November 6, 2012

Election 2012: America’s swan song

Looks like the Mayans were right, after all.

Sadly, there is no going back now.  At least, not by way of elections.  The masses here are content to run out the debt clock, get theirs, and say fuck it to the next few generations, who will bear the burden of what will be an inevitable collapse.  So there’s really no going back, period.

McCaskill — whose family raked in stimulus money; Sherrod Brown, the Senate’s most leftwing Senator; a fake Indian; and a rubber stamp for Obama in Donnelly, a former Obaman DNC chair running as a “moderate” in VA, all winners.  So the Presidential election doesnt’ even matter.

The mainstream press once again bought Obama the election. Which will buy him 4 years of an imperial presidency with nothing to stop him.

End of country.

Time to maybe start a new one, I think.  Because I’ll be goddamned if my family is going to work to pay for other people’s shit; and I most certainly won’t live in a post-Constitutional police state — at least, not without putting up whatever resistance I can.

 

 

 

Posted by Jeff G. @ 8:27pm
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Comments (201)

  1. Yeah.

  2. On a night of disgusting spectacles, none more disgusting than the people who undermined Akin patting themselves on the back for being “right” that he should have dropped out.

    To every one of them – up yours.

  3. #AbandonTheGOP

  4. eff this too much fraud in philly & pgh outlaw

  5. We’re all socialists now.

    I’d also like to thank Hew Hewitte and Mikey Medvite. Nice job men; nice job.

  6. Hate to use a song from a leftwing dickhead but this is what I’m feeling:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE3kKUEY5WU

  7. I’m ill. Where’s the opt out button?

  8. havel

    The post-totalitarian system touches people at every step, but it does so with its ideological gloves on. This is why life in the system is so thoroughly permeated with hypocrisy and lies: government by bureaucracy is called popular government; the working class is enslaved in the name of the work ing class; the complete degradation of the individual is presented as his ultimate liberation; depriving people of in formation is called making it available; the use of power to manipulate is called the public control of power, and the arbitrary abuse of power is called observing the legal code; the repression of culture is called its development; the expansion of imperial intluence is presented as support for the oppressed; the lack of free expression becomes the highest form of freedom; farcical elections become the highest form of democracy; banning independent thought becomes the most scientific of world views; military occupation becomes fraternal assistance. Because the regime is captive to its own lies, it must falsify everything. It falsifies the past. It falsifies the present, and it falsifies the future. It falsifies statistics. It pretends not to possess an omnipotent and unprincipled police apparatus. It pretends to respect human rights. It pretends to persecute no one. It pretends to fear nothing. It pretends to pretend nothing.

    Individuals need not believe all these mystifications, but they must behave as though they did, or they must at least tolerate them in silence, or get along well with those who work with them. For this reason, however, they must live within a lie. They need not accept the lie. It is enough for them to have accepted their life with it and in it. For by this very fact, individuals confirm the system, fulfill the system, make the system, are the system.

    link

  9. On the plus side, at least we’ve already got corn and beans and rice in huge cans.

    We’re Mormons, we do that.

  10. Denver Post calls CO for Obama.

  11. Jeb Bush tells Romney he lost FL. Will likely lose VA, too.

    It’s over. You live in a post-constitutional country with a Democratic Senate, a biased media, and a perceived mandate.

    Live free or die? Right.

  12. At least Bronco has more flexability to enslave us.

    So there’s that. /sarc

  13. Fundamental transformation complete. Welcome to the principality of Obama. And the rule of the skins. Martin Luther King Jr.’s vision is officially obsolete.

  14. brb suicide

  15. Wowie Zowie. Thought this election would put Mitt in, and therefore buy a little bit of time, but damn. With the Senate staying in Dirty Harry Reid’s filthy hands, ObamaCare stays on the books, even if Romney somehow wins tonight (have big doubts about that right now). And my employer, like many, has been waiting until after the election to announce layoffs; add the big tax increases comming in January, plus the IRS will soon be wanting to know my medical history…I say give the entire country what they voted for, good and hard and fast. At least conservatives/classical liberals will not be in charge when the enevitable economic/social collapse comes. Not the kind of silver lining I would want, but I deal with reality and facts, so I will probably sell off my entire stock portfolio tomorrow – put everything into crappy low interest rate cash accounts. I voted early a few days ago, but I still have a few financial votes to cast…then, I don’t know. Costa Rica maybe?

  16. let’s start a new religion equal parts amish/muslim to eff obamacare or

    eff u i will not comply

  17. I think we needed a Romney presidency in the hopes all the unelected unaccountable Czars get pink slips. The people inside the current administration are where the real danger lies.

    Anyway, congratulations, leftists. Good luck and enjoy your win, because when you look for help from those of us who warned you, we’ll gladly boot you in the ass and tell you to move along.

  18. at this point run for the hills

  19. Okay so as much as I would like to run out and live in the woods, I’m chemically dependent on drugs that are making me fat, working for my parents, and holding an engineering degree I can’t convert into a job because bioengineering companies got shafted on biofuels by investors who thought we could just keep burning food for ethanol.

    Help.

  20. I cannot believe there are this many idiots in this country. Fuck ace,allahpundit and the rest of those rinos. Your east coast sensibility cost our country.

  21. 1 Samuel, Chapter 8 (paraphrased): the people demanded a King.

  22. Romney committed public suicide a couple of weeks ago. I called it these fora, and received nothing but insult in return for insight.

    I will be selling my books and other assorted chattels, selling off my assorted retirement investments, and moving to Ireland in the new year. Better off in a country that has owned up to, and is repaying on its fiscal sins, rather than remain a country that’s about to descend into Cloward–Piven madness.

    Good luck, all of you. I’ll be watching from Achill.

  23. I’ve been calling out the pragmatists on Twitter and my followers are dropping faster than my fundraising takes.

    I think I may be over, as well.

  24. Pellegri: I have degrees in physics and electrical engineering, and was working on an MBA until very very recently. But now, I say F* it all! Let’s go to Costa Rica and start ourselves a bioengineering company. At least the weather is pretty good down there.

  25. Gotta burn the old shed down someday. Otherwise you can’t rebuild.

  26. I say give the entire country what they voted for, good and hard and fast

    Oh it’s coming. Sure, Obama gave a bit of a reprieve on gas prices, but they’re heading back up. That’s one promise he’ll fulfill. Electricity? Those futures are already selling in the northeast at numbers that entail a quadrupling of prices by 2014. Anyone think he’s now going to answer questions about Benghazi? He’s been politely telling congress to fuck off for the past 4 years. I doubt he will bother with politeness any longer. Tax cuts are set to expire in January, new rules for Obamacare to kick in. 2007 is going to look like a picnic compared to what’s coming.

  27. “batboy says November 6, 2012 at 9:32 pm
    Romney committed public suicide a couple of weeks ago. I called it these fora, and received nothing but insult in return for insight.
    I will be selling my books and other assorted chattels, selling off my assorted retirement investments, and moving to Ireland in the new year. Better off in a country that has owned up to, and is repaying on its fiscal sins, rather than remain a country that’s about to descend into Cloward–Piven madness.
    Good luck, all of you. I’ll be watching from Achill.”

    Nah. You’re still bullshit. Sorry man.

  28. Runnin’ down the beach at night with my boss’s daughter
    Well he ain’t my boss no more Sandy
    Sandy the angels have lost their desire for us
    I spoke to ‘em just last night and they said they won’t
    set themselves on fire for us anymore
    Every summer when the weather gets hot they ride that crazy road
    down from heaven on their Harleys they come and they go
    And you can see ‘em dressed like stars in all the cheap
    little seashore bars parked making love with their
    babies out on the Kokomo
    Well the cops finally busted Madame Marie
    For tellin’ fortunes better than they do
    This boardwalk life for me is through
    You know you ought to quit this scene too
    Oh Sandy the aurora is rising behind us
    The pier lights our carnival life forever
    Oh love me tonight and I promise I’ll love you forever
    Hey Sandy Girl

    4th Of July, Asbury Park (Sandy) – Bruce Springsteen (Studio Version)

  29. Bob M. you’ll have universal healthcare in Costa Rica. Enjoy!

  30. So much for Barnum’s dictum about fooling all of the people all of the time.

    I guess the majority of people do want an arrogant jackass king. We all know Michelle has the queen part down.

  31. I just don’t know what to say…. the inmates have taken over the asylum I guess. Well, I’ll try to get some sleep before I head to the gun shop tomorrow AM. God bless the mourners of America.

  32. gun and ammo day 11/7/12

  33. Secession or Slavery

  34. Bob M.: Sounds good. Let’s go.

  35. Universal health care in Costa Rica, but all we’ll have is universal health insurance. Because to have health care, you need doctors and hospitals and medicine which are are about to get seriously scarce inthis country. Natasha Richardson was unavailable for comment.

  36. “Bob M. you’ll have universal healthcare in Costa Rica. Enjoy!”

    Apparently I’ll have it here too, whether I want it or not. So, no downside.

  37. so between mittens and chrischristie coulter got it right?

  38. True dat. Poor people seeing doctors is what will ruin the country. I guess we’ll see.

  39. My MBA class was cancelled earlier tonight. No reason given, but I think I was a Sign…

  40. “poor” peeps ain’t seeing shit ain’t no doctors knucklehead

  41. It’s over. You live in a post-constitutional country with a Democratic Senate, a biased media, and a perceived mandate.

    A flexible mandate to do whatever the fuck he wants because that’s what he ran on and who the fuck are you to say otherwise.

    If I were you Jeff, I’d try to pick up another 1000 rnds of .308. The sooner the cheaper.

  42. Who goes to the doctor? Who has insurance?

  43. It isn’t the poor people, it’s the fact that the insurance as specified will encourage more people to see a doctor when they have the sniffles. Insurance is supposed to be for unusual things, not for normal things like colds.

  44. section 8 blacks ain’t seeing nothing ax michelle obama

  45. It’s one step closer to a civilized society. That’s all there is to it.

  46. G-d you’re an idiot. Go away.

  47. “it was” a Sign. That’s what I mean.

  48. We are a civilized society. You sound like a moocher. Buy your own health insurance.

  49. Romney and the GOP didn’t get Obama re-elected…

    …our corrupt populace did.

    Like astronauts who lose muscle and bone mass when they spend too much time in null gravity, we’ve had it too good since the end of WWII, and it’s ruined us. Beginning with the Boomers, we’ve been so damned spoiled that it’s rotted our souls. Why vote for the Accountants In The Green Visors when you can vote for NEVERLAND!

    We’re getting exactly what we deserve. We let the Left lie their heads off for 40 years, and we’ve ignored them while they insinuated themselves into the educational, cultural, and political seats of power.

    It’s not just that the press lies to us, it’s that we as a populace don’t insist that they tell the truth. It’s not just that the government has gone way beyond the Constitution’s limits, it’s that we haven’t penalized politicians for doing so.

    And it’s not just that the Left’s wicked premises about language and history and humanity have poisoned our collective memory and discourse, it’s that we seem to like it—or at least we’re so inured to it that we don’t care. Something funny is trending on Twitter. Gotta go!

    We’re a frivolous, shallow, amoral, unserious, spoiled rotten people. Had Romney won, we’d just turn over and go back to sleep while he forestalled the inevitable (or didn’t).

    Mr. Franklin, ours is the generation that failed to keep the Republic.

    May the next one come during my lifetime.

  50. Uh, Dale? That’s what Medicaid and free clinics were for.

    It’s shallow, soundbite-driven thinking like yours that so infuriates those of us you pretend a moral superiority to. You aren’t superior. You accept the idea that theft is charity, so long as it isn’t you who’s being stolen from.

    One day it’ll hit you. Sadly, you’ll still be too stupid to realize what happened, and spend months blaming Bush.

  51. True dat. Poor people seeing doctors is what will ruin the country. I guess we’ll see.

    Boy needs to learn what ‘unsustainable’ means. As example, Social Security and Medicare.

  52. Yes, because shifting from catastrophic health insurance to universal, all-bells-and-whistles health insurance is not in fact why NICE is such a failfest.

  53. Who are these doctors poor people are supposed to see? Nobody goes to school for 12 years and wracks up that kind of debt to become a government functionary answerable to a beancounter somewhere.

  54. Medicine: Just another job American’s won’t do.

  55. We’re getting exactly what we deserve. We let the Left lie their heads off for 40 years, and we’ve ignored them while they insinuated themselves into the educational, cultural, and political seats of power.

    It’s not just that the press lies to us, it’s that we as a populace don’t insist that they tell the truth. It’s not just that the government has gone way beyond the Constitution’s limits, it’s that we haven’t penalized politicians for doing so.

    Speak for yourself. I’ve been trying for a decade to teach Republicans why they’re doomed to nights like this. So none of this “we” shit. I don’t deserve it and neither do my wife and kids.

  56. Seriously, I’ve had acquaintances in Canada and the UK pity me for not living somewhere with universalized health care on the one hand, then I sit there and watch while they complain about having to wait six weeks with an emergency to see a doctor.

  57. Speak for yourself. I’ve been trying for a decade to teach Republicans why they’re doomed to nights like this. So none of this “we” shit. I don’t deserve it and neither do my wife and kids.

    Yeah, well, all of we” the country is going to suffer together whether the individuals deserve it or not.

    Dalekhunter is an effing progg? That’s ironic.

  58. We’reSome of us resist the majority of this Republic’s citizens, who have degenerated to a frivolous, shallow, amoral, unserious, spoiled rotten people.

    ftfme

  59. “Dalekhunter says November 6, 2012 at 9:57 pm
    It’s one step closer to a civilized society. That’s all there is to it.”

    Three steps closer to Greece.

  60. I’m testy tonight, dicentra. I have a six-month-old and an eight-year-old I can’t look in the eyes right now.

  61. Hang on tight to your families. That is all that is going to matter for a while.

    I’m glad I can still visit my father frequently. I have turned down chances for better pay to keep that option, because my job lets me travel when I want to.

  62. BigBangHunter says November 6, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    – Heres what will most likely happen. The gridlock in congress will continue with just enough concessions to keep the government barely above water over the next six months. More debt ceiling increases, more deficit spending. But its the worst sort of bandaid.

    Bringing this over into the current thread to add one very important thing that’s been overlooked.

    Four more years of continuing resolutions adding another trillion dollars to the debt each and every year.

    Unless the Republicans cave on taxes. Which they will. Because 500 billion dollar annual deficits are fiscally repsonsible in Wonderland.

  63. Dicentra: well spoken. You’ve pretty much said what’s on my mind, except that I’m being snarky tonight (while I plan my next moves and look for the Exit doors). Sorry Mr. Franklin. Some of us tried anyway.

  64. “It’s in your nature to destroy yourselves”

    -Terminator 2

  65. Look ‘em in the eye, Jeff. It’s not for lack of trying on your part that the country has turned to morons for its leadership.

    I don’t deserve it either. Nor does my husband or my children. But we got it anyway. We’re gonna suck it up and soldier on.

    C’mon, we’ll hold hands.

  66. It’s one step closer to a civilized society. That’s all there is to it.

    Civilized? You mean domesticated.

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  68. I’m testy tonight, dicentra.

    I hope you’re more than testy.

    But this really was inevitable. Human society is as dumb as a bag of hammers. We get prosperous, then fat and lazy and stupid, then we lose touch with Cold Hard Reality, and then we accept the yoke of any sweet-talking tyrant who promises to keep the free ice cream coming.

    Truth can’t win when the lies carry no foreseeable consequences. We’re in for a really hard, painful lesson.

    Might want to ditch your @gmail and Twitter and Facebook accounts: that NSA building here in Salt Lake county is, as we speak, filling up its datastores with everything that goes across the wires, including this thread.

    You’re guilty of something, and you’ll pay.

  69. I don’t have kids, but if I did, I would be even more sad and angry I think. I guess you teach them as many life-skills as possible; perhaps you learn them alongside them.

    People are going to have to learn to be self-reliant again, always, because those that cannot learn will not survive.

  70. “Ernst Schreiber says November 6, 2012 at 10:07 pm
    Who are these doctors poor people are supposed to see? Nobody goes to school for 12 years and wracks up that kind of debt to become a government functionary answerable to a beancounter somewhere.”

    Doctors? Lol. Personal Care Assistant + assistants + chart + phone number to talk to a Doctor is needed + secret list of enemies to refuse treatment to or WORSE.

    Oh yeah, Acupuncture, reflexology, chakras, magnetic bracelets, laugh therapy,and positive thinking MP3’s are all going to be discovered to be real medicine soon, along with any other cheap or free stuff that might cause you to have a week long placebo effect. Meet the new new age, same as the old new age.

    Political correctness is a full blown industry again.

    NBPP might be granted controlled hunting licenses when potentially hostile white people or hispanic white people are spotted too near civilized areas. Justice is just a brand name like Science now.

    They chose four more years of darkness. Imagine what can be done with four more years of darkness? At some point our new thanes might even work up the courage to use their last wish to ask the genie for three more wishes.

    Gonna be fun.

  71. Sure you can look them in the eyes Jeff. You cannot take responsibility for the rampaging mob and what they portend. What you can do is instill in them your values, as well as the ability to survive in the world.

  72. Tammy Baldwin. Claire McCaskill. Legalized marijuana in Washington and Colorado. Gay marriage in Maine. You can tell your little ones they’ll live in a time of greater positive freedoms than we’ve ever had. No longer be held in check by an aging white Christian majority and enjoy the securities and benefits enjoyed by the rest of the industrialized world. So yeah, they have it pretty sweet if you ask me.

  73. Civilized? You mean domesticated.

    Leashed and controlled; sheared and milked; kept as pretty pets. Depends on if you’re designated the dog, the sheep or the canary.

  74. “cranky-d says November 6, 2012 at 10:20 pm
    I don’t have kids, but if I did, I would be even more sad and angry I think. I guess you teach them as many life-skills as possible; perhaps you learn them alongside them.
    People are going to have to learn to be self-reliant again, always, because those that cannot learn will not survive.”

    If they feel like it, they’ll find a way to take your kids. For their own good. And yours. You’d probably have let them grow up racist and obese anyway. Oh and you probably shouldn’t be allowed to have more than two.

  75. Wow.

    So yeah, they have it pretty sweet if you ask me.

    You really think the party’s going to go on forever, don’t you?

    How old are you, 18?

  76. Again, troll, you are an idiot.

  77. positive freedoms … that is a laugh.

    You are selling religion without dogma, without the checks and balances that come with responsibility. Those Christians – they have a in on that aspect of life and what darkness it holds at bay when you forget it.

  78. Insty’s last post is at 8:40pm (Mountain? Do I see my own system time?)

    Did they all commit hara-kiri?

  79. “Dalekhunter says November 6, 2012 at 10:23 pm
    Tammy Baldwin. Claire McCaskill. Legalized marijuana in Washington and Colorado. Gay marriage in Maine. You can tell your little ones they’ll live in a time of greater positive freedoms than we’ve ever had. No longer be held in check by an aging white Christian majority and enjoy the securities and benefits enjoyed by the rest of the industrialized world. So yeah, they have it pretty sweet if you ask me.”

    I hear that once the Nazi’s were punished East germany was a real paradise if you asked anyone about it in public. Stooge.

  80. He didn’t ask you, Dale.

  81. . No longer be held in check by an aging white Christian majority

    go for it idiot. the muslims will roll it all back ax huma and “the project”

  82. positive freedoms … that is a laugh.

    Again, somebody has to labor to provide YOU with the bennies, ya moron. What makes you think I’m going to sit still and take it anymore?

  83. Tammy Baldwin. Claire McCaskill. Legalized marijuana in Washington and Colorado. Gay marriage in Maine. You can tell your little ones they’ll live in a time of greater positive freedoms than we’ve ever had. No longer be held in check by an aging white Christian majority and enjoy the securities and benefits enjoyed by the rest of the industrialized world. So yeah, they have it pretty sweet if you ask me.

    What you’re describing is the thinnest of veneers; luxuries that will prove to be fleeting and will quickly disappear.

    Because, we don’t have the solid economic foundation to support your LeftLibProgg nirvana. See: Unsustainable. All those pretty little things will be gone in a nanosecond, after this Republic’s economic foundation crashes and fails. You’re building pleasure domes on shifting sands.

  84. First, positive freedoms aren’t freedoms, they’re privileges. What the government gives, the government can take away.

    Second, who do you think created the industrialized world with all it’s benefits and securities?

  85. Dalektwit: Just because the chains have nice padding on the cuffs does not mean they are suddenly not chains.

  86. No longer be held in check by an aging white Christian majority common sense and adulthood

    FTFY

  87. And FYI, for the “true believers”, the only people I know who actually voted for Obama, their issues were abortion and gay marriage.

    But, by all means, lets go all in with the insanity next time, THAT will show them.

  88. By the way, if a State puts a question to the voters, and they answer it in the affirmative, that’s fine with me. Legalized weed? Smoke away, kids. Legalized gay “marriage?” If the people wanted it, fine. I don’t like it when judges push it through, but if the citizens want it, that’s cool, just like if they don’t want it, that’s cool, too.

    You might try to understand what being a classical liberal is before you start taking shots. Then again, you’re an idiot, so I really don’t expect you to.

    Ultimately, you can do pretty much what you want, as long as I or anyone else is not forced to participate. However, don’t expect me to pay a dime towards it.

  89. Yeah. East Germany was real nice till the Russians stopped sending money. Because they were out of it and unlikely to get more through conquest or energy production. Now it’s just the ugly, broke down, out of work, poor racist part of Germany(west). The ex-stasi are pretty quiet now.

  90. And in case you have trouble reading between the lines, any candidate from any Tea Party, Libertarian, Conservative, Republican, Constitutional, Lincoln, or other party claiming to oppose Obama over the next 4 years should be stoned in the public square for even MENTIONING the word abortion.

    Lot of fucking good it will do us to feel all self satisfied about “fighting the good fight” while watching a POS like Obama preside over the destruction of this great nation.

  91. ” the only people I know who actually voted for Obama, their issues were abortion and gay marriage.”

    Yeah, I’m sure we want to shape the whole future around that crucial “people you know” demographic.

  92. Hey, deadrody: thanks for all the Mittens!

  93. You’re right, deadrody. It was a big win tonight for people who want to be able to kill babies on demand. We should probably just agree with them if we ever want to get power again. At which point we can keep our policy preferences to ourselves lest we risk losing re-election.

    Looking for blame? Look at yourself.

  94. Romnesia, binders, and 300 nukes in the arsenal unilaterally is sane. Abortion opposition is not. I gotta write that down in case I forget.

  95. Oh, and gay marriage? You ‘believe’ in evolution, no? You do realize that, evolutionarily speaking, gays are dead-enders who are but drone-parasites on the human population; their inability to (naturally) reproduce and sustain their genetic traits makes them completely useless to the human species. Evolution weighs gays, and finds them wanting, and useless.

    SCIENCE!

  96. Something tonight reminded me of a line from Lincoln’s Second Inaugural: “The Almighty has His own purposes. ‘Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh.'” It’s a sin, but I despair.

  97. any candidate from any Tea Party, Libertarian, Conservative, Republican, Constitutional, Lincoln, or other party claiming to oppose Obama over the next 4 years should be stoned in the public square for even MENTIONING the word abortion.

    I’m confident you’ll get your wish –at least metaphorically.

  98. My last was for “thanks for all the Mittens.”

  99. for even MENTIONING the word abortion.

    eff u g-d damn baby killer

  100. I wonder what the new post 2012 Ace will look like. Transformation! Forward!

  101. Ace will be even more pragmatic, because obviously Mittens wasn’t pragmatic enough to win.

  102. Oh, and marijuana usage? Not just a ‘harmless weed’ after all

    Researchers at the University of Bergen in Norway have found new support for their theory that cannabis use causes a temporary cognitive breakdown in non-psychotic individuals, leading to long-term psychosis.

    In an fMRI study published this week in Frontiers in Psychiatry, researchers found a different brain activity pattern in schizophrenia patients with previous cannabis use than in schizophrenic patients without prior cannabis use.

  103. Of course, I’m also guessing you haven’t realized that the Catholic Church just became a political party.

    s’okay. I’m sure a lot of nominal Catholics haven’t realized it yet either.

  104. eff the homo /abortion crowd. swallow disgust dickheads.

  105. I voted for the Colorado pot initiative. I don’t care if Maine wants gay marriage. That’s their right to decide.

    But don’t give me your talk of positive freedoms when Michelle Obama is writing kids’ lunch menus and buying a big soda is outlawed.

    When it all comes crashing down, you’ll just blame it on the capitalists anyway. So just take take take while you can and pretend you’re enlightened. You aren’t. You’re a subject.

  106. Guys, we’re still here. We know it’s bullshit, and even though we all disagree on some points, we know the party’s over. All the better for us, our careers, and our families.

    The old ways of arguing with lefties is over. The new way is more about survival, more about being cool without Bob Dylan’s approval. Which I think we all knew anyway.

    Obama won, but he scraped by. Di, you’re right, and a lot of idiots are going to suffer, but now’s not the time to weep for our principles, because they haven’t been proven wrong.

  107. fluke you baby killers

  108. Serr8d – antigay. Newrouter – antichoice. Winning formulas all around. National consensus. Progess!

  109. Which side of us, Ernst? My side, or the “Lesbians just want to be preachers” side?

  110. Yea, go to war with the gays and aborted babies. Best of luck to you.

  111. So we did it their way and we got 2008 all over again. So now we gotta do it their way AGAIN, only faster and more intense? Fuck that. Fuck them. They want to be a regional rump party? I ain’t stopping them. I just hope the ‘evil enemy of all mankind’ Tea Party has a plan and some fortitude because the elephant is more than halfway to the fabled graveyard.

  112. Dalekhunter – useful idiot.

  113. Abortion is a subset of eugenics; that Progressive ‘cure’ for what ails humanity. Progressives enthusiastically embraced eugenics right up until about, oh, 1945.

    Now all’s they have left of it is abortion. They keep it close to their evil, black hearts like a blanket, until the time they can restore the rest of their missing pogroms.

  114. “cranky-d says November 6, 2012 at 10:41 pm
    Ace will be even more pragmatic, because obviously Mittens wasn’t pragmatic enough to win.”

    But but pudding jokes and SMOD! At least no one stole his rubbers, all theocraty like.

  115. Science is Homophobic, who knew?

    When did choosing to accept responsibility for your choices become antichoice? Was in 1970 or maybe 1965?

    It all seems to fit together to me. But that’s probably because I’m a bigot and a hater.

  116. No, I’m not antigay, daleboi. I’m anti-LeftLibProgg. If gays want to take up with those naasty creatures, then I’m anti-gay-who-is-also-but-a-subset-of-LeftLibProgg.

  117. So, how long do I have before Ted Cruz sidles over to the winning side to get some work done for the people in the Senate? March maybe? May? Is he a six-monther?

  118. Not just a ‘harmless weed’ after all…

    No kidding, serr8d. It is a gateway drug in young’uns. I am convinced of it, data and empirical evidence is on my side.

  119. Newrouter – antichoice.

    nah anti margret sanger/hillary clinton/sandra fuck

  120. And if by ‘choice’ you mean the ‘choice’ of killing a nascent human soul in the womb, then I’m the one who’ll defend that nascent human soul. I’ll be your huckleberry.

  121. Anti gay, racist, anti science. Those are all just fancy easy to say that someone has displeased the mawstuh. Just contemporary fnords like “wrecker” or “fatcat” used to be. They make you feel instead of think.

  122. It’s one step closer to a civilized society. That’s all there is to it.

    Civilization, slavery same difference.

  123. More like serfdom than slavery. After all you can leave. Once you pay your debt to the company store. You didn’t build that BTW.

  124. It may have been a five thousand year leap forward, but it’s going to be a Rascal ride in reverse.

  125. How soon do we have to begin the collective living? Because I’m not doing that. I need my space.

  126. Heh. ‘CHObamaOM’ !

    This implies that it is the cannabis use itself that leads otherwise non-psychotic individuals down the nightmarish path towards schizophrenia by imitating the cognitive weakness that is the main risk factor for developing the psychological condition.

  127. Want the truth? The same people who have driven “our” narrative the last four years will continue to do so. Their readers will stay and listen like dogs returning to their vomit.

  128. sorry to get real , time for states to say no way to fed govt

  129. The younger the worser, serr8d. It’s part of why there are so many morons running around.

    I know people who have been smoking weed for 40 years and they’re like alcoholics with the creeping dementia.

  130. I just hope the ‘evil enemy of all mankind’ Tea Party has a plan and some fortitude because the elephant is more than halfway to the fabled graveyard.

    I suspect the tea-party died tonight as well.

  131. wait! I’m an engineer too! take me to costa rica, i’ll help Bob! (okay that was like an hour up thread but whatever)

    you know what some Obama voter said to me today?

    “Don’t watch Fox News, we’re not meant to live in fear”

    wow. just. wow.

  132. I know people who have been smoking weed for 40 years and they’re like alcoholics with the creeping dementia.

    But, but, that’s what LeftLibProggs want! A piece of the puzzle to their ‘Greater Society’!

    Abortificants for their minds.

  133. Well, I’m a lowly scientist. I’ll stay here on my little piece of lakefront.

    That’ll teach ‘em.

  134. Granny was right, serr8d: ‘Idle hands are the Devil’s workshop.’

  135. Yes, “conservatives” must stand tall. With, like, anti Akin hashtags. Go team!

  136. Yeah. Let’s not kid ourselves. The Democrats will collapse under the weight of their control, but I don’t see the Tea Party or Republicans seriously finding ways to move forward past this.

    But that really depends on the next election cy… ah, I can’t even say it.

  137. I’m a help desk analyst. Not sure if I want to keep my job or just leave and blow my savings in Vegas or something.

  138. idle woman’s body parts ax sandra

  139. Ready to listen now? We either change it from the basic building block upward or we move inexorably toward greater and greater tyranny.

    Choose. Reader polls are not the way forward.

  140. I love how people like James Taranto think that this economy is Obama’s now and he’ll have to own it.

    Right.

    Most of the people in this country will NOT learn from our mistakes, including most of the people on our side. They’re too invested in the current system to realize that they can’t get there from here.

  141. shout out to lugar et al: thanks won’t see you anywhere soon! eff u

  142. Obama is happy to own the economy. He wants this to happen. It’s his desire to see the collapse.

  143. Ugh, Di. You weren’t watching the pathetic Fox News “Now surely Obama will start working with the Right” coverage, were you?

    That there explains our margin of loss, I say.

  144. Of for fuck’s sake. It was Obama’s economy before tonight.

    Fucking mulligan presidency is what we got.

  145. He won’t own anything. It’s not his way.

    I wonder who he’ll blame when a majorAmerica city explodes in a ball of Muslim-driven flame?

    Hint: Not Islam.

  146. Well the western hemisphere is going to be ripe for pillage. I hear the vandals at the gate waiting for the torches to go out. I sure hope they like solar panels and electric cars.

  147. Well fuck.

    I predicted a Romney landslid, so if you listen to me anymore your intelligence could legitimately be challenged.

    Still, ain’t going to stop me from making further predictions:

    Obamacare is here to stay.

    Amnesty for all illegals in the country.

    7.5% unemployment rate (adjusted…14% real life) the new normal.

    High taxes/new national value added tax.

    Taxation and heightened regulation of the internet.

    Runaway energy (gas, electric, natural gas/propane) costs and deteriorating infrastructure.

    Ultimate loss of international stature.

    Loss of international currency standard, and descent into crippling inflation.

    400 rounds of golf.

  148. …that don’t work.

  149. “Ugh, Di. You weren’t watching the pathetic Fox News “Now surely Obama will start working with the Right” coverage, were you?”

    Right? What right? No one home but us agile pragmatists.

  150. Ready to listen now? We either change it from the basic building block upward or we move inexorably toward greater and greater tyranny.

    No. They’re not. And they never will be.

    The Republican party as currently consituted is an impediment to genuine progress. So it’s going to have to be destroyed.

    Which means losing elections.

    While we still have elections to lose, that is.

  151. I feel your pain, Lee. I thought it would be a landslide, as well.

  152. It’s his desire to see the collapse.

    But if it goes sideways, it won’t be his fault.

    After a certain point, people don’t wake up to reality anymore. They can slam the airplane right into the mountain and still not realize, as they wander around dazed and dead, that the annoying people who showed them exactly what was on the radar (and out the windshield) were right and they were wrong.

  153. Ugh, Di. You weren’t watching the pathetic Fox News “Now surely Obama will start working with the Right” coverage, were you?

    I was watching The Blaze at work. Nobody was delusional over there.

  154. At The Blaze, that is. Nobody was at work but me.

  155. let’s start effin obamacare. who is amish/ muslim or self described OUTLAW

  156. Lee, you left out the part about the GOP splintering ahead of the ’14 and Democrats retaking Congress.

  157. Dinesh D’Souza’s next movie will be called “2016 IIL I fucking told you so!” You’ll have to watch it on one of the old thumb-drives that you keep hidden under the loose floor board at the hostel though. The newer ones won’t play it due to a copyright claim. They’ll let Dinesh go with probation provide he remain in Rich Lowrey’s custody at all times.

  158. How’d Glenn take it?

  159. Still, ain’t going to stop me from making further predictions:

    That’s just a slightly worse version of what we’ve got now. Maybe you don’t see that the front end of the canoe is actually over the edge of the waterfall.

    We don’t survive the entire Obama administration. That Russian guy who predicted that we’d splinter into five or so countries? He was probably right.

  160. To say nothing about 2 or 3 supreme court vacancies.

  161. How’d Glenn take it?

    He and Pat and everyone else who had been fasting chowed down on ice cream and steaks.

    And then they reckoned that Relying on Divine Providence doesn’t necessarily mean that things don’t get REALLY bad before they get worse, because sometimes God needs to knock some heads around before he lets people have some peace.

  162. Man, starting a new country sounds really good about now.

    But still a little early. The dollar has to become an obvious joke first, and of course gas has to go up to about eight dollars a gallon.

  163. True. After all, Israel was repeatedly conquered and lead away in chains.

    And, hate to get theological, but I really do think we might have to pay a high price for our “Abortion on demand” ways.

  164. gas has to go up to about eight dollars a gallon.

    That’s all? Whazzisface was aiming for at LEAST nine.

  165. ” I hear that if we reelect dear leader with a 97% margin or higher we will all get a free pizza!”

    “Great! What’s a pizza? ”

    “Oh that’s right. I sometimes forget that you are too young to remember pizza. ”

    “Must be Romnesia. ”

    “Damn it! This black widow spider won’t bite me! It’s leaving because I make it sad.”

    ” Fool! Even Locke-ian freedoms are an illusion! I’d report you but…I don’t really give a fuck. And I don’t know who Locke is or was. ”

    ” Come back you lazy #@#$ing spider! Come back! “

  166. “That Russian guy ”

    Which one? That sounds interesting.

  167. Well, got to keep the dummies hopeful. And it looks like just below 8.0% is the winning number.

  168. Argh. Himself is going to speak.

    I hate having a ‘rock star’ president. It’s like I’m living in a Firesign Theatre skit.

  169. To say nothing about 2 or 3 supreme court vacancies.

    Well shit on a stick, I meant to include that, along with a pithy opinion on what a 6-3 Supreme court portends.

  170. our “Abortion on demand” ways.

    That’s part of it, but certainly not all. The phrase “whosoever loveth and maketh a lie” comes to mind. Revelation puts those types of liars in the same bin as murderers and whoremongers. I didn’t used to understand that, because I thought that telling a lie couldn’t possibly be anywhere near as bad as murder, but now?

    As Dennis Prager says, the worst atrocities come when people believe lies. And after seeing so many lies pass unchallenged, and seeing so many people content with lies instead of the truth, I get it now. The murderer kills a handful of people, but the liar can destroy a nation.

  171. Which one? That sounds interesting.

    It was a few years back. I can’t remember enough to search for it.

  172. It’ll be back above on Friday.

  173. Shorter O: Forge your chains.

  174. Bedtime.

    If the sun doesn’t come up tomorrow, I want to be lying down for it.

  175. That’ll be the one concession to reality they make, agreed.

  176. Hmm… Very good point, Di. You’re on fire tonight.

    I mean, so is the Republic…

  177. “If the sun doesn’t come up tomorrow, I want to be lying down for it.”

    The sun isn’t coming up. The Earth is going down. And the turtles are long time gone.

  178. So, the transformation will be completed. Welcome to the new world…subjects.

  179. All right, that’s enough for me. Got to rest up for the day of pathetic, short sighted gloating, I’m sure.

    My final thought is roughly Di’s. We’ve had it so good for so long, I can’t really be shocked that people have become stupid and greedy.

    But like hell that’s how I go into the cold, dark night. Game on, assholes.

  180. Is no longer no game.

    Shits going to get real, real soon.

  181. - Boy Bumblefuck was really doin’ his Southern Baptist precher schtick in his acceptance speech.

    – Well kids, fellow Patriots, lovers of that shining city on the hill that’s just a forelorn memory now, I wish those of us in our small but loyal community the best through the tough times we will need to endure, but I will never give up on that dream so many of my family before me gave their lives for, Nit ever.

    – Whatever the future brings to each of us I leave you with these words of one of my distant cousins.

    “Mine is not to question why, mine is just to do or die. Let me always strive in those basic beliefs and truths we hold dear, and against every tyranny of man stand firm, give me liberty or give me death”.

  182. I think I may be over, as well.

    I’m over and out. I have no choice.

    And they elected this crew of criminals with a 303 vote mandate.

  183. Oh, and for what it’s worth, fuck the entire “right” who, almost to a man, reminded us not only not to squander our votes but lied when they said that the guy who just dragged himself, his family, and us through this second national embarrassment was our best hope.

    In fact you all lost like the rented mules you are to a sociopathic Administration and Establishment — under which in the next four years we’ll without question lose both first two Amendments, two more SCOTUS seats, our Internet freedom and voice, and some of us our lives under Obamacare — whose national embarrassment of a “President” demonstrated and/or promised us not yesterday but four long years ago that he’d do all of the above. He really was nothing other than exactly, precisely what he has proved himself to be and you helped fuck up the only recourse we once had, which was to step up and do the right thing.

    You sad, pathetic pricks and your electoral college mapware and your idiotic blogs and your calling for 350 and 400 and 400+ vote Romney mandates. Jim Cramer has a better record then you.

    One thing I will not be doing in the new year is wasting a minute of my remaining time on any of your foolish, mewling “conservative” websites.

  184. Insty’s last post is at 8:40pm

    Did they all commit hara-kiri?

    Glenn and Co are one of the biggest disappointments of this cycle. The PragProgg “libertarians”. He lost me forever when he defended the personal income tax.

  185. Hewie Hewitte, you lying little jerk. What few times I wasted time listening to you this year you were handing out GOP kneepads and going on about it like a stadium teevee preacher.

    Fuck you.

  186. William at 10:42;

    “now’s not the time to weep for our principles, because they haven’t been proven wrong”.
    Not wrong, just irrelevant, at least as a nation/people.
    I’m sorry, guys. I wish I had some words that could make this better for you. But there aren’t any.
    Many of us have seen this coming for a long time. The talk always being of fixing the party , the economy, etc, etc. But a nation is only as strong as it’s people, and the people were lost a while back. The leftists understood human nature was where this fight would be won or lost. ‘Free candy’ trumps personal responcibility everytime. And when you’ve allowed 2+ generations of your children to be indoctrinated, when political correctness is allowed to stifle outrage, when one obscenity after another is allowed to become more and more acceptable, then you have lost your soul, and with it, your people and your nation.
    Goodbye, America. I will never forget you, and I will always love you.

  187. Serr8d – antigay. Newrouter – antichoice. Winning formulas all around. National consensus. Progess!

    Sodomy + Filicide = Enlightenment! Think about it, kids. You don’t need to worry about AIDS if you don’t get born, do you?

  188. Ready to listen now? We either change it from the basic building block upward or we move inexorably toward greater and greater tyranny.

    First, we hit the wall. Then, maybe.

  189. Here it is, and I’ll say it, and I don’t care who calls me what. Last night was baked into the cake in 1965. The Left couldn’t get what it wanted from the American electorate, so it imported its own electorate better suited to its purposes:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965

    With brief, fleeting interruptions, the United States government has only gotten bigger, and our politics smaller in the time between. And now our politics is susceptible to the cult of personality formerly suited only to the third world.

  190. So, what do we do? What do I do?

    Seriously, you guys both get it–you see what is happening, and has been happening–and you’re older and wiser than I am. What do I do?

    I’m 32 years old. I’m a part-time preschool teacher making peanuts and my youngest child’s tuition. My husband works a decent job for a branch of the military (I know, I know) but we live month-to-month. We don’t have luxuries. We don’t get any handouts of any kind. We have very little cash in the bank. We have four children we’re doing our best to raise with the right values. We’re barely making ends meet and holding our heads above water. We can’t buy bug-out property. We can barely furnish emergency kits. We are well and truly fucked when/if the tax increases come in January because if our income decreases especially if/when the cost of gas, water and electricity continue to increase we literally will not be able to pay our bills.

    I see the American experiment crumbling around us, and I know that we need to be prepared, flexible, mobile and unmoored, but how do we do that when we’re in debt and we have no money? Do we start compromising our principles and start bleeding the beast-lying about income to get free school lunches, run up the credit cards on prepping supplies and declare bankruptcy, whatever? I suppose if we put our money where our mouth is we’d take a home equity loan to pull out what cash we have on the house and abandon it, cash out the seventy grand we have in a 401(k) and the kids’ small college accounts and either A. head for the hills and await the revolution, or B. head for someplace like the remote Australian outback and dedicate the rest of our lives to teaching our kids about Western civilization. How does one do that, though, when one has been prepared with the skills for a soft suburban life and not for survival?

    Please advise. I’m serious. I don’t have anyone else that I can ask.

  191. Ooops, I didn’t mean you guys “both” get it; I mean you “all” get it. There are slightly more than two of y’all around.

  192. Is there some nice, warm Caribbean island with decent infrastructure already built, a fairly corrupt government, and not much of a military? Can we get a few billionaires to bankroll Blackwater/XE to invade and set up a Galt’s Grotto?

  193. Civilized? No. Domesticated? Not really. Coppertopped. Yeah, I think that captures it.

  194. Ruby: That’s an excellent question, and I’d also like to see people’s thoughts on the matter. Unfortunately, I suspect this thread is dead at this point. You should repost the question later this evening in whichever thread is most-happening at that point.

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