April 15, 2013

Breaking: pair of explosions at the finish line of the Boston Marathon [updated]

CBS:

Several people have been hurt in two explosions near the Boston Marathon finish line, CBS Boston reports.

There were two booms heard from near the finish line inside the Fairmount Copley Plaza Hotel.

WBZ-TV says the medical tent near the end of the marathon course has been filled with many people who have been “gravely injured.”

It happened around 2:45 p.m. outside Marathon Sports on Boylston Street, according to WBZ-TV’s Lis Hughes, who was near the scene covering the marathon.

There were two “incredibly powerful explosions just seconds apart,” according to Hughes.

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Race officials locked down the hotel because of the report.

Because it would be wildly inappropriate to quip something here about Massachusetts needing tougher explosive-control laws — for the runners, if not for the children — I’ll refrain.

But I’m thinking it — when what I should be doing is offering prayers for the victims.

That’s what the progressive politicization of every last thing has done to me, to us, to we, the people.

 

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update:  From Darleen:  “One of my clerks is listening to the Boston police scanner (an app on her phone). Other explosive devices have been located around the city … near hotels, one near the Boston library

“2 confirmed dead, at least 10 with missing limbs at Boston Mass hospital.”

Horrific. The question is, can we blame this on Bush or the teabaggers?

Undoubtedly, yes.

Posted by Jeff G. @ 1:30pm
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  1. Shoot. One of our guys was running the marathon today.

  2. The aftermath photos are horrifying, almost surreal. And apparently, another device was found (by EMS) in front of the Mandarin hotel.

  3. Because it would be wildly inappropriate to quip something here about Massachusetts needing tougher explosive-control laws — for the runners, if not for the children — I’ll refrain.

    I looked over at cnn.com to see the comments, and a few wags did just that. The responses were the usual knee-jerk “Have some respect” and “wow, classy” BS.

    Love the cognitive dissonance on the left side.

  4. So who won?

  5. Fox News reporting 3 dead.

    God Almighty…

  6. Whatever we do, let’s not look for terrorists. This was likely done by an old white guy. They are all quite disgruntled, you know.

  7. This sounds like a pipe bomb attack. Ball bearings and shell casings found.

  8. chris tingles – aryan nation to blame

  9. The Won has been notified. Everybody relax now.

  10. proggtardia – april 15th tea party to blame

  11. Three hours after the winner crossed the line? WTF?

    Wouldn’t a [competent] terrorist try to blow up the winners?

  12. as I was trying to explain to a drone the other day, people intent on evil do not need guns. . .

  13. Judging from the thick grey smoke at the time of the explosions it would appear to be black powder, the video isn’t fantastic, but it sure doesn’t look like anything high order.

  14. You don’t need anything high end to wreak havoc.

  15. Shep is whining about 9/11 now and “unity” and trying to cry. Geraldo will have to one up him later tonight.

  16. “the time of the explosions it would appear to be black powder”

    get your reloading supplies while you can

  17. Thank gods we’ve moved on to Cavuto. Shep was trying to pry off his carapace and sound empathetic and less insect-like.

    Di, BPD reporting 2 dead 22 injured.

  18. That was about the closest I ever came to peeing on my TV and flipping it off with my toes. Yeah, I was feeling kind of peevish while that feckless prima dona idiot tried to rise to the moment. I wish I’d skipped the lunchtime coffee. It might have made watching that sorry display a bit less raspy against the raw flesh of my soul.

    You don’t have to sell me on the fact that bombings really suck Shep! I promise you!

  19. di,

    Nope. Wait until the slower runners get there and bomb the families/friends/teammates gathered around. Lots more people later on.

    Patriot’s Day in Boston is a big deal and a good portion of the city shuts down. This was carefully considered.

    I’m just glad the remaining unexploded devices remain that way (except for the one BPD bomb squad took out).

  20. So it happened on Tax Day which looks kind of anti-government motivated , but it’s an IRA style sidewalk bombing in heavily Irish Boston, and we are currently throwing rocks at the Norks, Iraq just had a crazy truck bombing ahead of their elections, we aren’t getting along with what’s left of Syria… so…

    Blame Youtube again?

  21. @NickKristof just tweeted:

    “explosion is a reminder that ATF needs a director. Shame on Senate Republicans for blocking”

    Stay classy, NYT!

  22. I’m sure we can dig up a video that Muslims find offensive and use the person who made it as a scapegoat for this bombing.

  23. “get your reloading supplies while you can”

    Relatively few people load black powder cartridges (mainly competition long range steel target shooters.)

    Smokeless powders are what get used in modern firearms. Although, they are only smokeless (and only explosive) when contained in some sort of pressure vessel. Under normal atmospheric pressure they simply combust, and poorly at that – with lots of smoke and residue.

    They make lousy and highly unreliable pipe bombs, as compared to true black powder, which is an explosive, albeit of low power.

    Anyone speculating on the whereabouts of Bill Ayers or Kathy Boudin yet?

  24. Maybe when we find out who did this some Ivy League can offer him/them jobs!

  25. “explosion is a reminder that ATF needs a director. Shame on Senate Republicans for blocking”

    Another reminder that they believe if The Right People are in charge, nothing bad will happen, ever.

  26. Sheriff Arpaio raises the specter of the OKC bombing which took place on the 19th of April.

    I think it’s a stretch. It does sound IRA-ish.

  27. what cranky said. I can just imagine the bomber thinking, “Oh no, there’s a new ATF director. Guess I’ll have to shelve my eeeeeevil plan.” /sadTrombone

  28. “Horrific. The question is, can we blame this on Bush or the teabaggers?”

    And so it starts. I’d blame it on something else actually. It’s probably not the Muzzies, at least not on their own. I can say without hesitation that we had bomb sniffing dogs here in Framingham along with massive police presence and National Guard.

    There is no way that this wasn’t actually allowed by our ‘betters’.

    Just because you’re paranoid? DOESN’T mean they’re not out to get you.

  29. I left out the whole Martial Law idea, and to expect more of this, But at least I didn’t typo!

  30. What the hell with the NG in Framingham, Blitz? Thoughts?

  31. It is Branch Dravidian/OKC/Columbine revenge (Hitler Lenin Birthday) week isn’t it.

  32. “explosion is a reminder that ATF needs a director”

    So the bomb was made of cigars and white lightning and set off with a gun?

  33. also Pot Head and Earth days.

  34. Yes it is, bgbear.

    Someone reports smelling cordite. There was an explosion at the JFK library in Dorchester, too or so is being reported.

  35. Also? same time frame, JFK Library went up in smoke ( controlled) and now 4 explosive devices have been found

  36. NG Leigh?

  37. OH!! I don’t know. I went to see the Marathon and cheer as I do every year. There was a bunch here. See my Martial Law idea

  38. National Guard, Blitz. Sorry.

  39. The fire at JFK was large and black. Cordite? Have’t heard that yet, watching while I allegedly type

  40. Meanwhile, we get this headline from MSN: Dow tumbles 266 after Boston explosions

    Yeah, like the DOW Death Spiral™ didn’t start this morning when the markets opened.

  41. “explosion is a reminder that ATF needs a director”

    Because, had there been a director present, Kristoff would conclude this event was proof of gross incompetence…

  42. Some phone caller who was at MIT in his office, said he smelled cordite. At least I think it was him. There are a lot of unidentified people on the phone.

  43. explosion is a reminder that ATF needs a director

    Yes, a director would have made sure they found those explosives beforehand.

    Kristof is a moron. And that’s a compliment.

  44. The DOW had already taken the poison pill at the opening bell. This has nothing to do with that, headline writers.

  45. Before I’d believe them I’d want to know where these people ever smelled cordite prior to today.

  46. This was ALLOWED Slart. No two ways about it. We had dogs and Guard all over us today. ” never let a serious crisis go to waste”

    Again. expect more.

  47. Voice from the past: Tom Ridge invokes the Unabomber.

    Who is still locked up in Super Max, to the best of my knowledge.

  48. Thomas? They never have. Unless they were from Sweden.

  49. Unabomber Mind Control; story at 11.

  50. So multiple pipebombs with ball bearings, two that exploded, and more disarmed is the current ?

    And 12 dead many wounded including at least 10 dismembered?

  51. Maybe he was saying “cordite” as a catch-all for “burning shit”?

    The National Mall, Capitol Building, et al are all on lockdown. Alrighty, then.

  52. So the bomb was made of cigars and white lightning and set off with a gun?

    That particular agency also has an E under it’s (in)competency.

  53. Hold the phone! A Press Conference is a-coming. There’s an unoccupied lectern looking lonely in the corner of the shot.

  54. Cordite is what you smell when you fire a revolver or are in a 35 mph car wreck that sets off your air bags. Usually it is pretty smokeless.

  55. Cordite has a very nice and unique odor. These people don’t even know deodorant.

    As far as Washington being shut down? Oh fer fucks sake…How many miles away from them? Their just going for a NEW crisis.

  56. oops. They’re

  57. Wouldn’t a [competent] terrorist try to blow up the winners?

    Not if you’re trying to kill Americans!

    /rimshot

  58. Same deal in NYC, Blitz. All the coppers are on red alert and setting up barricades around different structures in town.

    Gracie Mansion, fersures.

  59. If they have unexploded devices then they know the means of ignition. Multiple devices makes me suspect timers or cell phones. Either way that gives a lot to the investigators.

    It also says plenty of time and effort.

  60. Well I don’t like the cordite smell. I associate it with being kind of stunned in a wrecked car and trying to find my glasses which flew off and ended up on the floor board while strangers try to get me out of the street and unhook my battery cable to shut off my horn for me.

  61. some say this was first time for the dogs so, a tip off?

    It could be that the bombs were delivered at last minute. Example, a person at hotel that did not come down t watch when the dogs were patrolling.

  62. Doesn’t matter who did it. The fact that it happened on Tax Day is more than enough “evidence” to indict every knuckle-dragging teabagger who ever complained about his taxes being too high.

  63. Thomas, yes. They timed it perfectly as to the main body of runners and spectators. Doesn’t GET any better than their timing. I know nothing of cell phones, timers or bombs for that matter, but this seems perfect.

    SHIT…they stopped the Bruins game.

    Sorry Paloe, but I live the smell of cordite in the morning. Smells like….Gun range…

  64. bgbear? I know they were all over US….all I know is that it was far behind a building, and we on the street were all that were being checked

  65. I like the smell of cordite, too. I’ve never wrecked my car or been in a wreck in a car with an airbag, so it just reminds me of blasting away at targets.

  66. Ah, your feckless governor is on the tube. Dude is a shrimp.

  67. He’s….[ this comment has been deleted due to the fact that my governor is in fact worse than that]

  68. I love the commish…Has the same name as me, but MY GOD is he a squish

  69. Blitz, he can see his pension from his house. Of course he’s a squish.

  70. Blitz, yes, that’s what I mean, the assumption being that a bomber would be in the crowd or would have planted the bomb in the crowd. Nothing about the guy who is holed up in a building waiting for his chance.

    Were the dog checking before the bulk of the runners were coming in? I am thinking the best time is when the “peloton” was making its way past the crowd. Too much going on for the dogs to be effective.

  71. He used to be better Leigh, I actually used to like him. Have you seen the early footage?

    Patrick is a CSMFCLSOAW

    Do not try to figure that out, as I respect you and everyone else here.

  72. NY Post says that a “Saudi national” is under guard at Mass General.

    Today is also the “Birthday of the Great Leader” in North Korea. I don’t think that possibility is too likely, but it’s something to keep in mind.

  73. bgbear, I do not know and can’t tell you. I’m about 5 miles from the start. I can tell you that on the street there is high security and that the bombs came from a deep alley.

  74. so they arrested the first Saudi they could find. Typical. /liberal drone

  75. Correction: it now says an “undisclosed hospital”. I think it said Mass General the first time, though.

  76. OH!! bg, you’re a bike fan too?

  77. Pace Blitz’s on-the-scene speculation, the awful thing about this is that it really could have been anyone what done it, though I suspect a lone-wolf McVeigh type.

    A teabagger who is protesting tax day would have targeted an actual IRS building, not the Boston Marathon.

    My guess is that this was a personal grudge against someone in the blast zone OR against the marathon itself. A decent scriptwriter would pin it on a mousy person who got dissed and who decided that making a big BOOM was the way to go.

  78. Di? I accept that and actually agree. I never thought the Muzzies did this…My take is “Never let a crisis go to waste ” followed by Martial law.

    Just because you’re paranoid doen’t mean they’re not out to get you.

  79. My wife watches all that bike stuff, fit men in tights, go figure. I must hear “peloton” a million time during Tour de France. It seems a good word to describe a pack of people considering the etymology is “hair ball”.

  80. Dude! Shep Smith mentions a Penske truck!

    Blitz, your cell phone service is getting shut down and you’re not to travel in large groups. I hope you called your girls.

  81. If you’re just trying to maximize casualties in a target-rich environment, why choose an event that already has ambulances and emergency workers by the fistful, right there at the finish line?

    #politicalterrorismFAIL

  82. ‘My guess is that this was a personal grudge against someone in the blast zone OR against the marathon itself. ‘

    This….NO. Not possible. You are from Utah, I’m from here. Trust me, nobody around here is even capable of reloading never mind makin bombs of that size

    Let’s look at the facts. It happened at the exact finish line, at the exact time where the most people finish and when the most spectators are there.

    I never said muzzies, I expect that Martial Law is imminent

  83. TOO funny bgbear!! I actually enjoy biking. have spent WAY too much money on mine, but I like the competition.

  84. It was someone from Ottawa, Blitz. A fan who has a grudge against the Bruins.

  85. If a white guy had done it, he’d have been instantly branded a right-wing nutter. As it was a guy of evidently Arab extraction, it certainly has nothing to do with Islam. You bigots.

  86. Dammit…You have the right of it Leigh…I never thought of that.

    You just WAIT until what I do to all of Quebec!!

  87. Trust me, nobody around here is even capable of reloading never mind makin bombs of that size

    (a) It only takes one.

    (b) The marathon attracts peeps from all over the worlds.

    (c) An episode of Criminal Minds was set in Boston and there was a mass murderer.

    QED

  88. Is there any looting yet? Those cops are all busy right now.

  89. Penske, because terrorists are smart enough not to rent from Uhaul.

  90. Blitz, the report of a bomb at the JFK library at Columbia Point means the JFK Presidential Library, I take it, and not a branch of the Boston Public Library system named after JFK?

  91. The business about it being a Saudi national who is being held is one of those details that comes and goes from the reporting web sites.

    48-hour rule, I guess.

  92. The JFK Library bomb might have been an electrical fire?

    Yet Another Rumor Wildfiring Its Way Around The Tubez.

  93. Correct sdferr. Di? I love your thoughts and writing to death, but at this point? I truly suspect a patsy/fall guy that comes from nowhere…Think Jack Ruby, ok?

  94. The JFK Library bomb might have been an electrical fire?

    No effing way. Have you seen the blown out windows? the black smoke?

  95. Only one picture of the library and it looks like a file photo, so far.

    “Lone wolf” batted around. Again, with the Unabomber.

  96. why are you worried about marital law? Are you a divorce attorney?

  97. No effing way. Have you seen the blown out windows? the black smoke?

    Top floor, windows might have been taken out by the FD. They seem to be backing off the bomb theory.

  98. Pablo, what’s your local news saying? Anything different or just idiot on the street interviews?

  99. Actually bgbear? MARITAL law is why I’ve never been…however, I have a great family and great grandkids…

    Martial law however? Executive signings…Billions of bullets…thousands of armored cars…Spy centers…an Alynskite marxist scum of a president…TSA,DHS.EPA….

    Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you

  100. Air space restricted at Logan, now.

  101. No Pablo, I’m seeing bottom floor, blown out and black.

  102. Close up Pablo. I don’t know what you’ve see, but mine was first hand. When ave you seen it, because the’re not showing it on 7 anymore

  103. 12 dead, frack.

  104. Scott Pellethead on CBS said that Logan airspace is now open again.

  105. 48-hour rule, guys.

    It ain’t true until Wolf Blitzer denies it.

  106. I’m guessing it was a runner who needed an extension on filing his taxes. ‘Cuz you know that’s the first thing Teh Won is gonna offer at his presser.

  107. Doc spox is saying there is no loss of limbs at his hospital (they have 26 there).

    Curiouser and curiouser.

  108. I’m not seeing anything especially detailed Blitz.

  109. if Saudi kid is also backpack dude, I say the got (one of )their man(men), otherwise there is an old, white, tax protestor watching Fox news cackling away.

  110. bgbear, where did you get 12 dead? Faux is still saying 2.

  111. Maybe it was Amanda Marcotte, worried that people were starting to follow the baby murderer story.

  112. Patrick is a CSMFCLSOAW
    Do not try to figure that out,

    Penis sucking mother fornicating pudenda licking son of a sexworker?

  113. Leigh, the Atlantic has some gruesome pix including one missing limb.

  114. NY Post for what it is worth. People with loss of limbs may have died.

  115. Close Ernst, but no cigar

  116. If they are worried in NY and DC must be the usual suspects(I mean the real ones, not SPLC usual suspects).

  117. In no particular order…

    - my first thought was also there’s no way this wasn’t allowed. It’s been a bad day all around for liberty, why wreck a trend.*

    - NPR had some communist complimenting some other NPR communist who was 100 yds from the blasts. On his remarkable composure or some such.

    - Marathon regulation is not a meme.

    - SAFETY, now that is a meme. Shocker.

    - I hope you post again, Blitz.

    - also, when did the rush to invoke “thoughts and prayers” arrive in the national headspace? Wasn’t that a personal and private thing some years ago? Does it strike anyone else as begging for acceptance, as when the right does it as if to show we’re just as compassionate as the left, the left making those rules? No offense; I’m just asking. When you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen and like that.

    * my god but this has become a foolish nation in a hurry, hasn’t it? Failshit. In a crisis clearly we couldn’t wouldn’t defend ourselves, whether externally or internally, such is our X Factor mentality. Which, FOX. I know.

  118. Actually? you have it Right Ernst….you win a cookie!!Leigh, make Ernst a cookie, ok?

  119. Right now the Commish is saying that JFK was an incendiary device or a fire. So not an explosion.

  120. Also, Commish says no one in custody.

  121. Which doesn’t mean they’re not babysitting any persons of interest.

  122. Have any radioactive cannibal samurai been taken into custody?

  123. I made cake yesterday. Ernst? Cake?

  124. I’m pretty sure this was Occupy.

  125. A report from CBS Boston including footage.

  126. The SCOAMF is on the tube now. Mouth be movin’, don’t be sayin’ shit.

  127. Jho? I’m honestly not intelligent enough to post here, I only do when my dander gets up. But thank you for the honor.

    “* my god but this has become a foolish nation in a hurry, hasn’t it? Failshit, and like that. In a crisis clearly we couldn’t wouldn’t defend ourselves”

    My take on that? Yes, we could. BUT it takes people like You, I, Jeff, Squid, Sdferr, Danger, SBP, and believe it or not? even Happy.I do have confidence in the pikachu.

    Unfortunately, there’s not too many of us anywhere, never mind on Jeffs’ site.

    God help us and pass the ammunition

  128. Cake? did someone say cake?? I want pie.

  129. - If there’s going to be cake I’ll help carry some body bags…..

    …..because if we’re true gun loving Americans then we should ______(fill in with appropriate Progressive lies/accusations).

    - There were children harmed in this this attack. Maybe the Left will use pictures of them to push gun control. The Lefturds are experts at exploiting everything, mainly children. Fucking low life cowards.

  130. Video of explosions.

  131. That one dude’s legs is fucked up.

    If they catch the fuckers who did this — whatever their reason for doing so — they should be strung up from a lamp post and the people of Boston who feel the urge allowed to beat them with a stick like pinatas until the sweetbreads come out.

  132. A senior U.S. intelligence official says two more explosive devices have been found near the scene of the Boston marathon where two bombs detonated earlier.

    The official said the new devices were being dismantled.

  133. JeffG? I honestly believe they will find a patsy for this. Like us, but NOT like us…I don’t know how to explain that, but if they can’t find the real truth? Hell, with my facebook page? they could blame it on me. Pro 2nd amendment and all that.

    I really don’t think the’ll blame it on me, but…

    You’rre not paranoid if they really ARE out to get you.

  134. In this video, you can see the timer at the finish line.

    My friend’s wife crossed there at 4:07:22.

  135. From Bill Ayer’s Wikipedia Entry:

    In June 1969, the Weatherman took control of the SDS at its national convention, where Ayers was elected Education Secretary.[8] Later in 1969, Ayers participated in planting a bomb at a statue dedicated to police casualties in the 1886 Haymarket affair confrontation between labor supporters and the Chicago police.[12] The blast broke almost 100 windows and blew pieces of the statue onto the nearby Kennedy Expressway.[13] (The statue was rebuilt and unveiled on May 4, 1970, and blown up again by other Weathermen on October 6, 1970.[13][14] Rebuilding it yet again, the city posted a 24-hour police guard to prevent another blast, and in January 1972 it was moved to Chicago police headquarters).[15]

    Ayers participated in the Days of Rage riot in Chicago in October 1969, and in December was at the “War Council” meeting in Flint, Michigan. Two major decisions came out of the “War Council.” The first was to immediately begin a violent, armed struggle (e.g., bombings and armed robberies) against the state without attempting to organize or mobilize a broad swath of the public. The second was to create underground collectives in major cities throughout the country.[16] Larry Grathwohl, a Federal Bureau of Investigation informant in the Weatherman group from the fall of 1969 to the spring of 1970, stated that “Ayers, along with Bernardine Dohrn, probably had the most authority within the Weatherman”.[17]

    After the Greenwich Village townhouse explosion in 1970, in which Weatherman member Ted Gold, Ayers’ close friend Terry Robbins, and Ayers’ girlfriend, Diana Oughton were killed when a nail bomb being assembled in the house exploded, Ayers and several associates evaded pursuit by US law enforcement officials. Kathy Boudin and Cathy Wilkerson survived the blast. Ayers was not facing criminal charges at the time, but the federal government later filed charges against him.[4] Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Department headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972, as he noted in his 2001 book, Fugitive Days. Ayers writes:

    Although the bomb that rocked the Pentagon was itsy-bitsy – weighing close to two pounds – it caused ‘tens of thousands of dollars’ of damage. The operation cost under $500, and no one was killed or even hurt.[18]

    Some media reports and political critics have suggested that Ayers, Dohrn or the Weathermen were connected to the fatal 1970 San Francisco Police Department Park Station bombing but neither Ayers nor anyone else has been charged or convicted of this crime.

  136. Oh…and WTF is a sweetbread?

  137. This is quite horrific and some pictures have already been posted by The Atlantic of people there visibly missing body parts.

    Can’t we give the political point scoring a rest for a while. Here’s what we know about who did this and why so far: .

    Yes, Wolf Blitzer, Nick Kristof, et alius are assholes, but we already knew that before today’s attempts at guilt by wholly uninformed speculation and trying to score cheap political points occurred. Calling them out to have some respect for the killed and maimed by just shutting the hell up about it for a couple of days is fully warranted, but beyond that, I’d like to know a lot more before trying to be definitive about anything at all, including any extended criticism of the ghouls and vampires. Let them run with it, hopefully more people will become aware of just how obvious their efforts to poison the well have become. Plenty of time for recriminations later. For now, little beyond sympathy for the victims and anything that can help identify and apprehend those responsible is warranted.

  138. John? was that today? If so, God bless and take care of her. Tonight was a bad day.

  139. Someone should tell Bumblefuck that Patriots Day is a commemoration of the response to one of the earliest attempts at gun control in Massachussetts.

  140. Oh…and WTF is a sweetbread?

    It’s a nut or something.

  141. The SCOAMF is on the tube now. Mouth be movin’, don’t be sayin’ shit.

    He called for increased national security. Because under his watch it’s been just a matter of time before something happened?

    I remember being discomforted by the right’s defending the patriot act post 9/11. I’m way more uncomfortable now.

  142. @Blitz, yep. She’s okay though. Really shaken.

    She gave birth to triplets last year and wanted a way to lose weight.

  143. Thanks I thin Pablo, but ….yuck.

    If we did tell Bumblefuck about Patriots day? he’d get the wrong idea and attempt King George’ idea…Manchurian candidate and all that. Better to leave him clueless for now.

  144. Thank GOD John. We’ve lost good friends and good friends wives here before, but not to terrorism.

    Give her a huge hug from all of us please?

    I’m not a regular commenter her, but a regular daiily lurker

  145. Oh…and WTF is a sweetbread?

    - You’re sitting on a pair even as we type.

  146. @Jho

    This is what I’m saying. He’s going all out on Martial law. I have no doubt of this.

  147. He seems to think Boston still embodies the spirit of those Patriots. That’s because he’s ignorant and full of shit.

  148. It used to be outside of 128…NOW it’s outside of the 495 belt. We’re farked.

  149. BBH? No, my girlfriend owns them.

  150. - So we have a Supreme court more than willing to decide every personal aspect of our lives, but refuses to get involved in a clear 2nd amendment rights violation.

    - If something doesn’t change radically, and soon, this country is finished.

  151. BBH? Too late. When even Scalia says there are limitations to the 2nd, not even thinking about the 3rd, then this Country is already lost.

  152. I know y’all know the 3rd, but it just pisses me OFF that we need the 2nd to keep the 3rd the 1st and MAYBE the 9th and 10th… I’m no scholar, but I can friggin read with comprehension.

    Never mind the 4th, which I forgot in the above.

  153. - I hope that someday the IX and X come crashing down on everything inside the beltway like a giant asteroid.

  154. Scoamf looked fairly disinterested. Perfunctory, almost.

  155. Sweetbreads are the the thymus and pancreas (usually of livestock one would hope) which are prized for being extraordinarily tender and flavorful pieces of meat when roasted. Rex Stout’s genius private detective hero Nero Wolfe loved the things and had his cook and manservant Fritz prepare them regularly.

  156. He also wore a tie that Bush wore, I think.

  157. So, this jagoff MA Dem Congresscritter takes to the floor of the House to recognize the “tragedy” and also tells us that Patriots’ Day commemorates what early American Patriots did in 1776.

    Um, no. These assholes’ staffs have multimillion dollars budgets that we’re funding. They could at least sit down and look at frigging Wikipedia or something.

  158. Obzm says he gonna get ‘em, jes asoon a’he getrs thim Bengoogigahzi fellrs to brung to jistice. Qwik like. O, ‘n Art3 courts, of course, fo th’innertainment valyah.

  159. I’m actually disgusted at the latest news reportin, All local, all the time. NEVER a mention of Muzzies ( which I do not suspect) or terrorism.

    Paloe? Double YUCK….I don’t mind deer heart or pig snout/ears/or what have you on a pig? but kidneys/spleen/lungs? no go unless YOU cook it.

    Full disclosure, I grew up on a farm.

  160. Scoamf looked fairly disinterested. Perfunctory, almost.

    He is trying to figure out if he can charge that racist flagstick at Augusta with a hate crime.

  161. HA!!! Couldn’t have said it or typoded it any better myself sdferr

  162. All local, all the time. NEVER a mention of Muzzies ( which I do not suspect) or terrorism.

    They will only call them terrorists if they do turn out to be domestic right wingers.

    Islamic terrorists don’t exist.

  163. Levin’s Boston reporter contact just reported that one of those killed was an 8 yr. old boy.

  164. I’m sad for the victims and sad for us all. There will be more security measures at public events and in public places, more surveillance, more personal data gathered, analyzed, catalogued for further review…

  165. True Beemoe.

    I’m hearing different reports on deaths, and now hearing that it’s being blamed on our switchover to Kerry/ some other asshole.

  166. this jagoff MA Dem Congresscritter takes to the floor of the House to recognize the “tragedy” and also tells us that Patriots’ Day commemorates what early American Patriots did in 1776.

    I suppose you disagree with this official proclamation too

    When the appeals court rejected the Second Amendment Foundation’s plea, Attorney General Eric Schneiderman called the unanimous decision “a victory for New York State law, the United States Constitution, and families across New York who are rightly concerned about the scourge of gun violence that all too often plagues our communities.”

  167. Taichi? THAT is what I’m talking about. NEVER let a crisis go to waste. I have no doubt that the DHS FBI TSA knew this was going to happen. We’ll be more restricted, more scrutinized not only in public, but in private ( our emails, our facebook and Tweets ) I’m not a”black helicopter’ guy YET but getting there.

  168. The older guy falling down at the finish reminds me of that d day film and the soldier cut down as he raced up the beach. I wonder if this will be iconic.

  169. “Um, no. These assholes’ staffs have multimillion dollars budgets that we’re funding. They could at least sit down and look at frigging Wikipedia or something.”

    We thought if we dared correct our betters on matters of verifiable fact that we’d get some version of minitru telling us about the boot and the face and the stamping with the forever and the glaaaaven….

    Instead their response is more like “Huh? Well fuck. Whatever hater. I like patriots as much as you probably hate gays and blacks. Why you gotta be such a damned nerd about this stuff huh? “

  170. I suppose you disagree with this official proclamation too

    @jho. WTF?? That was a simple fucking case with TRUE standing. The people involved were actually hurt by that law as far as I cn tell. If I’m wrong, please let me know.

  171. If something doesn’t change radically, and soon, this country is finished.

    We’ve been finished for quite some time, but as long as Wile E. Coyote doesn’t look down, we’re still walking on solid sandstone.

  172. For what it’s worth, cordite was used almost exclusively by the Brits and mostly during WWI and WWII, so unless you’re at the range wailing away with your vintage SMLE and British WWII surplus ammo it’s unlikely you’re firing cordite. I’ll guarantee you it’s not used as the propellant in car air bags, check out HowStuffWorks’ article on how air bags work and you’ll see they use a fairly exotic mix of chemicals that wouldn’t be useful as explosives or firearms propellants.

    So.. ThomasD is right, darn few people these days have any idea what cordite smells like. I call BS on that report.

  173. @jho. WTF??

    Sarcasm, Blitz. I’m not entirely sure about Pablo but I know I for one am courting incorrigible curmudgeonhood. Well, I am kinda sure about Pablo…

  174. Sad times for America, regardless of who did this horrific deed.

    Both Chris Matthews and Alex Jones called out by the Twitchy: Matthews for speculating that ‘Tax Day’ (read: TEA Party or Outlaws) might be involved; Jones for calling #FalseFlag.

    Been a while since 9/11; Jones must needs more sweet, sweet truther ca$h.

  175. Sarcasm, Blitz. I’m not entirely sure about Pablo but I know I for one am courting incorrigible curmudgeonhood. Well, I am kinda sure about Pablo…

    Actually, I plan to go mainstream. Everything is relative, ain’t it? Depending on where you are…

  176. I’m more than happy to declare to the world that Alex Jones is a lunatic. What lefty will say the same of Tingles?

  177. Yes, a very sad time. More so because many people are soon to learn just how stupidly easy it is to pull a stunt like this.

    The government could ban just about everything imaginable and any yahoo with half a brain could still cook up pounds of their own blasting powder. There is just no way to control things as simple as charcoal, sulfur, and potassium (or sodium) nitrate.

    Pick your target then add in a lost, stolen, or burner cell phone and up it all goes.

  178. Nuts to say the Feds had anything to do with this on the front side.. but I wouldn’t put it past Obama’s handlers to try to pin this operation – if it begins to look embarrassing (say, a terrorist crossing the open Arizona – Sonora border) – on an individual belonging to a group not of their traveling circus.

  179. Heard on the radio on my drive home that 5 unexploded devices were found around Boston.

    Brings the total to 7.

    This ain’t one “Lone Wolf”

  180. There’s just not a lot of international political hay to make of a marathon, in Boston of all places. 9/11′s targets were spectacular and established. This? speaks of some foreign exchange student – runner, perhaps disqualified for doping, taking a few internet courses in bomb making and getting past the cops and the bomb-sniffers. There’s really nothing here that’s expertly planned.

  181. I’m hearing 5, including the two that exploded. 24 hour rule on all of it, I think. See Newtown.

  182. If there were 5 unexploded of 7, then this operation, from a ‘terrorist’ pov, was a spectacular failure.

    But the backside might just prove a boon to Bammy, he plays his cards just right.

  183. 24 hour rule on all of it, I think.

    Just to repeat that.

  184. serr8d, I’m seeing some relatively unsophisticated assholes looking for maximum impact. I’m agreeable with the foreign exchange student thesis, but I’m not discounting the possibility of jihad.

  185. 24 hour rule on the what’s-already-happened. Speculating as to how BHO profits, priceless.

  186. Just to repeat that.

    Except for the part where Occupy did this. That’s pretty much an incontrovertible fact by now.

  187. Well, of course, some things are just obvious, Pablo.

  188. serr8d

    there’s over 100 injured some critically. If you examine how the Pal-terrorists have worked in Israel, it is better to leave live, maimed victims than to just kill. Even the two bombs blew limbs off, shrapnel propelled at knee level.

    Those that recover will be walking reminders.

    Not quite fail at all, especially as with each discovered people start wondering “how many are still out there?”

  189. And if it is discovered that some jihadist cell, homegrown or not, is behind this, will Obama have a mom or dad of a victim give his weekly address?

  190. ‘Unsophisticated’, or ‘planned to look unsophisticated’. That’s the False Flag Alex Jones dead end that leads to madness.

    ‘International’, or ‘International, but made to seem homegrown’. There’s the future history Bammy’s Ayers-Alinsky team is drooling over, perhaps only in their waking dreams.

    We’ll see what tidbits are leaked as time passes. The Saudi National line seems to be dessicated already.

    What Bammy’s wanting is, instead of this becoming a distraction to his gun control grave-dancing, that this will somehow enhance that jig.

  191. And if it is discovered that some jihadist cell, homegrown or not, is behind this, will Obama have a mom or dad of a victim give his weekly address?

    Or will it be Athletic Event Violence?

  192. Needless to say, but “I question the timing.”

    Not that I’ve any particular reason to, mind you. But after hearing the phrase whenever anything happened — good or bad — during the Bush admin, seems only fitting.

    Also: hopefully this won’t turn out to be a spectacularly horrific attempt at “viral marketing” for Aqua Teen Hunger Force

  193. Even the video of the blast can help identify what kind of bomb it is—or in the case of Boston, confirm that the bombs that detonated were the same that went off. “Generally, white smoke means a commercial explosion or improvised device,” he says. A common chemical used in these bombs, in the United States and abroad, is acetone peroxide (TATP). It comes in a white powder and blooms in a white cloud when it explodes. In Boston, the initial images seem to show white smoke blossoming at the moment of explosion.

    Industrial and military explosives emit black smoke, Thurman says.

    Bomb-Blast Forensics: The First Steps

  194. He cautions not to be too hasty in assessing blame. “Let the evidence direct us,” he says. “We need to have an open mind. This could have been anybody.”

    Somebody tattoo that on Alex Jones’ forehead?

  195. On this day in 1865, President Lincoln died of wounds received the night before at the hand of John Wilkes Booth while attending the comedy “Our American Cousin” at Ford’s Theater in Washington, D.C.

  196. My son asked what the difference was between authentic versus inauthentic terrorism. He answered himself by suggesting authentic terrorists had a sponser. “This bombing brought to you by Verizon.”

    I think I’m rubbing off on him.

  197. Also on this day…the Titanic sink, Greta Garbo dies, Pol Pot dies, Jeffrey Archer is born, and (eureka!)

    On April 15, 1947, 28-year-old Jackie Robinson made his Major League Baseball debut with the Dodgers, against the Boston Braves, in front of more than 25,000 spectators at Ebbets Field in Brooklyn, New York. Robinson played first base and went zero for three at the plate.

    So. This act was perpetrated by Brooklyn Dodgers fans against Boston, for not allowing Jackie Robinson to get a hit.

  198. I blame the film industry. They’ve been making bombs and getting away with it for over 100 years.

  199. The race honored the victims of the Newtown, Conn., shooting with a special mile marker in Monday’s race.

    Boston Athletic Association president Joanne Flaminio previously said there was “special significance” to the fact that the race is 26.2 miles long and 26 people died at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

    Relatives of the victims of December’s school massacre in Newtown, Conn. were among those attending the race finish at a VIP area. It was not known of any of the relatives were among the casualties.

  200. I tried to tune out by watching the Defiance pilot on Sy-fy. So far I am not impressed.

  201. I expect some real news on this by Friday. Right now it’s Shep smith and company telling us about 9/11 a lot ( I guess they think we forgot all about it in 12 years) and sort of cutting back to the Boston marathon bombing occasionally because they have very little actual information to report at this point.

  202. Been a while since 9/11; Jones must needs more sweet, sweet truther ca$h.

    He can always try hitting up David Ickes and the lizard people nuts. They’ll believe anything.

  203. A terrorist cell just proved that Obama creates terrorists through his indiscriminate killing of terrorists and civilians by drone strikes.

    Either that, or the terrorists know that President Obama is a pussy and unwilling to name a terrorist act, if it turns out it was committed by Islamic fascists.

  204. Krauthammer

    And I think that is sort of a historical echo that we’re feeling and it reminds us of how vulnerable we felt at the beginning of this whole decade of terror. And that even though, we thought that we had largely escaped, and we have largely escaped, it is still out there.

    Miss me yet ?

  205. Apropos of nothing, I’m sure we’ll find no problems with a nuclear Iran.

  206. What I can hardly wait for is the President and his men to start making political hay from the attack. Going after the terrorists is probably a secondary consideration.

  207. Odds are you do him an unintentional kindness by saying it would be a secondary consideration.

  208. I wonder what advice Bill Ayers will offer his friend after a bombing attack.

  209. My money’s on “workplace violence” as the root cause. Especially if the perpetrator was yelling “Allah Akbar!” While setting off the charges.

  210. From this by someone who was right there:

    Part of that fear was the smell from the smoke billowing in the air, he said.

    “There was a sulfur smell,” Stevenson said.

    And the white smoke I’d suspect that these were black powder pipe bombs.

  211. If a white guy had done it, he’d have been instantly branded a right-wing nutter. As it was a guy of evidently Arab extraction, it certainly has nothing to do with Islam. You bigots.

    Ok, this was prematurely conclusion-jumping. But as a thought experiment, it still works pretty well IMHO.

  212. I wonder what advice Bill Ayers will offer his friend after a bombing attack.

    “Better find a new girlfriend.”

  213. Boston Athletic Association president Joanne Flaminio previously said there was “special significance” to the fact that the race is 26.2 miles long and 26 people died at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

    Yes of course: the “special significance” of sheer, unadulterated coincidence.

    In America the Kleptocracy, random superstition is the official religion. Who was it that said the danger is not that people will believe nothing, but that they will believe anything?

  214. I thought Marathons were 26 miles because that’s how far Pheidippides ran to tell Athens of the Persian defeat at the battle on the plain of Marathon, and then he dropped dead of exhaustion.

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  216. Well, obviously that’s wrong. He was shot with an automatic rifle containing high-capacity ammunition.

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