If the US hadn’t become such a nation of pussies, run by the dirtiest, meanest, swarming hiveminded pussies on earth — the institutionalized left, who want to sue and nudge and shame and manipulate their way into enslaving people (and who, let’s face it, control what the leadership and the “serious” punditry on the “right” is able to say, to think, and to advocate) — the response to yesterday’s incidents in both Libya and Egypt would have been swift, severe, and unblinking.
It would have sent a message to those who doubt our resolve and power. Who frankly have no earthly reason anymore to believe it, seeing how they’ve been able to get a political foothold here in the US, where they are defended, both by those wishing to appear tolerant, despite the obvious barbarism and the stated goals of these cynical butchers to undermine the US and the western Enlightenment, and by those who see them as allies of convenience in an attempted “progressive” coup of the US.
That these events took place on 911? Just another shoe tossed at our heads. Which we scratch and wonder what we should have done differently so as not to have caused them such anger.
11 years on, people. Were it me, I’d have made some glass. And then told anyone who demanded an apology to come and get some.
But then, I’m a violent psychotic — and unlike some, I don’t quite get the nuance of the worldwide RISK board — so take that for what it’s worth.
Peach it, my outlaw brother.
Preach it as well. Time to break my fingers for disobeying my brian.
See? They keep disobeying!
Hope and Change -> President Tire Gauge (he’ll rule a s a centris to heal our divided country-> Neo Carter -> Neo Carter with Nixonian tendenices -> Double Carter.
Great. The Republicans think it’s 2008 again and the world seems to thinks it’s 1980 again.
Which apparently was that we shouldn’t have let the Coptic Christian who escaped Egypt into America where he made a crappy movie. Perhaps we should have shot him at the airport. For tolerance.
For SGTTed :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19McuaPKjI8
To the world speaks America: “Let us explain ourselves to you.
. . .
No wait, on second thought we’ve forgot who we are. Give us a moment to explain ourselves to ourselves.”
I blame Pastor Jones
The saddest thing? I doubt very much if anyone even thought to broach the topic.
Absolutely we should have nuked Tora Bora.
Why, JD, is he related to George Bush?
It’s stunning, isn’t it?
I was born in ’79. My parents told me about Carter and his lovely reign. Thing is….Romney’s not really a Reagan, is he?
And things are a little worse now, considering 911 and the subsequent Marxist-in-chief.
I don’t see a comeback, kid.
Rush just played some answers of Romney’s to reporters’ questions that I thought were good
Reagan wasn’t Reagan in 79, either, missfixit.
You can ask around and the oldsters (me, for instance) will tell you that he was a stupid cowboy, an actor, a dumbass.
Thankfully, I grew out of that after he fired all the striking air traffic controllers. That showed the man had stones.
Palin or Bachmann would have done the trick.
But the beta males who control “our” punditry hate hate hated her, the poor stupid public-school educated bundle of populist prom hair. So she had to be destroyed, so only serious electable candidates can be put forward.
For the moderates and independents, you see.
It’s surrender. And frightened, backstabbing sabotage. Cast as realism and pragmatism and nuance.
I will respectfully disagree, Jeff.
Disagree with what?
Your last post.
Thank you Jeff for saying what my uncontrolled anger prevented me from writing.
“I would walk right up to their leader – the one they hate and fear the most – and I would smile and shake his hand, and then shove an ice-pick into his eye – his EYE, my friend – and I would get me some fuckin’ RESPECT!”
— Christopher Walken
It’s time to replace shock and awe with nuke and pave.
I agree completely.
There’s an old joke about the NCAA and its enforcement policies that any time Ohio State gets caught committing a major recruiting violation Cleveland State is going to get hammered.
That’s what this feels like.
What, specifically, leigh? My last post contains a lot of assertions. You disagree with all of them?
Are you disagreeing with the proposal that Palin or Bachmann could have lead a comeback?
Or is it with the notion that the opinion makers and shapers on “our side” are dominated by at one time socially awkward dweebs who, back in high school, would have gladly and eagerly done something utterly humiliating —in public no less— in exchange for a glimpse —a mere flash— of panty?
Jeff, I’d add that by now our moral currency abroad is shit. We here don’t even know what “we” there are doing, ostensibly on our behalf here.
That’s the other side of these beta assholes and no, it’s not blaming authentic America for a buncha freaks doing evil things. It’s blaming these same mismanagers for damages it’ll take decades to correct.
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Hell, I’d be happy to see shock and awe. It would beat the hell out of cower and grovel.
If Romney came out and announced that he was planning to replace three quarters of the White House press corpse [stet] with the a single chair for the head of the DNC, I’d vote for his squishy Rockefeller kissing ass in a hearbeat.
To say nothing of bow and scrape Pablo.
Yes, it is chock-a-block full of assertion.
I disagree that the ladies could have been our Margaret Thatcher, either of them. I liked Bachmann until she went over the wall on the vaccination thing (which we have covered ad nauseum here; what she said/what she meant/what we heard). I don’t care for women in politics, in general. And it has nothing to do with prom hair or public schools. It’s temperament and health.
Palin was thrown to the wolves and she helped herself along by quitting the Governorship and then taking up a very public profile wherein she reacted to each and every thing that was said about her. We have also discussed the reasons for her doing so and I’ll not revisit them here.
Now, all that said I could go for a woman like Condi running for president. She’s an ass-kicker and no quitter. However, she has also made plain that she has no interest in playing a part in politics any longer and I can repect that.
I respect your opinion and yours is one of the few blogs I participate in. I don’t want to argue with you about the merits of either of the women mentioned in your initial post because they are not running for national office. If they decide to do so in the future, then we can revisit their merits as candidates.
Yep.
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I don’t think Dear Leader speaks for me on this one.
Reagan wasn’t Reagan in 79, either, missfixit.
You’re right — he was Reagan in 1964, when he nominated Barry Goldwater for President. The media hype (conservative media included) is not the same as the man. People could see who Reagan was as a union leader, a governor, and a party man long before 1979. We can see Romney, too. And he is no more Reagan ’79 than he is Reagan ’64 or Reagan ’81.
Were it me, I’d have made some glass.
I don’t know about glass. I could certainly see myself putting a naval task force just offshore and letting the city know that the shelling would commence at dawn, and continue until the attackers were delivered to us. With regular airdrops of pamphlets repeating the ultimatum.
I might even follow it up with rewards for those who cooperated. But I’ve always been kind of a bleeding heart.
Have it your way. I was a little kid in California when he was governor. I’ve known him practically all my life, indirectly.
We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.
Right, Barry. And I suppose all the people you’ve denigrated for the past couple of years don’t practice a “real” religion, such that you’d have to respect it.
FOAD, Jug-ears.
After Tehran it should have been the explicit policy of the US that any attempt to force entry into one of our diplomatic compounds would be interpreted as an open expression of a death wish until proven otherwise.
That the consulate was left undefended in an unsettled country awash in heavy weaponry is the primary reason for this debacle. It was stupid, shortsighted, and irresponsible. An almost perfect encapsulation of the Obama administration. Therefore it will be disappeared ASAP.
“FOAD, Jug-ears.”
Seconded. Take your “Winter Holiday” and shove it, sideways.
BB-62, Lebanon 1983-84, Reagan if I recall correctly, shelled a town or two in the Shuf. Shortly thereafter the barracks were bombed. And we withdrew. So began a long story.
I thought Palin had the stones to do it, because she was *well and truly* outside of the establishment.
I think we are in a different world than 1979, although with similar news headlines. I still don’t see how this will play out completely. I’m not sure if the whole grid will go down, or if we’ll just have food & gas shortages, or if 1 shotgun will be enough or I need to buy 1 for each kid? sigh
Obama is the daddy of all pussies, that much is fo sho.
sunny-dee:
I do have one question for you: would Ford (i.e., not-Carter) have been better in responding to ’79?
I maintain Romney (i.e. not-Obama) would have been far better in ’12.
Heh. That would win my vote.
Let me disentangle that: we’re for free speech, unless the thing that’s said is hateful, as viewed by the person who might feel it that way. At which time, we’re against free speech. And we proudly demand the right to continue to say so!
You don’t get from that first sentence to the second one without eliding the near entirety of the historical record between the Founders founding and the rejector rejecting.
Is there any move to bring home all of our diplomats and close our embassies or are we going to pretend like there is still a diplomatic effort to be made?
Me, I’d move my gunships closer and evac our people. Then start the shelling.
Let’s just say Dear Leader’s position has evolved since going to war against the Catholic church’s position on providing free rubbers.
So you assert that neither would be better than what we have now, because Bachmann embarrassed you re: SCIENCE! and Palin didn’t behave with the proper stiff-upperlippedness we see with, say, Mitt Romney.
She’s a Bushie. I like Condi, but I don’t see her as a conservative or classical liberal, either.
Bachmann embarrassed you re: SCIENCE!
Yes. She sounded like a nut and an anti-vaxxer. I don’t cotton to that.
and Palin didn’t behave with the proper stiff-upperlippedness we see with, say, Mitt Romney.
I’ve not been impressed with Palin. She’s probably a nice lady. She says things people like to hear, I guess. There’s something “off” with her, though. I haven’t ever spoken to her, so I can’t put my finger on it.
Mitt > than Obama.
It’s where we are.
She’s a Bushie.
True. Condi is the smartest woman I have ever seen speak. She sat in front of the 9/11 commission for hours, never took a note and never flubbed once. Whether that translates to presidential timber, who knows? And we won’t find out, either.
Declining empires stop enforcing their will against their enemies. Decadent empires enforce their enemies’ will against their allies.
Doomed empires lash out to make themselves look as strong as they once were, but without the wit to aim where it will do any good to them nor harm to the target.
And then there’s Obama.
And then there’s Obama.
– In Vegas. Which says it all.
Like I said, I believe in Bigfoot. Yet I’m a perfectly reasonable, intelligent person.
I think Rush has your — and a number of GOP women’s — number on this.
I sincerely doubt that you believe in Bigfoot.
If you’re going to try to make the claim that I am jealous of Palin, I can disavow you of that. It’s also a cheap argument.
– The question Obama is running from is nit going to be answered and will be evaded with the help of the poodle media.
– “Mr. president, do you consider the attacks on our embassies and killing of americans an act of war?”
Are snarky comments about magic underpants denigrating? We won’t hear a peep about Romney’s Mormonism?
Sharmine Narwani ?@snarwani
100s of 1,000s of Arabs & Muslims slaughtered by American troops. Tell me again why I should care about whatshisname-plus-three? #Libya
These days I’m questioning things I never thought I would, among them the confluence of Libertarian and Occupy* trajectories — with due regard to how the latter fundamentally differs from the former morally — as well as a crapload of other things handed down through decades of American experience.
The older I get the more favorably I look at the original American structure and why it was composed as such. And it ain’t Republican.
* anything that tears down the bulk of the Power that’s enslaved this failshit little world of ours I’m for. Just not the crime-justifies-crime philosophy of these particular losers…
I’m an anti vaxxer. Or at least, I became one when my first baby went into shock from the pertussis shot. She’s not to have it anymore. But I’m a NuT!
So whatever. I hardly care about shit like that when Rome is burning and we’re still sniffing at the thought of women running anything more important than a kitchen. Or Yahoo.
My dad helped me pick out my first shotgun this week, has to be a 20 ga and short barrel so I can lift it easily, and to heck with it, might as well get one of those all-black “tactical” ones with the stock missing too
We are so screwed.
Don’t get one without a stock. Get one with a folding stock if you must, or an adjustable stock (much better). It’s much harder to aim well without a stock.
We are so screwed.
Not with a shotgun, you aren’t. And ditto what cranky said.
We are so screwed.
Seems almost like a Yossarianism.
– Rodney drowned in his own swimming pool, stoned out of his mind. Maybe he knew something the rest of us don’t.
….In other news: Rush apparently has the same suspicians I do, namely that Al Qaeda gave up Bin Laden on purpose. Possibly to get the US military off their ass, but also to boost Obama’s reelection bid.
Tell your dad you want to trade the 20 ga. for a M-1 carbine.
Seems almost like a Yossarianism.
Only if said while sitting naked in a tree.
I must have missed that part of the show.
I remember the part about how this latest bit of spontaneous combustion ‘mongst the splodey-dopes seems awfully convenient, timing wise, however.
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All personnel evacuated to Tripoli.
You’d be wrong. I’m very much into cryptozoology, and always have been.
As for my argument being cheap: an dinner can be cheap, nutritious, and delicious simultaneously.
As for my argument being cheap: a dinner can be cheap, nutritious, and delicious simultaneously.
See, there’s the difference between you and me. I’d have gone with, “You’re calling my argument cheap, after asserting that Palin is unfit because you feel there’s something ‘off’ with her? Try more harderer, please.”
I’d’ve gone with “so what your saying is you prefer your chock-a-block of assertions to mine?”
Never did I assert my feelings, Squid.
Ernst, this blog would be nothing without everyone asserting things like mad.
I’m an anti vaxxer.
Do your children go to public school?
Fuck Lincoln. I’m just putting that out there.
Heh.
Allow me to refer you to this:
Next,
I rationally assert that President Palin would have held true to what made her a fantastic governor. I have no reason to feel that way.
Especially well said, Jeff.
Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.
Oh, so THAT explains why the Broadway musical “Book of Mormon” never actually opened: it was too insensitive to the delicate and tender feelings of LDS church members.
That’s bullshit and you know it.
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I rationally assert that President Palin would have held true to what made her a fantastic governor. I have no reason to feel that way.
You are still talking about your feelings as to her potential abilities as president cast forward from what she did as governor.
Either that or you have a magic mirror.
He’s talking about Gavin Lincoln, a trust-fund baby and OWS regular who did a double major in Ethnomusicology and Samoan Folk Art.
Deo vindice.
“That’s bullshit and you know it.”
Oh yeah, fuck Bill Quick too.
Speaking of Bigfoot, remember this?
I’m surprised to see Peggy Noonan commenting here under the name “leigh.”
I may have had that in mind.
“Goldstein? Nah, doesn’t exist.”
— Bigfoot
That’s not nice, Mr. Van Thorn.
funny though
Michael Medved finds the Bigfoot story to be credible, too.
So there’s that.
My wife and I have just moved into an area known to be infested with Bigfoots — or is it Bigfeet? — but we haven’t seen any yet.
Something, though, left a damn big turd in the driveway a few weeks back.
Leigh, how do you square your description of Palin (“There’s something ‘off’ with her, though.”) with your claim that you made no such assertion (“Never did I assert my feelings, Squid.”)?
I suppose we could posit that your observation that “there’s something off” with Palin is an objective truth, and that your feelings don’t enter into it, but I’d like to see something along the way of evidence to support this interpretation. ‘Til then, I’m going with my hypothesis that you don’t like it when people assert their feelings around here, but you’re perfectly happy to indulge in such behavior yourself. NTTAWWT.
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…and I HATE coming to that conclusion — which appears to er, mirror Squid’s above mine — so congrats, leigh.
They understand only one language (and I’m not talking about Arabic), so that’s the one you have to speak to them in.
My mistake — it was a copy of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
You can see why I was confused.
That is exactly right.
President Obama does not want blame for his failed Arab Spring. The crowd in Cairo was chanting: “Obama, Obama, there are still a billion Osamas!” If he is so concerned with the feelings of the middle east, why spike the football so much over killing Osama bin Laden?
Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan did not cause this mess, it was murderous Islamic thugs that perceive Barack Obama as being weak and feckless. And they are right: Obama is weak and feckless.
Yes. Or Cain.
But better than any of those, Fred Thompson. If Fred were president right this minute, none of this ambassador-killing-and-parading would’ve been permitted to happen. Instead of two Marines not allowed to discharge their weapons, 20 Marines would’ve stood their ground and these Occupy Muhammad’s Goats sorts would have been minced meats.
With Fred, things would not have progressed to this current sorry state of affairs we see running course right now.
Obama owns this, these awful foreign policy failures presented to the United States on the eve of presidential election. There will be more trigger-events to come, culminating with Israel finally attacking Iran; Iran retaliating, with the US watching helplessly, afraid to join. Perhaps before November we will be witnessing carnage abroad. Will Obama have the nads to join?
Let’s hope none of that comes to pass. I’d rather see him re-elected than a huge loss of life in Israel.
‘Til then, I’m going with my hypothesis that you don’t like it when people assert their feelings around here, but you’re perfectly happy to indulge in such behavior yourself. NTTAWWT.
I’m just smarting for JHo’s benefit. Pay no attention.
smarting off, that is.
OT: Second visit from the local police today. This time, I know who the complainant was — the wife of the cop who I had a problem with and the across the street neighbors, the two parties who have caused all of our problems for going on three years now. (Not sure which actually called in; my bet is on the across the street neighbor. And yes, I asked).
Also this time, I WAS on my porch with TWO guns, along with my cleaning supplies and my range bag. Only the guns were sitting in pieces on a compact diaper changing pad I use as a mat, and I was literally scrubbing the gun parts when the cops approached me. As my wife told them, we have an infant son, and she doesn’t want me spraying solvent in the house. Too, because it had rained all day, the wooden table I have out back was soaked, so I elected to use the dry concrete step on my porch.
This time, the message from the officers was, sure, it’s okay to be cleaning your guns on your porch, but if someone sees you doing it and wants to file a menacing report saying you were pointing a gun at them, they would have to file the charges and let a judge sort it out. Because you have to put the gun back together.
To which I responded, well, they called you last time and told you I had a gun on the porch when I didn’t. So what prevents them from simply, you know, lying about it, and having me charged that way? Also, it occurs to me now that if I’m open carrying and one of these motivated complainants say they feel threatened, then really, the open carry laws we have here don’t really have any teeth, do they?
I wonder what the local PD would say were I to call in a complaint because my cop neighbor carries his rifle slung in a sling over his shoulder from his cruiser to his house? Would they have to file charges if I said I feel threatened, or is it different because he’s a State Trooper?
One of the officers told me that a menacing charge could jam me up and that that in turn might lead to my concealed carry privileges being revoked. Meaning, you can protect yourself, but if you do, just be advised that it could lead to your not being allowed to protect yourself or your family. That’s the fucked up system we now live in.
At any rate, it appears that by going to the range yesterday and getting carbon buildup all over my pistols, necessitating a good scrubbing, I’ve flushed the cowards out. Next, we do police-aided neighborhood mediation, which I requested. At which time my wife and I plan on telling the cowardly busybodies pretending to feel threatened (by a disassembled gun being cleaned by a guy whose house their daughter has been in a thousand times), that they don’t have to like us, but they should do what we’ve been doing for years now, and just mind their own damn business and leave us alone.
Apparently it just really rankles them that neither I nor my wife give a good goddamn what they or their little neighborhood cabalthinks of us. And that I just won’t succumb to their constant attempts to control me.
We just want them to leave us be.
I wonder what the local PD would say were I to call in a complaint because my cop neighbor carries his rifle slung in a sling over his shoulder from his cruiser to his house?
isn’t your neighbor making false statements to the police? can’t you file a complaint to the police about this? also isn’t this neighbor making libelous statements about you to public officials?
I find the minimum yard size for good neighbors is an acre (provided there are trees for screening). Twenty + is better yet.
you should seek some legal counsel because you are going against the police guild.
Is the neighbor cop a cop in your town? If not, you need to have a word with the Chief. If so, you need to watch your ass or these people will fuck you and they won’t give a shit how proper it is.
He’s a state trooper. I’ve filed a complaint against him (he said in front of my wife that, under some hypothetical, he could legally shoot me, and it freaked her out). He was cleared. But it’s on record. I said in the complaint that I felt he and a group of neighbors were looking to bully us and it was making it uncomfortable to live here. Which I believe is one of the reasons other neighbors they are friendly with are being used to call in these complaints.
I also said to the officer who took the complaint (one of his buddies, it turns out) that I didn’t want him to lose his job or be reprimanded, etc. Just that I wanted it on record.
time to find a new home i think
Jeff, is there a place at your range where you can clean your weapons until this all shakes out?
I can go out back and do it, leigh. It’s just that today it rained and the table was soaked.
Don’t know that there’s a place to do a full breakdown clean at the gun club. I’ll ask next time I go.
In this economy? The house is not too terribly under water, but it is just enough that it’s keeping us here for now.
I think trying to clean them at the gun club is probably the best idea for now. You could install an exhaust fan in your garage, unless you have a walk-out door that you can prop open and clean them out there since the very sight of weaponry seems to give your idiot/pussy/troublemaking neighbors the vapors.
the garage with a fan and the garage door slightly ajar.
New Environmentally friendly parts cleaning system for guns and weapons.
I live in a condo and don’t have a front porch to clean guns on, but even when just going to the range I make my gun toting as inconspicuous as it can be, simply because my neighbors don’t need to know what, when, where, how or why I’m packing.
I’ve use a folding card table in my basement to clean them because cleaning them on my pool table would be stupid. I suppose I should mention that I love the smell of Hoppe’s #9.
You certainly have the right to do whatever is within the law, which it doesn’t sound like you’ve been anywhere near the edge of, but I keep that shit on the down low as a matter of prudence. And I don’t even have troublesome neighbors. I just like to keep things on a need to know basis.
Oh yeah! For the planet!
We live in a police state. Anyone who has dealt with local law enforcement knows that. It’s just that at this time, most people are ignorant of that fact.
Asserting your rights is punishable by coercion and harassment, and the deck is stacked against you.
I clean mine out back. Fortunately I have a screen room that’s open to air. The worst my neighbors could do is complain of Hoppe’s #9 tearing up their sinuses.
What you might want to do is have a large blue tarp (say, 16 x 20) you can temporarily tie up in front of your porch, blocking the view. Then clean your guns behind it. Whilst playing some nice menacing musics.
As for musics, I’d recommend this.
what are you cleaning? carbon? you need a solvent for fricking carbon? please explain.
I see you Pablo, and raise up the devil.
Gird your loins and stick to your guns (if you’ll pardon me) Jeff.
Next time tell the cops you could easily break all the neighbors bones with just your hands, and ask if you need to hide your forearms in the house so as not to scare the pathetic pussies.
Or not…your call.
Streaming video the next time you clean/handle weapons in the front of the house might help establish to a judge that your neighbors are factually challenged.
You might also reconsider the need to clean your weapons after each use, or at least the need to do so immediately. Most modern weapons, when using factory ammo, can handle thousands of rounds before function becomes impaired. In a dry climate like yours the deposits will attract little if any moisture. But if that is still a concern then a simple wipe down/bore swab with something like CLP will cover you until the next full cleaning.
Gird your loins and stick to your guns
dude’s dealing with the police guild. let that dog alone. oh look waco/ruby ridge
about the shotguns without a stock — I did think that would make it harder to aim, but the stocks on all my dad’s guns are so big that I couldn’t comfortably shoulder it and aim, either.
I need something smaller.
I use the ‘bore snake‘ tools before leaving the range. Just pull the thing through the bore and you’re good for a while.
Oh, and more musics, for the ‘chosen one(s)‘.
You can get a shorter stock. There are adjustable stocks available as well. The trick is to be sure the shotgun you choose has those options.
For instance, there are a lot of stocks available for the Remington 870. I’m sure you could find one that’s comfortable for you.
might help establish to a judge that your neighbors are factually challenged.
de system suxs. be quiet and carry on.
missfixit, get this. It’ll absorb much recoil, and is adjustable.
I use bore snakes, as well. But I also like to keep the slide cleaned and oiled. Plus there are the mags to clean.
Pussy.
There’s a billion Muzzies. Probably better bow to their nasty asses too.
I use an aerosol spray for the pistols (plus the Hoppes venom bore cleaner on the bore snake). The spray isn’t to be used in areas that aren’t ventilated properly. Anything that says that on its label is kept away from the infant’s habitable airspace.
like this one?
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/remington-express-shotgun-81180-gauge-chmbr-black-barrel-shot-extended-magazine-knoxx-stock-p-98877.html
Pablo —
The State Trooper once told me he was within his rights to shoot me (this guy was calling procedure penalties at a pick up church football game one year; I kid you not). Another dude that’s friends with this cabal of busybodies held a screwdriver when he “spoke” with me. He must know he’s safe because he’s friends with the cop’s good friends. They’re trying to bully me. They’ve now heard my rattle, I guess. It was a courtesy that says, don’t even think about treading on me.
Incidentally, I’m helping an ex-special forces guy I know design a tactical rifle course/class. What are some things about real-world close quarter and mid-range combat with rifles you guys might like to learn? I can use additional ideas / suggestions.
So far, I think I’d like to see covered zeroing in the scope; quick field stripping; clearing weapons jams; how best to keep a proper cheek weld for use with CQB scopes; maneuvering around corners; operating from inside a vehicle (the SCAR’s folding stock really helps with this one); the various shooting positions, from stand up to full prone / side shooting; footwork for moving and clearing; an area; basic strategies for cover and camouflage.
Yes, but that is a 20 Ga. Not at all recommended for anything but dove hunting!
Keep your guns clean. They’ll be reliable for a lifetime.
Unreliable is very bad in a firearm.
Here’s mine. Note the 3 1/2″ frame (Express Mag) but the 20″ bbl on it now only chambers 3″ shells.
I still haven’t yet drilled out and installed the magazine extension tube. Sigh.
but my dad’s 20 ga was the one i liked because it was lighter. Plus recoil not as bad. It might only be good for dove hunting, but for what I need it for I’m guessing it will do the job well enough.
Bought this for my daughter. What I call a ‘belly gun’, like derringers of old. Stick it in an assailant’s belly and pull the trigger.
that’s a very nice shotgun but long. I couldn’t get the end of that thing up off the floor and pointed in the right direction in a hurry. I’m getting a shorter 20 ga. I’ll move up to a 12 ga if/when I get better
i like that pink ruger. a lot.
you gun folks a question:
i have an auto that doesn’t need a tune up in the 1st 60,000 miles. you need to clean the machine every time you use it? and if you don’t it doesn’t work properly?
nr, your auto isn’t like my autos. When things burn in your auto, the burned things are whisked away by pressurized oil that runs through a filter. In mine, there’s no oil until I take a break and scrub.
There are guns that can go notoriously dirty and still function…the AK-47’s are famous for the amount of punishment they’ll take and keep on running. Many of the early AR’s were dinged for being, well, pussies when they got dirty.
One neighbor is married to the cop. She’s seen weapons. The problem is, somebody other than her husband has some. Evidently that upsets her notion of the proper balance of neighborhood power.
Nr, no, you don’t need to clean it that much. But being anal about it isn’t a bad thing. Better too much than not enough, establish good habits, etc…
There is nothing wrong with using a 20 gauge for defense, especially if you’re recoil shy. A buckshot shell won’t hold as much buckshot as one for a 12 gauge is all. Any gun you have and are comfortable using is likely better than a gun you don’t have or are afraid to use.
M-1 Carbine.
Compact malefactor countermeasure.
So he’s the sort where the badge and gun adds 3 inches of dick and 6 inches of height. That’s a toxic cop. If you can’t crush him, you need to avoid him.
I hate those people. They owe me a shitload of money I’ll never see.
I’ve been testing out a lot of +p and +p+ ammo in the FNP-TAC. That stuff burns very hot. Leaves a nice film all over the gun, the mags, and most importantly, the Trijicon RMR sighting window. So I like to keep it cleaned and oiled.
Also, last time I shot I took apart the Taurus and realized it still had all the grease on it I’d used, so it didn’t need cleaning. The FNP, on the other hand, got a quick clean and a re-oil on a couple of specific points, as recommended in the manual.
It’s not like I’m breaking out cleaning rods and chamber brushes and the like. Mostly, I bore snake the barrel, scrub the carbon off the cartridge feeder lip with a GI brush, wipe off the slide, clean the glass on the RMR or the streamlight, then oil the contact points. It takes me maybe 5-10 minutes per weapon.
Ahhhh…let me tell you about my M-1 Carbine! a gen-u-ine WWII combat veteran, saw service in France and Germany. I know it’s history…my grandfather’s carry gun.
He brought it home with him, with blood still on the sling, from where his fingertip was shot off.
Yup. He’s that kind.
I’ve tried avoiding him. Didn’t speak to him for two years. Then, after being invited over for a “truce” that ended badly because of his new friend across the street, I didn’t talk to him again for another year.
The problem is, his wife and friends and he can’t have their authority questioned. This is their neighborhood, and my family is not playing by their rules. So they need to teach me a lesson. For the good of the collective.
People like that drive me nuts. I have plenty to keep me busy in my own life, I have zero need to worry about what anyone else is doing.
The problem is, somebody other than her husband has some. Evidently that upsets her notion of the proper balance of neighborhood power.
She sounds like a right bitch. A regular Mrs. Kravitz.
Oh, it’s an orchestrated effort.
They seem fascinated by my porch and my driveway. Can’t take their eyes off them. First, the problem was the temerity I showed wearing a weight vest for my walks / runs. Who was I to be wearing such a thing? Then, it was how “weird” I am for doing deadlifts or sandbags carries and farmer’s walks or swinging Indian clubs in my own driveway. Plus, all the strange grip equipment.
They just can’t understand it! Everyone should be fat and out of shape and content to just live their lives as such, in a community of people content to be fat and out of shape. Who was I to be working out in the heat, getting in great shape, all while ignoring them. Who was I? How dare me! It’s like I’m rubbing their faces in it.
I need to be stopped. I’m the Devil.
Gunpowder residue is very corrosive to metal. The cleaner you keep your gun, the longer you will fire reliably and accurately.
Maybe I’m anal, but if I fire one round (yeah, right)I completely clean the gun before I quit worrying about it. I’ve got a rifle I’ve shot a million (approx.) rounds through over 40 years, and it’s as accurate as ever. My dad has a couple 60 years old you can drive nails with.
Course I also have a ’94 Dodge Ram with 330,000 miles on it that runs like a top, too. ‘Cuz of I take care of it.
These days we live in a disposable society, so YMMV.
I’ve said it before, Lee, but I drive a 93 Land Cruiser and a 94 Jeep Wrangler Sahara. So I hears ya’.
My SCAR 17 is a battle rifle that I’ve got nice and greased. I’ll clean the bore when I shoot it, but other than that I probably won’t give it a detail clean every time. The FNP-45 is in that break-in stage. I’ve now put maybe 400 rounds through it, so I’m starting to know it pretty well. It’s a very nice, very expensive pistol, so I take extra good care to keep it clean and happy.
Holy mackeral. How much are you spending on ammo? A box of 50 rounds for my .380 is around $30 for defensive ammo here.
There are of course variables depending on how often you shoot. I mean, if you’re shooting daily I can see doing a complete breakdown less. My experience has usually been more sporadic, so If I don’t know when I’m going to shoot again I want to make sure it’s good for an extended storage.
My main point is inarguable though. The cleaner you keep your gun, the longer it will put lead on target.
I buy in bulk, leigh. For plinking ammo I can get a thousand rounds for about $320 or so in 45 ACP. For the good defensive stuff I also buy in bulk and then stockpile it. That’s more expensive, often up to about 60-70 cents per round. I don’t shoot it all too often, maybe oen mag every other time I’m at the range just to get used to the recoil and placement, etc, mostly because some of those rounds use a lighter grain, or shoot much hotter.
Were it me, I’d have made some glass
JeffG 2012
…you have my vote.
The experiences you relate with the local cop thug — including the psych profile of this neighborhood of nitwits — tends to open the door for a mistrust of authority, JG.
Lawn order Republicans shall not approve. No, they shall not approve.
Say what? How is threatening you with undue lethal force not assault?
Well, of course! People who do that shit belong in prison. Why on earth would anyone be doing that if he didn’t belong in prison?
“Gunpowder residue is very corrosive to metal.”
Modern rounds in modern weapons? No. Especially anything designed for field/combat use. If corrosion was that much of a problem they’d never make it out of product development and testing. Yes every soldier is trained to clean his weapons at every opportunity, but the main issue is not corrosion, it’s the physical buildup of combustion residue that can impede functionality.
If it is your go to PDW then by all means keep it spotless, but anything else you can run it until it loses functionality. In a rifle punching paper this might be bigger groups after 20 or 30 rounds, in an auto pistol it might be failure to go into battery, or misfires from weak pin strikes after 20 boxes of rounds. Revolvers, because the powder tends to burn dirty get messy fast, but a quick external wipe down can fix that before you’ve left the range, after that the main problems are leading in the barrel or cylinder gap.
Old or foreign ammo with corrosive primers? You betcha. But the catch with corrosive primers is that they leave salt deposits, mainly potassium, which is as corrosive as it gets. The catch is that the only reliable way to remove salts is to use something with water and/or ammonia solution in it. Hoppe’s #9 counts, as do others like Butch’s Bore Shine, but many of the newer high tech products are pure hydrocarbons and will not remove dried salt residue.
Plus P rounds generally mean more powder, so even with complete combustion they still mean more residue. Where it gets even worse is that with P+ sometimes the projectile has left the barrel before all the powder has burned. This gives a two fold problem, one is that all the remaining powder burns up right in front of the muzzle – giving a much bigger muzzle flash, but also because this combustion is not under pressure it is neither clean not complete (‘smokeless’ powders only smoke less when under high pressure, otherwise they burn slower and more dirty.) That’s why Jeff is seeing all that extra residue on the pistol. The good news is that the stuff is really just soot, and usually wipes away fairly easily.