terms for the feudal sorts to be found in those areas in the 1200s).

  58. One could zap our brains into their old skulls and use Christendom instead of Europe but the point remains and is perhaps broadened. How does peasant A (who lives by this specific stream, under this lord, speaking this language) share identity with peasant B (who lives by this large boulder, under this other lord, speaking a different language)?

    They only do so through our eyes and our simple need for neat categories so that we can create coherent stories about the characters on the historical stage.

    Same same for American Indian lady.

  59. Sorry for the tangents. I’ve been doing some rudimentary thinking about how we think of history lately.

  60. American Indian lady’s heritage reads more Mestiso (spelling?) than Injun, if you ask me and no one did.

  61. I like the tangents, bh. It’s where the ideas and the thinking happen. Unless there’s a pesky picachu in the house.

  62. Another tangent involves this strange idea we have of American Indians as some sort of unified entity.

    For those who may not be getting the code here, what the aggrieved women are actually saying but not saying aloud is that they think white guys sponsored the billboard. The “consent of the people”, means only black people can use the N-word. The out-of-touch-rich-white-guys-co-opting-the-image-of-the-proud-natives is all projection, and SBP nailed it here.

  63. Good points, bh. I’m still trying to figure out how my Irish ancestors suffered hundreds of years of oppression, got starved into fleeing to America, experienced decades of poverty and further abuse here and now we’re part of a monolithic and racist white people.

  64. bh says April 30, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    Sorry for the tangents. I’ve been doing some rudimentary thinking about how we think of history lately.

    Ever watched James Burke’s Connections series from the 70′s? Changed my life…

  65. Sorry for the tangents.

    Sorry for dragging your tangent back into the topic. I hate to see good heavy thinking wasted on trying to make sense of prog drivel.

  66. Ever watched James Burke’s Connections series from the 70?s? Changed my life…

    Loved that show

  67. “Oh, and pimping out your own dead mother with the object of denying law abiding citizens their natural right to protect themselves — something your mother couldn’t do thanks to laws passed in your state — that’s some sick-in-the-head shit.”

    Laws passed that prevented Lafferty’s mother (or anyone else at the school that day) from defending herself and others. Laws passed to create the illusion of safety in the public mind. That’s the burden that led to the burden Lafferty’s mother had that day. The burden that created Lafferty’s burden of a gunned-down mother.

    Burdening the rest of us with the same burden –only moreso— won’t make her burden any lighter.

  68. Having Cherokee in your background is cool, because you even get songs like this.

  69. Another tangent involves this strange idea we have of American Indians as some sort of unified entity.

    That has been a pet peeve of mine for years. There was a huge amount of diversity among American Indians, peaceful civilized agrarians to murderous savages. Trying to lump them all into one romantic myth is ridiculous. And should be offensive to anyone but a mercenary race pimp.

  70. [S]o often now in the age of sociology and we-all-had-to-read-Weber-in-college, we actually do speak as though these are real things somehow.

    More to the point, we haven’t read Weber in college. We just think we have, because we read someobody who read Weber, and told us what Weber said.
    Unless, that is, he instead told us what he thought Weber said, or, worse yet, what he thought Weber should have said.

  71. D.C. Council may push Washington Redskins into ‘Washington Redtails’

    …’cause in a brilliant P.R. move, the team is going to one-up the NBA and announce that their entire roster is made up of rump-pumping manly men what like to play jingle-jangle-jingle with the sexual paraphenalia of their own kind. This name change simply describes the likely end result * of that sort of professional level rampant buggery.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

    It should be noted that ‘Redtails’ will just be a transition name. The public at large isn’t quite ready to accept the Washington Goatse as a thing. Yet.


    * You see what I did there.

  72. If you were Cree Blake you would get cool shit like this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhmeroR20lc

  73. This was part and parcel of my academic work: the idea of shared cultural memory, made manifest in books like Beloved, always struck me as a way to bind together into identity groups those who were best kept as individuals.

    Being effective at saying so made me suspect with certain of my leftist professors, particularly when I’d embarrass them in class by arguing circles around them.

  74. i liked tar baby more better beloved was cloying

  75. How does peasant A (who lives by this specific stream, under this lord, speaking this language) share identity with peasant B (who lives by this large boulder, under this other lord, speaking a different language)?

    By their fears, I suppose. They would both have fear of their lords, weather, wolves, brigands, starvation perhaps witchcraft or demons.

    They would also have some common experiences, of course; the stuff of life.

    Without a common language, there wouldn’t be much way to share.

  76. You should have reinvented yourself as a cultural historian, Jeff. Most history departments would have eaten that shit up.

    The identity group stuff, not the individual stuff.

    Unless you found a way to talk about the individual’s identity in conflict with the group’s fictive identity.

  77. Historically speaking, Peasant A and Peasant B don’t have jack-shit in common until they’re conscripted into one National Army or another after the French Revolution.

  78. Sorry for dragging your tangent back into the topic. I hate to see good heavy thinking wasted on trying to make sense of prog drivel.

    No worries, mondamay. I’ve enjoyed reading your comments here at pw of late and this thread has been no different.

  79. I don’t know if this is an example of cultural memory, but Thomas Sowell describes the way American blacks became entangled into a culture that had begun in rural England, but had moved to the American south, and the damage that culture has done to them ever since in Black Rednecks and White Liberals.

  80. Cultural Memory is usually made up of bullshit —like Obama claiming his parents met at one of the civil rights marches.

    When it’s not made up of grievance: Who wronged whom, and what our ancestors did or didn’t do about it, and what remains to be done to even the score; that kind of thing.

  81. Historically speaking, Peasant A and Peasant B don’t have jack-shit in common until they’re conscripted into one National Army or another after the French Revolution.

    That’s really the analogy I’m putting forth rather meekly between “American Indians” as they were at the time and feudal “Europeans” as they were at the time. Our now commonplace group identifications — that they themselves would use rather than us as historical time-travelers would attribute — aren’t a given. I don’t want to put it solely on nationalism but it’s certainly a large part of this impulse.

  82. Thanks, bh. I really like it here. I love how a single comment here like yours about the academic constructs we treat as literal minds/entities bring in a bunch of meaningful, intelligent feedback from people with different takes because they have such different experiences and academic disciplines. Real diversity of thought.
    I’ve learned a lot since I started reading here, and more since I joined in.

  83. “we” instead “us” above

  84. I was 5 or 6 when my parents first took me to Disneyland (which I remember VERY well) … there used to be a full Indian Village where Indians made & sold crafts, you could watch/participate in a “pow-wow” and ride in war canoes.

    I LOVED it. But that was 1959 (or 60).

  85. bh and mondamay sittin in a tree…

    I keed, I keed.

  86. leigh,

    Injuns I know are liking this billboard.

    An old friend of mine who is 100% Navajo, and an NRA Life Member, would definitely agree.

  87. Cultural Memory is usually made up of bullshit

    I’m always leery of discussing heritage/ancestry for a similar reason. Whatever my forebears were or were not, I cannot change them, or anything they may have ever done or said. I don’t feel responsible for them, nor they for me. They don’t make me better or worse. I didn’t live in their circumstances, nor they in mine.

    I love history, so it isn’t a matter of ignorance. I just see it as more of a divisive thing. I would rather make a good friend, than discover a famous ancestor.

  88. Dicentra wrote a very thorough comment about your corrosive jokes, Ernst. For shame.

    I also keed.

  89. Look at it this way, just because it’s bullshit, doesn’t mean that it’s not useful.

    What would flowers do without it?

  90. - If you haven’t done so already look up slaving and slave trade among Indian tribes. Rather interesting reading.

    - When you do you’ll find yet another log of anti-American Leftist bullshit narrative you can toss on the political bonfire.

  91. For anyone familiar with the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, and a follower of Civil War history, Look at the mini war between the tiny North Carolina Confederate community of Hazel Creek, and the Tennessee pro-Union community of Cades Cove. Both communities were geographically close, and there were even close relatives living in the rival settlements, but they launched raids against each other, stealing food, livestock, and supplies.

    Maybe it adds weight to Ernst’s contention that it depends which national army you’re drafted into…

  92. “If I respond, that gives her position legitimacy,” he said.

    that guy is creepy Mr. geoff

  93. Activists, self-named Kwame, generally are.

  94. “I am just wondering why the burden of my mother being gunned down in the halls of her elementary school isn’t more important than that,” Lafferty said.

    Because gravity, ya dumb cunt. Also Pluto. And anything else you can think of that has exactly nothing to do with your mother.

  95. “It is true I wasn’t there, nor was I even born yet, but I know the greatness of conscience in all the (walks of) life that bond us together as human, that language is universal, I respect the history of what occurred, and each day during the studying of the history, I believe that having faith in humanity still can bring greater change in our society,” she wrote.

    I find myself rooting against both of them, and wishing she’d try channeling the Tutsis instead.

  96. What are you bitter clingers so paranoid about?

    New Jersey Reports “Everyone” Who Has Been Committed To The NICS System

  97. Back on topic: A History Lesson On A Billboard Upsets Some

    My mother was born on the Res’ in ’13. She was made a citizen of the United States in ’24, and I was born in ’33. Mother used to tell me of the lies the Generals told, and how they were told that they would get “beef, heap beef” if they only set up camp on the reservations and turned their guns over to the cavalry.

    I had no idea that Stranger was so long in the tooth.

  98. proggtards self identify

    Half of LA Times Staff May Quit if Koch Brothers Buy it

    AWESOME. We just need to get them to buy a few more papers, and another teevee station, and perhaps we’ll have more of a fighting chance.

  99. orangeman take note

    Opposition MP Julio Borges appeared on a private television channel after the brawl, sporting facial bruises and blood running down one side of his swollen face.

    “They can beat us, jail us, kill us, but we will not sell out our principles. These blows give us more strength,” Borges said. “(Assembly speaker) Diosdado Cabello has to be held to account personally.”

    link

  100. Whatever my forebears were or were not, I cannot change them, or anything they may have ever done or said. I don’t feel responsible for them, nor they for me. They don’t make me better or worse. I didn’t live in their circumstances, nor they in mine.

    call me crazy, but I feel just about as much pride, when I read about the great/heroic things that ANYONE from US history did because they are my ancestors. My intellectual ancestors. I have been built on their traditions. Even though my bloodline didn’t arrive in America until around 1900 – MY history is the civil war. The revolutionary war. etc.

    My genealogy means nothing to me.

    People who don’t adopt this attitude to some extent are not American. They are other, and wish to remain other. This is what causes the divisions in our society. They wish to remain the ancestors of slaves – etc.

    I’m not saying one should ignore/not care about what their forefather’s did. It can be cool. But I choked up at the Civil War museum, as if THEY had been MY blood-line ancestors, and they most definitely were not. But they are.

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  102. Don’t forget what day it is.

    http://twitpic.com/cncoxn

  103. “If you haven’t done so already look up slaving and slave trade among Indian tribes.”

    The Tlingit had slaves right up until the Alaska Purchase in 1867. They even carved Lincoln on a totem pole in an effort to publicly shame the U.S. government into compensating them for their lost property.

  104. I would rather make a good friend, than discover a famous ancestor.

    Yep.

    Me, I’m always amused/bemused by people who shrink from learning or admitting that one of their ancestors was unsavory, a criminal or traitor or maybe just not a very nice guy. I actually kind of like the fact my most famous known ancestor got caught looking for another job behind his then-employer’s back — said employer being Thomas Jefferson.

    Turns out ancestors behave just like real people instead of saints and angels.

  105. You mean that your ancestor could be as likely to be someone who killed a noble savage than to be a noble savage?

    Statistically, I’d guess more likely. And in the case of Elizabeth Warren, P=1.0.

  106. Oh, man was that garbled. Take my blogging privileges away for today; there’s not enough coffee.

  107. Hateful right wing haters hate with their hatey hateful misogyny!

    The female student targeted in the UW Crushes post spoke to the Boomerang on Thursday morning.

    She said the post was threatening and upsetting.

    “I’m a rape survivor myself,” she said. “That is one of the worst things someone can threaten.”

    She said not knowing the identity of the poster was concerning and that she met Thursday with campus police officers investigating the incident.

    She also criticized the decision by UW Crushes administrators to allow the graphic post to be displayed on the Facebook page.

    “I just don’t know how you could not look at (the content) and just post it,” she said.

    Fortunately, the hatey hateful perpetrator has been identified. Turns out he’s a dumpy broad who’s a Bill Ayers fan and, oddly enough, the intended victim of the hatefucking.

  108. Apropos of serr8d’s May first reminder, isn’t it about time that winter should end? For fuck’s sake, quit snowing already.

  109. This type of thing is almost always a hoax. See also: various “noose” incidents.

  110. Various logical fallacies abound at Pablo’s second link. Award for Appeals to Disbelief with multiple clusters.

  111. Who would do that? Who could act out the part that well?

    Every hoax perpetrator whose hoax survived the first hour of investigation, is who.

  112. Does anyone believe for a single moment that there’s a man on Earth who’d rape that pig?

  113. Because fake but accurate, eh Slart? Teh stoopid…

  114. Who would do that? Who could act out the part that well?

    Someone bonkers enough to crave the attention that much. We’re going to need a full diagnosis from leigh.

  115. ba haa haa –


    “This episode has sparked an important discussion reaffirming that the UW community has no tolerance for sexual violence or violence of any type,” UW spokesman Chad Baldwin said. “The fact that the Facebook post apparently was a fabrication does not change the necessity for continued vigilance in reassuring that we have a campus where everyone feels safe.”

  116. Chad was a journalism major he doesn’t know any better

  117. Someone bonkers enough to crave the attention that much

    This is it, SW. Insert psychological jargon in a much longer report arriving at the same conclusion.

  118. I thought I would impress you with my technical knowledge, leigh. I was going to introduce her obvious daddy issues too, but better quit while ahead.

  119. I am impressed indeed, SW. Cut right to the chase, you did. That takes talent.

  120. Links for Pablo’s 3:55 am.

    New Jersey Reports “Everyone” Who Has Been Committed To The NICS System

  121. That’s a HIPPA violation, geoff. Some poor fellow is going to commit suicide after learning that all his neighbors now know he was hospitalized.

  122. When you’re fee eeling sad and blue,

    You know gov’s made a fool of you.

    Holly, via Cochise.

  123. Abe Froman says May 1, 2013 at 8:24 am

    Does anyone believe for a single moment that there’s a man on Earth who’d rape that pig?
    Well she’s standing next to the man that married her in the picture, but I don’t want to speculate or anything.

  124. Native Americans singled out without their permission, Kerri Salazar? Speak for your single self. I’m of Native ancestry, and this single not only gives his permission, but demands our history be publicized to prevent another future genocide. Damn the feds.

  125. Well she’s standing next to the man that married her in the picture, but I don’t want to speculate or anything

    There’s a lid for every pot and all that. I’m just kind of theorizing that rapey individuals aim higher than that. If for no other reason than how muffin tops inhibit easy entry.

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