October 30, 2012

“WH Silent on When Obama Learned of Benghazi Attack and Whom He Ordered to Secure U.S. Personnel There”

Obama is offended that you’re questioning his forthrightness. So he and the rest of his Administration are going to keep silent to teach you all a lesson.

Which frankly is a fate you’ve earned. For the presumptuousness you’ve exhibited.

You have only yourselves to blame now for being kept completely in the dark. Obama would have told you everything had you just shown him the proper deference and agreed up front to blame somebody else, no matter whose fault it actually was that people died and no rescue was attempted.

But you wouldn’t enter into such talks without those preconditions, would you?

Racists.

Posted by Jeff G. @ 11:56am
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Comments (73)

  1. Can we get his PACs to shut up, too? ‘Cuz I’d be willing to accept that sort of punishment.

  2. He’s awaiting the results of the internal investigation, because he’d “like to break that story.”

    Just like Gunga Dan!

  3. Unpreconditional should maybe enter every vocabulary in bulk.

    Thus:

    Display an unpreconditional shaking of hands. Vouch for an unpreconditional contribution of three-bean salad to the Church social dinner. Assert an unpreconditional surrender of native rights. Blame an unpreconditional emission of methane for the stink in the room. Hold an unpreconditional assumption of the virtue of the vicious. Blend an unpreconditional jelly liver with an unpreconditional shaky leg. Forward an unpreconditional derogation of national security interests.

    This little term can go very far if unpreconditionally given the opportunity.

  4. It’s our fault for dressing in the Constitution in the first place. We just look so frigging hot in it, our natural rights sticking out in all the right places.

  5. When their speaking is all lies and distractions then silence is the container that is filled with the truth.

  6. They’re not their, arrgh.

  7. I think it is incorrect to say no rescue was attmepted. Two former SEALs disobeyed orders and saved 20 people at the embassy even though it ended up costing them their lives. The fact that they had to ignore stand down orders is what ought to get everyone’s blood boiling. Had they stood down, perhps those two brave men would be alive, but there might have been 22 dead at the embassy or maybe a few less dead with the rest becoming hostages.

  8. youtubes are a goddamn menace and people are gonna keep getting killed until obama or somebody establishes some sensible guidelines

    I mean how many wake up calls do people need before they wake up or whatever

  9. One more week and we can stop thinking about elections.

    For about 10 minutes.

  10. Some professor guy wrote Insty about the media attempts to bury the Benghazi stories, saying in part: “Partisans in the MSM have been standing there guarding a door while the walls of the house around them have collapsed. Perhaps they should recall the effectiveness of the Maginot Line circa 1940.”

    As much as they might consider the Maginot Line however, far more should they consider how stupid, how untrustworthy they make themselves when they fail to see the impossibility of achieving their object from the start though, no?

    That is, the media may be unaware of the penetration of Fox news reports or AM talk radio — but is it reasonable that they should be unaware? Or they may not know how many people learn of events through the billions of opportunities on the World Wide Web — but is it reasonable that the media should not know this?

    Of course not. After all, they’re the ones standing amidst the ruins of former commercial successes in printing and broadcast, watching their bureaus shrink their colleagues being laid off, their magazines disappear and find themselves wondering when it’s their own turn to get the ax. And yet they’re to be supposed to not know that this destruction is visited on their industry, and not know why it has come to them?

    Please.

    Yet they do choose to continue to pretend that they can bottle the story up; that the anger they arouse, the ill-will they create by omitting and by straight out lying, the loss of trust they guarantee themselves will be without effect on their own interests? That the presumption of stupidity they take of their audience and readership won’t redound upon their own lives? That a plain disconnect from reality somehow instills in them a badge of honor and trust?

    How? Is it in the sense that the green-grocer in Tunisia doused himself in gasoline and lit a match, or the Vietnamese Buddhist monks did the same in the streets? Attention will be paid?

  11. - What the WH gestappo is ‘investigating’ is all the myriad possibilities of spin.

    – My monies on them going for a storyline nased on the two seals causing the entire “escalation” because they disobeted orders. That will be the core of their whitewash to cover Bastardbama’s ass.

    “Stevens was safely secured in the safe area. If the two seals and the civilian had not provoked further response, the attacking group would have called it a day.”

    – I still think Obama had to withhold response because they were already aware the CIA presence was leaked by someone in the Feb 17th group, and they couldn’t be sure that the Libyans gov. wasn’t in on it, and a full scale war would erupt. Whatever was going on with the large contingent of CIA personel at the consulate is the key to the whole cover-up.

  12. - Since they’ve kept the other 30+ people that were eventually recovered from the consulate totally isolated, that just proves the ‘clandistine operation’ scenario and subsequent lies.

  13. “Obama is offended that you’re questioning his forthrightness. So he and the rest of his Administration are going to keep silent to teach you all a lesson.”

    Well, I went ahead and early voted against him to teach HIM a lesson.

  14. “cranky-d says October 30, 2012 at 2:40 pm
    One more week and we can stop thinking about elections.
    For about 10 minutes.”

    Unless Ohio becomes the new ‘Florida 2000′ and we have to wait until Dec. to find out who won with lots of hijinks and hearings and threats and pontificating until then.

  15. Et tu, NPR? They are showing Romney +1 over the Wonce.

    We’re not going to see 2000 redux. Vodka Pundit posits an Undertow Effect wherein Obama’s ‘base’ erodes and runs out from under him. I don’t know that it’ll be a blow out, but Romney is going to win by +3 at the very least.

  16. What’s he got on the desk in front of him, Dave? Is that a Nintendo DS?

  17. leigh: It’s probably an iPad with looped videos of his best speeches running 24/7. It’s Obama’s high-tech update of Stuart Smalley gazing in the mirror and chanting “You’re Good Enough, You’re Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like You”.

  18. - Bumblefuck politisizes Sandy. Lean Forward,

    – And of course the Lefturds vigorously defend it. Asking questions about Benghazi….not so much.

    – Current HuffPoop lede: “You’ve been asked 14 times, are you refusing to answer?”

    – In light of the past month you might thnink it was Obama being asked about Benghazi.

    – Don’t be silly, this is HuffPoop. Its the whore media trying with all their might to help Jug ears by asking Romney about his FEMA comments.

    – Naturally. Benghazi is invisible to Progturds, same as WMD’s.

  19. One more week and we can stop thinking about elections.

    You wish. I fear we’re going to have The Revenge of the Hanging Chads: This Time It’s Fraud.

    If it’s not close, they can’t cheat, says Hewitt, but it will be close enough in Ohio and Penn. and who knows where else to keep us biting our nails for weeks.

  20. WMD? I got that one tossed at me yesterday with a jumble of other topics.

    I pointed out that many of the Gotcha! items had happened since the sooper jeenus had been elected and that there were indeed WMD. Then explained all of the items in a bullet list.

    I got radio silence, which I take is a prog version of “Nuh-uh! Yer stoopid!”

  21. That is, the media may be unaware of the penetration of Fox news reports or AM talk radio — but is it reasonable that they should be unaware?

    It is not reasonable, but it is true just the same. The hallmark of a left-winger is that he does not know what he does not know. I was astounded at Cornell to see the degree to which people did not comprehend that other points of view existed, much less understand them. They’re like those folks with brain damage who, when asked to draw a clock, draw only half of it and think that they’re finished.

    They can’t muster outrage about Libya because outrage is a weapon to use against Republicans and teabaggers. Against whom would they be wielding their weapon if they went thermonuclear about Bengazhi? Against friend, not foe, and so it makes no sense to them to go into scandal mode.

  22. If it’s close enough for the Dems to cheat, then Obama “wins” reelection.

  23. I got radio silence, which I take is a prog version of “Nuh-uh! Yer stoopid!”

    My favorite is “That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve every heard,” which usually means it’s the FIRST time they’ve heard it and so don’t know how to respond. Either that or you’ve presented iron-clad proof to destroy their narrative but They Can’t Have That.

  24. Well, Di, when you’re right by virtue of the fact that you’re you, thinking your thoughts the same way everyone else like you thinks them, why waste your time considering alternative points of view?

    Alternative viewpoints are for people who don’t think in lockstep with you and everyone like you.

    The stupid bitterclingers

  25. “Partisans in the MSM have been standing there guarding a door while the walls of the house around them have collapsed. Perhaps they should recall the effectiveness of the Maginot Line circa 1940.”

    “And he who were pleasantly disposed could not well avoid to liken it to the exploit of that gallant man who thought to pound up the crows by shutting his park gate. ” John Milton, Areopagitica

  26. And too we get a couple of months of Schmucky blathering and schmoozing too.

  27. - “Truthiness” even Sandy couldn’t wash away.

    – Gallup had suspended its daily tracking poll pending the outcome of Sandy.

    – Apparently Romney 52, Obama 45 was all the embarrassment they could stand to expose against the screeching and rending of clothes from the Left.

    – Fat ass Moore, in concert with Moveon.org, has produced a new campaign ad featuring geriatric assisted living home old farts swearing like saikors and promising to “burn the motherfucker down and cock-punch Romney if he wins”. Nice. Real class.

  28. “Oh, wait…..nevermind.”

    – Gives you lots of warm fuzzies that these are the people running things, doesn’t it though.

  29. Acts of God? “We leave nobody behind.” Acts of Jihad? “Your on your own I need my beauty sleep.”

  30. You’re not your. That’s twice for me in one day. Wonder who I can blame it on?

  31. Blame it on The Innocence of Muslims: it’s got the hip-stance (plus cankles!) going for it.

  32. joey hairplugs is available

  33. - Your not alone on that one geoffb. Their our numerous ways two translitterate.

  34. - Weighs, not ways.

  35. - The labor department is now saying the jobs numbers report will be issued on Fri. at 8:30 am as usual. Apparently they’ve figured out a way to ‘jigger’ the numbers again.

    – I see what I did there.

  36. “So why was it unarmed?”

    Because the Obama administration has had no intention of carrying out Predator attacks on militants in Libya, nor has conducted any such attacks since the tyrant Gaddaffi was over-thrown. The UAVs in Libya were already there as surveillance assets in service to the CIA efforts and therefore were available to divert to surveil the attacks on our “consulate” and CIA installation.

  37. “8:30 am as usual. Apparently they’ve figured out a way to ‘jigger’ the numbers again.
    – I see what I did there.”

    Did somebody whistle real high pitched like? In the Dog hearing range? I guess not. Chris Matthews isn’t freaking out.

  38. - Look!…..Over there……Bunny shaped WMD’s!

  39. This comment on Politico is hilarious:

    Gosh…here comes the non-stop Obama praising (from the media and his own
    staff)
    What did people expect…for him to not declare states of emergency (the week before an election)?

    Are you kidding, me?

    He’d of declared an emergency if Sandy only caused a kitten to get stuck in a tree.

    The complicity of the media to serve as Obama’s advocates is unbelievable.

  40. - The over-the-hill hippies, and asocial misfits will always cling to whatever is stupid, amoral, and unpopular with daddy. Its all they’ve got.

  41. Mr. xkcd gets a couple of things conventional-wisdom (i.e., wrong) in his history, but he’s a science guy, not a history guy.

  42. The whole left right bifurcation not least.

  43. the graphic was colorful

  44. cranky-d says October 30, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    One more week and we can stop thinking about elections.

    For about 10 minutes.

    I just had the horrifying realization that if Obama loses this election that means he could run again for 2016.

  45. …..he could run again for 2016.

    – With Hillary now completely aware of where all the bodies are burried, thats not going to happen. I would guess she could totally deatroy him in the first week of campaigning, and this time he has nothing to bribe her with.

  46. - The Clintons and the Climtonestas have had 5+ years to put together a dossier on Jug ears. That little shot across the POTUS bow when she publickly tried to take the heat for Benghazi was her way of saying “Don’t fuck with me Chicago, its way above your real paygrade.”

  47. If it’s close enough for the Dems to cheat, then Obama “wins” reelection.

    After that, you’ll start hearing the drumbeat to repeal the archaic 22nd Amendment…

  48. To be fair, it was a party oriented graphic, so that part’s sorta in-bounds.

  49. For the most part we have to accept the [left right ] bifurcation in our own time I think, or in the application to our own politics, even in those instances when it doesn’t actually clarify our politics or our issues in dispute — our running controversies — simply because it has been bequeathed to us and we’ve used it as our own thus long — plus the trade off of working through the problem doesn’t generally seem to improve our political advance on the here and now-ish grounds. And it could be that the simple bifurcation is generally sufficient to us, though I’ve some doubts that way. As for instance in Codevilla’s rulers-ruled analysis, cutting through the obscurities of the partymen.

    And it’s not as though I’ve some better way to go about making a universally applicable handy dieresis, since I don’t think we’ll find such a thing in any event. The subject is too complex, it seems to me, so we have little choice but to try to take it all in, which in turn means nothing if not a vast mess of contradiction reaching out in every dimension. But hey, whaadda we gonna do? It’s messy, human life, and we’re no place near to comprehending it all.

    Yet I believe we do risk too much damage to the truths of older politics and the thinkers of those politics in those instances when they knew nothing of any such nominal left-right divide, nor thought about it in any meaningful sense, or at least not meaningfully in our sense, when we go about pasting our own overlays on them. It’s an old burden with me, so nothing new. I’ve groused on “values”, “culture” and the like before, and this is another instance of much the same problem: I think we port our concepts backwards in time too easily, and as we do so we lose what we might elsewise discover. And losing that, may lose something we need without knowing we need it.

    So, too much serious political thought of older times is lost is how I see it, or is at least in constant risk of being lost for not being substantially unearthed as it was for the actors thinking and creating the politics they owned.

    But even digging up the origins of our own commonplaces — like the left-right bifurcation or our ubiquitous use of “values” and “culture” — seems to have been left along the wayside, as though there’s nothing to be learned from the digging. (I don’t mean to say that the origin is never a question, but that it’s still too infrequently so to exhibit the salience the questions might have in themselves. It’s as though ” left/right, it’s just a thing” or “values, they’re just a thing” in the same way the moon or the Rockies are “just a thing”: something we’ve nothing to do with putting there to be found.)

    Maybe if we restricted the history to simply saying “look, there were parties. There are always parties” I couldn’t find fault. But drawing lines of inheritance, of genealogy, is another sort of posit that appears to me out of place in what after all is a severely condensed sketch. Maybe it’s better the attempt to make the connections of birthright and inheritance should be left to other kinds of political history, where some of the mess is allowed to show.

  50. - Maybe. Or maybe its just as simple as Jefferson said. Some will willingly sell their souls for security, even if its just the illusion of security.

  51. - Facebook exposed.

  52. I have Facebook friends who are genuinely confused about what leadership qualities Romney has that qualify him to be President. I would tend to think that for one, he’d be more apt to push a budget all the way through the Senate than Obama has (or, more precisely: has not).

    I don’t have much more hope for Romney than that. At this stage if it was Obama vs Hillary, I’d probably vote for Hillary. Four years ago the opposite would have been true.

    But it’s all about his skin color, and his Democratiness.

  53. Maybe if we restricted the history to simply saying “look, there were parties. There are always parties” I couldn’t find fault. But drawing lines of inheritance, of genealogy, is another sort of posit that appears to me out of place in what after all is a severely condensed sketch.

    Actually, the points where I found fault with the graphic had to do with how he characterized the ideas that arose at various stages and how they affected the party distribution in Congress. But again, since he’s not a history guy — and as you say, it’s a severely condensed sketch — I figure it’s not altogether fair to expect him to get all the details exactly right.

    If kids were still taught history instead of “social studies,” maybe.

  54. That “we leave nobody behind” remark about Sandy should cost O! every single military and intel agency vote forever.

  55. Re: Obama saying “we leave nobody behind.” Does he do this unconsciously (because he knows Benghazi could do him in) or is he really such a dick that he doesn’t care how unbelievably wrong it is to use that phrase after what he’s done?

    If this email is to be believed, Obama may not have many military votes left to lose. Then again, one of my rare, recent Obama bumper sticker sightings was one of his “Vets for Obama” stickers on an SUV bearing a Navy license plate. Made me sick.
    http://tinyurl.com/cyxq3pa

  56. *I don’t have much more hope for Romney than that. At this stage if it was Obama vs Hillary, I’d probably vote for Hillary.*

    Are you fucking insane? Maybe you’re being sarcastic and its so subtle I’m not picking up on it but its that kind of ridiculous bullshit is when I tune you out. Oh yes, Hillary’s great, she’s been great on foreign policy, she’d be a great POTUS, Romney, he just sucks and has shown no leadership qualities whatsoever.

    REALLY?

    What the hell is wrong with you?

  57. Ok I misread that- you’d choose Hillary over Obama, rather than Hillary over Romney.

    I wish there was an edit button. My apologies. =)

  58. Knowing how sensitive you’ve been in the past about the way most of us here view Romney, Matt, I’d buy you a beer and say don’t sweat it.

    FWIW.

  59. That “we leave nobody behind” remark about Sandy should cost O! every single military and intel agency vote forever.

    Word.

  60. Working class voters: why America’s poor are willing to vote Republican. Gary Younge tries to find his ass with both hands; fails.

  61. My apologies. =)

    Not to worry, Matt. Props for correcting yourself before others did.

  62. Newt’s hearing stuff:

    On Tuesday night’s “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren” on the Fox News Channel, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said that major news networks might have secret emails proving that the White House canceled plans to assist the besieged U.S. Embassy in Benghazi.

    Gingrich said that the bombshell emails could be revealed within the next two days.

    “There is a rumor — I want to be clear, it’s a rumor — that at least two networks have emails from the National Security Adviser’s office telling a counterterrorism group to stand down,” Gingrich said. “But they were a group in real-time trying to mobilize marines and C-130s and the fighter aircraft, and they were told explicitly by the White House stand down and do nothing. This is not a terrorist action. If that is true, and I’ve been told this by a fairly reliable U.S. senator, if that is true and comes out, I think it raises enormous questions about the president’s role, and Tom Donilon, the National Security Adviser’s role, the Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, who has taken it on his own shoulders, that he said don’t go. And that is, I think, very dubious, given that the president said he had instructions they are supposed to do everything they could to secure American personnel.”

    Doesn’t sound like he’s just playin’ a game with us: more like he’s letting the “two networks” know he and others know what they’ve got, and he (and the “senator”?) may be willing to spill his information (to the networks’ detriment) if they don’t publish.

  63. Happy Halloween guys.

    Over at Blackfive, an email from a retired Army SF (Delta) fellow takes Leon Panetta & “The Panetta Benghazi Doctrine” to the Thunderdome.

    Two men enter…

  64. When their speaking is all lies and distractions then silence is the container that is filled with the truth.

    They’re not their, arrgh.

    Only if you ditch your is.

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