December 20, 2012

Ann Coulter makes herself useful

Which has been a rarity of late.  Still, here she’s on her game:

In a nonsense “study” going around the Internet right now, Mother Jones magazine claims to have produced its own study of all public shootings in the last 30 years and concludes: “In not a single case was the killing stopped by a civilian using a gun.”

This will come as a shock to people who know something about the subject.

The magazine reaches its conclusion by simply excluding all cases where an armed civilian stopped the shooter: They looked only at public shootings where four or more people were killed, i.e., the ones where the shooter wasn’t stopped.

If we care about reducing the number of people killed in mass shootings, shouldn’t we pay particular attention to the cases where the aspiring mass murderer was prevented from getting off more than a couple rounds?

It would be like testing the effectiveness of weed killers, but refusing to consider any cases where the weeds died.

In addition to the Portland mall case, here are a few more examples excluded by the Mother Jones’ methodology:

– Mayan Palace Theater, San Antonio, Texas, this week: Jesus Manuel Garcia shoots at a movie theater, a police car and bystanders from the nearby China Garden restaurant; as he enters the movie theater, guns blazing, an armed off-duty cop shoots Garcia four times, stopping the attack. Total dead: Zero.

– Winnemucca, Nev., 2008: Ernesto Villagomez opens fire in a crowded restaurant; concealed carry permit-holder shoots him dead. Total dead: Two. (I’m excluding the shooters’ deaths in these examples.)

– Appalachian School of Law, 2002: Crazed immigrant shoots the dean and a professor, then begins shooting students; as he goes for more ammunition, two armed students point their guns at him, allowing a third to tackle him. Total dead: Three.

– Santee, Calif., 2001: Student begins shooting his classmates — as well as the “trained campus supervisor”; an off-duty cop who happened to be bringing his daughter to school that day points his gun at the shooter, holding him until more police arrive. Total dead: Two.

– Pearl High School, Mississippi, 1997: After shooting several people at his high school, student heads for the junior high school; assistant principal Joel Myrick retrieves a .45 pistol from his car and points it at the gunman’s head, ending the murder spree. Total dead: Two.

– Edinboro, Pa., 1998: A student shoots up a junior high school dance being held at a restaurant; restaurant owner pulls out his shotgun and stops the gunman. Total dead: One.

By contrast, the shootings in gun-free zones invariably result in far higher casualty figures — Sikh temple, Oak Creek, Wis. (six dead); Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Va. (32 dead); Columbine High School, Columbine, Colo. (12 dead); Amish school, Lancaster County, Pa. (five little girls killed); public school, Craighead County, Ark. (five killed, including four little girls).

All these took place in gun-free zones, resulting in lots of people getting killed — and thereby warranting inclusion in the Mother Jones study.

If what we care about is saving the lives of innocent human beings by reducing the number of mass public shootings and the deaths they cause, only one policy has ever been shown to work: concealed-carry laws. On the other hand, if what we care about is self-indulgent grandstanding, and to hell with dozens of innocent children being murdered in cold blood, try the other policies.

She’s right. The ghouls are out pretending they hold the moral high ground. They don’t.  They are advocating for making us even less safe and less free — and perversely for keeping children firmly secured as sitting ducks.

If one didn’t know better, one might suspect that they do this in order to milk the next inevitable slaughter for political reasons. If one didn’t know better.

(h/t jls)

Posted by Jeff G. @ 11:40am
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Comments (162)

  1. when a crazed autistic killboy comes around the corner would you rather have a gun with you or an indignant cnn propaganda slut?

    me i would prefer the gun

    it’s just more pragmatic

  2. Prudent, even.

  3. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to remind my counterparts that the police are civilians, and ask them whether their proposed gun-grabs will include the boys in blue. They usually make the gulping fish face for a few seconds, after which we can discuss their reasons why the cops should be treated differently, and whether those reasons make any sense, or could be applied to private citizens just as easily.

    I love making people do the gulping fish face. It’s always the highlight of my day.

  4. I’m shocked that Mother Jones would be disingenuous! Shocked I tell you. There are still too many statist ninnies who just loved to be lied to, I guess.

  5. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to remind my counterparts that the police are civilians, and ask them whether their proposed gun-grabs will include the boys in blue.

    Yes that’s often offered is these cases where the person taking down the shooter is an off-duty or former cop. Having worn a badge myself, I’m certain that a badge does not bestow magical shooting powers that are unavailable to those who do not hold such a credential. There is no magic. None.

  6. I concluded that the US started WWII by excluding anything the Germans and Japanese did before December 7, 1941.

  7. Pablo, what do you mean, there’s no magical shooting powers? According liberal articles about firearms, owning a firearm automatically makes one capable of shooting the eye out of a fly at 6,000 yards.

  8. If one didn’t know better, one might suspect that they do this in order to milk the next inevitable slaughter for political reasons. If one didn’t know better.

    The very horse I’ve been beating on various threads today.

  9. owning a firearm automatically makes one

    a crazed maniac who pulls the trigger at every and all provocations, including loud noises.

    FTFY

  10. In Minnesota, Guns In Schools May Be Legal. For Now.

    Minnesota is both a solidly blue state and a land of political correctness, so it is surprising to learn that guns aren’t necessarily prohibited in the state’s schools. The Minneapolis Star Tribune headlines: “Little-known Minnesota exemption allows guns in schools.”

    link

  11. dicentra, I post on a conservative/classically liberal blog. Stands to reason I’m already a knuckledragging thug who’s violent tendencies are exacerbated by easy access to firearms.

  12. With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”

  13. unexpectedly!

  14. OT: remember our lovely Lady of the Left (Tracy Clark Flory)? of hook-up sex fame? now she’s defending donkey sex. At Salon. (I can’t remember tags for links here, and i kinda don’t want to link to it anyway.)

    And people think that society is no worse than it ever was in the past. Maybe I’m naive. ?

  15. Is that slang for something? God I hope that’s slang for something.

  16. How about interracial sex between donkeys and horses?

  17. i think the argument boils down to: well we kill & eat animals so what’s wrong with…..

    OMG.

  18. Ernst, I risked getting scroogled and saw the article.

    “A man accused of feeling up a farm animal argues an anti-bestiality law is unconstitutional. Does he have a point?
    BY TRACY CLARK-FLORY ”

    Not slang. Sorry.

  19. Did the impetus to discuss bestiality derive from that Der Spiegel article from a couple weeks back? Or was it the result of a spontaneously generated urge on her(?) part?

  20. I don’t know but after this week I’m scared. somebody hold me. (but not up against a donkey. Jesus)

  21. Ms. Flory is likely looking for a new hook-up, since she has no doubt knocked boots with everyone in her building and at Slate and there aren’t any class reunions to look forward to this year.

    Even her dog is hiding from her these days.

  22. somebody hold me

    Heh. Happy to.

    He said, jokingly.

  23. I still click on your damn links Ernst. I can’t quit you. Please don’t ever link to anything beastiality related. I beg you.

  24. I only link to things that are for your own good.

  25. For her own good or needs a helping hand?

    Come clean, Ernst.

  26. I’m sure Sharper Image or Brookstone sells something tastefully efficacious for this purpose.

  27. Okay, I should not have posted that. Auto denouncement commencing in 3…2…1…denounced.

  28. There’s always the TSA too.

    I only help myself to what’s mine by conjugal right leigh.

    And then only after a tedious amount of negotiation.

  29. ok now somebody answer this seriously: i know beastiality’s been around forever. do things just seem to be getting more degenerate because the media can blast it all over now? Whereas before we wouldn’t hear about it unless it was a “local” issue?

  30. Anyone who can answer that seriously(meaning accurately) is either speculating or has frightening powers.

  31. okay good. then I’m going to say that i’m just naive and everything is the same as ever. because this week has not been good for my nerves. (I fear I am a sheep.)

  32. Good man, Ernst. Jewelry is usually a sure thing.

    Just sayin’.

  33. in my case a sure thing would be a new set of router bits. Which means that I am immune to everyone. ha

  34. I fear I am a sheep.)

    You say that out loud, and McGehee and Silverwhistle will start fighting over you.

  35. This is the shortest self help book ever:

    Question: If you want sex she offers you a back rub. If you want a back rub she offers you sex? Why?

    Answer: Your penis makes you want the wrong things. By the way, someone really needs to clean out the refrigerator before it gets gross.

    I didn’t write that. Somebody else did that.

  36. gross. I told you Ernst.

  37. missfixit, did I mention that I not only have several sets of router bits, but an entire file of TiNi drill bits? The drill bit equivalent of the big 64 color box of crayons?

    Also a metal lathe, and a table saw, and a metal-cutting band saw, and….

  38. I am immune to you SBP. Unless you live nearby. And like to share.

  39. Just remember that being a good person rarely makes the news, Missfixit.

    The internet makes it easier to be a junky for the disgusting, but like avoiding the porn shop or… I guess the red barn district… you just skip over it and let the disgusting be disgusting.

  40. Titanium Nickel alloy? Or do you mean the Aerospace company? Mine are just carbides.

  41. Whoops. Titanium nitride-coated. TiN, not TiNi.

  42. Fair enough.

  43. Sorry miss. I took a stab at the media side of your original question last night.

  44. Hmm… I’m setting off the spam filter. That’s probably a sign I need to get back to work.

  45. I have some carbides, but not a full set. The metal ones are more forgiving to me (I’m not anything like a skilled machinist — it’s fun, though).

  46. thanks, i think that’s true. the media is literally dancing in the blood of babies this week, all to make a buck & push some political agenda. I don’t even have cable TV and I still can’t get away from it because the christmas music radio station keeps busting into the caroling with updates on the massacre.
    ugh

  47. ok now somebody answer this seriously: i know beastiality’s been around forever. do things just seem to be getting more degenerate because the media can blast it all over now? Whereas before we wouldn’t hear about it unless it was a “local” issue?/blockquote>

    Partly But what really strikes me isn’t the media coverage, it is the complete lack of shame by the participants. I don’t think there was ever a time in the past when folks weren’t embarassed to be caught at it like this.

    They really do have no sense of shame.

    Well, except to be flagrantly productive and useful.

  48. I found myself listening to NPR this morning on the way in to work, and heard the following on a “Gun Violence” segment:

    When it comes to potential bills that could be introduced in Congress in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, Diaz says it’s crucial to focus on this question of magazine capacity. Lawmakers must ask, Diaz says, “What actually are the design features? What are the real functions of assault weapons? … Can you put a high-capacity magazine into this gun that will hold 20, 40, 60, 100, 110 rounds of ammunition? And, if that’s true, then it’s an assault rifle and we will not allow their manufacture or import.”

    That, I suspect, is what used to be known as a “tell”.

  49. - ….and so I waltz in packing my 10 inch titanium diamond tipped “widow maker” router bit”, and flash that killer smile that just screams “anyone need a hug”?

    - (don’t go there McGehee)

    - di, whats the name of that Potter site again….My kiddo’s interested.

  50. Drive-by drilling?

    I know a guy who defended himself by grabbing a chainsaw out of the back of his truck and firing it up. What the hell, it worked; the punk suddenly realized that he was late for an appointment or something.

  51. - Hey, if yor’re going to drill you always want to select the best piece of stock.

  52. So if I get a big 50 for a 9mm it’s now an assault rifle. Interesting.

  53. So, basically, he would like any gun that accepts a box magazine outlawed.

  54. The House leadership is having grave difficulty gathering their expected votes. Ha! Pitch ‘em overboard, House members. Take back your authority. Fuck Beohner raw, to speak in the vernacular.

  55. Just tell him, “Boehner, Honest talk. You will NOT be speaker again. You know why. I’m sure that smarts but ask yourself, do you want Nancy to be speaker? You will not be minority leader either. You keep talking about hills not to die on and taking one for the team. You WILL be taking one. You have made this inevitable with your vascillation and poor decisions regarding committee assignments. When, not if, you take one the only question to answer is will it be for the Team you’re always yammering about, or will it be for Boehner’s spite? “

  56. I’d read that a little closer:

    Lawmakers must ask, Diaz says, “What actually are the design features? What are the real functions of assault weapons? … Can you put a high-capacity magazine into this gun that will hold 20, 40, 60, 100, 110 rounds of ammunition? And, [I]f that’s true, then it’s an assault rifle and we will not allow their manufacture or import.”

    Diaz isn’t talking about magazines. He’s talking about semi-automatic rifles with a magazine well for detachable magazines.

    Your grand-daddy’s M-1 Garand main battle rifle is good to go. So are your bolt guns with internal magazines, lever guns, pump-guns and break-actions. Everything else is an assault rifle, including Blake’s new Ruger Scout Rifle. Because, like he said, it would have made a good assault rifle for the doughboys at the Meuse-Argonne.

    I guess that’ll learn him to shoot off his mouf

  57. “So, basically, he would like any gun that accepts a box magazine outlawed.”

    Helical magazines? No? Darn!

  58. Well there go the pistol carbines! Throw away your Hi-Points folks!

  59. there’s a levin surge going on

  60. Ernst, the Ruger shipped today.

    I was on pins and needles, as that particular Ruger is hard to come by and doesn’t stay in stock long.

    Extra magazines have also been ordered.

    Woot!!

  61. levin surge is over. victory is ours.

  62. we make orangeman cry yes

  63. Oompa Loompa Doopity Dee
    What were you smoking when you trusted me?

  64. “we make orangeman cry yes”

    Yes. And Reid sends Senate home too.

  65. Blake, I’ve been looking at that Ruger too. It’s nice.

  66. Everything is hard to come by and doesn’t stay in stock. I was recently told that they could not get me a Ruger 10/22.

  67. Oh hey, OT, I found that privilege hierarchy! There you go.

    The responses from LEGITIMATE SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS talking about THE OPPRESSION OLYMPICS and how privilege is interrelated and I just

    can’t even

    handle

    it.

  68. They STILL don’t even know what the fuck they are talking about. They can’t even go on wikipedia and find out. They are just passing along these stupid “tricksy” bills directly shit into their hands by dishonest lobbyists without even reviewing them. Just like 2007 after the VMI massacre.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospNRk2uM3U&feature=player_embedded

  69. Oh hey, OT, I found that privilege hierarchy! There you go.

    Er, what’s a “Cis”?

  70. “The Human Privilege “Break down” for those who need educating:”

    need educating = prone to swallow shit hole without thinking about it or checking it out because they really don’t care and don’t like being yelled at by psychos who live in a trance like state where up is down and western patriarchal demons make the light switches work until we get a superior alternative female generated theory of electricity. Any day now. Science is a false man word that enslaves true-thought. Instead we will use SCIENCE!(TM)

  71. prone to swallow shit hole -> whole.

  72. Cis is “nearby”. Trans is “across” meaning “on the other side”.

    Cislunar means between Earth and the moon. Translunar means on the other side of the moon from Earth.

  73. It depends on the medium. Cis and trans are terms in genetics, too usually having to do with mutations. Sometimes the mutations are harmless other times dire.

    It’s not a lingo I’d have picked to talk about one’s sexual orientation unless the speaker is admitting an error of physiology. Neither would I use it to discuss power differentials since there is too much room for interpretation/misinterpretation.

    Unless the plan is to be offended at all times. Then it makes perfect sense.

  74. From Pellegri’s link,

    The name is Amanda. You can call me by my middle name Elizabeth. I spent the last two months in the hospital for harrassment but now Im taking a negative and creating a positive: educating others on vegan lifestyle!

    I think I will call her batshit crazy.

  75. She must have some epic insurance coverage or a formidable attorney.

    Harrassment, it’s the new bullying.

  76. educating others on vegan lifestyle!

    what the world needs: another true believer communist organizer.

  77. On Althouse:

    A debate on gun control between Reason’s Jacob Sullum and some guy named Bob Wright who write this silly piece of shit.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/12/a-gun-control-law-that-would-actually-work/266342/

    Guess who comes off as more of a loud ignorant presumptive totalitarian enabling muppet?

    http://www.althouse.blogspot.com/2012/12/reasons-jacob-sullum-defends-gun-rights.html

  78. How about we call her Johnson?

  79. Link to a complete video of the debate.

    http://bloggingheads.tv/videos/13772?in=27:27

  80. “Cis is “nearby”. Trans is “across” meaning “on the other side”.”

    Cisalpine and Transalpine Gaul.

    Like Frank Gilbreth, Obama has enough gall to be divided into three parts.

  81. Diaz isn’t talking about magazines. He’s talking about semi-automatic rifles with a magazine well for detachable magazines.

    Some of the ammunition counts are hitting Hyperspace Arsenal territory. Or I guess Hyperspace Magazine would be more accurate.

  82. I spent the last two months in the hospital for harrassment…

    I’d love to see what DSM IV notation is in that hospital record.

  83. baracky be gaul and Rousseau

  84. see some people are mad about my rape post but you guys know NOTHING of privilege. Women are always less privileged than men REGARDLESS of race. So that means when a man rapes a woman that it is always rape.

    I’d love for someone to explain this to me and then explain it to Queen Elizabeth, but I know I desire that someone do the impossible.

  85. Cis= same side
    Trans = far side or other side.

    Cis = phsyically and mentally a person is the same sex.
    Trans claims that physically and mentally a person’s sex is different. That is a physical male with a female mind or a physical female with a male mind or perhaps someone who has mixed sexual characteristics.

  86. “So that means when a man rapes a woman that it is always rape.”

    Akin got fucked over for way a less stupid statement than that. Just sayin’. I’d add Mourdock to that but his real problem was that he wasn’t Lugar.

  87. Cranky, yeah, the Ruger is nice looking and, hopefully, rugged. I think Ruger hit the sweet spot for a SHTF firearm. I’m leary of the AR platform due to AR’s having several moving parts that require regular lubrication.

  88. It’s utter bullshit, is what it is.

  89. “They STILL don’t even know what the fuck they are talking about. ”

    Oh, but they do. The pols and MSM are just counting on their constituents being too stupid to twig.

    And they’re right.

  90. - That type of creature is always one hysterical tear-jerk meltdown away from “if a man has sex with a woman its always rape”. Seems its the one area of their mushberger lives where they’ve discovered they can weild power and get attention…..finally.

  91. Akin got fucked over for way a less stupid statement than that. Just sayin’. I’d add Mourdock to that but his real problem was that he wasn’t Lugar.

    i like those folks, and throw in the witch, are ALWAYS MENTIONED but fiorina, meg whitman, tommy thompson et al are like not there

  92. can the wymens funky sexuality be questioned?

  93. like the chick on the time mag cover getting sex pleasure from her 5 yo? she can’t just rub it she got the kid to do it.

  94. - We all knew it was just a matter of time.

  95. Sorry I haven’t been around more today but someone told me BBH was on the lamb so I…

    Wait, wait?

  96. This is not News!(TM) right now. It may be ‘Assault news’ though that should be heavily regulated in the interest of maintaining public safety. This is what life looks like under enlightened leftist policies. If certain susceptible people are exposed to this it may cause them to have a voting accident where they vote for the wrong thing or person.

    “Tracking homicides in Chicago: Chicago nears 500 homicides for 2012″

    http://homicides.redeyechicago.com/

  97. - Once you take the reins of self determined morality , and move to Pleasure Island, it all falls so neatly into place. feets will be estatic.

  98. - I’ll have you know I never touch the lambs…..thats my….uh….story and I’m sticking to it!

  99. tumblr is a beautiful place full of serious people just like that lady up there.

  100. see i liked to attack proggtards with darwin via alinsky: make ‘em live by their rules.

  101. lamb marinade suggestions please

  102. Not touching that one, newrouter.

  103. the mechanization of sex in today’s proggtard world is repugnant. dead white babies in ct they don’t care like the dead black babies in chi town. the “crises” is the key.

  104. Not touching that one, newrouter.

    what the lamb marinade?

  105. I’m not ecstatic i got a blizzard on my head and the only foozle available is a “pizza hut” … which has a full bar why because it’s fancy

    The salad bar was ok i also tried some kind of taco pizza… some sort of test kitchen weirdness where they take a taco salad and mush it into a pizza crust and then sprinkle crunched up doritos on it

    It was ok but i didn’t eat the crust part

    Wanted to go see hobbits but my poor little car is encrusted with ice like something in a john carpenter movie

  106. oh for la

  107. I’ll be home soon enough after i knock out seeing my family i get to see dakotas and wyomings and utah which will be nice then i go home

    Maybe stop and see grand canyon not sure

  108. God, that whiny tool debating Sullum made my teeth itch.

    First off, Sullum did a great job, but he needed to better explain the militia clause. There were two kinds of militias, as I needed, the end result being that all the people, including women and children, made up the militia — with some as ready militia and some as reserve.

    Sullum’s right, though: there is no constitutional basis for a ban on true assault weapons, much less this newly invented civilian category of “military-style assault weapons,” which are essentially rifles with cosmetic or utilitarian features pleasing to the owner.

    And how does it come to count as even remotely intellectual to propose a 6-cartridge limit and the necessity of hand loading each round when such a thing lessens your ability to fight off multiple attackers?

    Honestly, I have no interest whatever in what that whiny douche thinks I need to protect myself. I am an adult and a free man — I’ve been checked, printed, and vetted by law enforcement — so that decision should be left up to me, not him, who I’m fairly certain has not real idea about firearms.

  109. at least not in a covered wagon. forward!

  110. We can’t carry axes or knives or halberds either. The keep and bear arms clause is walked all over with near impunity. I like saying impunity. It makes me think of casks and labyrinthine warrens and Montressors.

  111. And how does it come to count as even remotely intellectual to propose a 6-cartridge limit and the necessity of hand loading each round when such a thing lessens your ability to fight off multiple attackers?

    why are moms allowed to get off with their 5 yo sucking their breast? decency fore ever like segregation axs wallace.

  112. Some of the ammunition counts are hitting Hyperspace Arsenal territory. Or I guess Hyperspace Magazine would be more accurate.

    Don’t tell me you don’t want one of these. Dr. Ludovico taught me every gun nut wants one.

    How else are you going to mow down Bambi and all his gentle forest friends?

  113. Montressaurus Rex Paranoiades was the only dinosaur known to inherit a title and land and maintain a false facade of etiquette while burying its drunken misperceived foes alive in clown costumes in damp subterranean catacombs during the dinosaur carnival. While narrating it in the first person.

  114. - Doesn’t matter Jeff. The rcho chsmbrt ctre got the nsrrstive rolling the way they wanted, and everything else gets drownwd out, so details and shit do not count for squat once they get all the Obama bots squeeling.

    - Its rule by noise now.

  115. - the echo chamber crew – sheeese

  116. the sex thing is serious biz. the proggtards devalue it like all the other things they do such as: the money of the usa, the social security, the medicare/medicaide, student loans, gov’t motors, the rights in the constitution….. greengrocer and havel

  117. By the way, as of tonight there were 6500 pending background checks in the CO queue. It’s will take me 3 days to take possession of the gun I filed paperwork for today.

  118. And how does it come to count as even remotely intellectual to propose a 6-cartridge limit and the necessity of hand loading each round when such a thing lessens your ability to fight off multiple attackers?

    Because the 2nd Amendment is a dead letter provision. Just like the 3rd, the 9th and 10th.

    They’re the vestigal organs of our living constitution.

    So really, Wright is being generous.

  119. Damnit Jeff! Did losing your other guns teach you nothing?

    I swear, you’re as bad as my kids.

  120. I don’t understand. According to the latest polls, the majority of Americans view the GOP as too extreme, guns need to be confiscated, the 2nd amendment doesn’t matter because of the children, and yet…. ppl are lined up at the gun counters across the nation like it’s Black Friday.

  121. Just saw this at MidwayUSA:

    Ruger Magazine Ruger Mini-14 223 Remington 30-Round Steel Blue

    Product #: 893515 Ruger #: 90035 UPC #: 736676900350

    Status:
    Out of Stock, Backorder OK
    Date expected in stock: 08/07/2013[!!!]

  122. That would be because gun owners read the same polls missfixit.

  123. Twenty rounders are only back ordered until February.

  124. Well so far today I’ve been called a gun nut and a Christianist And a Republican.

    I have to admit that last one stung a bit. It’s a lie, I tell ya!

  125. I have to admit that last one stung a bit. It’s a lie, I tell ya!
    yeah that sucks, because no matter how much you say you’re not a R they don’t believe you. cuz D and R and green party are the only 3 options

  126. Also on a lighter note, I found out today that the Jewish kid in my daughter’s 3rd grade class has been going around telling everyone who will listen that Santa Claus isn’t real.

  127. CNN is gearing up to celebrate the one week anniversary of Sandy Hook tomorrow

    how are YOU going to celebrate? What special plans have you made?

  128. On an unrelated, fiscal-cliff-y note, I just stopped by Ace’s place, and saw a post from Malor about what a disaster (OPTICS!) it is that Boehner’s “plan B” vote didn’t happen. Sadly, it appears that most of the commenters agreed. (“Stupid purist teatards would rather raise everybody’s taxes than ‘only’ raise taxes on the $1M and up crowd.”)

    Disappointing, if not entirely surprising. Sorry, but if you’re a ‘conservative’ and you find yourself disagreeing with both Levin and Limbaugh, you’re probably doing it wrong.

    Personally, I’m with Derbyshire: “Over the cliff… whee! If the people want ever expanding government, they should pay for it. Maybe then they’ll remember that they’re not so keen on it, after all.”

  129. telling everyone who will listen that Santa Claus isn’t real.

    moses too ! bow down to moe, larry and curly

  130. @leigh: I once got called a closet Christian despite being an agnostic.

    Apparently, getting irritated at atheists being jackasses towards folks w/religious beliefs makes my agnosticism inauthentic or something… Must be some manual I missed. I think he was irritated because I was not following the “proper” faith by not believing in anything instead of simply stating I don’t know.

    Of course, it did get amusing. One of the Christians who comes close to matching the caricature progs make up to demonize them felt all “betrayed” because he thought my doing that made me his buddy and I wouldn’t call him on his using his faith as an excuse to be a jackass to all who didn’t believe things as he did. (Including some other Christians, judging from his persecution complex when they called him on his behavior as well.)

    Jackasses: There are so many wonderful and exciting flavors.

  131. Malor needs a swordfishing

    That’s right. I said it.

  132. Fantasy author Larry Correia who used to own a gun store in Utah ‘Splains some stuff to anyone who’d like to hear about real experience instead of morbid collectivist doom fantasies about those viciously loud steel demons that breath fire and smoke in a most non utopian way and help keep the proles from being ranked up and harvested for the struggle. .

    http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/

  133. “CNN is gearing up to celebrate the one week anniversary of Sandy Hook tomorrow
    how are YOU going to celebrate? What special plans have you made?”

    I’m going to take my Maya medicine and burn!!

  134. If that falls through I’ll go to Freebirds and get a steak burrito with black beans and the greasy rice.

  135. Larry also has an excellent post on the relative merits of handguns/shotguns/rifles for home (as distinct from personal) defense in his archives that anyone thinking about acquiring a firearm for that purpose would do well to read.

  136. Obama made Time’s “Person of the Year“. Again.

    I wonder, are two Time Jobs as good as the one-time fellating job that the Nobel Committee gave up some years back? Quantity over quality takes it, I’m guessing.

  137. What is a well regulated militia ?

    http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndmea.html

  138. - Twas the night before doomsday, and all through the Mayan temple the Hi priests were burning their vestial virgins, which is hard to do, really hard. (Do you have any idea how hard it is to find vestial virgins these days?)

    - I’m listening to Norri on coast to coast. My Bday is about an hour+ away, so I’m having ice creame and cake now. Can’t be too careful.

  139. I just realized that it’s already tomorrow today (central time zone).

    Maybe the world ends when the sun comes up?

  140. I don’t think the Maya gave much of a toot about Vesta. They were more into Chac (who was their rain god and sort of like Thor or Indrah) and the corn twins who were also heroes who killed underworld monsters.

  141. The tilt reaches angular max at 6:12 am eastern, so hello vinter, howdy longer days.

  142. Yeah I don’t know what Maya equivalent to Greenwich is. The Dresden Codex was from Chichén Itzá though in the Yucatan. So Central time? Eastern? I’m not sure.

  143. Central.

    4 hours to go….

  144. Twenty rounders are only back ordered until February.

    Cheaper than dirt has 20s in stock. No 30s for my gun but plenty of 20s so I got some.

    Thanks for reminding me Ernst.

  145. It’s already past midnight CST. Did the apocalypse get delayed again?

  146. Yeah, geoff, I was able to get some 20-rounders for the mini-30.

  147. I figured since the reason the Mayan calendar ends today is the winter solstice that’s when the actual end-of-the-world moment would happen — but that was almost three hours ago.

    Then again, if the world did end I’m not sure I could tell the difference.

  148. My thinking is the universe is too big to just up and all turn off at once. Can you imagine what size switch something like that would take?

    So depending on where they start shutting things down, it could take a little while before they get to us.

    Especially if its a union crew.

  149. Can you imagine what size switch something like that would take?

    Bigger than this one?

  150. Carol the cnn news crone says cause of boehner’s plan b failure none of us will get to retire til we’re 92 years old

    I hate that for me especially

  151. boehner danced a little boehnerfag jig to the left of his conference

    look what i can do he cried i’m a dancin i’m a dancin

    boy’s not right said the conference one to another, and they turned away, embarrassed and sad

  152. I should have listened to my old Pappy.

    He told me if I voted for a Republican they would wind up fucking me out of my social security, and by golly he was right.

    I voted for McCain and look what happened!

  153. Ruger Mini-14 30 Round Magazines – Date expected in stock: 08/07/2013[!!!]

    Now says expected in stock 1-12-2013.

  154. This article makes some pretty good points about the hypocrisy of elected officials demanding that the citizens disarm themselves “for the children” while they continue to enjoy armed security around themselves:

    Obama’s Hypocrisy Problem On Guns

    I especially like his point that each of us is the First Responder for our own families. Captures the reason why we “need” to have weapons of our own choosing in order to protect and defend our families from threats.

  155. That Larry Correia article was most excellent. The two links within the article are good too (one is what Ernst linked to).

  156. Wish I’d read the article Palaeo linked before I went digging for the one I linked. Would have saved myself some time.

    The comments are worth reading as well. Particularly the discussion JenniferR provoked while trying to be open-minded. Progressives really do think anyone who doesn’t think like they do is too stupid to be trusted.

  157. Cheaper than dirt has 20s in stock. No 30s for my gun but plenty of 20s so I got some.

    Thanks for reminding me Ernst.

    You’re welcome.

    I was just checking my inventment portfolio, and I see that the value of my initial investment has increased approximately 250%

  158. Late to this party and haven’t read one single comment….

    I don’t care what she said.

    Ann Coulter looks like a KFC bucket full of deer antlers.

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