December 16, 2012

We interrupt your regularly-scheduled Sunday Night football game so that Obama can speechify

This will serve as an open thread.

But first, I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that the President will tell us it’s time to have a national conversation about guns and violence.  Which is fine by me.  My first contribution to that conversation is this:  why is it that lawmakers looking for cheap grace have been allowed to pass laws that not only leave children unprotected in schools, but they proudly advertise the fact that that’s what they do?

We’re to entrust our children to school teachers — and yet those same teachers can’t be trusted, even with the proper training, to carry a concealed firearm.  Meanwhile, we’re to trust that criminals, who by definition are willing to break the law, will somehow be cautioned away from unspeakable acts because legislators like to attach their names to feel-good — and yet demonstrably unworkable — gun bans.

There.  There’s a start, liberal fascists.  Now let’s hear your defense of what are essentially “sitting duck” laws.

 

 

Posted by Jeff G. @ 6:29pm
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Comments (269)

  1. the piggy piggy teacher whore unions are very much opposed to teachers even having tazers

  2. Entirely setting aside the content of his oratory, I cannot listen to the man talk. His cadence and tone are like sandpaper in my ear canals.

  3. That national conversations should go like this:

    “Do you have the votes to amend the constitution to repeal the 2nd amendment? Then fuck off. Learn what semi-automatic and high powered means and stop ranting about how kids can legally buy sawed off double bazookas. They can’t. Also stop pretending that anyone who doesn’t trust your scheme to disarm the populace is a good thing must be pro-school massacre. That shit is sickening and infantile and you deserve to be slapped for it. “

  4. Also, Fast and Furious show how much Obama cares about this and how far he can be trusted with it.

  5. I’m with you, Jeff. It’s nothing but cheap grace.

    When my 16 year old tells me that Jugears speaking to a national television audience about a school massacre when those babies haven’t had a decent burial yet is tacky, then you know it’s over the top showboating.

  6. A friend of mine has a fun mental exercise that he uses when coaching baseball pitchers. If a player is having a consistent problem, he asks “what would you do if you wanted the ball to behave like that?” , then you start working on eliminating those elements from your delivery.

    He is kind of a lefty, so it was great fun to turn that back on him when it came to social engineering. This is a good example.

    What would you do if you wanted homicidal sociopaths to go on suicidal rampages at public schools?

  7. Hussein chews gum at Joplin memorial service.

    It’s hard to blame a tornado on the Tea Party.

  8. it’s still quite possible i think that our psychotic friend adam was inspired by the hyperventilations over the portland shopping mall dealio

  9. is anyone gonna actually watch this?

    the whole lead up to it on the cnn was impossibly gay so i bailed

  10. I cannot stand to listen to O! anymore. When the media swooned over his dabbing at his eyes, then went right into the “we must revisit the 2nd amendment” mongering, why should I expose my tv set to the danger of me throwing something through it?

  11. “When my 16 year old tells me that Jugears speaking to a national television audience about a school massacre when those babies haven’t had a decent burial yet is tacky, then you know it’s over the top showboating.”

    Obama thinks he is giving the grieving parents his ‘blessing’ which will make their loss more important to America and history.

    Remember, he’s the guy who celebrated the Rosa Parks Anniversary with a picture of himself in the front of an old bus. Like he needed to be added in some how.

  12. Obama thinks he is giving the grieving parents his ‘blessing’ which will make their loss more important to America and history.

    Nina Easton said tonight he was our “Parent-inChief”. I almost hurled. Or, like Darleen, hurled something at the teevee.

    It’s only a few more steps to Fuhrer.

  13. this was a deeply aberrant occurence not unlike superstorm sandy really

    between him and the royal devil baby i think we got some heavy antichrist shit going down

  14. I’m watching http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057916/ right now.

    Christ it sucks. It’s so smug and yet quaint in its arrogant pontification and wild predictions and silly “facts” and statistics. I am VERY disappointed in Rod Serling for figuratively riding around on the bones of Charles Dickens while dressing it all up as an Edward R. Murrow wet dream.

    Man, you let some smug sci-fi writer who seemingly wants to be a beatnik anywhere near ‘A Christmas Carol’ and you get a hilariously horrific circle jerk that sloppily fellates the UN as the only alternative to fake post nuclear pilgrims holding a witch trial where they want to kill a well spoken black guy for saying they should all work together after the bomb.

    Fuck Turner Classic Movies for putting this laughable squirt of self important shit on so close to the holidays.

  15. ” Presented without commercial interruptions, this “United Nations Special” was sponsored by the Xerox Corporation, the first of a series of Xerox specials promoting the UN. Director Joseph Mankiewicz’s first work for television, the 90-minute ABC drama was publicized as having an all-star cast (which meant that names of some supporting cast members were not officially released). In Rod Serling’s update of Charles Dickens, industrial tycoon Daniel Grudge has never recovered from the loss of his 22-year-old son Marley, killed in action during Christmas Eve of 1944. The embittered Grudge has only scorn for any American involvement in international affairs. But then the Ghost of Christmas Past takes him back through time to a World War I troopship. Grudge also is visited by the Ghost of Christmas Present, and the Ghost of Christmas Future gives him a tour across a desolate landscape where he sees the ruins of a once-great civilization. Written by Bhob Stewart

    A man sits back on Christmas and mourns his son who died 20 years before in World War II. He sits and listens to _Don’t sit under the apple tree_ and becomes more and more sullen. He is visited by three ghosts who center the experience they supply on not just Christmas, but War”

    Uggggghhhhh.

  16. from twitter:

    InpatientMed ?@InpatientMed

    The politics has been framed. “Gun control” = school safety. Disagree and you advocate murdering school children

    ———-
    Not surprising … if you question “climate change” you r advocating the murder of Gaia. If you question senseless regulations, you are advocating for dirty air and dirty water. If you question solar & wind, you must be in the pay of Big Oil.

    This isn’t debate, it’s the worst kind of demagoguery. We are The Other

  17. Learn what semi-automatic and high powered means and stop ranting about how kids can legally buy sawed off double bazookas. They can’t.

    Funny you mention that – I was wondering if Obama may decide to do an end-run around the “overhead” of attempting to pass new gun-control legislation by simply issuing an Executive Order placing handguns and semi-automatics under NFA status or some other dubious legal chicanery.

  18. i’m watching blade 2 in a creepy ass motel in decatur illinois killing a day while i wait to get the engine light thing checked out at the dealership tomorrow

    remember the ring? how it had those images in that little movie reel? there’s a picture that could fit right in there on the wall… but what creeps me out is they have the exact same picture on the other wall… who does that?

    throw in the creepy weather the decaying midwest town setting and the soulless employee people and it’s pretty much an eli roth movie

  19. Ok … went and saw The Hobbit today

    Loved it.

    2 down on my 3 winter film must see list

    Les Miz next.

  20. Rod Serling was always a one trick pony. All doom and gloom all the time and always with the post nuclear apocalyptic bullshit, tricksy space aliens, creepy robots and evil woman characters.

    Dude had some issues.

  21. I bet they have secret cameras watching you.

  22. Sure, I watched it. I expected to witness a fireball, since Obama mentioned ‘God’ not once but at least three times.

    But there was a dark ‘I’m successfully community organizing’ feel running with the entire narrative. Like water running into a storm drain, with that paper boat skating on the surface, luring childlike minds into the depths…

  23. Ok … went and saw The Hobbit today

    Damn. But I did catch teh Bond last weekend, and was impressed. Except for just a couple annoyances.

  24. Also from the Twitter…

    Matt Barber ?@jmattbarber

    Obama & the pro-death (abortion) left have neither the moral authority nor the credibility to lecture *anyone* about child safety…

  25. “Funny you mention that – I was wondering if Obama may decide to do an end-run around the “overhead” of attempting to pass new gun-control legislation by simply issuing an Executive Order placing handguns and semi-automatics under NFA status or some other dubious legal chicanery.”

    What I’m terrified of is an onerous ammo tax. Y’know, 70%. Then they’ll come up with bullet safety regulations to bump the price up even more. Like they did with fuel and cigarettes. The Dread Chief Justice Roberts has already determined that ANYTHING is possible under taxing authority. And just imagine how much revenue it can bring in to help victims of gun crimes! HAW HAW HAW. Then they can make owning a gun make it much harder to get in to see your doctor and raise the cost of your mandatory health insurance policy.

  26. ” blade 2″

    So which is lamer, sparkly vampires or veiny split-neck vampires?

  27. Looks like the preppers are the new tea party as the favorite group to demonize.

  28. i wouldnt doubt it

  29. Darleen, Hobbit was pretty good, which was a relief after I started hearing bad things. I went to see the 3D version and discovered that three hours of 3D kind of tires out the eyes.

  30. blade 2 sucks so far but it beats watching schmaltz on cnn

    still havent seen any twilights for to compare though

  31. killing a day while i wait to get the engine light thing checked out at the dealership tomorrow

    many auto parts stores can check what’s causing the check engine light to be on.

  32. such as autozone

  33. Message of ‘A Christmas Carol': be concerned for your fellow man and keep the spirit of christmas, charity, generosity, love, and joy alive in your heart every day.

    Message of ‘Carol for Another Christmas': Support the UN in all things, especially collectivist things, for it is the only possible hope for a sane and humane world and OMG nucular bombs y’all! GWWAAAGGHHH!! Also, the ghosts are a bunch of faux-street, stuck up, ranting little pricks. But listen to them because you are worse! Boooo!!!

  34. Gun bans are dumb.

    Arming teachers is dumb.

    Mass shootings are not new. They are not on the rise. They are a byproduct of a free society. Just like car accidents, lawnmower accidents, drug ODs, domestic violence, and most other things that can go wrong. It’s not fixable. The cure will be worse than the cause (and it won’t be a cure).

  35. I suppose it is gauche to notice how many of these spree killers are young men chemically lobotomized by psychotropic drugs?

    It’s the guns, they say.

  36. oh really i didnt know that… now its too late for today… but i have so many miles to go it’s probably a good idea to have someone take a good look at it

  37. My mother-in-law has a 3D TV and her cable system in Chattanooga offers a couple of 3D channels so one night we watched an old college football game (last season). It was kind of fun. The TV uses battery-powered 3D glasses that filter what’s on the screen by which eye it’s intended for.

    I’ve also seen an IMAX movie that was post-edited somehow for 3D despite not having been filmed in 3D. The theater handed out what seemed to be unpowered glasses and they worked pretty well (but the movie was a documentary that was less than two hours). Probably the glasses work the way the post-editing did, so it was all fake 3D and we were all just fooled by the power of suggestion or something, I dunno.

    I’m sure glad the little god-king’s speeches aren’t 3D. I’d tear up my knuckles trying to get my hands around his throat. Assuming I was watching the speech. Which I wouldn’t, because I don’t.

    But if I did.

  38. slipperyslope

    is dumb.

  39. pal

    I saw it in 2d and was very very happy.

  40. Arming teachers is dumb.

    I don’t think anyone is saying we should arm teachers, but that teachers should be able to arm themselves.

    Outlaw gun free zones.

  41. i’m watching blade 2 in a creepy ass motel in decatur illinois killing a day while i wait to get the engine light thing checked out at the dealership tomorrow

    Oh, man. I grew up in Decatur. You have my deepest sympathies. I can’t even recommend a good restaurant to you because there aren’t any. In fact, my one recommendation would be to get the f*** out as soon as possible, before they figure out what a pansified Kalifornian nancy-boy you are. :D

    What part of town are you staying in?

  42. go it’s probably a good idea to have someone take a good look at it

    to avoid being hosed by the dealer you might go to the parts store 1st so you know before what is wrong. the test takes maybe 2 minutes to do.

  43. im by where the interstates meet… near the mall and a cracker barrel

    i cant do cracker barrel

    there’s a mexican place i tried last night that i wont go back to

    i think im just gonna skip eating today

  44. Let’s do a back of the envelope on arming teachers:

    “There were 52,447 deliberate and 23,237 accidental non-fatal gunshot injuries in the United States during 2000″ – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

    So let’s call that a ballpark of 75,000 people shot per year – either on purpose or by accident.

    Supposedly, 32% of households own guns. If there’s 115 million households, that’s 37 million households with guns.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/31/politics/gun-ownership-declining/index.html

    So the number of gun households / number of people shot = 493

    In other words, about 1 out of 500 households with a gun ended up with someone in that household shooting someone on accident or on purpose. This is per year.

    So if there are 3.3 million teachers in the US, and you arm them all, you could expect about 6,600 people to get shot on purpose or accident from the newly armed teachers.

    That’s to prevent 20 people from getting killed in a school shooting every so often. And, you should probably arm all the school staff, not just teachers, right?

    Fucking brilliant fellas.

  45. ok that’s a good idea mr. newrouter

  46. drudge updated with a schmaltz report

  47. nobody is proposing arming all teachers

  48. It’d be a nice improvement to be able to see at a glance what percentage of comments were noise before going into any given thread.

  49. “I don’t think anyone is saying we should arm teachers, but that teachers should be able to arm themselves.
    Outlaw gun free zones.”

    No LBascom we are clearly mandating that every school teacher be fitted with no less than three manned battleship turrets, cruise missile launchers, air and surface radar, and an aegis system. We will teach our children behind a virtual Maginot line and they shall be guarded by flights of circling strategic bombers and ground attack planes such as A-10s and AC-130s at all times.

  50. Slippery Slope is the Champion.

    Alphie, Actus and Caric pray in his direction five times a day.

  51. For every 500 teachers that you let bring a gun to school, you’ll end up with someone shot. Let’s say teachers are extra super careful, and you make it 1/1000. That’s still a lot more people shot than what we have now. Unless hardly any bring guns, which means it won’t stop any mass shootings.

  52. SCIENCE!

  53. No LBascom we are clearly mandating that every school teacher be fitted with no less than three manned battleship turrets, cruise missile launchers, air and surface radar, and an aegis system. We will teach our children behind a virtual Maginot line and they shall be guarded by flights of circling strategic bombers and ground attack planes such as A-10s and AC-130s at all times.

    I like how your now scoffing at the ideas that teachers carry guns. Progress? Probably just douchery, but I’m rooting for you.

  54. i’ma betting bad oxygen sensor

  55. Teachers will also be required to integrate themselves into a C3 fire control network and abstain from using birth control or experiencing guilt free pleasure unless they are black in which case they will be put back in chains that Joe Biden’s prophecy might come to pass as it was written. Koo koo ka-choom.

  56. i think at least the principal should be armed

  57. I like how your now scoffing at the ideas that teachers carry guns.

    Spectacularly adept point-dodging.

  58. “I like how your now scoffing ”

    I’m scoffing at your insipid strawman as usual, because that’s all your sophistic nonsense ever merits.

  59. Might solve some discipline problems in the schools. Might even be the 2000’s version of nuns with rulers.

  60. i’ma betting bad oxygen sensor

    happyfeet’s car or slipperyslope’s brain?

  61. I’m thinking what we need is we need forcefields like in Dune and then students only need to fear special ‘slow’ bullets. I know it’s not available now, but since need it, if we mandate it and subsidize it and punish other forms of defensive armor and security, then maybe the tech will bootstrap itself somehow like solar power and renewable carbon neutral energy will. Someday. Of course if anyone invents the lasgun we’ll have a very serious problem on our hands.

  62. Spectacularly adept point-dodging.

    I am not that impressed. Is it really that hard to dodge something a mile and a half over your head?

  63. Happy, buy the part at the Autozone if they can diagnose the problem. Then go get it fixed. Dealers will hose you on parts. If there is a Midas Muffler type place and it isn’t a hard fix, I’d go there before I’d go to a dealership.

    They are usually amiable and have better coffee. And sometimes fresh donuts.

  64. Slippy, guns scare and confuse you, huh?

    Sounds to me like police should quit carrying guns too. They kill far more people on accident than they ever save.

    What’s your statistics on knife injuries. I bet people with knives get cut far more often than people without. Probably outta be a law…

  65. i will let you know i have no idea at all

  66. Guns, property rights, math, spending reductions…

  67. i will try somewhere like that first leigh i tend to get hosed on this sort of thing a lot

  68. Those stats are bullshit. Everyone I know has guns and I don’t know of a single one who has shot someone or been shot.

  69. hey slipshod, do those stats filter out criminal use of guns?

    You know, gangbangers (many of whom r minors) shooting each other? Guns used in drug deals? Criminal enterprise territory disputes?

    If not, the stats are worse than worthless, they are propaganda in service of gungrabbing agenda.

  70. Is it a check engine light? How many miles are on it? It might just be an ‘I need a 50,000 mile check-up” thing and you can ignore it.

  71. mostly I’m just wondering if they had t-shirts, like after the Gabby Giffords shooting.

  72. “Those stats are bullshit. Everyone I know has guns and I don’t know of a single one who has shot someone or been shot.”

    You only knew 490 people this year though, so you haven’t reached the required energy threshold for reaction yet. But if one of those guns is a semi-automatic, military grade, an assault weapon, looks like a machine gun, or is ‘high powered’ that might act as a catalyst and facilitate the reaction, so be very careful!

  73. I’d still go grouse hunting with Dick Cheney though. I bet statistically people hardly ever shoot their hunting companions twice.

    Also, I’m not a lawyer, so there’s that. I mean, I bet lawyers get “accidentally” shot more than the statistical norm…

  74. Everyone I know has guns and I don’t know of a single one who has shot someone or been shot.

    Bullshit. Only 32% of them do.

    Google it.

  75. I’m in the 70s I think… I’ve done about 12k this trip so far

  76. Leigh be VERY CAREFUL not to make the acquaintance of more than two people for the rest of the year! Save them for next year! 490 people is enough people to have some social connection to in a year. That’s more than one person to say hello to a day. Three more people and BANG gun accident. Their safety is in your hands Lee!

    Unless they know more than 493 people on their own… then it’s their own damned fault!

    The gods of the copy book headings do not favor the gregarious when guns are involved.

  77. Okay, Beemoe’s crack was WAY better than mine. Way better. And much shorter. Yipes!

  78. Dick Cheney is mostly into killing helpless baby seals with a cheese grater these days. Birdshot was too humane a means of dispatching his game, and no one likes doves or quail much anyway, so he had to go back to baby seals.

  79. Bullshit. Only 32% of them do.

    Heh.

  80. I don’t discount that some gun accidents happen

    But people fall off roofs, ladders, in the bath tub, down the stairs.

    Hell, watch “Renovation Realities” sometime and cringe at what people do with power tools.

    Every summer, children die in back yard pools.

    Guess what? Life has a lot of shitty moments.

  81. Mass shootings are not new. They are not on the rise.

    Not new but they did rise in frequency after 1960 and then fell back a bit in the late 90s. There are reasons which are spelled out in this piece that I linked on the other thread. This is not just in the USA but has happened in every other nation which followed the same course in how they dealt with the violent insane among us.

  82. “So if there are 3.3 million teachers in the US, and you arm them all, you could expect about 6,600 people to get shot on purpose or accident from the newly armed teachers.”

    Nonsense.

    If you exclude criminals and morons the number is very small. However, I suspect the concept of “representative sample” is beyond you.

    Unless, of course, you’re suggesting that teachers are criminals and morons.

  83. even tazers would be better than what these connecticut people tried

    that just didn’t work very well at all

  84. So if there are 3.3 million teachers in the US, and you arm them all, you could expect about 6,600 people to get shot on purpose or accident from the newly armed teachers.

    If you were an idiot, you could expect that. If you were rational, you could assume that said teachers’ guns would be under their constant control and wouldn’t leave their holsters until such time as they were needed.

  85. By the way: in the time and place where I grew up (and how I’d love to be back there) not just the teachers but the students routinely brought their rifles and shotguns to school. The parking lot was full of vehicles with gun racks.

    Funny, no one got shot. Ever.

  86. even tazers would be better than what these connecticut people tried

    Yeah. Throwing women at the shooter ain’t gonna git ‘er done.

  87. Slippy, guns scare and confuse you, huh?

    I actually like to shot. They don’t really scare or confuse me at all. But I do appreciate how instantaneous they are if you fuck up or are careless or distracted.

    I don’t discount that some gun accidents happen
    But people fall off roofs, ladders, in the bath tub, down the stairs.

    That’s not the question. The question is, do the accidental and intentional shootings that would happen as a result of more armed people in schools surpass the number of people saved when a shooter shows up.

  88. nopers

  89. But if one of those guns is a semi-automatic, military grade, an assault weapon, looks like a machine gun, or is ‘high powered’ that might act as a catalyst and facilitate the reaction, so be very careful!

    Haven’t you heard? “High-powered” is so passe these days.

    The new worry is about those evil “High-speed” weapons.

  90. I actually like to shot.

    Ok, then.

  91. Funny, no one got shot. Ever.

    Funny, I went to public schools for a dozen years, some of which had close to 2,000 students in them, and no one ever showed up an massacred a bunch of people. Ever. I know lots of people who’s kids go to school, and no one has ever showed up at one of those schools and killed tens of people either. Ever.

    And the point of your brilliant anecdote is?

  92. If there is a Midas Muffler type place and it isn’t a hard fix, I’d go there before I’d go to a dealership.

    Midas will screw you too. It’s right there in their business plan. An independent shop will at least give you a chance of finding an honest soul. Use Angie’s List, if you have it.

  93. “High-powered” is so passe these days.

    Don’t underestimate the power of…well, power.

    Sure, it’s expensive. Sure, ammo is six bucks a round. Live a little.

  94. “And the point of your brilliant anecdote is?”

    That you’re totally full of shit and spouting made-up numbers?

    “no one ever showed up an massacred a bunch of people”

    Yep. Bunches of people have never been massacred when the populace was disarmed.

    Wake me up when the death toll from school shootings exceeds that from left-wing governments, m’kay, Skippy?

  95. Huh. Seems there are 800,000 gun toting law enforcement officers in the US, but

    A National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund preliminary report said that in 2011, 62 law enforcement deaths are attributed to firearms, 60 deaths are attributed to traffic-related instances and 44 are attributed to other causes

    Well. That’s gotta skew the statistics…

  96. I actually like to shot.

    I really like to shit, especially when I get back from the range. Very satisfying.

  97. no one ever showed up an massacred a bunch of people

    So? People called in bomb threats at my elementary school in the 60s and there were never any bombs, either.

    That’s not the question

    There was a question in there? You just asserted that X number of guns would yield Y number of victims.

  98. But I do appreciate how instantaneous they are if you fuck up or are careless or distracted.

    Why do you hate cars? And carmakers? Admit, you’re just anti-union aren’t you?

  99. I know lots of people who’s kids go to school, and no one has ever showed up at one of those schools and killed tens of people either.

    I believe you meant to use the possessive “whose” rather than the contraction for “who is”.

    Please continue condescending though, moron.

  100. I’m waiting for Obama or the UN to declare the US a gun free zone.

  101. ” Sure, it’s expensive. Sure, ammo is six bucks a round. Live a little.”

    $9400 ? That’s half way to a smart car! Well, a crappy one anyway.

  102. “Well. That’s gotta skew the statistics…”

    That can’t be right. Mr. Statistical GEEEENIUS tells us that the correct number for 800,000 LEOs is 1,600. He calculated it on the back of an envelope*. What’s this “62” shit?

    * By “calculating” I mean “wiped his ass with it and pretended he had meaningful numbers”.

  103. The question is, do the accidental and intentional shootings that would happen as a result of more armed people in schools surpass the number of people saved when a shooter shows up.

    Are you suggesting that the educated professionals that are tasked with teaching our children would get all randomly shooty? You might be on to something. Of course, everybody’s shooty in gun-free Chicago.

  104. “Why do you hate cars? And carmakers? Admit, you’re just anti-union aren’t you?”

    Next thing you know the sumbitch’ll tell me that I cain’t raise leopards in my backyard no more. Shit! Where does it end?

  105. Teachers : smart enough to educate your kids, deserve much higher pay, are far too important to the future of our country to have their performance measured by standardized tests, but still too dumb to carry a gun. Unlike security guards, body guards, (and anyone who works for a Federal agency).

  106. Yep. Bunches of people have never been massacred when the populace was disarmed.

    Ongoing as always.

  107. The question is, do the accidental and intentional shootings that would happen as a result of more armed people in schools surpass the number of people saved when a shooter shows up.

    Well, police stations are filled with people with guns. How often are there accidental shootings there? How often do bad guys show up to commit massacres there?

  108. Teachers: heroic and staunch defenders of indoctrination, er education. And not to be trusted with firearms or anything pointy.

  109. The new worry is about those evil “High-speed” weapons.

    Wow. Act of Valor made it into the meme-generation matrix.

  110. “How often do bad guys show up to commit massacres there?”

    There was a case in Washington state a decade or so ago where a guy tried to stick up a gun store that also had several cops inside as customers.

    That was a mistake.

  111. Teachers aren’t even to be trusted with with paddles, people.

    You are seriously advocating giving them guns?

  112. Well, the dude reportly had a .223. High speed makes more sense than high power, although not in the way the reporter meant.

  113. I love it when you read about stupid criminals who try to stick up cop bars, Spies.

    Crime makes you stupid.

  114. You know who would be mad if teachers started packing? That kid that got suspended for pretending a chicken finger was a gun.

    Too bad though, that’s the kinda policy that works!

  115. “There was a case in Washington state a decade or so ago where a guy tried to stick up a gun store that also had several cops inside as customers.”

    If there had been 493 gun owners in that store then there would have been at least one gun accident and the stick up guy could have used that as a distraction to empty out the register. You know I’m right. ‘Cause of fuckin’ math-a-physics n’ shit.

  116. Found the news story.

    There was only one actual cop inside, not several, but the outcome was as would be expected nonetheless.

  117. Slippery Slope is the Champion. Alphie, Actus and Caric pray in his direction five times a day.

    heh
    also I just read on facebook that this was an excellent speech by Obama, one of his best ever.

    I can’t bring myself to watch it in case it’s like that Ring movie

  118. Someone is furiously googling for multiple retorts at this very moment. I can feel it in my bones.

  119. Night everyone.

  120. I don’t google any more bh for fear that I might get scroogled and have all my frying pans might catch on fire. I like to fry things.

  121. It is a danger to be aware of, palaeo.

  122. heh, Texas, wadda bunch a cards thinkin’ to take meaningful action.

  123. I got bing-banged once. It wasn’t pretty. I slept real soundly afterward though.

  124. “also I just read on facebook that this was an excellent speech by Obama, one of his best ever.”

    Supposedly he’s going to use executive orders to Do Something.

  125. Don’t underestimate the power of…well, power.
    Sure, it’s expensive. Sure, ammo is six bucks a round. Live a little.

    I’m holding out for an M41A, myself. 10 mm explosive-tip, caseless, light-armor-piercing rounds. If I can afford the tax stamp, I’m going to get the model with the 30mm grenade launcher mounted underneath!

  126. “It was unclear how many of the 50 or so teachers and staff members will be armed this fall because Thweatt did not disclose that information, to keep it from students or potential attackers. ”

    Well with 50 teachers that could be as much as 10% of the Slippery Slope 1/493 gun accident risk threshold. I wonder what 1/10 of a gun accident looks like.

  127. Obazma thinking to make the praetorian guard stack up all their weapons on the National Mall in a “big fucking deal” gesture so we can finally get an answer to the question “how high is the pile?”

  128. If one of every hundred teachers brings a gun to school… ss still won’t be able to read or write at an adult level.

  129. Palaeo, statistically they are as safe as if there was no guns on campus. When they hit 500 though, someones gotta die.

  130. “When they hit 500 though, someones gotta die.”

    Yep. That’s the way it works. Ask the people who stopped at two children when they found out that 1 out of 3 babies is Chinese.

  131. Tom Brady? The Master. Shame it has to be on NBC.

  132. “I’m holding out for an M41A, myself.”

    What? Phaser not your style? Don’t trust the UNSC BR55HB SR not to jam on you when the hills are thick with covies ? Don’t like the kick of the Dorsai cone rifle? Is a humble phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range too good for ya?

    Picky picky picky.

  133. Do you suppose, if you told slippery that a majority of accidents happen inside the home, he’d move?

  134. I wanna bazooka.

    Not one of those dangerous high speed ones though.

  135. The logic is perfect. When we outlaw pencils and guns are the only lead allowed in school, of course they’ll be more accidents.

    Human shields = humane.

  136. I want a beam rifle. I don’t even know what it does or if it’s safe to lay it on your lap but I want one. BEAM RIFLE. You’d have to be nuts not to want something that sounds so damned cool.

  137. He heard most car accidents occur within a mile of home, so he leaves his car at the gas station a mile and a half from home.

  138. Sure, people start dying when 500 guns make their way onto campus. Of course. That’s just science, everyone knows that.

    At 600 though, that’s when it begins to rain poison beetles and nuns begin to slaughter kittens in the street.

  139. Personally, I can’t be bothered with anything smaller than a GAU-8/A rotary cannon.

    For a carry piece, anyway.

  140. I’m holding out for an M41A, myself. 10 mm explosive-tip, caseless, light-armor-piercing rounds. If I can afford the tax stamp, I’m going to get the model with the 30mm grenade launcher mounted underneath!

    Well, if you can’t find a phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range, I guess it’ll do.

  141. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said she would push legislation next year to ban future sales of military-assault weapons like those used in the elementary school shooting. The bill will ban big clips, drums and strips of more than 10 bullets.

    Could the writers be only a little more intentionally incoherent, please? Then maybe no-one would bother to think they’re attempting to make a point.

  142. “Strips”? You mean like those old-school rolls of caps?

  143. Pfff. Airforce pussy gun. No thanks. Big Bertha or nothing. Self-propelled please.

  144. Truth be told, Palaeo, it’s the digital counter.

    Instead of having to extract the mag to see only two rounds left (gasp!), I can just check the read-out before I make my awesome zombie hoard destroying richochet shots with the three rounds in my possession.

  145. “Self-propelled please.”

    I think that would still be legal, as long as it was slow enough.

  146. That wasn’t even the worst example from that article. This was the worst hands down: “In November 2009, Obama traveled to Fort Hood, Texas, to speak at the memorial service for 13 service members who were killed on the post by another soldier.”

  147. Wait-a-sec? Does the counter tell you how many rounds are in the magazine, or how many total rounds you have?

    *shit*

  148. I totally support dynamite free zones for schools, but why am I having such a hard time getting my hands on a case of stun grenades? They’re non-lethal for crying out loud!

  149. Maybe they think it works like a power stapler or nail gun. Just break off a “strip of bullets” and load it in.

  150. So those crazy clips that stick out above the breach of Garands are finally going to be banned? Good, maybe the Garands will start functioning again.

  151. “Wait-a-sec? Does the counter tell you how many rounds are in the magazine, or how many total rounds you have?”

    I don’t know, I didn’t watch Aliens that carefully.

    But in Halo it’s measuring what’ sin your AR or BR clip. How much you have total is on the hud of your Mjolnir powered armor helmet or your ODST tactical display. I still haven’t figured out why I can only pick up two of each grenade though.

  152. “So those crazy clips that stick out above the breach of Garands are finally going to be banned? Good, maybe the Garands will start functioning again.”

    Bad news for Mauser enthusiasts I guess. And Han Solo.

  153. In Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Redford got a six bullet strip.

    Inflation maybe?

  154. Friends of SS and dalek bring a calming balm to the “conversation on gun control.”

  155. Has it actually been for a fact confirmed that he used the Bushmaster as well as the Glock and the Sig? I ask because in the back of the car is good enough for “possession” from a LEOs point of view, which is more than good enough for the media, even if none of the victims was killed by a .223.

    If that’s what happened. I don’t know.

  156. I heard it was only the bushy master what he used

  157. The current run of stories has the murderer taking the Bushmaster into the school, leaving a shotgun in the car. According to one story I’ve read, he never used the handguns in the school, save to shoot himself.

  158. Huh. Seems there are 800,000 gun toting law enforcement officers in the US, but

    A National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund preliminary report said that in 2011, 62 law enforcement deaths are attributed to firearms, 60 deaths are attributed to traffic-related instances and 44 are attributed to other causes

    Oh, I see. You weren’t clear. You want to buy teachers a service weapon, put them through firearms training, buy their ammo, have frequent range days, and have them qualify with their weapon on a regular basis. Seems like a lot of tax dollars, and some might question if it’s the best use of resources considering that many more kids die in car accidents going to and from school than will ever die in school shootings, but OK, I guess.

    Why do you hate cars?

    Why can’t you follow a conversation? When did I hate cars?

    Well, police stations are filled with people with guns. How often are there accidental shootings there? How often do bad guys show up to commit massacres there?

    So you’re confirming that you want to pay time and money to have teachers trained (and have that training maintained) on firearms to the same level as police officers?

    Teachers: heroic and staunch defenders of indoctrination, er education. And not to be trusted with firearms or anything pointy.

    Yes, they went into education because they have a high aptitude for, and interest in, firearms.

    Because you guys live in a world where accidental shootings just never happen. Certainly not to the tune of 25,000 per year. And every intentional shooting is gang related, vs. say, just ½ of them.

    And, you apparently can’t even add, and yet want to be taken seriously. It makes me wonder why you’re so interested in having teachers pack heat, when, apparently, most of you have never even had a teacher. They’re apparently these wonder-beings that are naturally proficient with firearms but want to destroy America and keep kids stupid because unions.

  159. The Pravda keeps changing on which weapon(s) he used.

    Even by the low standards of the MBM, the reporting on this has been shitful.

  160. Thanks.

    Wonder why the “M-4″ was in the car on Friday.

  161. I hate unions they pervert everything they touch like obama

  162. I think it’s going to be a lot like the Zimmerman/Martin case Ernst. It will take a good while to separate out the bullshit, speculations, confusion, assumptions, misunderstandings, unbridled sensationalism, hallucinations, boiler plate narrative reinforcements, and morbid wishing, from the facts.

  163. “, have frequent range days, and have them qualify with their weapon on a regular basis”

    You obviously don’t have any idea of how little training most LEOs actually do, and how low the standards are.

    How about you address the point, namely that your numbers are total bullshit?

  164. There he goes arguing with himself again.

    It’s a bad sign people. I’m telling you.

  165. One of those stories has the murderer discharging “hundreds” of rounds inside the school, with “hundreds” still available on his person after he suicided. So, grains of salts? Probably best.

  166. My mom and dad were both teachers. Hunters too. I’m pretty sure it was my mom that bagged the famous movie star, Bambi.

    Looked just like him anyway…

  167. The O! speaks.

    Mr. Obama said that he will use the power of his office to confront the spate of shootings that have claimed so many lives. He was not specific, but he made it clear that he will pursue change in the face of political opposition that has stopped new gun laws for years.

    “I’ll use whatever power this office holds to engage my fellow citizens,” he said, “in an effort aimed at preventing more tragedies like this. Because what choice do we have?”

    Mr. Obama said the nation is failing at what he called “our first task,” which he said was to care for the children of the nation.

    “It’s our first job. If we don’t get that right, we don’t get anything right,” he said, asking: “Can we truly say, as a nation, that we are meeting our obligations? Can we honestly say that we are doing enough to keep our children — all of them — safe from harm?”

    Mr. Obama asked whether the nation is doing enough to give all children a chance at a good life with “happiness and with purpose.”

    “If we are honest with ourselves, the answer is no,” he said. “We are not doing enough, and we will have to change.”

    As noted there, Obama has two meanings for “We”. In success it means himself, in shortcoming or failure it means us. This is the “us” and he means to change us. For the worse likely.

  168. How about you address the point, namely that your numbers are total bullshit?

    The part about if you had, 800,000 armed teachers (say, 1 in 4) you’d have more accidental and intentional shootings than from school shooters? By a lot? Pretty hard to see how that’s bullshit statistic. But you live in a land without reason, so maybe *over there* it’s BS.

  169. Last I heard the car gun was a shotgun and the bushmaster was used and had a ‘high capacity’ 30 round clip.

    I wonder how many normal rounds a high capacity round is the equivalent of? Because 30 rounders are standard for 5.56 mm You can get smaller magazines for hunting and for the AWB long magazine ban, but that doesn’t make 30 some crazy high unreasonable number.

  170. I’ve been out of the country for a few days.

    I knew that the call for sensible gun control was coming amd I didn’t even lift a brow when I saw that Hilary had figured out that this was an awesome opportunity to get out of testifying under oath, but I did laugh a little when my friend said I was a little to cynical.

  171. “Pretty hard to see how that’s bullshit statistic”

    No, it is not.

  172. “It’s our first job. If we don’t get that right, we don’t get anything right,” he said, asking: “Can we truly say, as a nation, that we are meeting our obligations? Can we honestly say that we are doing enough to keep our children — all of them — safe from harm?”

    Not bad questions. And the straightforward answer to his rhetorical is yes, “[you] don’t get anything right”. But we’ve known this for quite some time now, nor do we expect anything from you, Mr. Obazma, other than suggestions 180 degrees out of phase with reality. So.

  173. “Why can’t you follow a conversation? When did I hate cars?”

    He’s using your own stupid tactics against you to show how utterly asinine they are.

  174. Slipshod is getting boring. It’s like he’s not even trying anymore. Or maybe he really is that dumb. Either way, boooring…

  175. Actually, it seems to me to be a fairly easy statistic to check out, assuming you know the right places to look.

    How many accidental discharges or shootings occur at the work place?

    My guess is most of them happen at home.

  176. “The part about if you had, 800,000 armed teachers (say, 1 in 4) you’d have more ”

    You didn’t say “more”. You gave a specific number.

    Which was bullshit, and demonstrably so.

  177. ” Oh, I see. You weren’t clear. You want to buy teachers a service weapon, put them through firearms training, buy their ammo, have frequent range days, and have them qualify with their weapon on a regular basis. Seems like a lot of tax dollars, and some might question if it’s the best use of resources considering that many more kids die in car accidents going to and from school than will ever die in school shootings, but OK, I guess. ”

    Nobody said ANY of that. Except you.

    ” So you’re confirming that you want to pay time and money to have teachers trained (and have that training maintained) on firearms to the same level as police officers? ”

    Nope. That is not what was said at any point. ‘Arm and train all the teachers with public monies ‘ is YOUR stupid canard version of ‘allow teachers to carry in the classroom’.

    ” Yes, they went into education because they have a high aptitude for, and interest in, firearms. ”

    This silly presumption regarding why people go into education and what they have interest in and aptitude for has fuck all to do with what exactly?

    ” Because you guys live in a world where accidental shootings just never happen. ”

    Nobody said that. We just said that your statistics were utterly worthless, laughable, idiotic bullshit because they are.

    ” And, you apparently can’t even add, and yet want to be taken seriously.”

    He is already taken far more seriously than any of your shit has been or will be.

    ” It makes me wonder why you’re so interested in having teachers pack heat, when, apparently, most of you have never even had a teacher. ”

    Yet another stupid vapid presumption from someone who seems capable of little else.

    ” They’re apparently these wonder-beings that are naturally proficient with firearms but want to destroy America and keep kids stupid because unions. ”

    And nobody said or agrees with any of that stupid shit either. Do you ever type anything that isn’t a lot of dumb, off the cuff, punk noise? This isn’t Kos you know. There isn’t a loyal and stupid crowd of trained seals arping and clapping at every stupid thing you happen to fart out here.

  178. To be specific: the rate you claimed from your “representative sample”, which contains a very large number of criminals, drunks, and random morons, is ~1/500. The rate for LBascom’s sample, which consists of individuals with some cursory training, is ~1/13,000, or 1/26 of your claim.

    Yeah, I’m okay with calling your numbers bullshit.

  179. We may ought to consider whether the troll isn’t a simple anonymous timewaster, but a professional anonymous timewaster.

  180. “‘Arm and train all the teachers with public monies ‘”

    Nothing can happen in his world without public monies, I’m thinking.

  181. “professional anonymous timewaster.”

    He’s not doing a very good job, if so. I’m bashing him in the dead time while I’m waiting for something to compile.

  182. Something inherent in being a timewaster essentially involves not doing a very good job. Otherwise there might slip some matter worth paying attention to, whereas in the event, there never does.

  183. Earlier reports said that Adam Lanza had relied on two handguns, a Glock and a Sig Sauer, during the shooting, while a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. But according to a CNN news update:

    [Lt. J. Paul Vance] told reporters that Adam Lanza used a Bushmaster AR-15 “assault-type weapon” most of the time at the school. Lanza was armed with magazines that held 30 bullets each, according to Vance. He said there were hundreds of bullets for the weapons as well.

    Vance told reporters that an additional weapon, a shotgun, was recovered from a vehicle Lanza parked outside of the school. The gunman also had a Glock 10mm and a Sig Sauer 9mm, multiple magazines and additional ammunition.

  184. I was in a bar when this happened. I was very vocal about not wanting to hear a thing he said except, “I resign as president of the United States.” Anyway, the bartender found another channel that was showing the game instead of Teh Once’s speech.

    I don’t know what he said, and I care little. However, I decided I probably need to purchase a few more guns as a precaution.

  185. No shit cranky.

    Thanks for the quote and link geoff.

    I’d be more inclined to cut the media some slack on not getting the story right early,

    if they hadn’t spent most of the last twelve years proving what craven twatwaffles and crapweasels they were, that is.

  186. “Lanza was armed with magazines that held 30 bullets each, according to [police Lt. J. Paul ] Vance. He said there were hundreds of bullets for the weapons as well.”

    Hundreds, huh? Wonder how many magazines he was carrying.

  187. @palaeomerus: It’s a common flaw in progressive trolls. They think that if something is allowed, it must be automatically subsidized by the government.

    So when someone says teachers should be allowed to carry a weapon if they choose, he pretends the advocate wants money to be spent giving every teacher a weapon.

    IOW, he’s lying. Again.

  188. I’m at work, and pretty much any streaming app is blocked by the network here so I guess I’m lucky that I couldn’t watch the speech.

  189. A tragedy of this type inevitably resurrects memories of similar events in the past; Virginia Tech, Colombine, Jonesboro and others. But oddly enough, there is little mention of a school shooting that ended not with the gunman taking his own life, but with the suspect being forced to stop his rampage at the barrel of a gun, aimed by a school official who had the training and courage to fight back. We refer to the shooting that occurred in Pearl, Mississippi in October 1997.

    There are some similarities between events in Pearl 15 years ago, and what happened yesterday in Connecticut. The shooter in Mississippi, Luke Woodham, began his crime spree by murdering his mother at their home before heading to Pearl High School
    [...]
    Assistant Principal Joel Myrick took another approach. Long concerned about the possibility of shooting incident, Myrick kept a .45 pistol in his car. When shots rang out on that October morning, Myrick dashed to his car and retrieved the weapon, then returned to the school in search of the gunman. When the assistant principal confronted Woodham, the gunman surrendered. When police arrived, they found Myrick holding Woodham at gunpoint, his foot across the assailant’s neck.

  190. Here’s the source of the “hundreds” claim Ernst: [the murderer] who authorities say killed 20 children and six women in Connecticut, shot his mother in the head multiple times before heading to Sandy Hook Elementary School, where he fired hundreds of rounds and died with hundreds more at his disposal, police said Sunday.

  191. I’d be more inclined to cut the media some slack on not getting the story right early,

    …if they showed any interest in getting the story right late.

  192. Another line of attack for the left in opened up.

  193. Our media came of age in the Vietnam war, they perform now as they learned in their younger days, Spray&Prey journalism.

  194. No word yet on whether the shotgun recovered from the scene was a self aware nuclear laser shotgun with 666 carved into the barrel and heat seeking ammo or not.

  195. For every 500 teachers that you let bring a gun to school, you’ll end up with someone shot

    Indeed. Similarly, fewer people would be shot if police didn’t have them either.

  196. From that Daily Mail article Geoff and BT both inked:

    Lanza’s aunt Marsha said Nancy was ‘self reliant’ and that they talked a lot about how she was preparing for the economic meltdown.

    She said her former sister-in-law was meticulous about never leaving guns out, but made no secret of having an imposing firearm collection.

    It included not only the two handguns and semi-automatic assault rifle used in the killings but also two traditional hunting rifles.

    Add the shotgun that’s been reported, and you have, maybe, (memory fails) half the number of firearms in the house I grew up in. Truly, a fearsome and awe-inspiring collection.

    By the standards of Tom Leonard of the Daily Mail, that is.

  197. “semi-automatic assault rifle”

    lol

  198. Sorta like “bolt action machine gun”.

  199. I was surprised the word “arsenal” didn’t get applied.

  200. I wonder if “high capacity round” is due to the idiot thinking that a “round” of ammo is like a round of drinks — one for everybody.

    Still scratching my head over “strip of bullets”. Confusion over stripper clips?

  201. “Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said she would push legislation next year to ban future sales of military-assault weapons like those used in the elementary school shooting. “

    If you only ban stocks and fore grips and accesories you don’t have to worry about that pesky Second Amendment, you see. And if you are Di Fi your constituents are too fucking stupid to realize you didn’t really ban the gun.

  202. if it’s a time for love than it’s time for soledad obrien to knock it off

    screechy cunt

  203. when Dianne Feinstein comes begging like a cheap whore for a bailout for California

    people should remember her lust to exploit these dead murdered children

    and hold on tight to their monies

  204. More coming in on the kid’s reclusive traits. He had no social life whatsoever; his brother and father ignored him, he was cocooned by his mother. In HS he was ‘assigned’ school psychologists, and school security watched him closely, not because he was scary but that he was skinny and shy and might become a ‘victim’. Clearly he had no tribe, no gang; even the stoners avoided him.

    What he needed was was some real social interactions. Because he was a poor fit, no one wanted anything to do with him.

    Someone should’ve been allowed to minister to his soul, before it was too late.

  205. ‘feets. I’m’a minister to your soul right here and now.

    Under no circumstances should you, given your past failings with it (literally and figuratively), ever use the word ‘cunt’. You’ve no clue what one is, really. That canal ride when you were born doesn’t even count anymore.

  206. I still think she’s a screeching cunt, and an uncommonly obscene one, given the sick volume of kiddie death porn she’s producing

    and me I don’t contribute to her salary by subscribing to the cable tv or the satellite tv

    which, that’s good for my soul right there

  207. In the comments at the WSJ piece I linked, someone called for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment and banning all gun ownership by private citizens. Given that this event has spurred the proggy world to gleeful madness, such zealotry must be contained, because that desire is exactly what the UN wants as a mandate.

    We’ve need to look at these kids, at their social failures. Klebold and his other one were also socially blacklisted, and the Aurora kid too if memory serves. There’s where we need to focus attention, or we might see us become as Australia, UK and Canada.

  208. Heh. Maybe the kid needed someone like Kevin Jennings to help him ‘form a fist’, eh, ‘feets? At least that’d be a small social pool. A tribe, however tiny.

    But he’d have to move to a bigger town. Such activities, in Newton? likely not well received.

    Why didn’t someone give the kid a joint ?

  209. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4&feature=player_embedded#

    there’s a link Mr. narciso found what illustrates the perverse ravenousness with which the soledad obrien media feed on tragedy

  210. Oh, and this: he didn’t even have a car. He had to steal his mother’s. By that age, most kids are working, driving, schooling and well on their way to ‘fitting in’ at some level. Cocooned at home by Mom? Not the way to live.

  211. it’s “newtown” Mr. serr8d someone probably took the old one from them when they saw how defenseless they were

  212. Ga. He was horrid last night. Pissy this morning just thinking about it.

  213. he sees an opportunity to divide people and stoke hatred among them

    food stamp’s on that sort of thing like a chicken on a cheeto

  214. We should “marshal” a few teachers in every school.

    That would be kick ass.

  215. he sees an opportunity to divide people and stoke hatred among them

    I think he has bigger plans than that.

    A toothless society cannot be feared by the government.

  216. “Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said she would push legislation next year to ban future sales of military-assault weapons like those used in the elementary school shooting. “

    The survivors of the Littleton school massacre will be so relieved.

  217. McGehee says December 16, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    slipperyslope

    is dumb.

    Threadwinna!

  218. Why can’t you follow a conversation? When did I hate cars?

    This, from the guy that trys to float the suggestion that people here for some reason want to control the sex lives of others. Which is utter bunk, of course.

    People can fuck who they want, as far as I am concerned. Why, slippery can even go fuck himself, with or without contraception.

  219. Is it wrong that I no longer feel sorry for the sullen emo kid or the sad, disaffected fat kid? When I see them skateboarding alone in all black and looking baleful or sitting alone at the mall fixing sad/creepy stares on the pretty girls, I want to euthanize them.

    I am a bitch. Kill me now.

  220. Obama: “Newtown, you are not alone”

    Shut up, Mr. President Attention Whore.

  221. The world needs more bitches, Lisa.

  222. you need a John Hughes movie marathon and some Owl City in your cloud Lisa

    also maybe some selling real might could help

    remember it’s a time for love

  223. jesus

    selling real = sallinger

  224. People can fuck who they want, as far as I am concerned. Why, slippery can even go fuck himself, with or without contraception.

    I’d suggest a swordfish, frozen, and perhaps sideways for best results.

    Is it wrong that I no longer feel sorry for the sullen emo kid or the sad, disaffected fat kid? When I see them skateboarding alone in all black and looking baleful or sitting alone at the mall fixing sad/creepy stares on the pretty girls, I want to euthanize them.

    This kid didn’t even do malls.

    And because it seems our very Constitution depends on finding a solution to his sorts, we’d better start looking for answers.

  225. We should [AIR] “marshal” a few teachers in every school.

    That, and give the ‘pilots’ a box in the office with a gun in it.

    The only sensible approach to saving lives that came out of the 9/11 massacres.

  226. At 600 though, that’s when it begins to rain poison beetles and nuns begin to slaughter kittens in the street.

    Is that why that happened? All this time I thought it was because Chevy discontinued the Vega.

  227. the discussion we should be having is that parents need to be a bit more aware if they have a kid on the edge of the cliff. maybe all those guns in your home wasn’t such a great idea?

  228. jesus
    selling real = sallinger

    Don’t blame Jesus, blame auto-correct.

  229. the kid was an evil genius we’re probably lucky he went for the guns

  230. I get frustrated Mr. McGehee I usually master new technology faster than I am with this auto correct thing

    I hope I’m not getting old I still want a robot

  231. Holy shit geoffb! That is fucking badass!

    My brother-in-law teaches 4th grade. He is a 6th degree black belt and a very good shot. He grew up in Fort Pierce which is the asscrack of Florida. His dad made him, his brother, and his cousin go to karate just to keep them occupied so that they would not start selling crack. Also and his dad still likes to tell everyone that took them to the gun range because he figured if they were going to get sucked into gang life, the least he could do was make sure they their drive-by shootings were accurate and on the mark, lol. Happily – none of them turned out to be thugs. He and his brother are teachers and his cousin is retired from playing for the Marlins. My brother-in-law teaches at a shitty school in a dangerous neighborhood (he has a doctorate, but is very committed to improving math and science scores for underperforming populations – one hoodrat at a time). And seriously, I could totally see him doing some shit like that. Years back, when I came down to visit in anticipation of the birth of my niece. Back then he worked at a middle school that was epic in shittiness. I went with my sister to pick him up from work and observed him chasing two trespassing teens across the playground. He caught them at the chain link fence and took them down like a scene from Black Dynamite. It was hilarious.

    All teachers should be this way. Plus armed.

  232. Good news: Nikki Haley is appointing Tim Scott to Jim Demint’s seat.

    That’s pretty much like for like, Pablo. Now Scott can be even more inauthentic. I expect fireworks.

  233. Happy, I love autocorrect. My sister sends me the most hilarious texts sometimes, because she is really not interested in learning how to turn off autocorrect. So she continues to text the kindergarten mommies that she might be late for the coffee get-together because she can’t find her uterus – how the iphone intuits that anyone could be running around the house looking for their uterus instead of their car keys I will never know. Or telling her boss that she was finishing up a “dick tattoo selection” instead of a “trademark rejection brief”. I tried to get her to submit that one to that autocorrect site. That was a fucking winner.

  234. maybe all those guns in your home wasn’t such a great idea?

    Maybe all those guns not locked in a safe in your home wasn’t such a good idea.

    The instruction manuals to both my guns say don’t store guns and ammo in the same place. I violate that, because I don’t want to spring for another separate safe for ammo.

    Srsly, what’s safer than a safe? Do I need to put another safe inside the first safe, or next to it? What’s the point?

  235. I have one safe for the rifles, Slart, and one for the shotguns. I keep the rifle ammo in the shotgun safe, if that makes sense. The shotgun ammo is just in a locked cupboard.

  236. I am going to take your advice on the John Hughes movies. And maybe some Buffy reruns.

  237. Reading some of the dailymail articles on Lanza, I notice that his mother’s house looks very much like a castle.

    Which makes me go hmm.

  238. It may very well be 3700 sq ft, too. Which, that’s enough room to have a gun room AND an ammo room.

  239. Maybe 3,700 square feet d0oesn’t seem that big to me because we still haven’t furnished all of it and therefore don’t use all the rooms yet. But some of them are kinda reserved, also, for when the mother-in-law and her eight cats move in next year.

    I already feel like I need a second house on the property for when the hen-clucking and cat-hairballing get to be too much.

  240. OT – Adrian Peterson is a beast.

    /OT

  241. “Indeed. Similarly, fewer people would be shot if police didn’t have them either.”

    No no no! See Slippery thinks that those the experts pick to be police have the interest and aptitude necessary to wield guns. and everyone else does not.

    ‘From each according to his ability’ and all that.

  242. “I hope I’m not getting old I still want a robot”

    Those robots they got us so excited about turned out to be stuff like 5-axis CNC mills and Roombas (TM). Don’t feel bad.

    Robby can’t make you a big pile of free liquor yet.

  243. “Why didn’t someone give the kid a joint ?”

    He was mellow enough to bust into a school, shoot a bunch of kids and teachers, and then off himself. He didn’t need anyone to cool his nerves. He was ice cold.

  244. Robby can’t make you a big pile of free liquor yet.

    I blame the christers what only want soulless automatons for to feed multitudes with a few fishes and some moldy old bread.

    Also, pickles. Chirp.

  245. But some of them are kinda reserved, also, for when the mother-in-law and her eight cats move in next year.

    Have you already designated a place that is all your own to hide in? I hope so. If you set it up right you would rarely have to leave it.

  246. “I knew that the call for sensible gun control”

    The call for sensible gun control is like the call for sensible censorship. There have at times been calls for sensible conquest, sensible, slavery, and sensible genocide. No one would be happy to find out that the mafia is only whacking people the sensible way. We are like monkeys who never seem to learn the old tricks used against is. Sensible is a frosting designed to hide a sinister cake of oppression, corruption, or aggression. You can’t do something bad in a sensible way that takes away its badness.

    Sadly there are no calls yet for a sensible manned space program, sensible spending cuts, a sensible program to lower the debt ceiling (raising it is insane), or sensible reductions in the power of the federal government to maintain the constitutional liberty of her people.

    I can only hope that the country finds its nuts and brains in 2013 and this overreach and shit talk bites the democrats, and their lap dog press, in the ass super hard.

  247. SBP, welcome back! When slippy started making BS mathematical calculations, was anyone else reminded of alphie’s “Balloon Fence” idea for protecting Israel?

  248. I’d prefer that we take another look at that pesky 4th Amendment while we’re at it. Seems to me that the Founding Fathers stuck it in there to secure the rights of landed gentlemen in powdered wigs and waistcoats from harassment, not to allow skinny mushroom-haired goth weirdos to plot and plan a massacre.

    If the police had had the latitude to harass funny looking weirdos and search them capriciously, the killer might have been caught and his plan arrested before it was put into action.

  249. Have you already designated a place that is all your own to hide in?

    There’s a room where my main computer resides, but it too is underfurnished at the moment.

    I suppose there’s always the attic.

  250. If only auto-correct could punctuate.

    Jesus.

  251. McGehee, do you have a barn on your property? If so, I see Man Cave.

    A cat-free Man Cave.

  252. No barn. But if we had one there would probably be feral cats living in it. And my wife would stage a trap, neuter and return project.

    And I’d still be in the attic.

  253. Well, I guess the bright side is you should have no mice.

  254. This is why God created the neighborhood pub.

  255. The neighborhood pub has to be within stumbling distance.

  256. This is metro Atlanta. We don’t do neighborhood pubs. We have sports bars, and chain restaurants that try to be sports bars, and Hooter’s.

    Wait, what?

  257. I thought Hooter’s was a sports bar with more boobage. I haven’t been to one so I don’t know.

  258. I never saw a TV in Hooter’s. Never looked up that high.

  259. Well, obviously, the solution is for you to open up a tavern. You have control of the remote and can throw people out if they start pissing you off.

  260. I admit that if there are prominent boobies in the vicinity, I really cannot not look. Plus, my mind tends to empty out.

  261. That’s why they invented the push-up bra, cranky: so you guys will buy us stuff while your minds are blank.

  262. Apparently I was wrong about the square footage of my decidedly-non-2%-er house. My wife avers that it is not 3,700 square feet.

    It’s 4,700 square feet, she says.

    Still feels small.

    Oh, and our taxes won’t go up if Obama’s announced plan gets adopted. Unless he’s lying.

  263. The key, however, is for the poor dope to never see the echte ‘pushed-up’ things themselves, for in that eventuality he may latch on to the fraud. “That? Er, those? Couldn’t possibly constitute objects of desire,” he mumbles into his broth, while feeling his back pocket for his wallet.

  264. Nope, no peeking. You just get to watch our pendant necklaces dance across our cleavage when we take super deep breaths and look at you with wide, avaricious eyes.

  265. leigh, you forgot the thrown back shoulders with chin held proudly high. However, you gals are also known to give the occasional “down shirt” shot through a timely bend at the waist maneuver.

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