October 26, 2012

General Petraeus gets his payback: Obama goes under the bus

Now you can call him General Betray-us, you craven, dishonorable supporters of an Administration that stood back and allowed Americans to be murdered so that it wouldn’t take a political hit, or at least delay the hit until after the election — and in the mean time tried to pin the murder on our own First Amendment and a “shady” American filmmaker who remains even now in prison.

The Weekly Standard:

Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: “No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”

So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?

Let me answer that:  he’d already cut a commercial featuring Morgan Freeman suggesting Obama had essentially ended the threat of terrorism; and acknowledgment of this attack, and the players involved, would cost him a big political hit in the run-up to his foreign policy debates — and pierce the mythology of his foreign policy strength. He was prepared to let things play out and hope for the best.

This was, we’re now finding out, a calculated decision to let Americans die for what Obama believes is the Greater Good:  his duty to “fundamentally transform” the United States.  The SEALs who ignored orders and went to the aid of the consulate were collateral damage.

Obama is a Marxist true believer.  He is the cause, and the cause comes first.  And any one who votes for him now, once they learn of this (and the media will naturally downplay it, or allow Obama to obfuscate and distract, if they raise the issues at all), is voting for a man whose first instinct is and always will be to save himself and promote the cause, and he doesn’t really care who gets crushed along the way.

I wonder if even the true believers he surrounds himself with are starting to get a bit worried about what this man is capable of doing to keep any stink off him.

Sorry, comrades. But perhaps you’ll just have to take one for the team.  That’s how important it is for Obama to be re-elected. Forward is so close we can practically touch it.  Can’t turn back now…

(thanks to nr)


Geoff B sends the following along:  “[Below are] thumbnails of both the Consulate area and the Annex with the best guess descriptions I have been able to figure out as no reporter/photojournalist is putting a good description on any images. In some cases where it is night or they made a dark image for dramatic effect I changed the gamma setting for more detail.”

Also, must listen: “It was a conscious act.”

More: “BOMBSHELL: US Troops Would Not Have Been Painting Assets on Ground Unless Their Was Air Support Overhead – But White House Called It Off”

See also: “Bigger than Watergate: Proof that the President is Lying about Benghazi?”

In updates 5 and 6, a source suggests Panetta wasn’t lying. “Another (very very trusted) source is saying that the AC130 resources were in the middle of a rotation and that the new resources weren’t ready yet so no help would come from Sigonella. So that confirms Panetta’s statement.”

Even so, why, on 911, was there no contingency plan for that region? No ships in the Med? No armed drone? You don’t paint that target unless you believe something capable of taking it out is looking down.

Posted by Jeff G. @ 5:12pm

Comments (93)

  1. KYLE CLARK: “Were the Americans under attack at the consulate in Benghazi Libya denied requests for help during that attack? And is it fair to tell Americans that what happened is under investigation and we’ll all find out after the election?”

    PRESIDENT OBAMA: “Well, the election has nothing to do with four brave Americans getting killed and us wanting to find out exactly what happened. These are folks who served under me who I had sent to some very dangerous places. Nobody wants to find out more what happened than I do. But we want to make sure we get it right, particularly because I have made a commitment to the families impacted as well as to the American people, we’re going to bring those folks to justice. So, we’re going to gather all the facts, find out exactly what happened, and make sure that it doesn’t happen again but we’re also going to make sure that we bring to justice those who carried out these attacks.”

    KYLE CLARK: “Were they denied requests for help during the attack?”

    PRESIDENT “OBAMA: Well, we are finding out exactly what happened. I can tell you, as I’ve said over the last couple of months since this happened, the minute I found out what was happening, I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to. Number two, we’re going to investigate exactly what happened so that it doesn’t happen again. Number three, find out who did this so we can bring them to justice. And I guarantee you that everyone in the state department, our military, the CIA, you name it, had number one priority making sure that people were safe. These were our folks and we’re going to find out exactly what happened, but what we’re also going to do it make sure that we are identifying those who carried out these terrible attacks.”

  2. I’d pay Charlie Woods bail if he pops the Wonce right in the jaw.

  3. Another theory I heard floated was that Democrats are horrified at the idea of another botched rescue attempt, which seems likely.

    It all adds up to a pretty fucking cowardly bunch, any way you deal it.

  4. Obama was interviewed by a local CO station where the reporter asked him a direct question about who gave the order to stand down/take no action to assist and O had the nerve to say repeatedly that he’s conducting a full investigation to find out what happened. So Obama thinks either: a)we’re stupid enough to believe that he wasn’t actively involved and knows exactly what happened w/out the assistance of a 6week + investigation, or b)he really wasn’t involved with the discussions during the 7 hour attack, which is a dereliction of duty. Un-frickin-believable. http://tinyurl.com/9qg8qo8

    Bonus points to the reporter for repeating the question after Obama’s stream of b.s.
    (found at Ace)

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  6. obama asked youtube nicely to please take that video down and they flat out refused. What else was he supposed to do?

  7. Why would Obama and Biden do such a thing? Because to launch a military operation against an al-Qaeda affiliate on the anniversary of 9/11 would have exposed the hollowness of their boast through convention week and the days thereafter — that Osama was dead and al-Qaeda was finished. And so Ty Woods, Glen Doherty, Sean Smith, and Chris Stevens were left to die, and a decision taken to blame an entirely irrelevant video and, as Secretary Clinton threatened, “have that person arrested.” And, in the weeks that followed, the government of the United States lied to its own citizens as thoroughly and energetically as any totalitarian state, complete with the midnight knock on the door from not-so-secret policemen sent to haul the designated fall-guy into custody.


  8. Jarrett. And thus, Obama.

  9. I’ve heard that too, bmoe. So rather than a botched rescue, they just left them to die. That was their decision. To let them die. Rather than risk looking foolish. Because of the optics.

    Where’s Nishi, indeed.

  10. Leigh, I’d chip in for Mr. Wood’s bail, too.
    Also, I’d chip in for one of those showboating lawyers that love high profile cases (anyone but Allred) to represent him in demanding that the administration provide him the details on his son’s last 8hours. He needs to pull a full-on Cindy Sheehan.

  11. WHITE HOUSE INSIDER: Emergency All Call At Obama White House

    Second scenario not as likely. Not yet. But the Ruemmler activity makes me believe there’s more damaging information out there to the administration on Benghazi than has already come out today. They are trying to assess what will and will not get out to determine response. To have a potential scandal of this magnitude so close to an election is unprecedented. Priority for them will be to insulate the president. Got to try and cut that off. Get someone inside go public and point the finger at Obama.


  12. You leave no one behind. Unless it’s one of those jingoistic jarhead motherfuckers. Sometimes you have to break a few eggs and all that…

  13. Rather than risk looking foolish.

    me thinks it is that baracky doesn’t trust the “military/industrial/cia complex”. all those years of proggtard indoctrination makes him stupid in this area.

  14. Tales of botched rescue may both assume too little and too much. On the one hand a single F-18 could carry more than enough fire power to turn back a few dozen assaulters (too much). On the other hand, our ground forces assigned to stand ready at rescue missions are freakishly well trained and prepared to deal with all manner of contingency (too little). But then at this point, it’s about all a matter of political fortunes over the dam; blood run out the veins; CarbonMonoxide laden smoke inhaled to poison the body.

  15. Libby, I hear ya. What was that guy’s name that used to wear buckskins all the time and had hair like Wild Bill Cody? He used to opine on the news all the time during the OJ trial. Jerry something? He’d be great. That or some shrill NYer type like Ron Kudy.

    I’d have Charlie in front of a camera 8 hours a day. He’s a lawyer himself so he knows how to play this.

  16. Obama needs to explain how the Camp Bastion terrorist attack happened, too: http://tinyurl.com/949ml3h

  17. Geraldo is bleeding out the eyes trying to explain this away on O’Reilly. He’s screaming at him that there’s no way Jugears can go out and do a press conference this close to the election. O’Reilly is telling him fuck the election! (Good for Bill) We need to know what happened here!

  18. All this questioning of Dear Leader, isn’t gonna be considered optimal. Not one damned bit, nosiree.

  19. From nr’s link

    In this situation there will likely be 1 of 2 responses from WH.

    -Highly controlled briefing response. Attempt explanation, then hope story gets buried over weekend and race to election day.

    -Announced resignation of someone inside administration. President apologizes for mistakes by some in his administration. That deal could be under negotiation at this very moment.

    They have a problem because the order would have had to come from POTUS. I expect they are trying to get either the head of AFRICOM or the SecDef to take the blame.

  20. You leave no one behind. Unless it’s one of those jingoistic jarhead motherfuckers.

    And an ambassador whom you personally appointed. And who was performing cleanup for you in the first place.

  21. dicentra —

    They might have already known he was taken, in which case it would be a hostage situation or they assumed him dead; whether or not this was to be staged and it went bad is another question entirely.

    Who is going to take the hit for Obama, I wonder?

  22. Wasn’t it a delight to see Charles Lane of the Washington Post stand up for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s dignity and honor against the awful accusation of Charles Woods that in his impression Sec. Clinton was insincere in her condolences at Joint Base Andrews the day Mr. Woods’ son Tyrone was returned to his native land? I know I felt better about Charles Lane, that’s for sure — he’s a giver that way (and only that way).

  23. She was busy trying to pitch the video story. It wasn’t insincere so much as distracted. Mr Woods should be ashamed of his choice of words.

  24. “Damnation Alley” would be a good name for a docu-drama about this Benghazi screw-up.

  25. White House story falls apart. How hard would it have been to scare off a bunch of disorganized protestors? I mean, that’s what the White House said it was at the beginning according to their “intelligence sources”. Spontaneous protestors gone wild, or something like that.

    But Leon Panetta just said they didn’t want to put more Americans in harm’s way. Is Panetta saying that the U.S. military has no units that can stand up against disorganized protestors? If there really was a serious “harms way” situation that figured into to the decision not to intervene in the attack in Benghazi, that means the decision-makers must have realized this was a serious attack and NOT disorganized protestors angry about some video.

    BTW, Obama refused to deny the allegations that requests for help were received and denied. It would have been the easiest thing in the world for Obama to say, “Those allegations are not true. We’re still investigating the details, but I can say for certain that those allegations are not true.” But he didn’t say that. Obama just said the investigation was ongoing. Translation: the accusations that requests for help were made and then denied are true.

  26. Bush would’ve taken this hit, had he screwed up this magnificently. Obama just isn’t the man George Bush is, is all.

  27. Whatever happened to that crack FBI team Obama sent over there to investigate the site after it had been unsecured for a couple of weeks?

  28. Biden is a foreign policy expert and he says one of the dead guys had hypertrophied testicles. That’s the sort of highly personal detail you could only know from reading a very detailed CIA briefing.

  29. Do we know why a U.S. Ambassador was trolling Behghazi Libya with a driver on September 11th? A meeting with a Turkish diplomat?

    I wonder what was on the agenda.

    We’ll never know.

  30. Barack isn’t the man Michelle is, for that matter.

  31. “Translation: the accusations that requests for help were made and then denied are true.”

    I’d only add that he must also believe they’ll (eventually, and possibly criminally) be revealed as such, otherwise he’d a just lied as you indicated.

  32. Is Panetta saying that the U.S. military has no units that can stand up against disorganized protestors?

    He remembered Clinton and Haiti.

    With about 200 lightly armed troops aboard the U.S.S. Harlan County steamed into Port-au-Prince on October 11 – only to find that its berth was blocked by small boats and a seemingly menacing crowd of heavily armed civilian threatened violence. Unwilling to risk confrontation, Washington ordered the Harlan County to withdraw from the harbor.

  33. “Damnation Alley” would be a good name for a docu-drama about this Benghazi screw-up.

    Instead we get this re-edited pic about bin Laden’s killing released right before the election — a movie re-edited to give Obama a more prominent role.

    Fuck, they should have just CGIed his ass roping down from a helicopter then shooting bin Laden himself as the SEALs stood by nervously not knowing how to proceed.

  34. A couple ideas that don’t reconcile with one another but I think are equally plausible:

    -Barry is being shown the door. The Bigs cannot have this much liability lying around and since Romney will be nearly as friendly to the entire firmament of socialist bullshit already in place — including to fix Medicare, et al — plus will cotton to Wall Street, the Fed, the UN, the globalists, and the world banking cartel, in he goes. They slid us a leftist Republican and we bit.

    -Alternately, were Barry to win reelection, in six months even this Press would finally piece all this Benghazi stuff together in the mother of all 60 Minutes exposés and about that time if anyone thought Nixon was nicely drummed out of office, watch this sucker. Out of office and maybe into Club Fed. Of course that leaves a truly crazy Biden at the controls … so maybe these two scenarios really do fit together.

    I don’t think we know but a sliver what’s really going on. Engineered or not, there isn’t a finer way to save the country with all of its mighty socialist infrastructure intact than to rescue it at the last minute from an increasingly transparent, flighty, and corrupt POTUS. Not sure if even I go for that but when the net results are identical, who’s to say if it was designed that way or just happened.

  35. What’s Obama going to do when the ME goes crazy over a feature length film? Is he going to arrest Harvey Weinstein?

  36. Now I conclude this letter to you by now answering, in as much detail as I can, the meeting with Mr. Soros that took place some time ago. I would not consider it as dramatic as our friend put it to you, but perhaps there was just a hint of former glory on display, though I had, as the kids today like to say, “backup” that I am certain added a significant bit of authority to my own demands, though, to be honest, I was far from the most aggressive participant.

    George has always been a bit of a bouffon. He is new money you know. I, and others like me, are old money. And while the currency he has amassed now dwarfs my own personal fortunes, currency is in itself not power, nor influence, particularly given its rapid inflationary decline over the years. He is keenly aware of that fact, and increasingly resents the very condition he himself helped manufacture. There is power and there is POWER. In that regard, George has always stood on the outside looking in. Much like the Man Calling Himself Obama, George’s own life has been motivated by resentment. Such resentment cannot help but poison over time, and poison lacking either sensibility or courtesy is what he has been for a very long time now.

    So yes, there was a meeting. I will tell you that much. It is a meeting none there will ever speak the particulars of, most notably George himself. Directives were given to one whose existence has for the most part held little interest to us. But at this time, the future is truly at stake. The dangers have not been this great to so many for a very long time. Society does now, at this moment, truly sit upon the precipice, and manipulators such as George will not be allowed at such a moment, to freely practice their particularly foolish and offensive brand of avarice.

    Beyond that simple telling, I tell you no more. You do not wish to hold such information, for that kind of knowing often comes at far too high a cost, and I would not corrupt you in that way. I will share but one physical observation. George appears very very tired. Perhaps more so than even me.

    Continue to do your work, and those others like you who are doing the same. I continue to marvel at this new media that has so recently manifested. What a remarkable thing it is. This battle of Romney and the Man Calling Himself Obama, this election of Good and Evil, now comes to its inevitable conclusion. I cannot guarantee victory, but I do believe I have, in my own way, helped to assure its very real possibility.

    That final conclusion, be it righteous or wrong, now rests with the people, as it always has in the history of this incredible and magnificent experiment that is America.

  37. Obama thinks the Bin Laden story is about him. It’s like the gravediggers who thought “Hamlet” was about them.

  38. Levin: “No one wants to find out what I did more than I do.”

    6 fucking weeks and the United States of America doesn’t know what happened? Fuck you, Barack. Your ass belongs in prison.

  39. How are you liking your “Good Man” now?

  40. Bruce Springsteen to Campaign for Obama in Pittsburgh

    Sandy, that waitress I was seeing lost her desire for me
    I spoke with her last night, she said she won’t set herself on fire for me anymore
    She worked that joint under the boardwalk, she was always the girl you saw boppin’ down the beach with the radio
    The kids say last night she was dressed like a star in one of them cheap little seaside bars, and I saw her parked with lover boy out on the Kokomo
    Did you hear the cops finally busted Madame Marie for tellin’ fortunes better than they do
    For me this boardwalk life is through, babe
    You ought to quit this scene too

    Sandy, the aurora is rising behind us
    This pier lights our carnival life forever
    Oh, love me tonight and I promise I’ll love you forever
    Oh, I mean it, Sandy, girl
    My, my, my, my, my baby
    Yeah, I promise, Sandy, girl
    Sha, la, la, la, la, baby


  41. Heh. Mr. ‘Good Man’ pundit is shell-shocked right about now, from what I’ve gleaned reading a certain evil creature’s blog. I’m almost at the point of feeling sorry for him. Almost.

    What’s sad, is Dan Riehl given a 50-50 chance of survival.

  42. We’ll see how long this lasts:

    Oh, come now. Obama is a Good Man. He certainly loves his wife, his children and his dog. He’s one of us! I’m sure of it! I hope he doesn’t fail.

  43. That sucks about Riehl. Hope he pulls through.

  44. In reference to the above pictures, I think that gaping hole in the roof parapet is probably from an RPG. The Libyans were using 82mm mortars (you can see the splash from one of them on the roof), but those come in at a pretty high angle, and shouldn’t put a hole in hardened concrete like that.

    Just a nitpick.

    And whoever made the decision to deny air support to those Americans dying on the ground needs to stand tall before the man.

  45. From Blackfive regarding the C130.

  46. The guy who made the decision IS the man. So what you gonna do now?

  47. Bones, I thought the same thing but viewing the damage from both the top side and the bottom concluded that it was a mortar shell coming almost straight down an hitting the roof right where it meets the low wall around it and then blew the hole through to the lower side. but I could be wrong.

  48. The video that I pulled the Annex pictures from is here.

  49. I am almost ill about this – time to hit the rum.

    I NEVER left anyone to hang like that – US or Brit, Afghan or Iraqi. Heads need to roll for this – from the lowest shithead GS12 “watch officer” at whatever desk to the SECDEF, SECSTATE and anyone else whose grubby paw prints are on this.

    Otherwise, why the hell should anyone in the field ever believe they have support again?

  50. Geoffb, you are not wrong – mortars can do that – I’ve seen enough of it. RPGs don’t pack quite the punch either.

  51. One trouble were there an AC-130 on station over Benghazi, it would have pilots and weapons crew on station over Benghazi. One would expect such persons would have something interesting to say about the situation, no? Thus far (and thus far is many weeks) not a peep from men we would suppose to themselves be gravely aggrieved at an injustice to their fellows. So.

  52. Geoffb, but note the other mortar splash on the rooftop? See the direction at which it came in and detonated?

    An incoming mortar round would have had to come in almost perfectly vertical to miss the edge of that parapet, and land right in that angle where the roof meets the wall.

    I’m not saying it couldn’t have happened, and the wall may have helped it focus the blast and tear that big hole, but an RPG could be expected to do far more damage on steel-reinforced concrete than a standard mortar-round.

    It’s a minor point… I’m not sure which of us right.

  53. One would expect such persons would have something interesting to say about the situation, no?

    i hear you can be arrested in the usa for voicing opinions at odds with the regime.

  54. “I hear you can be arrested in the USA for voicing opinions at odds with the regime.”

    Or even if you go so far as to insult the Prophet Mohammed in a crudely dubbed video clip.

  55. sdferr, they’d be military. So, not their place. Unless we’re tossing the rule book out. Which, it might be high time for that.

  56. BumbleBee Greta is pissed and wielding her sting. She had some interesting guests tonight, not least Bing West and Bob Scales.

  57. I NEVER left anyone to hang like that – US or Brit, Afghan or Iraqi.

    This is not what Americans do. We do not cower. We do not shrink. We do not run away from trouble. Until we do.

    God help us.

  58. Not their place to speak quietly to interested journalists? After all the secret-splashing the Obama administration has been gratified to commit to the front pages of the New York Times to do itself its own honors? Faugh. Please.

  59. That would be throwing the rule book out. Which, again, it might be time for that. There would also be consequences.

  60. I don’t have a rule book so I wouldn’t know. But of course these are merely hypothetical speculations in any event, as I don’t think there was an AC-130 orbiting over Benghazi in any case. Still and all, evidently Tyrone Woods has his own views about taking orders from higher headquarters. ‘Course again, he was no longer in a military chain of command. But if there had been airmen over Benghazi who saw that they could act and were ordered not to act, I believe those airmen would find a way to inform a journalist (at the very least) of their presence over the battlescene. And goddamn them if they didn’t.

  61. There was a spectre gunship IN LIBYA at the time. This platform was DEVELOPED for the purpose of ACCURATE air to ground support and fire suppression for the purpose of RESCUE.

    Oh and by the way, “take one for the team” means: bend over and Oh, there’s no lube.

  62. Sorry, in catching up, I see others already mentioned this.

  63. Oh and by the way, “take one for the team” means: bend over and Oh, there’s no lube.

    foward comrades

  64. 4 dead in oiho

  65. If there wasn’t a C130 orbiting, then there was at least an armed drone. You don’t “paint” the target until you’re in sync with the air asset.

  66. Ohio benghazi”

    Tin soldiers and baracky Nixon coming,
    We’re finally on our own.
    This summer I hear the drumming,
    Four dead in Ohio Oiho.

    Gotta get down to it
    Soldiers are cutting us down
    Should have been done long ago.
    What if you knew him her
    And found him her dead on the ground
    How can you run when you know?

  67. Please. Find no blame for the AC-130 pilots and weapons crew on station over Benghazi. One would expect such persons would have something interesting to say about the situation, but don’t expect them to have more information(big picture, IE the wisdom of their orders) than anyone else, nor speculate publicly on matters WAY above their pay grade.

    Leavenworth isn’t the only consideration to a soldier that, as a matter of responsibility, and even honor, don’t allow themselves to be drawn into the political. It’s disloyal, against their oath, and downright unprofessional. That’s what generals are for…

  68. Sorry if this is boring.

    My case for a mortar hitting the junction of the roof and the low wall.

    The upper side of the hole, seen at 1:28 in the video, is smaller than the lower side, seen at 0:34, the hole is beveled toward the lower side, the reinforcing rods are bent toward the lower side, there is very little concrete rubble on the roof and a lot down on the walkway under the hole, seen at 0:23.

    I do see that the fragments from the other round go most away from the wall.

    Too though that the [ex] SEALs on the roof were able to paint a laser on the mortar crew means that they were likely fairly close in and were not firing indirect from a hidden and or far away location so the rounds would be coming in almost vertical.

  69. Blackfive’s latest update says

    Another (very very trusted) source is saying that the AC130 Marine resources were in the middle of a rotation and that the new Marine resources weren’t ready yet so no help would come from Sigonella. So that confirms Panetta’s statement.

    Still and all, why paint a target if no one’s around to do anything about it?

    Just to clarify, when you “paint a target,” does that mean you put a laser dot (smudge, whatever) on something that needs bombing? And that the overhead asset (plane, drone) locks onto that laser dot and finishes the job?

    I ask because the penultimate update says

    The only way I buy that the former SEAL was lasing the target without an active asset to synch to and destroy the target…maybe, just maybe, it was a last stand move. Maybe he did that to give the inbounds a target if he didn’t make it…

    If he paints a target but is taken out before the air support arrives, how would later support see it?


    there is only one reason to cease returning fire and paint a target and it ain’t because you thought it was a good time to pull a PMCS on your fucking GLD.

    Translation please?

  70. “Translation please?”

    PMCS is preventive maintenance, as in you wouldn’t service your equipment during a firefight.

  71. Stars and Stripes confirms the Greenwald disposition matrix and kill list story in the Guardian.


  72. – My guess as to possible dialog during Beghaxi attack:

    (Scene; NCS meeting in the WH ready room; Those present or on speaker phone: Jarrett, Axelrod, Clinton, WH CIA chief Laison, ASECCOM, AFIRSECCOM, TRSECCOM, WH NSC laison, variuos direct COMSEC staff, recording secretaries. Entire room watching attack unfold in real time on large plasma display, fed from drone comm link in Libya.)

    POTUS: “Assessment people?”

    Cabinet/staff member: “Mr President, if we respond we implictly declare this as an act of war. Everyone will demand we respond accordingly.”

    POTUS: “Setion commanders, General Petraeus?”

    Petraeus and SECCOMS: “We can direct covering fire from the loitering drones, and send in assets to recover our people….. its doable.”

    POTUS: “A surgical strike and recovery….minimum engagement and out, no extended conflict?….What does ELINT/DEFINT say?”

    CIA/NSA laisons: “Its a direct attack, possibly 30 to 50 insurgents using mortars, RPG’s, and automatic rifle fire. Indicated 2nd backup group near safe house 6zebra81…(points to ongoing battle on real time display as he talks)….Best available says thats the limit so far and….(Cabinet/staff member interupts)

    Cabinet/staff member: “Mr President, if we go in and this all escalates it could destroy the entire ME ensemble of our policies and strategy…could even spiral out of hand and cost us in this election cycle. The other side of the coin….the consulate has already been overrun, we don’t exactly know where Stevens and the rest are at this point, we might be trying to rescue people who have already perished to no good end…..You can see for yourself the condition of the encampment so….”

    POTUS: “You’re saying its too risky, and too far gone?”

    Cabinet Members: “A tough call but basically yes, based on our best tactical and intel info that’s our assessment.”

    POTUS: “Section commanders, General Petraeus….you all agree?”

    Petraeus and SECCOMS: “We don’t leave anyone behind, we just don’t do that, not for any reason…..In fact if we give the order to stand down we can’t even be sure they won’t try anyway. IRSECCOM tells us a few have already done just that so we….”….(Cabinet/Staff member interupts again)

    Cabinet/staff member: “Mr President, there doesn’t appear to be any upside to this, and almost surely a major, indeterminent downside. There’s just no win here unfortunately. Its a horrible situation but not something that can be recovered or helped with any reasonable assurence of success.”

    (Battle continues to rage as discussion becomes more heated, and then tapers off. Those in attendence watch in stoney silence for another 10 minutes, nervous coughs from time to time, and uneasy movements at the table. Suddenly more intense explosions light up the screen, and fires break out in the compunds real annex.)

    Petraeus:”Jesus, we can’t just sit here and let this happen Mr. president, we…”

    POTUS: “Look, what if we just do nothing….not issue any stand down or interfer…..Just let things take their course…..That way we aren’t, uh, we’re not put in a position of starting a, uh, a war like response…What about taking that approach?”

    (As Petraeus starts to respond a COMint staffer walks up to the PONTUS and leans over whispering in his ear and then repeats the action to the General, then waits at attention. Petraeus looks up, an intense frown on his face.)

    Petraeus:”Mr President, that’s request number two…..what do you want me to do?”

    POTUS: “Alright, uh, lets not, uh, nobody is well served if we, uh, if we lose our heads here….lets finish what we were saying….the idea of not issuing any command for or against a recovery effort. You know things could ease up, quiet down….We don’t know that they will continue on like this and….”

    Petraeus:”Barrack, that last message said they are losing fast, one civilian cincam, and a staffer already dead, the remaining cincam trying to hold them off, and as far as doing nothing, if we don’t act then the standing orders kick in and we automatically scramble the IRAFR team, and it goes from there. The drones were the first step, and the one remaining cincam is painting the main enemy target expecting a drone airstrike which will commence in three minutes if we don’t….”

    POTUS: “Wait, hold it….What do you mean “will commence? What is that, will commence, are you saying, uh, they don’t need a direct order…uh, oh yeh, contingency in case they get cut off and….ok, yeh…..forgot about that….but then that means we need to….we have to make some decision here……we…..uh….we need to decide…..damn…”

    Cabinet/staff member: “Mr President, we need to take a cautious approach here, not fly off the handle…..as you said, things could improve if we just give it some time. For now we could just issue a temporary stand down until we see how things develop.”

    POTUS:”Ok, ok, Lets….uh, ok, lets do that and make sure they understand its just temporary until we can better assess the situation….just a temporary stand down, ok ladies and gentlemen, are we all in agreement here?”

    Petraeus under his breath amid the various responses around the room: “Jesus, what a fucking whimp…..”

    (…..to be continued.)

  73. As I said, Glen Reynolds and one of his readers nails it:

    UPDATE (From Glenn): Reader John Koisch writes: “It’s not Blackhawk Down. It’s worse. Recall that the major problem in BD was the UN commander was unwilling to risk casualties to protect forward US positions and troops in the city. This is the US unwilling to protect its own. It’s like we have the UN for an administration or something.”

    “all enemies foreign and domestic”

  74. dicentra “If he paints a target but is taken out before the air support arrives, how would later support see it?”

    The laser device can be used to determine the range to the target, so they could send the coordinates to the “incoming” assets.

    “Translation please?”

    If you’re in the middle of a firefight, you don’t put down your weapon to lase a target if there’s nothing in the air that can shoot at it.

  75. A while ago, a conspiracy theory was floated that the Benghazi screwup was actually about a fake kidnapping of Stevens so the administration could look tough when they negotiated the release of the Ambassador.

    I much prefer that scenario, bad as it is, to the idea that the administration let Americans die because they didn’t want their chances at reelection damaged by Al Qaeda showing, in Benghazi, that the reports of their death were somewhat premature.

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  77. Al-Qaida head attacks Morsi for ties with Israel — (A Muslim brother can’t catch a break):

    Al-Qaida leader Ayman al-Zawahiri called on Egyptians to protest what he termed President Mohamad Morsi’s “normalization” of ties with Israel, AFP reported Friday.

    In a 58-minute video summarized and translated by the SITE Intelligence Group, Zawahiri called for mass demonstrations “against the Israeli embassy and against normalization and the peace treaty with Israel, and against the Israeli occupation of the land of Palestine, and against any concession and surrender to it, and against every siege in Gaza.”


    In a separate video released on jihadi forums, Zawahiri called for Muslims to kidnap Westerners and urged the full implementation of Islamic Sharia law. “The battle isn’t over, but it has started,” Zawahiri said. “I call upon Muslims to capture citizens of the countries that wage wars against Muslims.”

    Zawahiri, who was bin Laden’s lieutenant and the brains behind much of al-Qaida’s strategy for many years, also directly challenged US President Barack Obama, calling him a “professional liar.”

    “Obama must admit he and his allies are standing in the defeated line, and that Osama bin Laden, may Allah have mercy on him, and the rest of the Mujahedeen and the Muslim Ummah are standing in the victorious line, whether anyone likes it or not,” he said.

    Poor ol’ Obama, he’s getting the underbus treatment from everywhichaway: pretty soon even his own beloved Democrat-Progressive-Socialist Party will be dumping shit on his beleaguered head for his losing the Presidency in a near land-slide. Meantime they’ll all give themselves a pass, saying Barry just didn’t communicate their superior ideas well enough. Far be it from them to go back to the political drawing board to see where their inadequate philosophical reckoning of human nature went wrong.

  78. “Trust matters,” Obama said.

    So a lying piece of shit claims to be the most trustworthy man in America (without evincing the faintest hint of irony — he’s not a comedian, people).

    But of course he does. What else would a backward flailing progressivist be supposed to say? Something true? Now that would be comical.

  79. I am thoroughly disgusted by what has happened. If this is what passes for leadership, we’d be a lot better off with Mr. Tinkles running the country.

  80. I’d pay Charlie Woods bail if he pops the Wonce right in the jaw.

    I’d help pay for all the hookers and booze the protection detail could handle if they stood by and let him do it.

  81. UPDATE: Some of the info I am getting from contacts behind the scenes makes the whole thing look even worse than what has come out so far in public. I can’t go into it, but there was an ability and a willingness to respond. Someone very high up made a conscious decision not to respond. SecDef Panetta’s excuses are pathetic, and not worthy of him.

    UPDATE 2: I see that FOX is getting the same info I have been getting. FOX has been doing an outstanding job covering this. As I predicted in a prior post, folks at State and CIA are talking to FOX and will not take the fall for this disgusting misadministration.

  82. John McCain is probably a naive babbling old fuck up.

  83. Determined to recapture Jerusalem and the Al Aqsa (Golden Dome) Mosque, Badie told his followers, “Every Muslim is obliged to wage Jihad in order to restore it (Jerusalem) to Muslim rule”. Of the Jews he added, “Allah would free the world of their filth and corruption…Jerusalem will be regained only through Jihad, not through negotiations.”

    But mouthing “Amen” doesn’t suffice for Ayman. Only bloodletting will do.

  84. beemoe says October 26, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    Another theory I heard floated was that Democrats are horrified at the idea of another botched rescue attempt, which seems likely.
    It all adds up to a pretty fucking cowardly bunch, any way you deal it.

    Jeff G. says October 26, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    I’ve heard that too, bmoe. So rather than a botched rescue, they just left them to die. That was their decision. To let them die. Rather than risk looking foolish. Because of the optics. [emph add]

    serr8d says October 26, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    Bush would’ve taken this hit, had he screwed up this magnificently. Obama just isn’t the man George Bush is, is all.

    Bush wouldn’t have had any other choice except to take the hit. If Bush, or any Republican president for that matter, faced with this type of situation failed to act out of fear of a Libyan Desert One, he would take a hit anyways because he failed to act. So there’s no downside to ordering a high risk rescue attempt in the sense that the partisan media reaction will be to focus on failure either way (i.e failure to take action or failure to take successful action —all the same to the leftist politico-media complex). The only way a Republican doesn’t take a hit is if the mission is successful.

    So this is where I think the whole leftist partisan media bias/ academy driven view of reality as a near-infinitely malleable socio-linguistic construct bites Democrat administrations in the ass. For Republicans, there’s only one upside —to act and to succeed. For Democrats, there’s only one downside, to act and to fail. Thus, in proggtard world not acting is as good as acting successfully and better than acting unsuccessfully.

    Remember, the kill/capture Bin Laden mission was cancelled three times because they were more worried about the optics of failure than they were about the optics of allowing the opportunity to pass by. The same thing happened in this case. Only, unlike with Bin Laden, the Do-Nothings won out.

  85. “the kill/capture Bin Laden mission was cancelled three times”

    Or more than three times if we merely include the Clinton administration — still for the same reasons though, so within the ambit of your observations Ernst.

  86. The only way a Republican doesn’t take a hit is if the mission is successful.

    And even then, God help him if somebody takes a picture with both him and a “Mission Accomplished” banner in the frame. Only Teh One-and-Done is allowed to spike the football.

  87. Let’s chant it together McG.

    Tora Bora BOOSH! Tora Bora BOOSH! Tora Bora BOOSH!

    Ah, for the old days . . . good times.

  88. “Were they denied requests for help during the attack?”

    Mr Clark should have asked one more question (or at least a somewhat more direct question:

    Did YOU deny any request for help during the attack?

    Just to get it on record and to watch him try to duck it.