I’m with Patterico, et al., on this.
Me. With Patrick Frey. In 2012.
Curse those perspicacious Mayans.
Here’s the thing: People who haven’t experienced it tend to downplay online harassment — and often fail to recognize how it spills over into the real world. Those who’ve experienced it will react in different ways, and use different methods to combat it (some you may agree with, some you may not: hi, anti-semitic space-titty scribbler Marc Elliott L’Hommedieu!).
But until you’ve lived it, and until you’ve seen how it affects your family, you should probably just defer to those who have.
I emailed Patrick to let him know I’ve got his back on this (whether he cares or not), and that anything I can do to help I will. That the mainstream press isn’t covering legal and (potentially) physical harassment by a cabal of progressive bloggers, Democrat activists, and a “philanthropist” convicted for a string of bombings, is outrageous — and is further proof that we are entering that stage of society where the left’s inherent anti-foundationalist ideology is allowing them to justify the totalitarianism they wish to see us all suffer under.
— Though of course, they think of it more as a kind of leftist Utopia they’re doing us the favor of forcing us to enjoy.
One man’s terrorist being another man’s freedom fighter, and so forth.
that is very nice Mr. Jeff, and stalwart
nicely said
I’ve only experienced an online friend suddenly becoming irrational and aggressive against a group of us, and even though she did nothing in the meatworld to harm us, we were plenty shook up nonetheless.
Might want to add S.E. Cupp to your list of conservatives to stand behind.
This is why I don’t use my real name online: not so that I can behave like a jackass without it redounding to my real life, but because I know who the Left is and what they do.
A lot of guys would have written to Patsy asking if he’s finally learned to tell the difference between a bit of snark and an actual death threat at this point. It redounds to your credit that you are not a lot of guys. (Obviously, you’re a better man than I.)
I prefer to think of it as, “Oh, the Patrick Frey, Esq., that we all know and laugh at behind his back is on the right side of something? If it were merely a matter of opinion I would have to re-examine where I stand — but since it isn’t, I don’t suppose it’ll hurt my reputation any to tolerate having him onboard.”
But that’s just me.
If a psychopath goes after Markos Moulitsas Zúñiga the way Kimberlin goes after people, you stand behind Kos.
No brainer. Nobody deserves to be in the crosshairs of someone like Kimberlin. People like that need to be put down like the rabid dogs they are.
Re: S. E. Cupp
Larry Flynnt stikes again.
Which ought to serve as a reminder that the Left engaged in these kind of tactic long before Al Gore dreamed up the intenet.
This Kimberlin is a criminal, a dangerous criminal, and should be dealt with as such.
The focus should be on exposing Kimberlin for what he is and ending his abuse of the system.
And also educating people about Kimberlin’s financial backers.
Squid, that’s the first thing I thought of too. :)
How about the more subtle form of online backchannel whisper campaigns to destroy a blogger’s livelihood/credibility? That’s really fucking douche too, isn’t it?
Hi, Patrick!
The fact that societal colostomy bags like Kimberlin don’t turn up mysteriously dead sort of puts the whole myth of a right-wing conspiracy to murder their opponents to rest, doesn’t it? Or is there just no way to do a murder and get away with it?
Not counting OJ, I mean.
If a psychopath goes after Markos Moulitsas Zúñiga the way Kimberlin goes after people, you stand behind Kos.
I would consider that justice served, at least partially.
Yeah, sometimes it’s like when Iraq and Iran went to war; you find yourself hoping that they both lose somehow.
These so-called “liberals” are the real fascists these days. Bastards, every one of them.
Progressive tolerance, ProgTol for short, is not for everybody as it debilitates or worse, anyone with a conscience or morals or both….
Agreed.
That way while the psycho is busy with Kos you can line up your shot, right?
Right?
I kid, I kid.
Sure there is. Kimberlin did it.
Many murders go unsolved. If you kill someone you don’t know and who doesn’t know you, it’s pretty likely you won’t get caught without overt evidence.
You know what I meant.
speaking of unethical fascist trash Peter Fitzgerald is stepping down
why did I say peter I mean Patrick
so does that mean Holder gets to pick the replacement?
U.S. District Attorneys are appointed by the President. It’s customary to consult with the Senator(s) of the state affected however.
Beat me to it, Ernst. Obama won’t appoint anyone since he’s to busy trying to do damage control.
If past is precedent, New Prez will fire all of them anyway and appoint his own kind. Unless you’re Obama and you can’t be bothered.
“Re: S. E. Cupp
Larry Flynnt stikes again.
Which ought to serve as a reminder that the Left engaged in these kind of tactic long before Al Gore dreamed up the internet.”
A photoshop of Larry “Jabba no bodda” Flynt happily sucking off a cartoon Donkey with the Obama logo on it seems easy enough to do.
About that whole S.E. Cupp & Hustler thing again:
Has anybody yet thought to ask Amanda Marcotte if that would be an example of slut-shaming and why or why not?
Excellent! I’d like to see her head spin.
I’d certainly like to hear Amanda explain how this is the church’s fault and how this is not a product of free will because there is none.
I’m pretty sure Amanda’s in the middle of a conference call sponsored by NOW, where they try to come up with a defensible way of defending the indefensible.
I’m betting that the cognitive dissonance kicks in pretty hard, and they all decide to go with “no comment.”
Michelle Bachmann eating a corn dog at a state fair or Rick Perry eating a corn dog in front of a photoshopped mural of Adam’s crotch wasn’t enough. The audience needed MORE. And Larry Flynt was the guy to give it to ’em!
She could conference call with Maureen Dowd who has a whole column about teh Patriarchies! in the Catholic Church and what bigoty bigots the Bishops are, in which she outs her own mom and dad for using condoms when doing the horizontal bop.
A conference call to come up with a way of saying the bitch was asking for it without saying “the bitch was asking for it”? Now that would be a hoot.
Why do I get the feeling Kimberlin’s internal monolog is like Ted Rall’s?
That or Ted Kaczinsky’s.
@happyfeet: Could it be a Freudian slip when you mean “Patrick” but say “Peter”?
S.E. Cupp was not available for comment.
(Sorry! That was horrible.)
Someone should do a video with a Paul Ryan lookalike pushing a Larry Flynt look alike off a cliff.
@leigh: The Rall monolog was awesome! I’m hoping Iowahawk does a Kimberlin version. That would be the black hole of awesomeness. I mean, it would be so awesomely intriguing that its escape velocity would exceed the speed of light.
Can all waiters in the MD, WV, PA, NY area get together and agree to either: spit a big hocker on Kimberlein’s sandwich, jack off in his soup, wipe ass with salad leaves, cowboy-sneeze in his drink, pee in his salsa etc. etc.?
That’s power.
@ palaeomerus: While Flynt fellates a Clydesdale.
For some reason, I find myself imagining Flynt on the receiving end (as it were) of the SNL Trebeck/Connery skit.
This Kimberlin fellow so reminds of young Bill Ayers. A full professorship in, what, 8 years?
Peter Fitzgerald was another Illinois politician person I think
Yeah. Right.
Heh.
i have to clean my juicer now
“Eleven years is a very long time in a very high-pressure job,” said Peter Fitzgerald, a former U.S. senator, no relation, who recruited Patrick Fitzgerald to the post and spoke to him about his decision. “I think it’s really hard … to divide responsibilities between family and job. I think he just felt it was time and also thought the office would benefit from new blood.”
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iIP8I3H29LGwylzJl_z4tUW5nC5A?docId=8c004d9d15de40209b81f125c9151bf2
Heh. Alppucino, I see you have either been a waiter or a cook at some time in your former life. Why people think it’s no thing to screw with the people who are handling your food has always been a mystery to me. I’ve seen a lot of steaks get dropped on the floor.
“The fact that societal colostomy bags like Kimberlin don’t turn up mysteriously dead sort of puts the whole myth of a right-wing conspiracy to murder their opponents to rest, doesn’t it? ”
scooter, I made that point exactly to another one of Jeff’s trolls, a college prof (SEK? Willie the flute player? they blur after a while) who had no problems coming onto a blog he described as a hangout of vicious violent psychos even though we knew where he worked and within a 25 mile radius lived. If he actually believed his own BS he would never have done it.
Unibomber brings the funny:
link
I don’t think BK is ging to seem as useful as he once did.
He has no particular attachment to ideology really, but like any con man, he knows what sells in what quarter.
And nice post, Jeff.
Actually leigh, I’ve never been a waiter.
I just have an over-active imagination, so I over-tip and I never complain.
Cleaning my juicer as we sp-sp-sp-sp-spunk.
*speak*
Someone is going to get killed one of these days. I only hope that when and if they do, there is a red thread–clear and unambiguous–linking it to what Rauhauser or Amanda Marcotte wrote. Not that words lead to incitement in a provable sense, but just so we can lay it out there, starkly.
get people killed is more of a facebook thing
*getting*
I just have an over-active imagination, so I over-tip and I never complain.
A wise strategy, alp. Waiters and cooks are vindictive bastards.
Anyone who would mess with someone else’s food is a whiny bitch who should be beaten senseless. There is no excuse for it at all.
I haven’t posted here or at Pat’s since The War, but I posted there and I’m posting here to let you know I’ve got *your* backs, for whatever little that’s worth.
These are not the first mad bombers, harassers, lawfarers and villains from the left, and they won’t be the last – and sure as blazes won’t be the last if they don’t get shut down, and the people who pay them don’t get publicly shamed into stopping.
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