January 28, 2013

“San Diego Chief of Police: We Can Disarm America ‘Within a Generation'”

As Ace rightly notes, “as the goal is admitted, let us have no more discussion of these ridiculous diversions.”

It’s not your folding stocks or flash suppressors or bayonet lugs they’re after: it’s your ability to remind them that you are free people, and that their power is contingent on you.

And would-be aristocrats grow weary of such presumptions from the riff raff, particularly those they imagine in a cabin somewhere eating possum stew off of the tits of their first cousins.

(h/t newrouter)

Posted by Jeff G. @ 2:21pm
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  1. And would-be aristocrats grow weary of such presumptions from the riff raff.

    Tough shit, would-be aristos. We’re gonna keep reminding you.

    (And at least when I eat off the tits of my first cousin, it’s a female first cousin, and not cousin Mortimer’s man-boobs. NTTAWWT.)

  2. I wish San Diego would re-assert its conservative roots. The place has been going downhill the last 25 years.

    When I first moved away, I planned to move back. That would only happen now for a few very specific reasons, and I would be constantly prepared to leave again. The weather is awesome, but the politics of the place are terrible.

  3. This must have happened when I moved to PA 22 years ago, around the time that you bugged out, cranky.

    McGehee and Pablo also left somewhere around there, give or take a few years.

    We must have created a conservative vacuum.

  4. why would some pension whore flunky in san diego care about disarming the whole goddamn american people?

    grandiose little fuck

  5. plus san diego does not have nearly as good mexican food as it seems to think

    not nearly at all – they’re quite deluded

  6. Whose generation? Does he have kids?

  7. “San Diego Chief of Police: We Can Disarm America ‘Within a Generation’”

    Just try it, you son of a bitch.

  8. Nice to see at least one law enforcement advocacy group siding with the populace:

    LEAA on MSNBC – Calling on NY City Mayor to finally support self-defense

  9. (And at least when I eat off the tits of my first cousin, it’s a female first cousin, and not cousin Mortimer’s man-boobs. NTTAWWT.)

    Oh, I think you could make the case that there IS something wrong with that.

    Something deeply wrong.

  10. “You first, Chief”

    If I was one of his cops, I’d be damn nervous.

  11. “We broke the NRA,” Lansdowne boasted in an off camera portion of an interview with San Diego 6 and the Washington Guardian. When asked to expound, he demurred.

    I hate conspiracy theories. Most conspiracies are completely unworkable as posited.

    That said, I’m deeply, deeply suspicious of the most recent mass shootings. We’ve got Obama in the last debate saying he wants to reinstate the AWB. Feinstein just happens to have a bill almost ready to go when Sandy Hook goes down.

    Fishy as red snapper, is all I’m saying.

  12. why would some pension whore flunky in san diego care about disarming the whole goddamn american people?

    ‘Cuz he’s not alone, and the feds are preparing for martial law. Right out in front of everyone.

    At this point, I’m not sure what to worry about more. A terrorist attack with WMD, or the governments response to it’s own citizens after. I mean, 9/11 gave us the DHS, the TSA, and a whole re-imagining of FEMA. We’re only a breath away from martial law now.

  13. Yeah.

    Shame we don’t have a GOP candidate with the vision to roll back the alphabet soup worth of liberty encroaching bureaucracies. Start with Homeland Security.

  14. Feinstein just happens to have a bill almost ready to go when Sandy Hook goes down.

    You call that thing a bill?

  15. I mean, 9/11 gave us the DHS, the TSA, and a whole re-imagining of FEMA. We’re only a breath away from martial law now.

    And here I thought I was only feeling this way because I’ve been playing too much Deus Ex lately…

  16. I’m just a bill.
    Yes, I’m only a bill.
    And I’m sitting here on Capitol Hill.

  17. I’m deeply, deeply suspicious of the most recent mass shootings.

    What is really troubling is it’s not unreasonable to think that way. We KNOW we are being lied to regularly, and mass media is using propaganda to engineer perception, and therefore reality. The only question is, how much?

    With this bunch, I think the safe bet is on; a lot.

  18. You call that thing a bill?

    a bill of attainder

  19. I was loath to post this before, but there’s plenty about Sandy Hook to make one suspicious.

    So here:

    http://youtu.be/Wx9GxXYKx_8

    http://youtu.be/_nUOBSN03TU

    http://youtu.be/mtp_A4Q_EAg

  20. Also, Lanza was dead a day before the shooting, if you can believe this: http://youtu.be/3RnNkTulzM4

  21. An early witness caught rehearsing lines: http://youtu.be/igfczc6m5M4

  22. More stuff too terrible to contemplate.

    Just a general observation there, not a criticism of anything or anyone.

  23. Dude, I strongly doubt you idiots have disarmed the UK or Canada half so well as you’d like to think you have. Hell, you outlawed murder and theft and yet there it is still waving to you from the street corner.

  24. I’d love to be able to poo-poo the strange conspiracy notes around Newtown but unfortunately I recently saw how Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and the Trayvon/Zimmerman shooting case were played in the press and it is clear that no real investigation of any kind ever goes on anymore before the stories go out and in fact producers will trim audio to make something APPEAR to have happened. Anything at all could be bullshit yet passed off as true by the PR huddle that has finally replaced the already highly suspect press. Scary times.

  25. baracky can leave babies die and ambassadors too. he be evil wearing mom jeans.

  26. I still can’t get any solid confirmation on what weapons were used at Newtown and whether the freaky murder-boy’s mother ever actually worked at the school.

  27. Something obviously stinks about the reporting on Sandy Hook. Too bad the only people who will end up digging into it will be labeled as wackos.

  28. The best actual revelation of facts regarding events like the Sandy Hook slaughters (or the Aurora movie murders) will only come as court documents (in the case of Sandy Hook) following law suits and the like, since the immediate wrongdoer is dead, come to light. And even in that case, the erosion of trust in the processes of justice have been instructing us to mistrust what is revealed.

  29. The fact that we [and I include myself] think these things are possible and we have Right Reason on our side when we do, is another sign of the triumph of Leftism in America.

    One of the main Leftist tactics is to sow Chaos, with the purpose of taking advantage of that to move forward with various of their schemes – we’re so busy trying to make sense of things that we don’t notice what they’re doing or, if we do, they provide another distraction as soon as possible to divert our attention.

    The Left is bombarding us from every angle with the hope that we won’t be able to regroup and mount an effective counter-attack.

  30. It’s the same thing that always stinks about reporting cranky.

    That is, reporters.

  31. Glenn Beck did a debunk show last Thursday. I haven’t seen it, nor have I seen the YouTube vids.

    I don’t believe it was a false-flag op. A family that Beck has known for years (from when he lived in CT) lost a niece.

    It’s one thing to suspect that people who come forward could be actors; it’s quite another when it happens to someone you already know.

  32. Something obviously stinks about the reporting on Sandy Hook.

    As opposed to reporting on what, now?

  33. It’s one thing to suspect that people who come forward could be actors; it’s quite another when it happens to someone you already know.

    well dead children tell no tales while “eyewitnesses” haven’t that problem

  34. i like how di fi had her bill ready togo like baracky care

  35. As the old saying goes, “If you’re not paranoid, you’re not paying attention”. These so called ” common sense gun laws” are not intended to reduce crime or the chance of another Sandy Hook from occuring. They are incremental steps to disarm the citizenery and gut the Second Amendment. It’s all about people control and not gun control.

  36. Di Fi’s probably had a bill ready to go since 1994, complete with regular reviews and revisions.

  37. That’s been true since the Sullivan Act, ironpacker.

  38. What Ernst said.

    The Left is an opportunistic infection; they’ve been concocting their venom for ages, storing it up for when the time is ripe.

    Given that school shootings happen every so often, they rightly wagered that at least once during Obama’s reign some nutjob would create enough carnage to stir up strong emotions.

    Take a look in their filing cabinet you’ll find plenty more ready-to-go bills and proposals that await the right “crisis” for their unveiling.

  39. “If you’re not paranoid, you’re not paying attention”. These so called ” common sense gun laws” are not intended to reduce crime or the chance of another Sandy Hook from occuring.

    that’s why orangeman should have gun control hearings in chicago

  40. There’s never a happy ending for any society that lets itself be disarmed.

  41. what fun to make the gun grabbers live up to their values in chitown. do some alinsky brain dead gop.

  42. Glenn Beck did a debunk show last Thursday. I haven’t seen it, nor have I seen the YouTube vids.

    I don’t believe it was a false-flag op. A family that Beck has known for years (from when he lived in CT) lost a niece.

    It’s one thing to suspect that people who come forward could be actors; it’s quite another when it happens to someone you already know.

    Have you looked at some of the evidence? No one is saying no one died. What they’re saying is that certain things are problematic, from books on how to talk to kids about SH being published before the day of the shooting to victim pages created in advance on facebook.

    Also, there’s raw footage of police removing the rifle from the trunk of the car Lanza supposedly drove (supposedly his mother’s, but whose license plate tracks to a criminal); are we to believe Lanza left the school to put the rifle away but left a number of handguns lying around?

    Where is the footage of a mass evacuation? Where is the footage of Lanza entering the school (the school has security cams)?

    Why are some of the people who were interviewed as parents not, but rather out of state actors?

    I have questions. And “Glenn Beck had a niece” does nothing to dispel them. To me, that’s irrelevant.

  43. Why do I think things are going asymptotic?

  44. I still can’t get any solid confirmation on what weapons were used at Newtown and whether the freaky murder-boy’s mother ever actually worked at the school.

    The State Police rebutted the NBC report and say that all of the victims were shot with the Bushmaster. Lanza killed himself with a pistol. The weapon in the trunk of the car was a shotgun. The mother volunteered at the school, but did not work there.

    I’d still like to see a police report.

  45. The State Police rebutted the NBC report

    if i had son he be trayvon – baracky

  46. Why do I think things are going asymptotic?

    yes on graph paper, real world not so much.

  47. Is it okay that I really like the movie “His Girl Friday?”

    Though, if that’s how reporting really goes, it’s no wonder reporters cannot be trusted.

  48. The State Police rebutted the NBC report and say that all of the victims were shot with the Bushmaster.

    That’s what the ME said, as well. I only saw a still, not video. In the video it looks maybe like a Saiga?

  49. I’d still like to see a police report.

    Me too. I’ve seen the evidence of a photoshop job on that one family pic and it’s compelling.

  50. I love it too. And Hecht and MacArthur were both Chicago reporters, so….

  51. Jeff a quick google search popped this up:

    Sandy Hook Massacre Timeline Alex Jones’ Infowars: There’s a war …
    http://www.infowars.com/sandy-hook-massacre-timeline/Cached
    Jan 11, 2013 … 91 Responses to “Sandy Hook Massacre Timeline”. Anonymous … That is not a rifle, its a saiga 12 ga shotgun with a thumbhole stock. But why …

  52. I have questions. And “Glenn Beck had a niece” does nothing to dispel them. To me, that’s irrelevant.

    I was going to say that.

    Line up the photos of the the Gifford’s shooter, the Aurora shooter, and the Sandy Hook shooter, and I’m sure you will see certain similarities. All three are obviously not of sound mind.

    Now, compare media reaction between the three events. Obviously, all three instances reveal a common theme.

    Opportunism rather than planning? Probably. But if you found out they were planned, would you have a hard time believing it?

    I wouldn’t, and THAT is disturbing. Now I know how the truthers and birthers feel, though for myself, I’ll make no declarative statements without proof…

  53. There’s video of the gun coming from the trunk in my last link. Here.

  54. The whole “supposed dead girl who ended up on the president’s lap a few days later” thing really bugs me. They think we are very, very stupid.

  55. It’s definitely not a Bushmaster. Dude is not working a charging handle.

  56. The whole “supposed dead girl who ended up on the president’s lap a few days later” thing really bugs me. They think we are very, very stupid.

    That’s her sister.

  57. Someone screwed up in one of the videos I watched, then.

  58. I think we are getting distracted with bayonet lugs, magazine capacity, weapons in trunks, etc. It’s all about the end-game – confiscation. Demonstrations at state capitols on February 8. Watch out for false flags, is all I can say. They are looking for an excuse to really clamp down. I am heart sick.

  59. What about this ‘retired psychologist’ fellow? He gave refuge to a bunch of crying six year olds who ended up in his driveway—–how? They got off a bus no one saw? The school was on lock-down, no one was going anywhere. He gets all emotive on teevee, but is a just-the-facts guy in interviews.

    I’m calling actor. His whole story is bullshit, imho.

  60. I think we are getting distracted with bayonet lugs, magazine capacity, weapons in trunks, etc. It’s all about the end-game – confiscation.

    Yes.

  61. I thought I read one teacher was shoving kids out a classroom window leigh.

    But maybe after the fact I read that shoving kids out of classroom windows would be a damn sight more effective than hiding in a corner, and I’m conflating two things.

  62. That’s her sister.

    true. but i be trayvoned.

  63. That’s possible Ernst. There was so much misinformation flying around for so long that I really stopped paying attention to it and braced myself for the grandstanding.

    I still think the ‘shrink’ is a fake or at the least an embroidery artist. You know, a bullshitter.

  64. the police were 2 miles away why the delay?

  65. There are some Minnesota gun control bills that may be introduced soon, according to the NRA. I’m quite excited.

  66. also who exactly claimed the body of the shooter?

  67. According to one video, leigh, the guy you think is an actor is a member of SAG.

  68. I knew it. Thanks, cranky.

  69. There are some Minnesota gun control bills that may be introduced soon

    the opposition should rent rooms in illinios, like dem pols from wi, and have hearings.

  70. also who exactly claimed the body of the shooter?

    His father.

  71. You guys need to back away from the keyboards for a bit if you are starting to take Alex Jones seriously.

    The dude makes Michael Moore look legitimate.

  72. I also want to see the police report including witness statements and diagrams of the scene and the MEs report complete with notes and diagrams (pictures are pretty gory for most).

    And a pony.

  73. Alex Jones is an idiot.

    There are just an awfully lot of questions about this incident that don’t add up to me and my suspicious nature.

  74. Alex Jones? Perfectly sane. Or something.

  75. The reporting on this has been horrific, like I’ve never seen before. Which I noted at the time, here.

  76. You guys need to back away from the keyboards for a bit if you are starting to take Alex Jones seriously.

    The dude makes Michael Moore look legitimate.

    Just because he is involved doesn’t mean there isn’t a story here. If all it takes to stop us from investigating something is having a nutjob being associated with the investigation, we have lost.

  77. He could be a plant.

  78. (CNN) — The father of Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter Adam Lanza claimed his body last week, a family spokesman said.

    Peter Lanza claimed the body Thursday, spokesman Errol Cockfield said. He declined to specify where the body would be buried.

    yea do we have documents attesting to that. or spokespeeps the end all

  79. He could be a plant.

    after baracky’s “son died” eff the proggtard media

  80. We are just getting into no jews showed up for work at the WTC on 9/11 and fire don’t melt steel territory.

  81. Weird coincidence.

    The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested.

    link

  82. Weird coincidence.

    The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested.

    yea do we have documents attesting to that. or spokespeeps the end all

    No, right?

  83. We are just getting into no jews showed up for work at the WTC on 9/11 and fire don’t melt steel territory.

    more like defining “white hispanics”. heat weakens steel and jews were killed

  84. yea do we have documents attesting to that. or spokespeeps the end all

    is it true that: “Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial”

    and:

    ” Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO”?

  85. When a major news event gets mis-reported as badly as this one has, conspiracy theory is ready and eager to fill the void. Sad fact of life #8,563…

  86. The Federal Government’s taking this tragedy and using it to forward it’s current controller’s agendas is, to me, the story. I’d rather battle on that front than be baited into arguing that the tragedy was pre-planned.

    It was pre-planned, in the sense that ‘they’ (the Alinksyite in Chief, and his well-trained henchmen) had the mechanisms to best make use of any tragedy involving a madman shooter already in place. And they executed it flawlessly, with very little (if any) opposition from the weak (R) side.

  87. and if true how is it their sons do mass murder months apart?

  88. Both of those companies employee thousands of employees. I say it’s an artifact in the data set.

  89. and gabby giffords shooter: why don’t we hear of his background? a little “tea party” would explode that story.

  90. Both of those companies employee thousands of employees.

    of course check the janitors not the senior peeps. timmy geightner says: thanks for the goldman sacks.

  91. these chitown thugs want to take us down.

  92. nr, when you are searching for answers it is best to look for horses and not zebras.

  93. Journalists did not determine if Randy Loughner worked outside the house.

    hard working sleuths i say

  94. when you are searching for answers it is best to look for horses and not zebras.

    just lookin’ for the truth

  95. Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial

    That bastard’s name needs be on every blog in the country. What kind of father leaves his son with an ex-wife, who by herself had no effective means to control the kid’s progression to madness? Peter Lanza is as bad as Adam Lanza AFAIC, in the sense that this tragedy sprouted from his loins, and on his watch. Peter Lanza abandoned his son, and should share a heaping helping of the blame for all of this.

  96. Journalists did not determine if Randy Loughner worked outside the house.

    they “do know” about sarah palins’ woman parts

  97. What kind of father leaves his son with an ex-wife, who by herself had no effective means to control the kid’s progression to madness?

    GE/General Electric – We Bring Good Things To Life

  98. Ma Lanza was in the lengthy and time-consuming, by CT law, process of getting Sonny committed.

    Dad would have faced the same obstacles. Although I do agree that he’s a POS.

  99. Dad would have faced the same obstacles.

    he be in the big bankers club with timmy, baracky, schumer, dodd, frank, et al. they don’t do suicide at that level. find the fall guy.

  100. find the fall guy.

    rockford files

  101. Was dad supposed to kidnap his son? They throw dads in prison for that you know.

  102. You are getting distracted, guys and gal.

  103. If only life were like The Rockford Files. But it ain’t.

  104. Nah, it’s just a conversation, Red.

    It’s all about the confiscation, as you said upthread.

  105. ” a little “tea party” would explode that story.”

    Yeah, the original spin was that he was a “Tea Partier”, until that embarrassing factoid about one of his favorite books being The Communist Manifesto came to light.

  106. If only life were like The Rockford Files.

    more like
    The Sting

    very chitown i hear

  107. is it true that: “Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial”

    and:

    ” Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO”?

    Is it true that…

    Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal.

    Not to my knowledge. Do you know different? Are there even scheduled hearings?

  108. Ma Lanza was in the lengthy and time-consuming, by CT law, process of getting Sonny committed.

    And yet she left him access to her weapons. Mommy fail.

  109. And yet she left him access to her weapons. Mommy fail.

    perhaps more data needed

  110. Shitty parenting abounds in the Lanza household. Or it did.

  111. Shitty parenting abounds in the Lanza household.

    really? who decides such matters?

  112. You guys need to back away from the keyboards for a bit if you are starting to take Alex Jones seriously.
    The dude makes Michael Moore look legitimate.

    Since I’m the one who sullied these pages with the leprous Alex Jones, let me say that my interest in Alex Jones’s website is limited entirely to this anonymous comment:

    That is not a rifle, its a saiga 12 ga shotgun with a thumbhole stock. But why was this never mentioned ANYWHERE. Very weird very very weird.

    And that solely in the context of Jeff’s prior comment.

    I googled to see if anyone else had mentioned a saiga shotgun, and that was the first result in the list that mentioned one.

    Since I’m living a dial-up life in a hi-speed wireless world, I can’t and don’t do streaming video. So I don’t know if that is in fact a saiga shotgun in the video, or if it’s only kooks who frequent Alex Jone’s website who think it to be so.

    I’ll try harder next time.

  113. Since I’m living a dial-up life in a hi-speed wireless world,

    omg. no not that!!11!!

  114. We are just getting into no jews showed up for work at the WTC on 9/11 and fire don’t melt steel territory.

    Better that Arkansas territory.

    Stovall told the group of almost 40 residents that beginning in 2013, the department would deploy a new street crimes unit to high crime areas on foot to take back the streets.

    “[Police are] going to be in SWAT gear and have AR-15s around their neck,” Stovall said. “If you’re out walking, we’re going to stop you, ask why you’re out walking, check for your ID.”

    Stovall said while some people may be offended by the actions of his department, they should not be.

    “We’re going to do it to everybody,” he said. “Criminals don’t like being talked to.”

    Gaskill backed Stovall’s proposed actions during Thursday’s town hall.

    “They may not be doing anything but walking their dog,” he said. “But they’re going to have to prove it.”

  115. My price is a lifetime wireless data account with unlimited downloadingand a new I-Pad everytime Apple releases one. Then it’s a life of surfing the web for German porn for me.

    Because I’m better than Victory Gin!

  116. Obamaphonetablet PC!

  117. a tenant

    My mom called McKeesport and first they said that there was no swat team sent to the house and that if there was te McKeesport police would kno about a swat team raiding a house. Then they told my mom someone must have impursonated a swat team and that I need to hang up and dial 911 and say that people lies about being officers of the law and broke In my house. But then when I called and told 911 what happened they said that yes it was true that a swat was there told me who they were looking for and said they didn’t understand why McKeesport cops wouldn’t kno about a swat In the town. So 911 finally verified that it was official police. Swat team. I been lied to by so many different people just to find out who broke into the house and why. Which spooked me into not staying there anymore. My cat is missing now irreplaceable things got stolen. Not sure if it was this swat team .. You never know or after they left the door wide open someone went in the house and stole my things

  118. Now THIS is funny, I don’t care who you are…

    cash-for-gunsPolice officers in Seattle, Washington held their first gun buyback program in 20 years this weekend, underneath interstate 5, and soon found that private gun collectors were working the large crowd as little makeshift gun shows began dotting the parking lot and sidewalks. Some even had “cash for guns” signs prominently displayed.

    Police stood in awe as gun enthusiasts and collectors waved wads of cash for the guns being held by those standing in line for the buyback program.

    People that had arrived to trade in their weapons for $100 or $200 BuyBack gift cards($100 for handguns, shotguns and rifles, and $200 for assault weapons) soon realized that gun collectors were there and paying top dollar for collectible firearms. So, as the line for the chump cards got longer and longer people began to jump ship and head over to the dealers.

    “Police stood in awe.” Stop it, you’re killing me!

  119. I’m starting to notice a trend

    Army drill scares residents on Houston’s south side

  120. So, if you live in the wrong part of Arkansas the police will be harassing you constantly when in public. Good to know.

  121. Speaking only for myself I find it nearly impossible to even approach these topics. For one, the base level of earned trust from the media and your average official spokesperson are very low. Also, my time to follow up (watch videos, read the variously supplied links… and then think about it all) on any of these things is finite.

    The normal use of Occam’s razor gets tricky. What are the various stories to chose from so as to decide which is the least convoluted? I have no idea. What level of reliability do any of the sources of possible info have? Again, I have no idea.

    I suppose I’m left with my normal vague agnosticism and a regret that so many institutions have purposely squandered their reliability.

  122. In this case, I think there are so many pre-placed agendas between the media, the anti-gun “NGOs” (I mean that in the sinister Stalinist sense, since “advocacy groups” doesn’t capture the true nature) who immediately start working their contacts in media and government, the government people who start reacting to media reports and demands for commentary, also with their own agendas in play, the insatiable appetite of the 24/7/365 news services for information to diseminate, the pro-gun groups and government people who put up with the scapegoating in order to retain access, the media getting burned by “sources,” or straight up lied to by politicians, and putting up with it in order to maintain access, the PR people for all the different people and organizations keeping all those cooperating and conflicting gears greased and functioning instead of binding up and flying apart, it all takes on a surreal quality and it’s easy to believe the whole damn thing was staged, because, other than the shooting and the maiming and the dying and the suffering and the mouring (all of which is quickly set aside), the reaction to and the coverage of the epiphemona, the rest of it, the subtext and the metatext, is in fact staged or perhaps prepackaged.

    Sorry for the stream of consciousness ranting there. But I really don’t know how to clean that up.

  123. STATE POLICE IDENTIFY WEAPONS USED IN SANDY HOOK INVESTIGATION

    In previous press conferences, the Connecticut State Police clearly identified all of the weapons seized from the crime scene at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

    To eliminate any confusion or misinformation, we will again describe and identify the weapons seized at the school crime scene.

    Seized inside the school:

    #1. Bushmaster .223 caliber– model XM15-E2S rifle with high capacity 30 round magazine

    #2. Glock 10 mm handgun

    #3. Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun

    Seized from suspect’s car in parking lot:

    #4. Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun

  124. No such thing as a Canta-12, from what I can see from a lazy google search. But Izmash does manufacture the Saiga-12.

  125. Canta is the Russian for Saiga. So it is a Saiga 12.

  126. That’s funny stuff right there.

  127. I blame Cyrillic

  128. It begins to dawn on Kirsten Powers that she may not in fact be eaten last, but much much sooner, pobrecita.

  129. Getting eaten last is still getting eaten.

  130. He could be a plant.

    I’ve suspected that about Biden, but plants get mad if I say so.

  131. I’m not so sure of that McG, insofar as it may be that the projected time of the last eaten is so far off the prospective meal can believe they will more likely to die of natural or other intervening causes before they’re actually eaten, and so live a long and pleasant life floating along on the political tide, gaining audience and accruing wealth the while. Whereas, in this instance, Ms. Powers appears to see someone coming directly after her place of employment and source of income.

  132. Obama getting ready to casual-shoot a rare ground skeet at Camp David. (Actual photo of Obama posing with a shotgun at Camp David to show that the touch of a gun does not burn him the way holy water burns vampires)

    http://whitehouse.gov1.info/camp-david/camp-david-skeet.jpg

  133. lift with your knees, food stamp

    there you go that’s how you do it

  134. SAIGA = ????? (Which is NOT CANTA but Ehs Ah ee geh Ah )

  135. C – A -backwards capital N – capitalized gamma -A

    Like THIS y’all: (stupid funny fonts turning into interrogatives…)

    http://contrailscience.com/skitch/skitched-20130120-104727.jpg

  136. “I’ve suspected that about Biden, but plants get mad if I say so.”

    Well I’ve never seen him flower so he’s not an angiosperm but I think I can see some fruiting body style spores coming out of the top of his head. I dunno. Could be a parasitic, symbiotic, or commensal growth. Since he’s a democrat I’d go with parasitic because birds of a feather flock together.

    “qui parasititat parasitorum ante erat provincia ?”

    “qui furatur a latronibus”

    “qui sugit VITULAMEN ? ”

    Shit. Experimental layman’s pidgin latin is HARD.

  137. Shit. Experimental MACHINE ASSISTED layman’s pidgin latin is HARD.

  138. it may be that the projected time of the last eaten is so far off the prospective meal can believe they will more likely to die of natural or other intervening causes before they’re actually eaten

    They underestimate Leviathan’s appetite.

  139. Well sure, mistaking is a characteristic left-political design feature.

  140. *And yet she left him access to her weapons. Mommy fail.*

    Yep- more so than any conspiracy, this is a complete fail on the part of a gun owner, who a. should have had her guns secured and b. should have recognized the dangers of a unsecured firearm in a house with an obviously disturbed person.

    Its a shame that instead of trying to ban assault weapons and magazines and whatever else, the Feds don’t shine a spotlight (maybe with an assist from the NRA) on proper gun safety, storage and etiquette, which might actually lead to more gun safety. I’m not saying this lunatic couldn’t have found guns elsewhere but gun safety starts with the gun owner and who knows if his demented brain saw an opportunity, based on his easy access to his mother’s weapons. I don’t even have kids and I have a gun safe (though I sleep with a loaded Beretta well hidden but within easy reach).

  141. “. . . this is a complete fail on the part of a gun owner, who a. should have had her guns secured . . . ”

    We do not know, so far as I have seen, anything of the circumstances regarding the storage of weapons, or how they were obtained by the little murderer. So there is little sense in assuming one thing or another about it.

  142. Jeff, Jeff, Jeff…

    Don’t you know that putting the lie to the official “facts” of the Awful Convenient Tragedy is “unhelpful”?

    You must accept the programming! It’s the rules!

  143. My father had kids (obviously) and a gun safe, and I knew exactly where he kept the key.

    There’s a perfect world, and then there’s the world we really live in.

  144. I think it’s dumb to blame the parents. Obviously it’s Bush’s fault.

  145. I’ve always considered that the press was supposed to be “the people’s”, as the phrase is used in the Constitution, intelligence service. Our spies. The 1st Amendment is there to keep our hireling, to whom we entrust the use of some of our sovereignty, from controlling our intelligence service, just as the 2nd Amendment is to keep their hands off “our” military.

    It is hard enough for any intelligence service to sort out truth or facts when all sources they normally deal with all have their own agendas, biases, but it can be done, mostly, and if seen close up is like looking at sausage being made before you eat it.

    When your service has itself been infiltrated by a power which wishes to push out a certain version of “truth” and/or cause competing versions to be doubted, disinformation will overwhelm information and the S/N ratio goes hyperbolic.

    That any factual information gets out and believed is amazing to me. That it takes work to get it is why the “low-info” voters are the golden ones sought out by those who wish to claim all power, all sovereignty for the government alone.

  146. Matt, that road leads to the ownership of guns being increasingly expensive as the type of required storage becomes more stringent. Raising the cost and lowering the usefulness of gun ownership has been a time proven gun control technique.

    The end of storage requirements passes through having guns being longer to get to than the response time of the police and ends when a benevolent government “offers” to store them for you.

  147. I bought a gun on the 19th, and one of the questions on the application was if I had a gun safe. Apparently, if you don’t, you are required to purchase a trigger lock. When I answered yes, they wanted to know the size and make of my safe.

    I’ve never felt more free…

  148. You’re in the Socialist People’s Republic of Klownifornia, right?

  149. You can bring a previously purchased lock but you must have the sales receipt and they make a copy as proof you have a gun lock. That one caught me by surprise on Sunday.

    Ernst, it’s federal law.

  150. They also have to handout a brochure on keeping guns away from kids.

  151. Yeah. I plan on being among the patriots that rebuild America here, on the rubble of post-Utopia.

  152. I think they asked if there were kids living in the home, but there aren’t.

  153. Damn, I don’t remember going through any of that rigamorole.

  154. I think of the effect on all those who are crowding the stores and gun shows who haven’t purchased a firearm before or haven’t in many years of coming up close and personal with big-brother.guv.

  155. Ernst, it’s federal law.

    When did this happen, geoff? The last handgun I bought was about 5 years ago and they just handed the box to me thanked me for my business.

  156. I’m going to guess it’s something that kicked in on Jan. 1. And I bet it’s part of the unaffordable Obamacare Act.

  157. I’ve never been asked about a safe, and I have picked up a weapon since Jan 1. That said, we require locks with all gun sales, so…

  158. locks with gun sales has been around for a while, I think.

    Ruger thoughtfully provides one with each of their firearms, saving you the trouble.

  159. Every firearm I’ve ever purchased came with a lock.

  160. Hmm. None of mine did. My purse has tiny padlocks for the concealed carry holster, but I don’t use them.

  161. Most manufacturers do, but they’re required in RI, even with used sales.

  162. It’s probably because I live in lawless Injun country, and that.

    No one I know has gun cases either. Display cases, sure.

  163. Every new gun comes with a lock, I’ve heard that is federal law.

    I bought two used rifles and had to either buy a lock or show the lock and the sales receipt to buy them. There was a form that had to be filled out on the back side of the ATF form or stapled to it. I assume it is federal law for any sale by an FFL dealer, though I don’t have the form myself so it could be State level.

  164. The last Ruger I bought came with an extra magazine, a trigger lock plus Master Lock for the case…and a spend shell casing in a little brown envelope.

    That last was, I’m assuming, all about record keeping…

  165. I plan on keeping that lock and receipt in the trunk for any future purchases.

  166. geoffb, it must be state. Or maybe it’s only domestic manufacturer’s must provide a lock. My recent purchase was Turkish gun, and now I’m thinking the guy I bought it from was pretty cool, telling me about the safe thing when he could have just as easily let me believe I had to buy a lock.

  167. Oops, spent shell casing…

  168. I’m not sure if it is the law, but the firearms manufacturers find it prudent to include a locking mechanism with their firearms, perhaps as a sort of due diligence blanket protection against some class action or wrongful death lawsuits.

    I believe that federal law allows for you to carry your weapons in your car through any state — even Illinois — legally with the stipulation that they be in lockable containers with any ammunition stored in separate lockable containers. The federal law doesn’t require the containers to be locked, merely lockable. You may get some aggravation from some authorities in Illinois anyway, but them’s the rules.

  169. You may well be right Lee. It was just a $6 that I didn’t think I’d have to spend. Plus the lock was way too small to do anything on the Mauser trigger guard though it would work for a handgun.

  170. Now that I have thought on this, I did buy a trigger lock for a 9mm that I bought about 34 years ago in California. I didn’t have to, but I did in case someone broke in and stole it while I was at work. I ended up never using it (the lock) though since, like geoff’s pistola, it didn’t fit right and was clumsy to remove.

  171. Thanks Pablo.

  172. Remember that guy what couldn’t get his gun in play when he saw a scary man, then puked on the floor?

    Can you imagine if he would have had to deal with a trigger lock?

    Probably would have shit himself…

  173. A lot of firearms now come with little key locks that will lock up the action. My Taurus 24/7 OSS Tac had one (god rest its drowned soul); as does my wife’s Walther P22.

    Honestly, I don’t use the trigger locks that come with the firearms. When I still had my FNP 45 Tac (god rest it’s drowned, 15+1 soul), I kept it in a small bedside safe. My Taurus I would keep in the underwear drawer, locked with the little key, the key itself kept in the small bedside gun safe (along with the keys to my lock cabinet for my long guns. God rest their drowned souls).

    My primary carry piece, until I have a nice custom leather shoulder rig made for the FNP 45 Tac, in memory of having once owned one (god rest its drowned soul), I keep on me, then at night it goes in my sock drawer next to the bed. I usually keep the safety on it and leave it in double action mode at rest during the evenings, because when I draw it from its holster it turns on a high-lumen strobe and a green laser, which is disorienting to anyone who first sees it, giving me time to release the safety with my thumb and cock the hammer into single action mode. And naturally, I keep one in the chamber.

  174. One in the chamber and extra mags at the ready are de rigueur.

  175. I have a different strategy. I figure the sound of a round being chambered (really no more time consuming than using the safety) and being in the dark gives me the advantage. Unlike an intruder, I can walk through the house in the dark, and I can shoot in it when it’s dark, too.

    Not that I’m judging. The main thing is to have a plan.

  176. I leave the safety off and keep the pipe empty while they’re in the safe. It takes no time to rack the slide and an empty pipe is worthwhile accident insurance. When they’re going to the range, I empty ‘em and put the safety on.

  177. That’s a better plan, Pablo.

  178. Remember that guy what couldn’t get his gun in play when he saw a scary man, then puked on the floor?
    Can you imagine if he would have had to deal with a trigger lock?
    Probably would have shit himself…

    what makes you think he didn’t?

  179. Actually, if you read the whole op-ed. He used to keep a trigger locked on his shotgun before somebody tried to break into his place the first time.

    Keeping the shotgun unloaded in the broom closet by the door was his way of being ready for trouble.

  180. You’d think a guy who is so ill-prepared to protect his woman and his property would move into a building with a doorman.

  181. I leave the safety off and keep the pipe empty while they’re in the safe.

    I don’t even load the magazines in the safe, I have an idea they (the spring that is) will last longer that way. I even rotate my ready magazines with the ones in the safe once in awhile.

    There’s a chance I’m OCD…

  182. The thing about a standard revolver is, any padlock will serve — just pop the cylinder and put the padlock hasp through the frame.

  183. Of course, a single-action cowboy-style wheelgun with a fixed cylinder, or one of those English break-open revolvers, not so much.

  184. My 8 shot .357 from Taurus has a built-in trigger lock. Well, technically it is a hammer-blocking lock.

  185. OK, here’s a different request. I took my wife to Cabela’s recently and she really seemd to like a used Savage 24, .22LR AND 20 gauge shotgun. This is on aloder model Savage no longer makes but they do now make something they call a Savage 42, which is essentially the same thing in a few different calibers.

    Anybody got any experience with these, um, hybrids?

  186. If she likes it, get it for her.

    That’s my marriage policy anyway…

  187. I have an idea they (the spring that is) will last longer that way.

    depends on the design/quality of the spring

    “Elastic limit
    Maximum stress to which a material may be subjected without permanent set.”

    link

  188. If she likes it, get it for her.

    But don’t forget the weekly beatings.

    And after she towels off, remember to thank ‘er for the bruises.

  189. If she likes it, get it for her.

    This doesn’t work at my house. I’ve been wanting that new Jaguar F-9 for months now.

  190. Thing is, it works both ways. I bet if he got a 35 foot power boat, your Jag would be in the garage.

  191. He already has a 22 foot power boat. It’s just not fair!

  192. Not fair? Correct me if I’m wrong; you have a car now, but want a Jag. Isn’t that the situation?

  193. Oh, play along. I was riffing off your saying if your wife likes something, she gets it.

  194. Colin Powell is on O’Reilly right now somehow sounding wishy-washy, snobbish, unengaged, evasive, politically correct, and dim witted all at the same time. He’s big old fat weasel.

    I can’t take this crap. Somebody shoot me. Oh wait. I can change the channel. Never mind.

  195. Ooh! Cartoons! Much better! Take that coyote!

  196. I was riffing off your saying if your wife likes something, she gets it.

    I was clarifying. Otherwise known as playing along.

    I think wedding vows should include something about gooses and ganders…

  197. “Colin Powell is on O’Reilly right now somehow sounding wishy-washy, snobbish, unengaged, evasive, politically correct, and dim witted all at the same time.”

    So…just like every other interview he’s ever given?

  198. True that. I cook all Hubby’s favorite meals for him all the time and don’t get exasperated when he puts ketchup on things it doesn’t belong on. Like sauerkraut.

    I don’t nag, either. Helpful hints don’t count as nagging do they?

  199. If he puts ketchup on a ribeye steak, save yourself some money and buy chuck. He’ll never know.

  200. Nope, he doesn’t do that. That would have been a deal breaker back when we were dating.

  201. Geez…you’re hard.

    Until she met me my wife had only eaten well done steak with some sorta sauce on it. I taught her better, and now she wonders how she could have wasted so much of her life.

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