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If you believe in God, the US Army teaches you are an ‘extremist’ [Darleen Click] UPDATED

Catholics, Evangelicals are just the same as Hamas, Al Qaeda and the KKK.

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A U.S. Army training instructor listed Evangelical Christianity and Catholicism as examples of religious extremism along with Al Qaeda and Hamas during a briefing with an Army Reserve unit based in Pennsylvania, Fox News has learned. […]

The incident occurred during an Army Reserve Equal Opportunity training brief on extremism. Topping the list is Evangelical Christianity. Other organizations listed included Catholicism, Al Qaeda, Hamas, the Ku Klux Klan, Sunni Muslims, and Nation of Islam.

The military also listed “Islamophobia” as a form of religious extremism.

Cue the backpedaling disavowel …

Army spokesman George Wright told Fox News that this was an “isolated incident not condoned by the Dept. of the Army.”

“This slide was not produced by the Army and certainly does not reflect our policy or doctrine,” he said. “It was produced by an individual without anyone in the chain of command’s knowledge or permission.”

Wright said after the complaint was lodged, the presenter deleted the slide, and apologized.

“We consider the matter closed,” he said.

Of course he does.

The US Military is the latest institution that is now being shaped and used by Leftists for social change. And since BigNannyGovernment is to be God/Parent/Spouse, then all other social institutions must serve it or be eliminated.

Not all at once and not directly, but by the ever-helpful nudging people in the correct direction by ridiculing, demonizing or dismissing the religious in contemporary society and Bowdlerizing American history of its religious heritage.

Of course, using the law to harass religious institutions out of charity work helps this along, too.

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UPDATED More details from Daily Mail

The presentation also warned that members of the military are prohibited from taking leadership roles in any organization the Pentagon considers ‘extremist,’ and from distributing the organization’s literature, whether on or off a military installation.

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Well, now, no more volunteering to feed the hungry at Thanksgiving if it’s being done by the local Catholic church!

48 Replies to “If you believe in God, the US Army teaches you are an ‘extremist’ [Darleen Click] UPDATED”

  1. leigh says:

    Awesome. I’m on several lists as an extremist now.

    How cool is that?

  2. happyfeet says:

    hopefully not too many soldiers saw this powerpoint slide and we can get to the ones who did in time

  3. sdferr says:

    Backpedaling? I don’t see backpedaling, especially since it says right there “Those soldiers who were presented this material – they need to have a new briefing with corrected materials,” Crews said. “They need to undo the damage that was done.” The whole notion that a “subject matter expert” is all that’s required is still held front and center, with the only apparent change what the “subject matter expert” is willing to spout.

  4. Darleen says:

    sdferr

    I don’t believe for a moment that this “expert’s” materials weren’t vetted prior to showing. But suddenly, with the publicity, we get all this “We didn’t know” disavowals.

    Maybe “disavowal” is a better word.

  5. geoffb says:

    “Expert” doesn’t seem to mean what you’d think it meant. More along the line of “presenter of …? whatever is to be presented” now.

  6. Darleen says:

    and leigh, you never had to strap on one bomb vest to get there!

    Though it took Hidal Nissan to murder over six people to be declared a white guy.

  7. sdferr says:

    They’re still treating these grown people like they’re infants in need of hand-holding. fuck that

  8. Silver Whistle says:

    Gott mit uns?

  9. cranky-d says:

    I remember that every Sunday in church we were told that blowing ourselves up was cool as long as we took unbelievers with us.

  10. sdferr says:

    In the swankier churches in Frisco they’re told that blowing unbelievers is cool, so long as careful attention is paid to look out for suppurating lesions.

  11. Libby says:

    Stupid question: is the KKK still in operation? I can’t recall hearing about a KKK incident occurring in the past few decades. The few Christian-attributed acts of terrorism – Atlanta abortion clinic bombing & abortion doctor murders – were neither sponsored or celebrated by any Christian churches or organizations.
    I would think that more current/pertinent examples would be the Westboro Baptist “church” and the ELF/PETA activists. (Note: Neither of these organizations are Christian).

    I have no doubt that this training was influences by CAIR.

  12. happyfeet says:

    the kkk just marched a week or so ago in justin timberlake’s hometown

  13. Silver Whistle says:

    Libby, they had a rally in Memphis in March.

  14. Libby says:

    Thanks, HF. So why aren’t they on the list? I’d think the KKK is more menacing than Mormons and Evangelicals, both groups whose biggest threat to us seems to be persistence in proselytizing. Can be uncomfortable or a little annoying, but definitely not dangerous.

  15. leigh says:

    Libby , they are on the list. There are rumored to be Klansmen in Joplin, but I’ve never seen them.

  16. Libby says:

    Argh! Didn’t see them in the middle of the list there.
    Still think they’re muddying the water with generic references to Christian Identity, Evangelicals, Mormons and Catholics.

  17. happyfeet says:

    it’s a stupid list what mostly served to alert the soldiers that they were being lectured to by a goddamn moron

  18. leigh says:

    Yes, they are muddying the waters. The authors of this text are also civilian employees and not regular Army. Probably part of the Obama-creep faction of infiltrating every aspect of our lives for our own good!

  19. happyfeet says:

    plus they misspelled mormonism

  20. beemoe says:

    Maybe the militants can’t spell.

  21. leigh says:

    Pagans aren’t on that list. One of my friends is a pagan (I don’t know anything about it) and they raised a big stink a few years back until they got a medal with their pagan symbol on it (it looks sort of like a pentagram) for some award to Pagans in Combat.

    I wonder how much it cost to design, make the molds and strike a dozen or so of the things? The Army isn’t exactly crawling with pagans.

  22. beemoe says:

    The Army isn’t exactly crawling with pagans.

    I’ll bet Darleen could find some.

  23. leigh says:

    Ah, BMoe. You trouble-maker, you. ; )

  24. happyfeet says:

    So if the presenter was not an expert, what were they doing presenting the material, Crews asked.

    He said he had a chance to speak with the officer who conducted the briefing and she told him that she got her information from the Southern Poverty Law Center.

    “Why is there such dependence upon the work of the SPLC to determine hate groups and extremist groups,” Crews said. “It appears that some military entities are using definitions of ‘hate’ and ‘extreme’ from the lists of anti-Christian political organizations. That violates the apolitical stance appropriate for the military.”

    But Mark Potok, a spokesman for the Southern Poverty Law Center, told Fox News they did not provide the military with any list about religious extremism.

    “It’s emphatically – 100 percent false,” Potok said.

    He said the SPLC has never labeled Evangelical Christianity or Catholicism as extremist groups.

    what you do find at the weirdo SPLC website is this:

    Radical Traditional Catholicism

    “Radical traditionalist” Catholics, who may make up the largest single group of serious anti-Semites in America, subscribe to an ideology that is rejected by the Vatican and some 70 million mainstream American Catholics.

    so apparently yeah some dimbulb relied on the SPLC propaganda sluts and that is where this list came from

  25. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Just skimming so far, but “‘Radical traditionalist’?” Really?

    Oxymoron much, SPLC?

  26. leigh says:

    Morris Dees: struggling to stay relevant.

  27. Libby says:

    That is such a strange list because it mixes generic religious denominations with religion-based activist/terrorist organizations. It mentions Sunni Muslims but not Shiite Muslims (and what about the Taliban?). It mentions Catholics, Mormons, and Evangelicals – what about all of the other denominations? From a threat standpoint, the Westboro Baptists stir up a lot more trouble (e.g. protesting military funerals) than any of the denominations they mentioned.
    Then there’s “Islamaphobia” down there with no country or religion specified. Why does this merit mention without also including Anti-Semitism, Anti-Christianity, and the Maoists who harass Buddhists?

  28. leigh says:

    Notice it is only American Catholics who are to be feared. Nevermind that there are over a billion of us around the globe.

  29. Darleen says:

    Geez, beemoe, as long as the pagans serve the interests of marginalizing mainstream ethical monotheism, they’ll never make the ‘extremist’ list.

  30. beemoe says:

    Monotheism is a loser anyway. Its obvious the world was designed by a committee.

  31. But their PowerPoint presentations were infallible!

  32. EBL says:

    Until we pull the collective government head out of its collective Government ass, we are not going to make any progress.

  33. palaeomerus says:

    They forgot NeoMalhtusians, Single Payer Health Care System proponents, Centralized Command Economists, and Anthropogenic Climate Change Scientists in that list.

  34. happyfeet says:

    they must be putting them in order of most to least worrisome

  35. palaeomerus says:

    Fainting couch joke.

  36. Bones says:

    Sweet!

    I’m on so many lists, I’m going to need a list of all my lists!

  37. dicentra says:

    Morman.

    Cripes.

  38. BornRed says:

    Darleen,

    Can I buy a “disavowel,” please?

    Sorry, but these things just jump out at me…

  39. Scott Hinckley says:

    My wife is an Evangelical Christian – I always thought she wasn’t to be trusted (I was thinking about power tools, but who knew she was a terrorist?).

    Do I get to keep my guns if I turn her in?

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  41. RI Red says:

    I wonder how many more “enemies lists” are floating around in other government offices?

  42. RI Red says:

    And are they spelling my name correctly?

  43. guinspen says:

    Who’d know how to spell it out?

    Ethel Mermon, that’s who.

  44. guinspen says:

    Spell the collective “it,” that is.

  45. Parker says:

    I think this is indicative of a problem – but I don’t think one low-ranking idiot with PowerPoint and a class slot to fill should necessarily be taken as the official position of the U.S. Army.

    I worked in a post headquarters once, and was unwise enough to converse with a reporter who called.

    As a young lieutenant I was surprised to learn that my opinion that the Army did not purposefully communicate in an unclear manner was the official position of my whole branch of service.

    But it got into the paper, so it must have been true.

    If I had only known, I would have promulgated a few more bits of policy while I had the chance…

  46. dicentra says:

    The fact that someone felt that it was OK to put this dreck into print is a big red flag.

  47. leigh says:

    Di, I thought that was spelled Marmon?

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