November 24, 2012

When Leftists use Twitter without a chaperone [Darleen Click]

As screencapped by SDA

Do note that Anthony De Rosa is a Reuters “reporter”.

Heh.

Posted by Darleen @ 11:01am
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  1. There’s a Shiite religious period underway this week. I see Pakistan has had to turn off all cell-phone service in some towns with heavy Shia presence because too many bombs (triggered by cell-phone calls) attacking Shia street processions have gone off across Pakistan. I learned this in a JPost article about arrests of Sunni bombers in Lebanon, prior to their intended attacks on Lebanese Shia gatherings. That religion stuff sure looks guaranteed to be conflicty where Islam is involved.

  2. That is a great comeback tweet. I am going to start following Robbie Guy.

  3. Anyone notice also that the Al Reuters’ reporter also blames Israel for the deaths of the human shields used by Hamas?

    So, I shoot at you. When you shoot back, I pull innocent bystander in front of me to shield me from your bullet. Then, I blame you for death of said innocent bystander.

    And this Leftard says it so glibly and matter-of-factly. He actually says “especially ‘human shield’ casualties”. As if the self-defense that Israel engages in is immoral; but inadvertently hitting human shields — dragged intentionally into the mix by the “palestinians” — is ESPECIALLY immoral.

    The total absence of anything resembling morality or sanity is astounding … or, it would be if I weren’t so used to it.

  4. Heh. He had that coming!

  5. Yuri

    It’s both law & a war crime that perps using civilians as hostage/shield are 100% responsible for their harm/death regardless of who harms them.

    De Rosa has lefty-emotions stuffed in where his brain should be.

  6. During some discussions with some leftie friends the past couple day I have learned that a new (to me) Orwellian twist in their language is that po mo moral equivalence has now been decalled up as “critical thinking”.

    In other words, if you try to make distinctions between the violence on both sides you are not critically thinking about the situation.

    We really do hardly speak the same language these days.

  7. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking

    Expertise in being being an expert.

  8. beemoe

    well, I guess if you think thoughtfully on the violence on both sides without having any moral principles to use as tools as you think your thoughtful thoughts then yeah, it would be “critical thinking” in the same way as thinking about how there’s nothing wrong with combining bleach & ammonia for a really clean clean could be called “good science” …

  9. “without having any moral principles to use”

    There’s the rub ain’t it? There is no such thing — outside the genuinely brain-dead patient in the so-called vegetative state, which is even then only to outward appearances a human being in the least comprehensive sense. Yes, that looks like a human being, but it never moves or gestures or speaks or listens or acts anything like a human being at all. Whereas these others over here pretending they don’t have moral sense are very much like lying human beings we’ve all known all our lives: they act all the time with moral sense, they just pretend they don’t.

  10. The core assumption here is that the Israelis were retailiating. This is very wrong and insulting. The Israeli’s are not willing to engage in a war of attrition at 20-1 or even 100-1 a la Kipling.

  11. The core assumption here is that the Israelis were retailiating.

    That was my first thought. You’d think that a reporter would occasionally read some news and thus know that they were attacking those firing the rockets and Hamas leadership/infrastructure.

  12. Anybody capable of true critical thought would grasp that instantly.

  13. You have to shoot through the human shields. Its the only way to de-legitimize that horrible notion in the long term.

  14. Best rebuttal yet.

    I tried, but it was probably buried in the avalanche.

    What morons. They don’t have the capacity to recognize sociopathic behavior, not among the Palis, not among the Soviets, not among their own selves.

    Make of that what you will.

  15. Mr. Guy’s response, though very clever, is fundamentally flawed – it assumes De Rosa has balls.

  16. I have a totally off topic question…sorry, but please help.

    I’m now shopping seriously for a generator, and am pulled towards something in the 7000 watt range, and propane powered. My question: Is 7000 watts good for to handle the needs of the modern household (in emergency conditions, naturally), and does a 5 gallon propane tank last as long as a 5 gallon petrol gas tank?

    Any guidance appreciated.

  17. My question: Is 7000 watts good for to handle the needs of the modern household (in emergency conditions, naturally),

    you might want consult your electric bill. mine shows my average daily/monthly energy usage.

  18. it assumes De Rosa has balls.

    Yowza!

    I the land of amazon, ovaries are bigger than balls, yet interchangeable (thanks to the superior sensitivities over the testicular).

    Haven’t you had a coupole of semesters of womens studies?

  19. That 0 shouldn’t be there.

    Or maybe it should…

  20. I’m also missing a n. Typical old dude…

  21. “We really do hardly speak the same language these days.”

    bemoe, you are very right; and I think it’s a lot more important than most conservatives realize.

    But I don’t think it’s Orwellian, it IS Orwell. That is, it’s not just Orwellian. It’s not Orwell-like or Orwell-esque. It is Newspeak, straight out of “1984″. And it is intentional and planned, and not merely an accumulation of common misuses of words. And it is done for the same reasons Orwell described in “1984″.

    Languages do evolve and change; but not radically over the course of 20 to 30 years. And no language evolves such that “black” becomes “white” and “critical thinking” becomes “the utter lack of critical thinking”.

    In other words: War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.

    Think about it, the first time you read “1984″, and read the above Party slogans; didn’t you say to yourself “Oh, that’s so extreme as to be absurd. No one could ever read such a thing and make sense of it; much less believe it as true.” ? That’s what I thought in 8th grade.

    Yet, here it is.

    This also isn’t the only way in which the Left in America uses “1984″ not as a cautionary tale, but as an actual 1:1 blueprint. When I say that, I’m picturing Winston Smith hiding in the two square feet of floor space in his apartment not visible to Big Brother, so that he could sneak a cigarette.

    Go ahead somebody, … anybody. Say it can’t happen.

  22. That’s 58 amps at 120 volts. 3, 20 amp circuits or 4, 15 amp ones. It should be enough to run your furnace (as long as it is gas or fuel oil and only uses electricity for the ignition and fan), refrigerator, freezer and lighting. Not A/C or an electric dryer. IIRC propane has less energy per unit of volume than gasoline.

    There should be a tag somewhere on each device that says how much power it draws.

  23. “Critical” joins “social” as a modifier meaning “not”, “non”, “no” when used by the left.

    As for “violence” I agree.

  24. Here’s a worksheet, Lee. I just bought a 6500/5500 watt that should take care of most of my place. If I can afford the gas…

  25. Well, Yuri, we have “tolerance” meaning accepting any speech that agrees with progressive speech, “diversity” actually meaning racial quotas, and “racism” meaning just about anything other than actual racism, so I would say your thesis that we are living “1984″ is fairly reasonable.

    I left out a lot of other Newspeak words that we are all used to hearing on a daily basis.

  26. I amuse myself by asking the speakers what they mean. This is particularly fun with people who crowd their speech full of euphemisms.

    Me: (interrupting) What does that mean?
    Speaker: What does what mean?
    Me: What you just said. You said ‘Because of X we’re all going to have to do Y’ What does that mean?
    Speaker: Everyone knows that —
    Me Why? Who says we all ‘have’ to do Y?
    Speaker: *sigh* It’s in the papers and on the news. Z said we have to do Y because of X.
    Me: Who is this Z? Does he have some sort of authority to act as an expert on X?
    Speaker: Well . . . He’s a, a . . . He knows these things.
    Me: How do you know that for sure? Isn’t he the guy who said Because of A, we all have to do B or we’ll die?
    Speaker: *shifts gaze* Well, yeah, but, certain facts came to light and he retracted that.
    Me: So what makes him right this time when he was so wrong last time?

    You get the picture.

  27. It is Newspeak, straight out of “1984?. And it is intentional and planned, and not merely an accumulation of common misuses of words. And it is done for the same reasons Orwell described in “1984?.

    Yes.

  28. - Population bomb
    - Global starvation
    - Ice age
    - Global warming Climate change

    Add other discredited theories whose only motivation was to control the behavior of others, to our financial detriment.

  29. Silent spring?

  30. geoffb, propane does have two advantages: 1. It’s one whack of a lot safer to store than the equivalent amount of gasoline. 2. Sometimes gas keeps flowing even when power is out.

  31. China syndrome…

    Paved continents… (ever seen a road in an area what supports vegetation a mere five to ten years after someone stops taking care of it. You couldn’t pave the damned world and leave it sterile and unchanging forever if you TRIED to.)

    World without ice caps in our lifetimes…

  32. How could I have forgotten “Silent Spring?” Millions have died from malaria who shouldn’t have thanks to banning DDT without any scientific evidence that it was harmful. The thin bird’s eggs have long since been shown to have nothing to do with DDT.

    Locally in MN, for years they were blaming frog mutations on human behavior, saying that we were releasing toxins into the ecosystem. Once they discovered that it was being cause by a virus, we didn’t hear anything more about it.

  33. Dengue Fever has raised its head in the Florida Keys and along the Gulf Coast. It can kill you dead and is also mosquito borne.

    Bring back the DDT, already.

  34. This is interesting. Amy Alkon, whilst being in full “The TSA is heinous bullshit” mode, is turning out a DHS attackbot in her comments section.

  35. May as well give my uneducated 2 cents on the generator issue.

    I am told (by the inestimably wise internets) that the average 3 person houshold uses 6000 kwh per month or a little over 8 kwh per day. I find this estimate of the average to be way high. My 2 person household used about 1500 kwh per month in the summer with the a.c. running most of the time. So, I’d guess that a 7 kw generator ought to do unless your consumption is very high and you do NOT plan to conserve when/if the generator is on.

    I’d go with propane. Geoffb says that he remembers propane to have less BTU per volume than gasoline. I remember it the other way ’round, but I’m probably wrong. Either way, I don’t think the difference is hugely significant. But, what might be significant is that they’re not the same volume. That is, the per unit volume comparison assumes normal pressure and temperature. The propane is pressurized. So they’ve crammed in more propane than 5 gal. could naturally hold under normal air pressure.

    Most important, though, is that gasoline is a bitch to store since the addition of ethanol. After a few months (depending on storage temps) it turns the ethanol/gasoline mix into a useless watery mess that won’t run anything. Then, you have to not only buy new gas, but figure out how to dispose of the useless chemical soup. I’ve got a chainsaw, brushwhacker, pressure washer and two 1 gallon jerry-cans that I now have to figure out how, when, & where to burn off without creating an explosion that scars me and leaves me permanently hairless.

    But it’s worth it to save the planet, eh?

  36. Here’s an easier (maybe) way to think of the generator thing. At 7kw, if the generator runs non-stop for 24 hours, it would keep lit seventy 100 watt light bulbs for those 24 hours.

    Other things use more juice than a 100 watt bulb. Still, 70 light bulbs is a shitload of light.

  37. There were baby versions of the “they say that…” phenomenon too.

    Trucks that might blow up (if NBC puts explosives on them to blow them up).

    Minitrucks that roll over (that pretty much DON’T really roll over unless you do stuff that will roll just about ANYTHING over)

    Toyota have cars that accelerate when you step on the brake (except data shows most of the drivers actually stepped on the gas).

    Food Lion selling rotting meat (because the undercover reporter guy who got a job there filmed himself selling rotten meat).

    CFC lightbulbs give excellent light, save lots of energy, and last forever (nope to ALL of it, and the mecuryvapor if they break is bad news. Also some homes had their central heating designed about using incandescent lights and their considerable waste heat so… more heartbreak)

    Oat bran helps your heart (oh wait, not really. Doesn’t hurt though.Not that anyone was ever worried oat bran would turn out to be a strong cardiac poison like isomers of cocaine or anything )

    Oat bran helps prevent bowel cancer (nope. Makes your poop a little firmer and more regular if you are lucky though. )

    Oat bran may help prevent dementia and alzheimers (and it may not. Place your bets on that one!)

    Oat Bran may prevent reactors from melting down (I made that up. Why is it bad when I make things up but okay when Al Gore does?)

    Spinach has ten times more iron than lots of other greens ( a USDA report put a decimal in the wrong place. It has similar amounts of iron to other greens which is not much at all. And look at Popeye. Is he that way because of spinach? Is the Spinach keeping him from mutating and distorting further? )

  38. I’m not sure if it was a scam or not, but I’d like to know how that whole ban CFC’s because there is a hole in the Ozone thing worked out. That one just went invisible like it was never there. But I can’t buy CFC’s anywhere that I know of.

  39. acid rain

  40. Propane does indeed have lower energy content than gasoline. However, as others have pointed out, it stores a lot better (as long as the tank doesn’t rust out). You can get very large tanks and have it delivered if you like.

    For gasoline, you need to add Stabil if you want it to last. I use that in my motorcycle with 10% ethanol gasoline without issues over the winter, and once for a year and a half as I missed one riding season. I was able to start the bike just fine and use that same gas to run it.

  41. The CFC BS is still in place. Without them my asthma medication isn’t delivered nearly as well, and they keep moving away from them.

  42. TSA, the “professionalized” revenge of Tom Daschle.

  43. On the generator thing, if you do any computing, video gaming, or what-have-you, you want to make that not only does it produce a goodly number of watts, but that it produces clean, constant sinusoidal 60Hz 120VAC.

    Friend of mine was without power for 8 days after Sandy. Borrowed an older 3500W generator from one of his friends. Unfortunately, he runs Windows servers for his small biz clients out of his house, and the power from this particular generator was crappy enough that the power supplies in the Dell servers couldn’t deal with it, and refused to power up.

    So he borrowed a (beloved) Honda 1800W generator of some sort, which has a built-in power inverter – produces clean power output regardless of the variations on the input side, and powered up the servers (and his desktop) from that generator, while running the rest of his house (fridge, oil heater, lights) off the 3500W.

    He (foolishly) has an electric stove, so there was no cooking possible for the duration. The propane grill on the deck was called into service.

  44. You mean that Ozone hole that was first noticed in the “International Geophysical Year of 1957″ long before CFCs came into heavy use? This is another one of those things like AGW that is very crappy science and it, unlike AGW, made into a treaty and then they started doing the studies afterward.

  45. I’m still waiting for somebody to explain how CFC’s end up in the upper atmosphere when it’s molecular density is greater than air’s.

  46. I’m sure big CFC wanted to blame the hole thing on a volcano right under the hole spewing god awful amounts of hit agitated chorine is about right? Typical. Obviously everything from North America heads right to antarctica.

    I remember the Dioxin scare too.

    And PCB’s in thrown out CRT’s and vacuum tubes.

  47. “of hit agitated chorine is about right?” -> of hot agitated chlorine ions about, right?

  48. I thought big CFC tried to blame it on the sun –just like big C02.

  49. Factor in that it takes on average 75 years for CFCs hit by intense UV to break down and release Cl then we are now getting to the CFCs released in the 1930s.

  50. Oh, they’re still at it.
    http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/phaseout/2011factsheet.html

    They forced manufacturers to replace CFCs (like freon) with HBFCs, HCFCs and HFCs, which, I am told, were less effective refrigerants, propellants, cleaners, etc.
    Then they outlawed the HBFCs. Now they’re outlawing the HCFCs.

    I’m sure they’ll get around to all refrigerants, in time.

    I never concentrated on the whole CFC/Ozone thing like I once did on Global Warming; but, I dismiss it, out-of-hand, as bunk and feel no need to inform myself on the lies and junk-science used to manufacture it.

    All I need to know is that the Ozone Hole propaganda is based on the same computer modelling used to prop up Global Warming, and done by the same people — the U.N. and IPCC.

    http://ozone.unep.org/Assessment_Panels/SAP/Scientific_Assessment_2010/index.shtml

    http://www.climatescience.gov/Library/ipcc/sroc-review.htm

    Somehow, the IPCC ‘s junk science is no longer “imported” directly by EPA; but by the State Department.

    The State Department? … Really? … Why?

    Anyway, it almost goes without saying that this has all likely been incorporated into Agenda 21.

  51. The CFC nonsense is a perfect example of a government program. We alter out lifestyle and industry and do who knows how much damage to the economy wasting who knows how much money. Then the “scientists” discover they can’t predict a damn thing about how the “ozone hole” is going to act, it becomes apparent they have no clue what the fuck is going on, so they quietly find some other cause to champion and we are stuck with all the legislation, inferior and more expensive products forever.

  52. Exactly, beemoe. But it’s not as if it’s all just well-intentioned mistakes by these scientists.

    Phil Jones & Michael Mann knew that what they were doing wasn’t science back in the 1970′s. Everyone else should have known it, too. But they didn’t care. The leftist indoctrination in colleges & universities was already well-established, and Jones’ and Mann’s conclusions fit with everybody’s leftist agenda and brainwashed thought patterns. Asking whether the conclusions were based on sound science never actually occurred to anyone. Skepticism (a synonym for “science”) was right out the window, even back then.

    I actually majored in Environmental Science in college 15-20 yrs ago.

    Come to find out that there’s no such thing. There’s science. And, there’s environmentalism. And the two are mutually exclusive.

    And it’s not like “Piltdown Man”, where people are fooled by a clever fraud and then, when the fraud is discovered, everyone instantly rejects the theore/evidence. The AGW fraud has been found out; but it doesn’t matter. There’s too much riding on it for too many powerful interests. And nearly all “environmental” issues are exactly the same as the Global Warming fraud.

    The fraud can’t be rejected, it must be perpetuated.

    And so it goes.

  53. Pal

    about those paved continents ….

    heh

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  55. Yuri

    I’m sure they’ll get around to all refrigerants, in time.

    oh cool, so I guess we’ll be looking to buy one of these. FORWARD!!

  56. Darleen all I know is SOMETHING cracked up my driveway. I think it was probably the plants and roots coming up underneath it, and it’s part of a 4″ pad. Maybe it was the clay moving around as austin does it’s little “I’m arid/I’m misty/I’m normal” dance throughout the years. The house I’m in is ONLY 42 years old.

    Something makes the old roads around her pit and whole and split.

    The idea that all this tarmac or asphalt is eternal and that nature is being crushed by it never to rise again is STUPID. Nature tears this stuff up about as fast as we can lay it down. You can see it go to pot when neglected in the space of one lifetime only half lived. Like mine. I can see that what we build is ridiculously temporary. In fact I find it depressing. If we want our great grand kids to see the buildings we lived in then we have to take care of those buildings and left alone they’ll just pancake down into a pile of rubble ? We built this and now we have to rebuild it every thirty five years or so just to keep it around? Sad face! (Yeah I know that the Pyramids and machu picccu are more sturdy. We aren’t doing a lot of that. ) It really makes me wonder about those giant dams I was brought up to be so impressed by!

    I think the worst thing we did around here in Austin is let the juniper tress grow because they are seriously hard on the water table and a lot of locals are horribly allergic to them. The cotton woods are bad too because they have shallow roots, grow very tall, their wood is too soft and oily to use for anything, and we have some pretty good windstorms from time to time and slopes and above ground power lines.

    Nature had a desolate hilly grassland here good enough to graze. Now it is scrub and trees that drink the ground water up.

  57. I just spelled hole with a “W” as whole. That’s sad.

  58. “I thought big CFC tried to blame it on the sun –just like big C02.” The theory was the Sun produces pulses of electical- magnetic energy that travel immense distances and create all kinds of havoc. I believe they are referred to as “solar winds” collectively and their effects are mostly noticable in the Ionsphere near the poles, (magnetic poles, that is).

  59. On CFCs and the Ozone.

    CFCs are heavier than air but due to the movements of the atmosphere they do get mixed in all over eventually. In most of the atmosphere they stay as CFCs which are harmless. There are some that are broken down when air is used in combustion and undoubtedly some sinks into low stagnant air levels where it remains.

    That which makes it to the stratosphere can be broken down eventually by UV and free up Cl. There is a reaction process in which Cl is a catalyst which converts O3 to O2. Sunlight[UV again] does the opposite and converts O2 to O3 which is one reason that the Ozone hole appears in winter when sunlight is not present.

    What doesn’t get mentioned is that for this catalytic event to happen another thing is needed. Polar stratospheric ice clouds which only form when the temperature is very very cold high up which happens during part of the winter at some levels but not all.

    Without the fine ice crystals high up nitrogen compounds interfere with the catalysis and it doesn’t happen. One thing I can’t seem to find out is what happens to the Cl that is formed. I’d expect that it too gets mixed back into the lower atmosphere just as the CFCs mix up to the higher levels and probably combines with something and is removed from circulation.

    There is much that seems to either be not researched actively or what research is done isn’t where I can find it as I don’t subscribe to journals. The law/treaty that was signed to ban these substances was a rush job and banning them for use in inhalers is insane. The amounts released from that use is miniscule even if they are as harmful as is said and that “fact” has some real doubts attached to it.

  60. “On the generator thing, if you do any computing, video gaming, or what-have-you, you want to make that not only does it produce a goodly number of watts, but that it produces clean, constant sinusoidal 60Hz 120VAC.”

    John, running all your computers, etc. with a UPS between them and the AC power has the same effect. That’s why your laptop doesn’t care: all it sees is the power from the battery. APC sells them with a network connection and monitoring software so you can see how nasty the input is.

  61. “The AGW fraud has been found out; but it doesn’t matter. There’s too much riding on it for too many powerful interests. And nearly all “environmental” issues are exactly the same as the Global Warming fraud.”

    Actually, for the average Joe, it hasn’t been. When you make sure that all the “peer reviews” are conducted by true believers, and there are no dissenting voices in the classrooms, and all the media outlets parrot the same crap, there is no way for Joe Average to break that filter.

  62. Thanks guys. I think a 7000 watt would be plenty, and I’m leaning toward propane. I have several 5 gallon bottles around already, and getting more is easy, but I wonder if there’s something on the market where I could split the line on my big home tank (probably at the regulator) so I can run the generator while still supplying the furnace and stove? I’ll have to ask my propane guy…

  63. Lee, if you’re thinking 7000 watts, go for it and step up to 10,000. The price differential isn’t that much and you’ll accomplish your goals.

    Ours is a diesel 3500 Kubota that powers our chest freezer, a refrigerator and some lights. We’ve run it for up to 10 days when we’ve had ice storms. We have an electric stove, so I cook on the grill and have well water that the pump won’t pump when the power is out. It’s 400 feet down and that’s a lot to ask, so we keep a lot of bottled water and heat water for washing up either on the grill (propane) or in the fireplace.

    I agree about using your laptop rather than a desktop, too. Unless you’re running a home business, you won’t need it too much other than to check up on local news. Keep a working radio and lots of batteries, too.

  64. Yeah leigh, I’ve already used the ” The price differential isn’t that much” line to get from 3500 watts to 7000. ;-)

    Seriously, I think the gas efficiency is an issue too. A 10,000 has got to use more gas than a 7000, right?

  65. 7 kw = 9.3 hp
    10 kw = 13.4 hp

    link

  66. You’ve talked your way into the 7000, 10,000 isn’t too much to ask. Amiright? ; )

    And see there? Nr helps out with the math.

  67. ok, I picked this one. Hopefully it will arrive before the apocalypse.

    This was the contender. Having spent time looking, this was the bigger deal and I would suggest to anyone that wants a gas generator to jump on it.

  68. “There should be a tag somewhere on each device that says how much power it draws.”

    Guys, one more thing on the generator size: for all major appliances and a host of minor ones there’s actually two draw figures to worry about: operating draw and startup draw. Basically, when the motor first comes on, there’s a much (as in up to 2-3 times) higher amount of power required until the motors spin up. This is especially true for things like refrigerators and freezers that have compressors. Every time that compressor kicks on (they don’t run continuously), the draw spikes, and if you’re operating at say 4500 watts on a 5000 watt generator, it may not handle the load.

    This is also true with fluorescent lights (including CFLs); you have to ionize a conducting path down the tube of the bulb initially. That’s why the recommendation was to use fluorescent bulbs in places where you weren’t turning the light on and off to save the most money.

    Another note on generators: when they say they’ll run x hours on a tank of fuel, that x is usually at 50% average load; if you run it at 75 to 80% it’s a LOT shorter.

  69. Lee, both of my points are illustrated here from your generator’s description:

    7000 surge watts/6000 running watts, 13 HP, 4 stroke OHV, recoil start engine, delivers maximum performance
    Uses a standard gas grill style LPG tank, 5 ft. Regulator hose is included in box, LPG propane tank is not included
    Air cooled, AVR automatic voltage regulation, low oil shut off, spark arrestor, full power panel, engine shut off switch, overload protected outlets
    Electric and recoil start, battery for electric start not included, run time: 8 hours at 50 percent load per 20 lbs. of fuel, runs at less than 80 db

  70. the 10 kw is more efficient 13.4 hp out/16 hp in = 84%
    7 kw – 9.3 hp out/13 hp in = 72%

  71. Yup SDN, I took all that into consideration. This is just for emergency use, where I plan to run it sporadically, only when critical. Gas storage is definitely a major consideration, and I always have at least a 100 gallons of propane around. I didn’t find any 10k propane generators…

  72. If you are really serious you wire the generator into your main power supply box so you don’t have to unplug everything and plug it into the generator.

    Then again, my emergency power consists of a battery backup on my computer that might run it for five minutes.

  73. No, Darleen, you only get an icebox that nice if you’re rich — which no one will be …. except the Commissariat.

  74. If you are really serious you wire the generator into your main power supply box so you don’t have to unplug everything and plug it into the generator.

    Actually, you want to wire it into a transfer switch which is connected to the main panel. Otherwise, you’re dumping power into the grid (which an unsuspecting lineman would not appreciate) and if the power comes back on, your generator could go kaboom. You could just wire right into the panel but it’s a bad idea.

  75. The idea that all this tarmac or asphalt is eternal and that nature is being crushed by it never to rise again is STUPID. Nature tears this stuff up about as fast as we can lay it down.

    Yeah. Come to New England and you’ll see the lifespan of asphalt measured in winters.

  76. When Pablo says it’s a bad idea, he means that it’s a really, really, really bad idea.

  77. Regarding the peak-draw thingy, why don’t you read about people wiring in a buttload of capacitors to supply that peak amperage?

    Probably expensive, though.

  78. “Actually, for the average Joe, it hasn’t been. When you make sure that all the “peer reviews” are conducted by true believers, and there are no dissenting voices in the classrooms, and all the media outlets parrot the same crap, there is no way for Joe Average to break that filter.”

    Well, SDN, I concede your point.

    I meant that it’s the “scientific community” that has (or should have by now) “found out”. Which includes the “scientific” journals and the professoriate.

    Actually, I think we’re each making flip-sides of the same point. The “scientific community” knows (or, by now, ought to know) the truth of the sham that is AGW; but, because they are neither honest, nor honestly engaged in science, the average Joe can never find out the truth.

    Along with the State Media, it’s a vicious cycle fueled by leftist brainwashing.

    (I never refer to it as “indoctrination”, but rather what it truly is: brainwashing. And that, in itself, is worthy of an afternoon’s discussion.)

  79. Been a long time since I thought about CFCs. I remember reading that the EMPs were a necessary part of the process, ( why the holes were larger near the magnetic poles), and the compound that catalized was maybe chlolene. Seems that I also remember that there was alot of talk about a patent or patents that ended at about the same time it became illegal to sell it in the U.S. It is still produced in third world countries, India is one, and I think Mexico and Brazil also produce it. I had my R 12 system filled three years ago for about $20.00.

  80. Yeah, I meant what you said, Pablo, a transfer switch. I’m not too bright.

  81. the size of the gen (less than)10 kw use ext cords to the critical components. (food/heat),comm,light

  82. Fwiw, if you know what you’re doing, and you’re only hooking up a portable generator short-term during an extended outage — rather than some fancy permanent solution — you don’t need a transfer switch, per se.

    My friend hooked up the 3500W generator to power (selected items in) his whole house by using the 220V output of the generator and backfeeding the panel via an electric dryer outlet. You must turn off the master breaker first, otherwise the predictable Bad Things will occur if the external power comes back on while the generator is hooked up.

    That way all the outlets in the house have power, though depending on the output of the generator and the rating of the dryer outlet, dryer circuit breaker, and the funky male-to-male 220V extension cord you’ve made, there will be limits on how much you can turn on. Cooler than snaking extension cords throughout the house.

  83. I had a father-in-law who did the same using his 220V welder outlet during outages.

  84. Hillary presses a new “reset button“.

  85. Make sure you size the wire and the plugs that connect the Gen. to the outlet according to the amps out of the Gen. And keep the connection as short as possible.

  86. Not to be outdone, the RNC will now dig-up the former members of the band Menudo to help with outreach efforts towards the Asian community.

    ‘Cause that makes about as much sense as the Andrew WK thing.

  87. Come to New England and you’ll see the lifespan of asphalt measured in winters.

    Winters —plural? Damn, that’s some good asphalt!

  88. The land of two seasons, winter and road repair, welcome to the upper Midwest.

  89. “Road repair” is also known as “winter is coming.”

  90. The land of two seasons, winter and road repair, welcome to the upper Midwest.

    Yup. That sounds like where I live.

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