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“Evidence: Trayvon Had Bruised Knuckles, Zimmerman Broken Nose”

No justice, no peace!

The medical report from George Zimmerman’s family doctor after the Trayvon Martin shooting shows that Zimmerman’s nose was broken; he also had a pair of black eyes, two lacerations on the back of his head, a bruised upper lip, and a back injury. He was examined by the doctor the day after the shooting. The three-page medical report will likely be used as evidence for the defense.

Meanwhile, the Trayvon Martin autopsy shows that other than his gunshot wound, the only injury on Martin was that the skin on his knuckles was broken. Combined with the evidence from Zimmerman’s medical report, the logical conclusion is that Martin was beating up Zimmerman severely before Zimmerman shot him.

Naturally, there’ll be quite a bit of triumphalism on the right side of the blogosphere.

But remember: it was Republican state officials who caved to the race pimps and brought in special investigators; and it is Republican state officials who charged Zimmerman with second degree murder — despite findings by local law enforcement that no such charges, let alone even manslaughter charges, were merited by the evidence.

And that’s because, as the Derbyshire and other incidents have shown us, Republican officials (and their contemporary GOP apparatus) are terrified of being tarred with the “racist” brush, and will climb over each other to avoid the charges.

Meaning, the GOP has already lost the “race” debate — and so the identity politics wars — and they don’t even realize it.

Is there really any wonder that the Democrats are teaching their operatives how to use race as a weapon, with the explicit acknowledgment that the only thing that really matters is that the charge of racism appear plausible — regardless of what the intent of may or may not have been, and regardless of whether the speaker him/herself is racist?

That question was rhetorical, by the way. Not a call for a reader poll.

(thanks to nr)

101 Replies to ““Evidence: Trayvon Had Bruised Knuckles, Zimmerman Broken Nose””

  1. sdferr says:

    And Trayvon’s busted knuckles at autopsy. Ooopsie.

  2. StrangernFiction says:

    With friends like these………

  3. The Monster says:

    By caving in to the threat of being labeled “raaaaacist”, we only encourage such Garofaloid techniques.

    We need to adopt this simple rule: The moment anyone throws out the “racist/sexist/homophobic” charge en passant (as in “those racist teabaggers”), you interrupt them. You say “you are not allowed to call someone that name until you’ve proven they deserve it. Back it up or take it back.”

    They will undoubtedly respond by saying you’re uncouth to interrupt them. You say “calling someone that name without evidence to back it up is so far beyond ‘rude’ or ‘uncouth’ it isn’t even funny. I don’t expect a black person not to interrupt if someone throws out the n-word, so don’t expect me to sit here and silently assent to your use of the epithet “racist”. Now, back it up or take it back.”

    blah blah systemic blah societal blah blah

    “Back it up or take it back!”

    blah blah

    “Either you come up with something ____ has done that warrants calling him a ___ist, or you withdraw the accusation!”

    blah blah

    “Back.
    It.
    Up.
    Or.
    Take.
    It.
    Back.”

    Refuse to continue the conversation until they either prove the term applies or they admit they overshot. Let them know that these words do not win their arguments; they only cause the conversation to end until they… (say it with me now)…
    Back it up or take it back.

  4. Patrick Chester says:

    “That racist Zimmerman broke poor Trayvon’s knuckles with his nose!!!!!”

    (My prediction of the prog spin on this.)

  5. Alec Leamas says:

    Doesn’t prove nuthin. Tray could have broke up his knuckles whoopin up on some other Honkeyspanic.

  6. bh says:

    I’d rather admit that I was surfing for gay midget porn but a Deadspin piece led me over to Gawker and I found this:

    Rape is a topic so sensitive that its mere invocation as imagery or a metaphor is enough to elicit perturbed responses. The backlash can feel like a demand that one group’s holy ground be adopted by everyone, but that group ultimately comes from the pragmatic belief that rape, which often goes unreported and/or ignored, isn’t being taken seriously enough as it is. Joking about it, then, can only damage the already fragile discourse. It’s hard to argue with anyone who treats rape as an untouchable topic. If a person feels this way, he or she probably has a good reason, and that reason gives him or her more entitlement to the issue than someone who doesn’t. And, really, abuse is everyone’s problem.

    Likewise, if you’ve never been black blah, blah, blah.

  7. JHoward says:

    the only thing that really matters is that the charge of racism appear plausible

    Which leads to the US DOJ itself pursuing hate crime prosecution against Zimmerman.

    Folks put in hospitals by black-on-white violence have yet to be called on by the DO Justice.

  8. mc4ever59 says:

    Alec, although you phrase it humorously, you are 100% accurate. There is no reasoning with these people. There is no intelligent discourse, no logic or reason, no facts or laws that even exist, much less matter to them, outside of that which supports their belief system and agenda. God himself could stand before them with irrefutable evidence in his hands, and it would only make them pissier, stamp their feet harder in anger, and harden their minds further.
    It is past time to cease trying to convince them of anything, and to stop giving a damn what they think and say. It is time that lines are drawn, and that enough has finally become enough.
    As Jumpin’ Joe Biden said; “Gird your loins”.

  9. happyfeet says:

    Attorney General Barbie in Florida owes Mr. Zimmerman an abject fucking apology I think

  10. EBL says:

    Hence the reason the FBI is thinking about charging Zimmerman with a hate crime. He might win this state court thing and they can’t have that.

  11. B Moe says:

    Does J. Edgar Hoover have a bio page Obama can update?

  12. mc4ever59 says:

    Gay midget porn, bh?
    Thank you in advance for the psychological scars forming in my mind, and for all the nights to come that I’ll wake up screaming at 3 am.

  13. leigh says:

    Folks put in hospitals by black-on-white violence have yet to be called on by the DO Justice.

    That’s because it’s the DO Just Us. Racist.

  14. newrouter says:

    Not a call for a reader poll.

    how about this reader poll: the armadillo interviews baracky; yes or no?

  15. happyfeet says:

    One morning, when George Zimmerman woke from troubled dreams, he found himself transformed in his bed into a horrible vermin.

  16. newrouter says:

    Someone must have been telling lies about Josef K., he knew he had done nothing wrong but, one morning, he was arrested.

    http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/7849/pg7849.html

  17. JHoward says:

    and harden their minds

    A more precise definition of that biblical term surely does not exist than in contexts like the present one.

  18. happyfeet says:

    nicely played Mr. newrouter

  19. JHoward says:

    Attorney General Barbie in Florida owes Mr. Zimmerman an abject fucking apology I think

    AG Barbie’s political days are as numbered as Barry’s are. People don’t much cotton to outright madness in office.

  20. JHoward says:

    I can’t wait for the next DC Insider or whatever that dude calls himself. Barry’s about to go all Howard Hughes here.

  21. leigh says:

    “George’s head was split…you must acquit!”

  22. bh says:

    Highly OT: I was looking to replace my copy of Wisconsin Death Trip and came across a documentary version of same on youtube.

    The book is basically a series of real newspaper clippings from the late 1800s along with crazy black and white photos. The documentary version isn’t half bad. My favorite, Mary Sweeney, gets high on cocaine and smashes window.

    It’s not particularly light fare but it does make you wonder if we only think things are going to hell when really it’s never been anything different.

  23. leigh says:

    You should watch “the Wonderful Whites of West Virginia” bh. The whole family, except for the grandma, is whack. One of the daughters has a baby and is shown snorting meth off her bedside table while the newborn slumbles in the bassinet next to her.

    The worst part is, they’re a real family.

  24. bh says:

    I’ve seen that, leigh. Great documentary.

  25. leigh says:

    slumbers, that should be

  26. leigh says:

    Isn’t it awesome? My son and I are always saying to each other at the drive-thru “Do ya’ll have fajitas?” “I want me some macaroni and cheese” etc.

  27. newrouter says:

    You should watch “the Wonderful Whites of West Virginia” bh

    how about” the hoes of the negro/hispanic/asian/muslim ghettos”?

  28. bh says:

    Here’s a fun fact you might not know. Johnny Knoxville, the guy from Jackass, got that movie made.

  29. bh says:

    White is the family’s last name, nr.

  30. leigh says:

    Johnny Knoxville, the guy from Jackass, got that movie made.

    I didn’t know that. Pretty cool. I love that movie.

  31. newrouter says:

    Palin’s Golden Endorsement Touch

    By Dustin Hawkins, About.com GuideMay 15, 2012

    Update 11:15PM est: Deb Fischer is starting to pull away in the senate primary race in Nebraska. AG Bruning, the establishment pick, was expected to walk away with this race as little as two weeks ago. It’s Fischer 40.2% to 36% for Bruning.

    link

  32. leigh says:

    They just called it for her, nr.

  33. Matt says:

    There’s a link on Drudge this morning indicating the FBI is going to charge Zimmerman with a “hate crime”- grounds are that he profiled and stalked Martin. Never let the actual facts get in the way of a good politically and race hustler lynching. I see Holder’s racist fingers all over this one.

    So now if we see somebody suspicious in our neighborhood and they happy to be black and we follow them, its hate based stalking?

  34. […] William Jacobson explains, “Broken nose, broken narrative.” More at Protein Wisdom. […]

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  36. palaeomerus says:

    “There’s a link on Drudge this morning indicating the FBI is going to charge Zimmerman with a “hate crime”- grounds are that he profiled and stalked Martin. Never let the actual facts get in the way of a good politically and race hustler lynching. I see Holder’s racist fingers all over this one.
    So now if we see somebody suspicious in our neighborhood and they happy to be black and we follow them, its hate based stalking?”

    Google “Richard Jewel” sometime. The FBI has quite a few creeps on board and always has.

  37. palaeomerus says:

    “and they happy to be black ”

    I love auto-correct too.

  38. Ernst Schreiber says:

    [R]emember: it was Republican state officials who caved to the race pimps and brought in special investigators; and it is Republican state officials who charged Zimmerman with second degree murder — despite findings by local law enforcement that no such charges, let alone even manslaughter charges, were merited by the evidence.

    I’ve been thinking about this, and I think we have to add a few facts to the context here. The first fact is that local law enforcement was divided. The police recommended that charges be brought, and the local DA declined, perhaps because the evidence didn’t merit charges, perhaps because he didn’t believe there wasn’t enough evidence to win a conviction. The second fact is that local officials (and I have no idea if they’re Republican or Democrat) more or less forced the state’s hand when, in the face of the race hustler agitated mob, they started acting like local law enforcement had done something shameful instead of defending the decision and telling the agitators to pound sand.

    None of that affects Jeff’s larger point about Republicans fecklessly shirking responsibility because they’re too cowardly to stand up to the racialist mob. But in this case, the problem doesn’t start with the Governor or the Attorney General. The problem starts with Sanford officials, who created the mess in the first place. After that, I’d say most of the responsibility is with the special prosecutor, who could have, and probably should have, given that what we knew before hasn’t been altered by what we know now, confirmed the original decision not to charge.

  39. mc4ever59 says:

    Doing the right things for the right reasons prevents a lot of mess.
    Something I’d bet the Sanford officials now deeply regret not doing when they had the chance.

  40. Ernst Schreiber says:

    For an elected official, protecting your political viability is the right thing to do, regardless of the mess it makes. Or so it would seem.

  41. sdferr says:

    I’m not entirely certain Ernst, but I think the local official who drove the decision to decouple from the police chief (and as such, the integrity of the force beneath him) isn’t an elected official, but city manager type, who then succeeded in attaining the backing of the elected city council (which I think was by bare majority).

  42. leigh says:

    He is a city manager, sdferr. And, one who caused a great deal of division in the town in Kansas that he formerly managed. Charges of racism! were thrown around by him and am not! by the city counsel members before he beat it for warmer climes in Florida more in keeping with the bandying about of charges of racism! whenever the police and the DAs are making judgement calls not to his liking.

  43. mc4ever59 says:

    So this ‘city manager’ gets paid by the locals tax dollars to work for them- I presume. But he’s not elected?
    Fire his ass.
    Next.

  44. sdferr says:

    The city manager organization is a progressive political system (rule of the “experts”) instituted in many local governments around the country, often, though not always, without the knowledge or understanding of the local people who happen to fall under its rule.

  45. mc4ever59 says:

    Shh, I knew there had to be ‘experts’ involved.
    In a country brimming with so many ‘experts’, why are so many things so screwed up?
    “Without the knowledge or understanding of the local people”.
    What? Sorry, no sale, and no pity. It’s the duty of the ‘locals’ to know what the hell is going on, and to keep informed. They do have town council meetings and such, don’t they?
    This is how those who are supposed to be the rulers become the ruled. And they pay ass clowns like this travelling headache of a ‘city manager’ for the privilege of being screwed by him.

  46. sdferr says:

    Even supposing a “duty” won’t make it a fact “to know what the hell is going on”. And people: particularly uneducated or poorly-educated or ignorant or lazy or careless or corrupt people are present in abundance. So, how would this situation best be repaired?

  47. mc4ever59 says:

    By enough people taking the small amount of time it takes to be informed and participate. Their refusal to do so does not make it any less their duty, or absolve them of blame for the consequences. If they don’t want to be bothered, then when the riots come to Sanford- or any other such place- and they are the ones stuck with the bill, both financial and in human and property costs, then they should just STFU and bend over.

  48. sdferr says:

    Barking at them won’t cure their problem. Yes, sure, we expect they’ll suffer the adverse consequences of their previous poor choices; and so will we all, to the extent that such problems cause avalanches that roll down to embroil others, such as we expect will come from the defaults in Ca. or Illinois, for example. But the question will still remain, both for them and for us. How will we best repair this terrible situation?

  49. mc4ever59 says:

    We won’t be repairing it. The issue of ‘turning things around’ has already been decided. The issue is now- and the focus should be on- how to survive what is coming, while hopefully being able to save some of this country’s greatness and apply it towards building a “what comes next” that is in line with our original intent and goals under the constitution.
    I don’t give a tinker’s damn about the vast majority of the people. They are, through their laziness, gutlessness and stupidity, the enablers of our destruction. They are a far greater danger than all the world’s Obama’s, Holder’s and such, because the Obama’s and company can’t do it without them.
    When somebody gives me the shrug and says “what can we do?”- which should be the replacement motto for “don’t tread on me”- I tell them “die. You can die, and then, with the dead weight of you off of us, maybe the rest of us who give a damn can actually get something done.”

  50. sdferr says:

    . . . while hopefully being able to save some of this country’s greatness and apply it towards building a “what comes next” that is in line with our original intent and goals under the constitution.

    What is this?

    Do you have in mind some form of political persuasion which will bring along a sufficiently powerful majority with which to “save” or “build” some vague structure conforming to “original intent” and “goals” under the old Constitution (your posited “what comes next”)? But how will the nation arrive at this political persuasion, if nothing is to be done to establish the grounds upon which it would act, assuming persuasion — and not simple killing (“die”) — is what you have in mind? “Die”, I take it, isn’t necessarily a coercive thing, at least insofar as everyone dies eventually. But waiting for the natural death of one or two generations is a very long term proposition, during which new generations are coming along to be equally poorly educated, miseducated, corrupted and the like, and during which all manner of untoward events can take place, each potentially to the detriment of the polity you seem to wish to “save”.

  51. leigh says:

    mc4ever59, down boy. It’ll be okay. Remember back when they were teaching us American History in high school and we heard about all the brave, brave patriots? Well, it was the same thing back then. About a third of the populace was down with beating the tar out of the British, about a third were loyal to the Crown and about a third couldn’t be bothered to look up from their tankards or their plowshares.

    As is often said on this here board: We are fucked. The best thing to do is prepare to protect your own and let the chips fall where they may for those who do not.

  52. happyfeet says:

    we are probably fucked but maybe not

    we have many oils to drill and many regulations to cut and an EPA to stand up against the wall

    we have a fettered capital market what can be defettered and a lot of people hunkered down what can be dehunkered

    we have asinine third world tax policies what can be reformed to encourage investment and we have a huge backlog of potential trade deals that the rapist in chief has neglected

  53. mc4ever59 says:

    What you suggest we find a way to save is already dead and gone. Everything around you is an illusion. Looks good enough, like a Hollywood set. But like a Hollywood set, when you look behind it, there’s nothing but 4×8’s propping up cardboard.
    What I have in mind is to face reality and prepare for it. Yourself,bh, Jeff and others here, by all means, continue what you do and fight the good fight. Something could happen to save our collective bacon, but it is unlikely. We no longer even have starting points to deal with many of the problems we face as a nation. We are playing under the ‘old rules’, and by and large, they no longer apply.
    The nation has already arrived at it’s political persuation, and it is anethema to what we hold dear. Where do you think all of this is going, and how do you think it will turn out?
    I have to step out for a 1/2 hour or so, sdferr, so don’t think I’m ignoring you if I don’t post right away.

  54. sdferr says:

    On economic terms, I think we have only to look at the (incorrect) dire predictions made at the time WWII was ending, worrying about the flood of servicemen returning to the job market, and then, surprise!, a long period of great growth and innovation once the shackles placed on the economy by the Democrat Roosevelt administration had been removed and people were free to follow their interests unencumbered by government set price and wage controls.

    But that’s mere economic thinking, which, from my point of view, is an unfortunately and misplaced yet dominate subset of political thinking as a whole. That is, political thinking as another proposition altogether. But it’s admittedly hard ground, made all the moreso by our own ignorance and lack of experience.

  55. sdferr says:

    unfortunately

  56. happyfeet says:

    politically were screwed the best we can hope for is the statist Team R weirdo wins

    I haven’t heard a peep about dismissing beohnerfag and mcconellwhore

    for some reason you never hear tell of an upward spiral really

  57. sdferr says:

    Maybe tales of upward spirals (and especially future-tied such tales) are held in abeyance in part from the intent in Mr. Locke’s aphorism, expect the worst and when something better happens — bonus? Or maybe more like that other one, “under-promise, over-deliver”? But if, in either case, it isn’t necessarily a bad thing. It’s enough to have some inkling of the historical occurrences, I reckon.

  58. happyfeet says:

    yes but take the word inexorable… the historical occurrences inkle far more about things what get inexorably worse than about things what get inexorably better

    Americans prize freedom inexorably less with the waxing and waning of the moon

    a sorry lot of disabled food stamp whores, our countrymen are, inexorably, becoming

  59. sdferr says:

    But typists! Or, air conditionings!

    That is, aren’t we getting to be a helluva well chilled and typist nation, even if only with our opposable thumbs?

  60. happyfeet says:

    air conditionings are not sustainable is my understanding

    I heard it on National Soros Radio

  61. sdferr says:

    Strange that science would be so unkind as to let us down with unsustainability thataway. We should upbraid. Oh, and maybe lose the SorosRadio to save a buck or two.

  62. happyfeet says:

    yes the National Soros Radio is not sustainable either

    too bad so sad

  63. mc4ever59 says:

    I’m back! And I’ve brought enough sunshine and cyanide for everyone!
    Seriously, sorry for sucking all the air and oxygen out of the room with my rant. Sdferr and others, please do not think any of it was aimed at you personally, or even your comments.
    But tell me inyour heart of hearts if you think I’m wrong, or just nuts. And what I ‘ranted on’oesn’t even scratch the surface or put a dent in what we face.

  64. RI Red says:

    mc4, I’m certainly discouraged about the downward trending of all of the indicators I see. But, just so I bother to get out bed in the morning, I daily try to rouse a few of the rabble who will make up the one-third referred to by leigh above.
    And I keep an account active at Cabela’s. You know, for camping gear and stuff.

  65. sdferr says:

    “sdferr and others, please do not think any of it was aimed at you personally, or even your comments.”

    Oh no, I didn’t.

    “But tell me in your heart of hearts if you think I’m wrong, or just nuts. ”

    But yes, I do think you’re wrong, at least to this extent: that I think you too, with anyone and everyone else, should be thinking through the problems with a view to fixing, or repairing, or preventing, or however you’d like to characterize the means to see a better nation result.

    Which, I don’t say is an easy thing at all. Quite the contrary, perhaps the most difficult thing we’ll ever be required to think about. Still, just as with your own view of the citizens of Sanford, so it stands with me: that I believe we’ve no choice but to think through these things with a view to making them better, even if our efforts are individually inconsequential, or apparently so. And to put my own twist on the particular: it’s a question of education. (This, I think I learned from Aristotle.)

  66. BT says:

    City Managers really aren’t the problem. The problem is the federalization of state, county and local governments. The problem is that each step up the food chain additional layers of regulations and best practice procedures are mandated down to the local level. And understanding and implementing those polices, regulations and practices, in addition to the various ordinances passed by a fractious council and a recalcitrant mayor, is a full time job. Not only is it a full time job executing the “will of the people” it is a full time job deciphering what the “will of the people” is.

    The City Manager serves at the will of Council and the Mayor, but they usually aren’t fired on a whim because then the Mayor and Council will have to fill the void while a replacement is found. And that can turn out to be very costly to the taxpayers if forms aren’t filed, grant administration dots the i’s and crosses the t’s, and all the lower level managers aren’t at their best.

    This is the organization chart for Sanford. Their City Manager has a lot of responsibility.

  67. Blake says:

    When the dust settles after the collapse of the US and the few surviving progressives cry out, “Why didn’t anyone tell us this would happen,” I hope someone is there to reply, “We did warn you; you wouldn’t listen.”

    From that chamber, and from that mansion, I fled aghast. The storm was still abroad in all its wrath as I found myself crossing the old causeway. Suddenly there shot along the path a wild light, and I turned to see whence a gleam so unusual could have issued ; for the vast house and its shadows were alone behind me. The radiance was that of the full, setting, and blood-red moon, which now shone vividly through that once barely-discernible fissure, of which I have before spoken as extending from the roof of the building, in a zigzag direction, to the base. While I gazed, this fissure rapidly widened – there came a fierce breath of the whirlwind – the entire orb of the satellite burst at once upon my sight – my brain reeled as I saw the mighty walls rushing asunder – there was a long tumultuous shouting sound like the voice of a thousand waters – and the deep and dank tarn at my feet closed sullenly and silently over the fragments of the “House of Usher .”

    –from “The Fall of the House of Usher” by Edgar Allen Poe

    http://www.online-literature.com/poe/31/

  68. sdferr says:

    Just because it’s about the local, maybe this story falls into the interstices here somewhere, at least for informational purposes. No endorsement is intended or implied thereby.

  69. Blake says:

    ..and you thought you were in a dark place, mc4.

  70. BT says:

    Sdferr there is more of that going on than you think.

  71. mc4ever59 says:

    Sdferr, I know that I sometimes give the impression that I’m for giving up, but that isn’t my intent, nor do I advocate it for others. I guess that my ‘subtle as a falling safe’ style can sometimes do more harm than good, so please try to bear with me.
    As I said in an earlier post, by all means don’t quit, keep fighting the good fight. I like this site not only for the witty banter, but because people here ‘get it’. Many of you are actually getting your hands dirty to affect change. I try myself, such RIRed in trying to rouse the rabble. But I see where things are, and where , barring some sort of miracle, where they are going.
    Unfortunately, this isn’t 1941. We don’t have the luxury of time afforded us by an ocean barrier on each side. The oceans, the industrial capacity, all the advantages are squandered and gone, and I sometimes wonder if even God hasn’t grown tired enough to wash his hands of us.
    Give up? I can’t. Not in my DNA. Hope is good, but only tempered with realism. Too much hope becomes a cancer.
    I hope and care and try with the best of them, but at the end of the day, I am a stone cold realist. And I don’t see nearly enough in our most vital and important resource- our people- to believe that somehow, someway, everything will turn out okay again. “After all, we’re America!”. But I fear the magic is gone from that talisman, and for the first time in my life, I am afraid for my country. And I am afraid for my nieces and nephews, and that they will never have the chance to know the America that I knew and loved growing up.

  72. sdferr says:

    Heh. Could be BT, but then I wonder, how much of it do I think it’s going on? And then the sequel: if I’m not certain how much of it I think it’s going on, how did you find out how much I think it’s going on?

    Get out of my head!

  73. bh says:

    If you don’t mind my asking, what state do you live in, mc4ever59?

    Wisco used to be headed off a cliff and we’re turning that around. It’s hard to get this across to people but we were a blue state a few short years ago and we’ve long been a key incubator in shitty progressivism. That’s changing. With a great deal of effort. Continuous effort for years.

    Can the federal government be turned around? If it can, great. If it can’t, then it collapses and ceases to exert influence. I intend to keep working on my state and worry about Washington to the degree that we send representatives there.

  74. bh says:

    (Just to be clear here, I’m not reading you as saying you’re for giving up. My emphasis on effort above partially comes from the fact that we have to keep each others’ morale up around here because of the constant recall elections. But mainly it’s just to express how work actually seems to have an effect at the state level.)

  75. mc4ever59 says:

    bh, currently in Texas (Houston), but it isn’t home. I’m here to help out and watch over things for my youngest brother, who is having some health issues and currently can’t work because of them.
    Before that , Arizona for 31/2 years. I no longer consider there to be home, either.
    For the last year or two, I keep having ‘Montana’ cross my mind. We’ll see.

    Good God, I just typed a resume for a gypsy.

  76. mc4ever59 says:

    bh, your work at the local level is vital. If we have the time, and the opportunity to change things, it must start and grow at the local level.
    Hell, originally we weren’t even supposed to vote for president. Today everyone’s caught up in a dog and pony show for POTUS; a rigged game right down to who your ‘choices’ will be.

  77. bh says:

    There’s like a million people in Montana, I think. In a couple years you could run that place.

    Watch your ass, Max Baucus.

  78. mc4ever59 says:

    Heh. From what I hear, this isn’t a whole lot to run up there,bh. Which I imagine is a big part of the appeal. Have a girlfriend back in AZ from Montana, and know several other folks from there. They all swear by it.

  79. mc4ever59 says:

    there isn’t, not this isn’t. My sausage fingers, not designed for typing, are getting cranky.

  80. BT says:

    Sdferr Pardon my presumptiveness.

    When North Fulton County, north of Atlanta, broke up into various new cities, they outsourced to this company.
    Now some of the less labor intensive work is being brought in house, for less dollars than the outsourcing of that function.

  81. sdferr says:

    Heh, jes’ pullin’ your leg BT.

  82. leigh says:

    Mc4, Montana is certainly beautiful. They don’t call it Big Sky Country for nothing. That said, think long and hard about the snow. And the snow. And the snow. And ice. and wind. And snow. Unless you were living in Flagstaff, then nevermind.

  83. mc4ever59 says:

    I grew up in New Jersey, Leigh. But after 5 years of warmth and no snow in AZ and TX, it might once again be a challenge.
    And the bones haven’t gotten any younger since then.

  84. leigh says:

    I lived in PA for 8 years and swore I’d never live in the snowbelt again. The husband lived in Anchorage for about 10 years and laughs at the newbs moving from California to Colorado.

  85. RI Red says:

    mc4, I have a conversion project going on with one solitary individual of the liberal persuasion. Very smart kid – hell, I hired him. But indoctrinated in the bluest of blue states. When we are off the clock I’ll sometimes throw him a conservative idea and see what he says.
    I just sent him Mark Levin’s latest for his birthday. It may not take right away, but he’s going to see some inconsistencies in his world-view.
    Sometimes the one-on-one approach works. One of my best friends from law school has turned from the definition of a limousine liberal into an almost-conservative. Still thinks that I’m Atilla the Hun, but we have a lot in common to talk about now.

  86. leigh says:

    I’m out for a few hours. Duty calls.

  87. Squid says:

    I once read a travelogue where the writer said, “Montana actually looks like what Texans say Texas looks like.” Don’t know why, but that description has stayed with me ever since.

  88. Squid says:

    Sometimes the one-on-one approach works.

    I’ve got 3. I’m working on my 4th.

  89. mc4ever59 says:

    That’s great RIRed. Even one such experience makes up for dealing with 1000 of the “what can we do?” crowd.
    I can’t begin to fathom the people who can’t see past what Brian Williams told them on the news, as if there you go and that’s that.
    I don’t expect them to mimic me, or even agree with me on everything. But it is gratifying to write a quick list of websites to check out, and the next time I see them have them be all excited at the discoveries of new thoughts and worlds, kind of like Columbus must have been.

  90. bh says:

    I don’t know if I’ve ever converted anyone. Mainly I try to find the people you guys convert and make sure they show up on election day. I also have a distinct talent for recognizing when volunteers need pizza and beer to maintain their patriotic vigor.

    Together we form some sort of conservative Voltron.

  91. mc4ever59 says:

    Squid, my girlfriend from Montana back in Arizona went back to the old homeland for a wedding a few years ago. She comes back with a bunch of pictures, and I swear , the first 20 or so were pictures of wide open land. Some even had a small asphalt road winding through them, but most of the photos were of endless nothingness.
    I asked her, “Uh, you do have houses and things up there, right?”
    She replied, “Yeah, dumb ass. Plumbing and everything. It just takes a while to get to ’em”.
    Thankfully, after a half dozen more photos, there were people and buildings and everything. Up until then, I was beginning to think that I was hooked up with the lasst of the gypsy Vikings.

  92. mc4ever59 says:

    bh, never forget the formula;
    pizza + beer = patriotic vigor.

  93. mc4ever59 says:

    Cold beer + hot women has also been known to make me vigorous, heh.
    It even moves me to belt out a rousing rendition of “God Bless America” on occasion.

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  95. mc4ever59 says:

    Read the pingback. Outstanding.
    I have to admit, until his recent job of pinch hitting for Jeff here at PW, I had never heard of Dan Collins. A few days ago, I looked up his blog, and saved it to favorites. Consider me a reader of all things Dan Collins from here on out.
    Keep up the great work, Dan.

  96. RI Red says:

    mc4, the way to get into the heads of many of the indoctrinated is to take them to a range, teach them the Four Rules, show them how guns work and let them shoot some targets/tin cans. I took some of my neighbors north and introduced them to the wonders of .22. Talk about shit-eating grins! For all of their lives they have been told that evil guns will kill them as soon as they are touched. When you have a hands-on demonstration that completely contradicts their indoctrination, it really is an awakening.
    From there it’s a simple discussion of why the 2d Amendment makes us different than any society in history. My neighbors are now part of the one-third.

  97. RI Red says:

    And cold beers after the range cement the relationship.

  98. RI Red says:

    squid, ain’t it great when you score? I almost feel like a missionary when I start talking about the founders and their documents. And it truly is just one at a time. My wife was the picture of apolitical – now I come home and she is just bursting to tell me what latest injustice the obamacrats have perpetrated. My son texts me about the crap he hears from his professors in college, and is at his wits’ end with the indoctrination of his peers.
    Aside – he flew home from Utah recently and sat next to a black busnissman from Salt Lake. They talked for three hours. Turns out he was an official with the Utah Republican party. At the end of the flight the guy told my son that, after talking to him, he now had hope for my son’s generation. Doesn’t get much better than that.
    As discouraged as I get, there are individual victories out there.

  99. TRHein says:

    Dan was here in the begining… unfortunately the pikachu has since attached itself much like this. The good news is it will eventually die off.

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