Mostly emblematic as a protest — few believe anything will come of it, though I signed all that I could find — but there’s an equally emblematic counter-protest happening around the movement, and that can be epitomized by this:
Late Tuesday a second group of Texans, this one from Houston, lodged their own White House petition. Secession-minded Texans, they wrote, “are mentally deficient and [we] do not want them representing us. We would like more education in our state to eradicate their disease.”
This is where we are: those who wish to peacefully return to a constitutional, representative government with a stable rule of law and a free market, a system wherein they are no longer subjects and aren’t charged with subsidizing the welfare state or the NGOs who vote themselves the fruits of others’ labor, are “a disease” in need of eradication. Whereas those who wish to control us, take our liberties, and force us into a kind of “progressive,” happy-faced indentured servitude present themselves as rational — and offer as a solution to the disease of American exceptionalism more leftwing propaganda driven through a union-controlled, heavily leftwing education system.
Up is down. Black is white. Cain isn’t able, exactly. But he’s more than willing.
(h/t JHo)
Sort of a tyranny of the majority kind of thing our US Constitution was supposed to prevent…
– To be clear, so far this movement is only symbolic, and the response from the WH is simply to respond if enough signitures are gathered.
– This is not state legislations being petitioned, which if the bubble expands into THAT sort of action could get interesting.
– BTW, Texas started as an independent country before joining the Union, and did so with the proviso it could sussceed at any time. There are disagreements as to the accuracy of that statement, but if true would really raise interesting possibilities.
– Scalia is full of crap. There are at least three ways a state can sussxeed. Really gives you warm fuzzies about the idiots on our supreme court these days.
Glenn Beck is decrying the secession thing, saying don’t be adding your name to the White House enemies list. I realize that Jeff signed up for that very purpose. He’s well armed; he can afford to.
Charles Cook got all smug and reasonable about the whole thing. He gets points for presenting arguments to support his case, but he forfeits it all for his “shut UP you freaks!” posture.
Glenn, at least, is doing his dead-level best to build parallel structures that he hopes will stand after it all comes tumbling down, which may result in nothing to secede from. Charles, OTOH, seems to think we can solve this through conventional political channels.
Me, I didn’t sign those petitions (unarmed), nor do I think that the time is ripe for secession or armed revolution. However, I also recognize that the secessionists aren’t pouting about a lost election so much as they’re trying desperately to uncouple themselves from a locomotive that’s speeding towards the abyss.
I reckon that Total Economic Collapse will change the landscape drastically enough that most of what we’re talking about now will be irrelevant; we’ll have to reassess, regroup, and start over.
Canned goods, people. Generators, water purifiers, and quicklime.
Perry already said he wouldn’t secede. However, he did say he would refuse to participate in ObamaCare. We’ll see if that happens.
Is the quicklime for waste treatment or getting rid of bodies?
– The very fact that Gov. Perry in Texas felt compelled to speak up so quickly tells you hes at least concerned it could get legs.
Perry said that years ago.
Is the quicklime for waste treatment or getting rid of bodies?
Ay-yup.
– He repeated it just yesterday, or the article I read it in was erroneous, or aomething.
Sorry, BBH. I’m too beaten down to think clearly any more.
dicentra, I forgot about quicklime. Excellent suggestion.
In answer to your question, I’d say “yes,” cranky. But you knew that.
– As I said yesterday, sucession in and of itself, as a practical matter isn’t workable unless a great majority of states agreed, but as a movement might act as a hammer to compell some fed walkback on state soveriegnty. Texas could prove a special case.
– What could happen is the forcing of a continental convention.
Hmm… maybe some camps dedicated to that purpose?
– So the Left has now firmly embraced unfettered immigration of non-citizens, and deportation of citizens that don’t share their political views.
– And they call others insane.
We’re just the rabble, now, making some noise. At least, that’s what the left thinks, because they think they’ve won.
Dear Abby,
I am Connecticut resident, and my property is built on ledge, which provides me with about four inches of soil before I reach pickaxe-resistant metamorphic rock. Hence, a quicklime pit is not a feasible method for disposal of ‘waste’.
Can you or one of your readers suggest an alternative method by which I could deal with potentially embarassing ‘waste’ and ‘identifiable artifacts’ that would be more suited to my rock-strewn locale?
Raise hogs.
I’d love to know who those d-bags in Houston are that made such an asinine statement. Especially how many “SECEDE!” bumper stickers you see around here.
I refer those neo-Stalinist catamites to the slogan in my avatar.
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The petition IS symbolic, but there is rumblings here in Texas, even among the more conservative Dems, that we would be better off as an independant nation. Given the cliff the US is about to speed over, there’s some logic to that…
Quite possibly the most perfect thing I’ve ever seen. Probably because of the teachable moment nature of it. It’s entire egg of molecular-level fail, flawless in natural design and sufficiency, and thus should be on the wall somewhere in a gallery.
Even the proggs could, in that environment’s optics, finally glimpse who they are.
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Jeff, a PW installation. Gallery time, downtown. Who’s up for a Denver area PW gallery installation? I’m quite serious. That would indeed catch hold.
Do it, Texas. Prediction: Six months later, one million immigrants, a twenty point uptick in the Texas economy. Eighteen months in, quadruple the immigrants, another 50% higher economic numbers.
The Republic of Texas would never even look back.
The saddest fact about the age of peace we’re now exiting is that people were training to think it was an age of war.
I’ll arm my house, you arm your vagina. Ready for the flag when you are.
BBH, I think you are wrong about the Texas secession thing for two reasons. First, they already did secede once back in 1861, and we all know how that ended. Second, what I think may be referring to is that Texas may divide itself into five states within the union as per the resolution in 1845 admitting Texas to the Union.
I’m going to guess that the 2nd group of Texans are Californian who relocated to (red state) Texas after destroying their own state.
The first wave of secession was over the issue of maintaining slavery as an institution; the second will be over the issue of escaping it.
I can’t say that I’m looking forward to the War of Coastal Aggression; however, I have little doubt which side would prevail.
meh, in a world besotted with symbolism what’s a little more thrown on the pile monkeychildren?
The vast majority of the military comes from the states that would like to secede. The proggs cannot count on them for help.
Husband and I were talking about the secession deal this morning and i brought up that very point, cranky.
Jesusland is chockful of veterans.
Yeah, but just you wait ’til the Ivy League political scientists start issuing Sternly Worded Directives ordering us to disarm and send them our food and oil. God forbid we should resist in the face of that sort of weaponry. Why, they might break out their notary stamps, after which it all spins out of control…
They assume that their mail will get through our checkpoints.
The only hope shitstorm nation has at this point is if the proggs overreach. Please, please, please let it be here that they overreach.
They’ve been overreaching for the past four years. I expect more of the same, squared.
I might not be necessary to secede if the whole thing just falls apart.
I’ve always wanted my very own state, bmoe.
I’ll use the Constitution as a guide, but I’ll pencil in at the margins: “and I’m serious. This means exactly what it says. So don’t go fucking with it.”
I’m counting on it falling apart.
There were three more boarded up businesses in town this morning. One was a gas station.
Just have it typeset with red ink, Jeff. Kind of like the words of Jesus in a red-letter KJV Bible.
Only squared, cranky?
I’m expecting cubed.
At a minimum.
Why, they might break out their notary stamps, after which it all spins out of control…
Notary stamps? If only. The USDA and other departments have been buying combat arms, remember?
I wonder how many people in the last four years, and especially in the last four or so months, opted to exercise their right to keep arms in the expectation of some day having to bear arms?
The racism of yesteryear has come full circle in our county. The entire world embraced our choice of a black President four years ago and most nations of the world still support him. The fringe elements of Republican sect have crept through into the mainstream once again with conservative mouthpieces planting the seeds of hate. The only doubt lies here at home rooting from bigotry. Watch the white hands paint Obama in Blackface at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/10/bamboozling-obama.html
The racism of yesteryear has come full circle in our county.
you’re right the demonrats/proggtards “own” racism.
see slavery, jim crow, margret sanger and “disparate impact”
‘Shrooms, man.
Bigotry? “Mitt Romney’s Magic Mormon Underwear”.
Oh, here’s a fun one, “The Ecstasy of Sarah Palin”. Sexualizing a woman you dislike to diminish her? [Like a psychopath?]
Self-awareness is harder for some because of their, uhhh, self.
Dreg Studios
Gotta give the dude props for truth in advertising.
So another pop art illustrator from Tennessee shows up here?
He’s not a friend of paella-boi, is he? Or the anti-semitic space boobies guy, maybe?
Hey dregstudios. Looks like Obama managed to create about 8million new racists since 2008, if we can go by those racist haters who didn’t vote for him the second time around.
Probably just didn’t realize he was black the first time. I’m sure that’s it.
By which you mean to say “Look at the silly shit my meager brain produced.”
That dreck is all on you, Brandt.
I know, right? It’s like he forgot it was he who was projecting all this racial animus.
Dreg Studios?
You’re that idiot who kept spamming threads on the old Breitbart sites (when it was using Intense Debate) with links to your sad excuse for art, right?
@bh: Ah, so it is that idiot. Many of his screeds on Breitbart were aimed at Teh Howwible Palin or whatever he’d use in them.
Though for some reason, his screeds would get deleted. Almost as if people who notice how bizarrely off-topic they were and flag them as spam…
I don’t have direct knowledge of this, Patrick, but I feel confident that our budding artist is the sort who would spend his days doing exactly that sort of thing.
Also, masturbating furiously to imagined scenarios where he’s finally in charge of all the women who’ve perpetually rejected him.
So this is where I pray that Nancy Pelosi has rejected him.
‘cuz it’s got to be some fault of theirs and not his own. Yeah, I always get a creepy vibe from that sort.
Wasn’t there some article written by some prog author where he detailed all the conservative women he wanted to have sex with, because he hated them so much? Ick.
Might this budding artist be a graduate of MTSU?