January 24, 2013

TO BE BANNED!

Demon machines!

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Thankfully, my SCAR — along with all my magazines that hold over 10 rounds — fell into the drink before the evil things turned me into a sudden, shame-filled felon.  So.  Phew!

Posted by Jeff G. @ 12:24pm
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  1. Looks like they missed the M-4. The folks at Windham will be pleased. That there are .22LR’s included is both pathetic and hilarious.

  2. dianne feinstein is what my mom would have called a dippy old broad I think

  3. Sen. Diane Feinstein, D-CA., “The purpose is to dry up the supply of these weapons over time, therefore, there is no sunset on this bill.”

    Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., “This isn’t just a matter of an issue of constitution, it’s an issue of conscience.”

    All done from behind a shield of solid “Newtownium.”

  4. I foresee a lot of weapons sales to the someplace like the Cayman islands. From there, the guns will wind up back in the USA, for sale from shady characters on street corners.

  5. Megyn Kelly, (bless her heart) with wrinkled brow asked upon looking at a chart with pictures of many of these E-vil AR-type weapons said:

    “Are any of these rifles?”

    I’m going to go lie down.

  6. Looks like they missed the M-4

    This is just an opening bid, they will raise it constantly. Their ratchet only goes one direction.

    My personal opening bid would be to repeal GCA-68, totally.

  7. ’68 hell, repeal it back to NFA-’34 – I WANT MY M1919A4!

  8. Henceforth, instead of names like “AR-15″ and “AK-47″, guns should be given names like “Catcher in the Rye”, “To Kill a Mockingbird”, and “Tropic of Cancer”. Just to add the delicious irony when they’re banned.

  9. “Senator, there’s a group of angry people here who are demanding to see you.”

    “Who are they?”

    “I think they’re farmers, Senator. They keep saying something about the melon lobby?”

  10. Also, at the risk of repeating myself: I hope the proggie little fucksticks pour every last ounce of political capital they have into this. PUSH HARDER, DIANE!

  11. Retards.

    You can imagine the conversation:

    “Let’s make this work, unlike 1994 – remember that? All the manufacturers that weaselled out because their gun wasn’t a ‘Colt AR-15′? Well, we’ll teach them!”

    Thing is, even when they really, really want to achieve a decisive victory over semi-automatic firearms, they still don’t have the balls to go after anything that looks like a Garand.

    I’m truly confouded. We’re being utterly fucking whipped by a posse of incompetent, ineducable clowns. Our futures are being decided by a bunch of drooling morons.

    If this shit sandwich were to be passed using that list, it looks like I’d STILL be legal, but it’s all rather aademic since my entire collection was lost in that terrible boating accident.

  12. I’m-a name my semi-automatic ugly gun (if I ever manage to retrieve it from the cold, dark depths of my fish pond) “Vera.” I don’t see that name on DiFi’s list.

  13. To be fair, Emmett — most of the retards of my acquaintance are simply lovely people, who’ve never tried to trample my rights, indoctrinate my children, or leave a $125,000 tab on my credit card. They deserve better than to be lumped in with Democrat senators.

  14. I foresee a lot of DBA additions for these companies.

    Imagine renaming some of these firearm as:
    Affirmative Action
    Welfare
    Social Security
    Aid to Dependent Women and Children
    Patient Protection and Care Act
    Headstart

    The funny thing is, these names make sense. Got any more liberal shibboleths that might work?

  15. I notice a few guns not on that list that would put the firepower of an AR-15 to shame.

    Let me just say, the results they are going to get do not resemble in the slightest the results they think they are going to get. Interpret that as you will.

  16. ’68 hell, repeal it back to NFA-’34

    The United States Supreme Court, in 1968 decided the case of Haynes v. United States in favor of the defendant, which effectively gutted the National Firearms Act of 1934
    [...]
    To deal with this, Congress rewrote the Act to make registration of existing firearms impossible except by the government (previously, an existing firearm could be registered by any citizen). In addition to fixing the defect identified in Haynes, the revision tightened definitions of the firearms regulated by the Act, as well as incorporating a new category of firearm, the Destructive Device, which was first regulated in the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968. This revision is known as the National Firearms Act of 1968 to differentiate it from the NFA of 1934, which is a different (and now void) law.

    I had thought that the revision had been part of GCA-68 but now see it was part of another ’68 law so repeal NFA-68 too.

  17. Huh, I didn’t know Sowell was a Marine Corps pistol instructor back in the day.

  18. I want to go back to 1934, geoffb. Remove all of it from then forward, as it is all unconstitutional, no matter what the squirrels on the SC say.

  19. Squid,

    I understand the point you’re making, but it hardly matters if you get fragged by a well-meaning but ignorant nice person or the reanimated zombie of Karl Marx. Either way, you’re fucked.

  20. Ok, by me Cranky. I just meant that the 1934 law is already void.

  21. A retard, with power.

  22. Too bad we couldn’t get some sheriffs to arrest some elected proggs for treason, in that they are violating their oath to protect and defend the constitution. Starting with Feinstein, the treacherous old bitch.

  23. I’m-a name my semi-automatic ugly gun “Vera.”

    Blasphemy! There is only one Vera!

  24. BTW: I was unaware that the police are empowered to grant you an exception to the law. Silly me, I thought that was what courts were for.

  25. Is it just me or does Diane Feinstein look like The Mother in the movie version of Pink Floyd’s The Wall?

  26. Amazing isn’t it. This – is a weapon that is a candidate to be banned:

    Yes, just this bit

    When this isn’t:

    My little pwnie

    Now, just to be clear (as our beloved leader might say) I don’t want either to be banned, but it illustrates their idiocy perfectly.

  27. Looks like M1 carbines and SKS rifles will be jolly popular. The VZ 58 escapes as well. The Mini 14 Tactical banned, but not the Ranch or Mini 30? These Congress critters are pretty dim.

  28. Well, Assault Weapons are much more dangerous that Battle Rifles.

    Maybe they’d rather be battled than assaulted.

  29. I am heartened by their idiocy.

  30. If they were honest they would just outlaw all semi-automatics. After all, most people hunt with bolt-action rifles, so you really don’t need a semi-auto for hunting.

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  32. Just how many criminals does Feinstein wish to create?

    Lots.

    But on to Question 47, addressed to those with a gun in their home: “If the government passed a law to take your guns, would you give up your guns or defy the law and keep your guns?”

    The response: 65 percent reported they would “defy the law.” That incudes 70 percent of Republicans, 68 percent of conservatives, 52 percent of Democrats and 59 percent of liberals.

  33. Current California law required everyone who owned what the government considers to be an “Assault Rifle” to have them all registered by a certain date, long past, lest the owner commit a class C felony. I an curious as to what the calculated rate of compliance was.

    I DO know that they tried to outlaw the sks entirely, many moons ago, and the calculated compliance rate was so low that they rescinded the law. That was probably before the current law took place.

  34. It’s funny, geoff B: he’s not sure if he has the proper credentials to decode a document “of, by, and for the people” that says in its Bill of Rights that “the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

    Apparently, one needs a robed priesthood to do so.

  35. Blasphemy! There is only one Vera!

    Norm Peterson’s wife?

  36. Vera, Vera, what has become of you? Does anybody else in here feel the way I do?

  37. ” was unaware that the police are empowered to grant you an exception to the law.”

    Sure they can. Just ask David Gregory.

    “I an curious as to what the calculated rate of compliance was.”

    I don’t have a cite handy, but one estimate I saw was less than 10%.

  38. Cranky – you are right, of course, but the plain fact is that I’ve also found that training for accuracy at a range is far harder with a bolt action or with a cowboy rifle, ‘cos you have to screw about with the action between shots – a distraction from the important skill of effective, fast target acquisition.

    This becomes a real issue when you’re defendiung yourself from an EPA SWAT team who just came a-visiting to ask about that gas-guzzling behemoth that your neighbor reported you driving, or the drone thermoscan that indicates you have a below-spec section of loft insulation. The extra seconds you spend in target acquisition means the EcoCop SDM can pick you off before you take out 3 or 4 of his goon buddies.

    ‘Cos *that* right there is what they want you disarmed for.

  39. Much seems to be above his pay-grade. The clearly spelled out rights of the citizens of his county and the safety of the lives of those same citizens and of his deputies.

  40. I guess my ability to convey sarcasm is severely limited, Emmet. The second sentence was me channeling proggtard.

    Of all the rifles I lost in my various boating accidents (you would think I learned my lesson after the first time!), only one was a bolt action. While I never hunted, I would likely use a semi-auto to hunt if it were legal to do so.

    Owning a gun is not about hunting, it is about self-defense, from predators small (thieves) to large (governments). A bolt action simply will not cut it.

  41. Hard to calibrate my response (and reactions) here in the office, Cranky.

    Cow-Orkers preening about how America will be ‘just like it was when Bill was President’ again, and yes, “why do hunters need automatic guns with high-clip bullets anyway?”

    So I get this here in the city, then I go home to a wife who’s thinking of taking up Krav Maga. I keep pinching myself wondering when I’m going to wake up.

  42. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/rush-limbaugh-was-right-86641.html

    Awww. Lowry wants to be friends again! Hey Charlie Brown! I’ll hold the football, and you run up and kick it!

  43. Yeah, but posting something like that at Politico? Who’s he trying to appeal to?

    He must be getting paid on the number of new IP addresses that follow the link.

  44. The Mini 14 Tactical banned, but not the Ranch or Mini 30?

    SW, As I noted on another thread, it’s only a specific model (M-14/20CF) of the Ruger Mini-14 Tactical that has their knickers in a twist, likely because that one looks so darned scary compared to the other Mini-14′s (even the other Mini-14 Tactical versions) and the Mini-Thirty.

    It’s about aesthetics, rather than functions.

    Although I wonder if I can get an exemption for this version. Much less “killing machine-ish” I believe.

  45. If they manage to take away semi-autos, just remember that snipers use bolt-action rifles, so it doesn’t take too much imagination to think about what the new progressive talking point will be.

  46. I’m-a name my semi-automatic ugly gun “Vera.”

    “See Vera? Dress yourself up, you get taken out somewhere fun.”

  47. It’s about aesthetics, rather than functions.

    Which is making me think when the come after pistols my little Mark II Ruger doesn’t stand a chance. It looks much scarier than it actually is.

  48. I’ve heard that Chechen rebels using .22s with improvised suppressors and cheap scopes took out a fair number of Russian troops.

  49. I understand that making a suppressor is really not that difficult. The internet has all sorts of videos on the subject.

    Just saying is all.

  50. Suppressor? A set of dies and a lathe and you could churn these kind of babies out.

    Econo-Can

    Just make sure you pay your $200 Class 3 tax and complete your NFA filing before you use it, otherwise you’d be a felon or something outlaw-y.

  51. I believe the Chechens used 1liter soda bottles.

  52. Just make sure you pay your $200 Class 3 tax and complete your NFA filing before you use it, otherwise you’d be a felon or something outlaw-y.

    Once we’ve reached the point of needing suppressors for our rifles, filing with the NFA would be pretty far from our minds, I would think.

    At this point, filing with them is the same as asking them to come and take all your guns.

  53. In fact, if I were going to confiscate weapons, I would start with people who filed with the NFA. It would be a good test case to see which way the wind is blowing on the subject.

  54. Okay, it’s not filing with the NFA, it’s filing with the FBI.

    I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed.

  55. that’s ok the sharpest tool in the shed is probably the one what’s used the least

  56. SW, As I noted on another thread, it’s only a specific model (M-14/20CF) of the Ruger Mini-14 Tactical that has their knickers in a twist, likely because that one looks so darned scary compared to the other Mini-14?s (even the other Mini-14 Tactical versions) and the Mini-Thirty.

    You know, I’ve used the Mini-14 varoiations repeatedly and mockingly as an example of the asininity of the 94 AWB, and now they’ve gone and specifically tried to codify their stupidity into law. There ought to be a medal for that level of idiocy. Oh, wait. Perhaps there is.

  57. example of the asininity of the 94 AWB

    the proggtards are fast and furiously stamping their foot this time

  58. Pretty fly for a half-white guy.

  59. Lord of …

  60. Where’s serr8d? I see a photoshopping opportunity.

  61. The bees know. Apparently, the flies do too.

  62. Hurray! I made the list! Well, by proxy, anyway.

    (And if all my assaulty-looking weapons hadn’t been lost in a freak boating accident, that is.)

  63. childhood memory: dog turds and flies under the sun

  64. Lots of flies indoors means there is something dead somewhere.

    In this case likely the Constitution.

  65. Is he still keeping the thermostat jacked up to 80 degrees? No wonder there are flies.

  66. By the way: is this a grandfathered list, or do they plan to try confiscation, or staking out shooting ranges for arrests?

  67. Grandfathered, but those must be registered. Molon Labe.

  68. when can we “register” proggtards? there is not that many. gov’t/mbm/edu?

  69. A lot of lakes, ponds, rivers, etc are going to acquire the “iron-bottom” prefix to them at this rate.

    So many gun purchases, so much clumsiness on boats…

  70. I’m pretty sure the plan is to declare all the weapons as being the same as full-autos, requiring a background check from the FBI and $200 per weapon registration fee. Purchase of newly manufactured guns would be illegal, I assume.

  71. Black market, bitches.

  72. Why not tax tea while they’re at it?

  73. proggtards

    We shall go on to the end, we shall mock them fight in France, we shall mock them fight on the seas and oceans, we shall mock them fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall mock them fight on the beaches, we shall mock them fight on the landing grounds, we shall mock them fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall mock them fight in the hills; we shall never surrender

  74. That there are .22LR’s included is both pathetic and hilarious.

    First thing I noticed. I was both sickened and unsurprised.

    Fortunately my Marlin .22LR bolt-action with its hyper-deadly 7-round magazine is not on the list.

  75. Molon labe – you fucking stupid cunt.

  76. so here’s my ? : why hasn’t cruz, rubio, paul gone on record today and ax about difi’s gun permits? i’m sure the beltway clan would decry: “what difference it would make”!!11!!

  77. Anyone know offhand what a “Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rife” is?

  78. Anyone know offhand what a “Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rife” is?

    Its the same as the Ranch 14 only scarier looking.

  79. when can we “register” proggtards? there is not that many. gov’t/mbm/edu?

    Not a bad idea it seems:

    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/25/pahu2uzy.jpg

  80. I learned yesterday that Chuck Schumer has a concealed carry permit. In NYC.

    Go figure.

  81. It really seems the main problem with these guns is the lack of a wooden stock and foregrip.

    I am thinking of putting together a de-sporterizer kit, some brown duct tape and woodgrain contact paper to convert all these horrifying murder machines back into nice safe hunting rifles.

    Are you going to try to argue that Feinstein is too smart to fall for it?

  82. how about schumer’s and biden or bloomturds nypd protection to the vacation home. gop clowns.

  83. Anyone know offhand what a “Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rife” is?

    Heh. I missed that before.

    I believe it’s what illiterate, brain-dead, hoplophobic proggtards call a wet-pants-inducing non-AR “Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rifle“.

  84. when can we “register” proggtards?

    F*ck the registration, where is the proggtard buyback being held? I’m looking to score a $50 Cabela’s giftcard in return for the aging, heavily worn liberal hippie-type living up the street from me.

    I can drop him off in any condition, no questions asked, and still get the giftcard, right?

  85. You know, trying to find a bright side in all this, if it does come down to rebellion, if we can hold on for another decade or two we will be facing an American military with its budget gutted and mostly made up of gay women.

    So there is that.

  86. gay women with nanobots and sonic transmorphers and in psionic command of a sky dark with killdrones

  87. Gay women with sonic transmorphers won’t ever leave their tents.

  88. crap

  89. I am thinking of putting together a de-sporterizer kit, some brown duct tape and woodgrain contact paper to convert all these horrifying murder machines back into nice safe hunting rifles.

    Good times.

  90. cut the funding for tickle stuff

  91. ” mostly made up of gay women.”

    “Some of them boys is SCARY.” — Hooper X

  92. gay women

    not gay they like to like to lick. chicks do babies.

  93. baracky kills babies and ambassadors and gay lovers

  94. I’m sure that better minds than mine have mentioned this but it’s really sorta surreal that they try to outlaw this or that type of weapon.

    Weapons aren’t fixed things. An AR-15 is a BX-1 Purple overnight. A BX-1 P is a TorX M tomorrow. CAD/CAM was already old when I first heard about it in the mid-90s. They’re actually trying to nail this jello to the wall?

    Methinks our betters haven’t read much Plato.

  95. Peyman’s sentiments were echoed by Sheriff Robert Maciol from Oneida County, NY, who is having a hard time figuring out how to enforce Gov. Cuomo’s new gun laws, one of which will ban the possession of unregistered ‘assault weapons’ and magazines holding more than 7 rounds.

    We don’t know where these guns are because they’re not registered and again I will not and I certainly don’t have the manpower to start going to every person in Oneida County to see if they have a gun. I mean, we’re not going to be doing that,” said Maciol.

    I’m going to assume two things. That the FBI, certainly since this administration came in, has somehow saved every record of every transaction that was “Insta-checked” and that the ATF will be ordered to make digitized, OCRed, copies of every dealer’s 4473 that is on file. Even then there will be millions of banned guns whose whereabouts are unknown since they were sold before the records were kept, or “known” to be at the bottom of some lake, or sold for cash to some stranger years before.

    SNAFU doesn’t begin to describe what this law will be. I suspect that the one’s pushing it couldn’t care less about the effects, after all “What difference would it make.”

  96. They will do like they have done for drugs, some administrator will be authorized to fold new items into the law as banned too. The New York law already does this giving the power to the head of the State police, (whatever his official title is).

  97. new york is creepy and crazy expensive

    and it reeks of decay and everything has a toll attached to it and the people, they hate freedom they like to be told what to do

    like little bitches

  98. SNAFU doesn’t begin to describe what this law will be.

    FUBAR, perhaps?

  99. this is a law that will never be

    a stillborn edict is this

    it will never be born and never go to kindy garten

    no killboys need it ever fear

  100. Norm Peterson’s wife?

    Who else?

  101. Anti-gun politics trumps money for Reed Exhibitions. Eastern Sports and Outdoors Show “postponed” aka cancelled.

    We have everything necessary for a great news story. British company dabbles in American politics, perhaps trying to curry favor with the administration.

    American grass roots response by boycott is immediate and massive. A huge show, with over 200,000 attendees is shut down because the Brits will not back down.

    This in the middle (likely because of) some of the most hotly contested political issues in years.

    Not a peep from the old media. Why is this not covered in the New York Times, ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR?

  102. to the extent that it’s been covered the propaganda sluts blame the NRA for boycotting

    not the company’s faggy British stupidity

    tick tock them Falklands is good as gone

  103. Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D., N.Y.) “Traditional Rifles Easier For Women To Use Than Assault Weapons”

    Ass-pulls and lies, but they work for the low-info cult.

  104. From the transcript at Geoff’s link:

    PIERS MORGAN: I have an interview coming up with two young women who wrote a piece in which they said they wanted the rights of the AR-15 weapon at home because they feared they would be attacked and they wanted a gun that would guarantee they would murder or would kill their attacker. How do you respond to that particular argument, which is they believe under their second amendment right they should be allowed an AR-15?

    CAROLYN MCCARTHY: I will tell you, if you talk to professionals, hunters and certainly sportsmen, they’ll tell you that’s not the gun to use. A rifle is more accurate.

    An AR-15 isn’t a rifle? It isn’t accurate?

    I would give some advice to the make believe “professionals, hunters and certainly sportsmen” in her imagination. You are fictional constructs. You’re not real. Stop giving advice to actual, concrete humans.

  105. they need a guarantee that they will murder their attacker says piers morgan the faggy british propaganda slut

    carolyn says “a rifle” is that guarantee a murder-minded woman is looking for

    this is cnn

  106. It’s also probably worth mentioning that in America you don’t a) murder or b) kill an intruder in your home.

    Go home, Piers.

  107. they should be allowed

    Right there is a lie. The second amendment doesn’t “allow” anything. It, as the others do, forbids the government from doing certain things, explicitly forbids.

  108. Yeah, it does take awhile to unpack, Geoff.

    The man doesn’t understand America in the slightest. This is how you get a job on CNN nowadays.

  109. [As is so often the case I've falsely posited ignorance (my "doesn't understand" phrasing) where malice keeps shining through.]

    [Isn't intentional. Just a vestigial remnant of a better, earlier age.]

  110. “Traditional Rifles Easier For Women To Use Than Assault Weapons”

    NOT ACCORDING TO THESE LADIES!

    Oh,
    and Piers Morgan is an ASS!!!

    That is all.

  111. Methinks our betters haven’t read much Plato.

    They don’t read at all, they just look at pictures.

    Literally.

  112. They have the Norinco 56S on their banned list, which as far as I can tell includes the Chinese SKS knockoff with its incredibly deadly 10-round clip.

    Clip. Actual clip. Nonremovable magazine.

    Probably not what they intended, but as it looks assaulty and furthermore has a built-in, deployable bayonet, it must be banned.

  113. Methinks our betters haven’t read much Plato.

    I’d be happy if they just remembered back a couple of decades to when they last tried this stunt.

  114. I’d be happy if they just remembered back a couple of decades to when they last tried this stunt.

    The right people weren’t in charge back then.

  115. On the evidence, I’d say Mrs. Senator Feinstein hasn’t even read much of the great tutor of modern men (and especially tyrants), Nick Machiavelli. So far as I can recall, he doesn’t include a chapter in his Prince entitled, “Be Sure to Show Your Ass to the People Through the Performance of Frequent Useless Gestures, In Order That They Will Little Respect You.”

  116. Probably not what they intended, but as it looks assaulty and furthermore has a built-in, deployable bayonet, it must be banned.

    I think the Ruger Mini-14 Tactical discussed above provides the best example of just how stupid their approach is, and illustrates how the look of a gun (i.e. scary or not scary) is clearly THE most important factor in their “carefully thought out” master plan.

    This one is on the list to be banned.

    This one is NOT on the list.

    However. they are both “Mini-14 Tactical Rifles”. Other than the fact that the first one has a more “AR-15/quasi military” look than the second, they are in fact the same exact rifle. Functionally identical in every way and firing the exact same non-high-powered 5.56 round.

    But to the idiot gun banners, one is an “assault weapon” and must be banned in order to save our children, while the other is, by its omission from the list, perfectly acceptable for Americans to own (for now, at least).

    Clear, rational thinking and logic are demonstrably not the proggtard gun-grabbers’ strong suits.

    But then again, preventing future school shooting is not exactly their goal here, is it?

  117. They’ll start by banning only the scary-looking guns. Then ATF will administratively add the less-scary-looking but otherwise identical guns to the ban list.

  118. *CAROLYN MCCARTHY: I will tell you, if you talk to professionals, hunters and certainly sportsmen, they’ll tell you that’s not the gun to use. A rifle is more accurate.*

    Good lord, the stupidity, it burns and stings. I like how the media interview anti-gun people who apparently know nothing about guns, other than guns are “icky” and “scary” and nobody should have one.

  119. The banned Mini-14 looks much more deadly than the legal one.

  120. I think the Ruger Mini-14 Tactical discussed above provides the best example of just how stupid their approach is, and illustrates how the look of a gun (i.e. scary or not scary) is clearly THE most important factor in their “carefully thought out” master plan.
    This one [Catalog Number: M-14/20CF Model Number: 5846] is on the list to be banned.
    This one [Catalog Number: M-14/20GBCPC Model Number: 5847] is NOT on the list.

    Just to further emphasize the futile idiocy on display here, it only takes a moment to swap out the stock, changing the one into the other

  121. I need a NV optic to go with my GRSC combat scope. I have NV goggles, but I think to shoot I would need a mounted monocular, or else maybe a IR laser.

    Any of you work with night vision stuff? Something in the PVS14 line seems to be best. I can use the goggles with my EOTech sight, should I ever attach that to a weapon. Which I can’t do because all but a very old Colt revolver sank to the bottom of a deep deep lake.

  122. Interesting how many non-AR platforms they listed under “AR types”

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