You’d think that when Hillary Rosen let the Left-feminist Sisterhood Veil drop (and they just can’t seem to help themselves there) to articulate in no uncertain terms what Good Democrat Womyns really think about inauthentic women like Ann Romney, they would mumble something resembling a mea culpa and slink off to stick some more pins into their Michelle Malkin voodoo dolls.
Sadly, No
All the journalists piled on today agreeing that of course Hillary Rosen stepped in it when she said that Ann Romney “has never worked a day of life.” How insulting! How deeply hurtful to moms!
But merely because a campaign make a disingenuous attack does not mean we all have to demand our own special apology. It is perfectly obvious, listening to Hillary Rosen, what she meant by “never worked a day in her life.” […]
We can admit that that’s an awkward phrase, and we can also admit that at this point staying home full time with your children is not only a choice but pretty much a luxury of the elite. And almost by definition makes it hard for you to relate to the average woman.
Joan Walsh joins in
In the opening segment of Hardball, which predictably dealt with the Romney-Rosen dustup, Walsh said, “The very real issue is that life is tougher for women who have to work, that being able to stay home with your children right now is an issue, it’s a choice for the wealthy only.”
“And we need to be discussing the issues of poor women, of working class women, of middle class women, and getting our panties in a twist over the issues of very wealthy women when the woman in question, Hilary Rosen, has apologized. This is a bad day.”
I’m sure it is, Joan, but not in the way you think.
Not to be left out, the ever-entertaining Little Miss Mandy gets her hate on
Hillary Rosen sensibly goes on TV and points out that this claim doesn’t even make sense, since Ann Romney is hardly the expert, being a lifelong housewife married to an incredibly rich man who doesn’t know the first thing about what it’s like to try to live off a paycheck […]
But Romney has a secret weapon up her sleeve: Housewife Romanticization. She knows the feminine mystique still runs strong in this country, and that there’s a strong tradition of idiotic platitudes about the greatness of housewives that exist to conceal very real concerns about inequality and female dependency, concerns that were raised in the 60s and haven’t ever been completely killed off despite heavy use of meaningless platitudes.
I’m always amused by the earnest and entirely irony-free screeds of Vagina Warriors about “female dependency” ushered forth in argument to make Sugar Daddy Government teh womyns life partner.
[W]hen you ask the rare “choice” stay-at-home mother why she made her decision, many will say they tried to juggle a job and raising children and found…..wait for it….that it was too hard, that the work levels were unmanageable.
See it’s all about the work, not about the priorities. The idea that a woman, along with her husband, have decided to sacrifice some current income in order to better serve the raising of their kids – rather than giving mom some free time to eat bon-bons and swig some noon-time gin, never crosses Mandy’s alleged mind.
A woman who lives in extreme wealth and has a team of servants to handle the parts of staying at home that really are hard work—you know, like all the endless cleaning—really has no idea what it’s like to either be a working mother or what it’s like to live as most stay-at-home mothers do.
Because the Ann Romney of today has such a short memory — maybe it was the cancer she survived or the MS she deals with now? — that her early years as a undergrad, married, first time mom living in a $75/month basement apartment have flown completely away. What a dumb [expletive of your choice].
“War on Women”, indeed.
Many have said this before me but I really like it. “I thought that the GOP was the stupid party.”
These are sophisticated, savvy people… we’re told.
Ann Romney doesn’t have a real job.
You know, like rolling over at 10:30 a.m., combing the dried punkass seamen out of your 70’s era bush, and wearing the tips of your fingers raw in rebellion against the Patriarchy.
Ann Romney doesn’t have a real job.
Yeah, you know, like having a part-time, make up your own work schedule, $300K/yr job at a hospital that was so valuable it’s eliminated once you quit.
The vagina warriors can suck my dick. Ga.
but, it’s nice to know I’m a member of the elite. Pay no attention to the late bills and shabby furniture. i’m ELITE.
I feel … more elevated already.
I’m not sure on the exact polling data here but they probably feel safe here because married women (marriage is the basic requirement for a stay at home parent) break pretty hard to the conservative side.
Is this a strange bank shot to pander to single mothers (who don’t have a stay at home option)? Make them feel that married people aren’t making different and perhaps better choices, they’re just richer and elitererer?
I don’t know. Maybe they just hate some women. Enough to go to war against them even.
Fuck them. Let ’em march that message right out into the world and see where it gets them.
I have hard lib friends like Marcotte, et al. How could I not, having worked in a university Humanities Dept. Thing is, most of them live in tony parts of town and go to wine tastings and drive expensive custom ten speeds because they never have children and don’t understand why anyone would.
I look forward to their gene pools perishing with them at their over-done funerals where people have to literally pretend to give a shit that they’re dead.
Debbie Wassy Schultz may have had her hair darkened and straightened out, but the new image is fighting her mouth and face which are still the asymmetrically crooked lying mess they’ve always been.
bh
Left-fems don’t like marriage UNLESS it is totally “non-traditional” — e.g. they get to tell their ‘husband’ what they expect him to do, group marriage, same-sex marriage.
Otherwise, marriage is a Tool of The Patriarchy(tm).
Wait… I thought wives telling husbands what to do was the traditional version.
I kid, I kid.
Didn’t Marcotte vouch for a candidate who was fucking another woman and spreading his seed all up in her while his wife was succumbing to cancer?
Yet here she is again, lecturing women on which ones are real and which are just entitled husks disguised as women who don’t much count, because choice only matters if that choice is to take on a job rather than raise a family, or kill a baby rather than be punished with its parasitic evil moving in to your gloriously empowered vessel.
Because let’s face it: real women blog about bias against transgendered Miss Universe contestants or act as mouth pieces for Jon Edwards, they don’t just decide to trade that kind of important work in for raising a family. At least, not unless they’re millionaires and billionaires.
— Which, by the way, Obama and his wife were, by his definition, when they claim they couldn’t afford the “luxury” of having a stay at home parent. The answer to which, of course, is to tax them more!
You’d think at a certain point the entire Democrat freakshow would finally be laughed off the fucking stage.
Besides. The Obama Administration is increasing the number of stay at home parents by leaps and bounds. Only not by choice. They’re just losing their jobs.
Not that facts matter but the Census says there’s a whole lot of poor/middle class SAHMs. You’d think these bitches would know that.
Marcotte is obviously the Jim Moran* of the double-X set. I don’t how she got the rubber authenticity stamp, but without the stamp it’s not a woman. VAE VICTUS! Fear the stamp holders!
* Jim “the ethnic verifier” Moran is the noticeably white-skinned, duly self-appointed, arbitrative, ‘black authenticity inspection officer’ of Congress who unilaterally officially de-blacked Congressman Alan West.
Easter Sunday we were at my parents’ home and caught the last few holes of The Masters at Augusta …
….. Bubba Watson’s hook shot out of the woods on the 10th brought us to our feet shouting … but I digress …
in the midst of all the VW teethgrinding over the private Augusta club, the fact that the PGA is open to ALL golfers and no female is barred from the PGA tournaments is decidely ignored by the VWers …
because a female golfer has to qualify exactly the same as a male …
Left-feminists aren’t about “equality”, they are about female supremacy.
Just remembered an old Barro paper (it’s a .pdf link):
Wonder if tax increases are one reason why it’s such a huge luxury to rely on only one salary?
The more I hear from womyn the gladder I am that I’m already married.
here’s a meme that is trotted out this time of year
Mothers pay: How a mum’s family chores would cost £30,000 a year
By Daily Mail Reporter
UPDATED: 04:26 EST, 28 March 2011
Blackness and womanhood are both statuses that emerge solely from loyalty to the left-activist causes of the democratic party. No we know.
I know an awful lot of SAHMs and most of them aren’t wealthy, but they are educated.
I thought we were supposed to do anything that we put our minds to? Or are we just tools of the Patriarchy™?
It’s possible to live on one middle class income. However, you go without multiple car payments, the 2,200 sq. foot home, regular vacations in the 40′ travel trailer and cell phones with unlimited data in every pocket.
I’m sure it means nothing but a lady in the neighborhood brought this up unprompted when we were chatting yesterday. She’s never mentioned a single political topic to me before.
This is just a stupid, stupid ploy.
What else do they have though? He’s a disaster. A malevolent and stupid disaster.
So it’s hard for families to get by without two incomes these days.
WELL WHOSE FLUKING FAULT IS THAT?
Yup. My wife and I did it for several years on maybe $50K a year. We lived in a little duplex that we paid a little over $400 a month for (in a bad neighborhood; but hey, that’s only statistics, right?) and I didn’t have a cell phone with a data plan. We also owned one car outright and the other one we bought used (and since paid off). Our cars are 1993 and 1994 respectively.
We make more now, but we still have the same two cars, we don’t go out to eat very often, etc.
It was a choice. I essentially sacrificed my academic career — and I pretty much knew I’d be doing it. Still, it’s been a choice I wouldn’t change for the world.
I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this to you guys yet but you’d have quite a bit more disposable income if you had just opted for an abortion here or there.
Jeez.
Nah, they’re little tax deductions and I’ve let mine know they are taking care of me in my old age—and it better be in style.
the proggslams are imploding
Blake
I was a SAHM for 16 years (prior marriage) … very tight budget with few extras but it was the best decision.
Jeff, we did much the same only it was a drafty old Victorian mansion in a scary neighborhood. At $500 a month it was a steal. Three storeys and a walk-out basement, four fireplaces and 12 foot ceilings.
There’s really no limit to what you can do if you learn how to cook from scratch, do your own home repairs and don’t care what you drive. I still have three twenty+ year old vehicles, in fact the newest one we have is a 12 year old Toyota.
Darleen, Jeff, prior marriage, my ex was a SAHM. I worked full time, plus picked up part time jobs here and there.
Honestly, I think the US is reverting to a more traditional SAHP model with the SAHP (P=Parent) picking up part time work once the kids reach school age..providing the kids aren’t being home schooled.
So yeah, I know it can be done and it isn’t easy. Of course, life isn’t easy, anyway.
That was the choice my wife and I made, we came close to the edge when a previous business was tanking but we decided we would sell the house(ha!) before she went back to work. Fortunately we managed to turn it around.
I think it’s a matter of priorities, Blake.
I wanted to be with my kids when they were little. I did have my youngest in daycare for about a month when he was a year old and I couldn’t stand it. I quit working until he was old enough for preschool.
Likewise, the local elementary schools were fine scholastically, they were dangerous physically. My kids are all a little on the small side and were raised smooth in a rough neighborhood so there were always hard feelings because of some bullies at school. There was no talking to their parents since they were mostly douchebags or the other kids were being raised by the grandparents because the parents had vanished or were in prison. I wanted the boys to be with people who shared our values so we enrolled them at parochial school. The kids learned to deal with different kinds of people and I always knew where they were and who they were with.
[W]hen you ask the rare “choice” stay-at-home mother why she made her decision, many will say they tried to juggle a job and raising children and found…..wait for it….that it was too hard, that the work levels were unmanageable.
Amanda, you ignorant slut. Stick to what you know. For instance, keeping the pubes feathered below the navel.
She deserves exactly zero respect for her clapped-out Dworkin the Cimmerian shtick. Yeah, the work was too hard, you ditz.
Or, maybe, just maybe, it’s one of those cases where it makes no economic, social or familial sense to farm out the responsibility of raising your children to others, no matter how well-intentioned.
Mandy turns 35 this year, per Wiki. I’m having a party celebrating the official end to her fertility in thirteen years (extra time built in for a safety margin). The world will be better place without the threat of her transmitting her DNA.
In 2002 the Obama family made $259,000, Michelle making $120,000 of that.
They certainly had a choice, and they chose the cash.
Linky for my 5:22: Stay At Home Motherhood Isn’t A Luxury, Census Data Shows
My first wife was a SAHM. She was also a lazy, amoral, useless sack of leeches. But I digress.
And let’s remember what Michelle was paid to do at her next job, motionview. Yes, that’s right, she was a shock troop in the War on the Poor and Infirm. I bet half of them were women, too.
-shit Confucius would say if he wasn’t a dead foreigner.
I think I finally figured this out.
They’ve identified the exact group most likely to understand the need to follow a reasonable budget.
They’ve identified the exact group most likely to understand the need to follow a reasonable budget.
and declare war on them
“They’ve identified the exact group most likely to understand the need to follow a reasonable budget”
YAHTZEE!!! (I would have bolded that but then I’d have to search for Ric Lockes pub piece that explains the code for it, plus I couldn’t nudge Jeff to put the codes back where they were; YOU TRACKIN ME, JG;-)
That’s gold, bh.
Didn’t Ann Romney say she didn’t have maids or nannies?
I can totally see a rich Mormon woman passing on those luxuries either out of guilt or out of pride. Or because she’d rather do the mom-work than anything else, on account of she felt called to it.
Some women actually think the motherhood drudge-work is pretty precious stuff.
Is Ann Romney’s family well off? If she didn’t grow up with help and she and Mitt struggled when they first married, I can totally see it. My mother was a very poor child and she would never hire help when my dad started raking it in because she didn’t want strangers in the house.
Didn’t Ann Romney say she didn’t have maids or nannies?
let’s ask “working moms” in hollyweird or new york about their help
is a lesbian with adopted children who’s separated from her partner the best the proggslams can do?
I keep seeing people yammering about her servants and I keep asking for evidence that she’s ever had any. So far, no takers.
Meanwhile, having a Stay On Smack Mom seems to present its own challenges.
Don’t know if this was from the radio or something I read but I was just hearing about them being a broke, young couple and she was talking about putting together carpet samples and having his parents joking about how cheaply they were living when they came to visit.
It rang true and was completely charming.
She’s a real asset.
That sounds real, bh. A woman I knew ages ago had married her college sweetheart and they had lived in a studio apartment while he went to medical school and she worked as a secretary. They would be about the Romney’s ages now.
I keep seeing people yammering about her servants and I keep asking for evidence that she’s ever had any
5 servants but no link. journolist bs
And Ann Romney has become a folk hero for her courageous act of raising children with 5 servants and no career
She was also saying something about doing her homework with a baby on her lap and I honestly thought to myself, “She was already a real adult at an age when I was literally walking around with balloons full of nitrous oxide.”
it is an echo chamber about “servants”
http://gothamist.com/2012/04/12/ann_romney_proudly_stands_up_for_ri.php
I look forward to their gene pools perishing with them at their over-done funerals where people have to literally pretend to give a shit that they’re dead.
Why pretend? It can be like the vision Scrooge got by the Spirit of Christmas Future.
I could care less if Romney lives well. Romney’s dad was successful, but Romney’s wealth is mostly self made. And Michelle Obama does not have servants? Do you ever think she is going back to working for a living (other than perhaps giving speeches?).
Liberal Saint FDR really did grow up Downtown Abbey.
So fuck them.
jg @ 617
“I essentially sacrificed my academic career”
and
“And Ann Romney has become a folk hero for her courageous act of raising children with 5 servants and no career. ”
that “career” thing is important in some quarters. me “careers” are proggtard cartoon cutouts of what life is.
because a “career” is a proggtard way of asking “how you going to make money?” you could be a “community organizer”! it sounds so nice to your fellow proggtards.
the “war on women” continues
Great News: Obama Secret Service Agents Recalled From Colombia for Soliciting Prostitutes
Was the left incensed at John Kerry’s wealth? John Edwards’? Did they demonize either of their wives for it? Mandy? You got something here? How about Algore?
The Romney’s are spending their money on servants. Michele is renting out castles on our dime. Compare and contrast!
Also, how many Americans whose houses are underwater got deals from Rezko?
Oh, yes. Let’s play!
We can start vetting Pelosi’s wealth. Or Feinstein.
Oooh, I know: Corzine! Yes, by all means. Let’s talk about wealth and morality and being in touch with the American people. FORE!
teresa heinz kerry for fun
I will never forget that Obama gave the Queen of England an iPod with his speeches on it.
I knew all I needed to know about the manners of the First Couple right there.
Anything else they say or do just reinforces that position.
Feinstein has guns, too. They just aren’t for the “little people”.
Jeff, then there’s this interview with President Obama.
Not an MBM reporter which is probably why the President got pounded with inconvenient questions.
“obama-secret-service-agents-recalled-from-colombia-for-soliciting-prostitutes”
Too bad GW wasn’t there to save them from themselves.
Servants are employees, usually expensive ones. Y’know as in JOBS. What;s wrong with that?
” And Ann Romney has become a folk hero for her courageous act of raising children with 5 servants and no career”
Ooh! Sounds kind of Kennedyesque! Oh wait….
Shrews just aren’t very photogenic.
Hey, now! The Kennedy’s are American Royalty, dude. It’s amazing that the Republic has survived without one in office for a couple of years. Screwing around, doing dope, straight up killing people. sometimes themselves, too. You know, just like regular folk heroes.
Fat, angry lesbian + $100k designer baby + $1,200/ month Guatemalan nanny = “Working mother”
Got it.
Ha!
Stoaty arts it up:
I honestly can’t understand how Amanda “Mrs. Potatohead” Marcotte gets paid to write anything. Her prose is inferior to that of most college undergraduates.
I don’t care if Ann Romney did have 5 servants.
If I had 5 boys, I’d hire servants and ServPro full time.
Hell, I’d hire Stephen Hawking & a goddamn NCAA basketball coach to teach ’em.
You little punks are getting through college on your own…one way or the other.
Maybe at one point she referred to each of her five boys as servants (you know, for Jesus). This should be a ludicrous explanation but it’s hard to put anything past our corrupt press.
Things Womyn Democrats ignore
(ongoing series maybe?)
Darleen, ya know, do that thing you do.
…but it’s hard to put anything past our corrupt press.
No it’s not.
And that was a month ago. Before he locked it up. It’s “dirty, selfish spoiled whore” and “Cult, culty, McCulty cult & Mormon underwear” from here on out.
And it will come from the “Rosen’s”. Never the White House.
And.
Here.
We.
Go.
I would not be surprised if that is correct. The MBM hears what it wants to hear.
I thought that was a common idiom.
It’s a common idiom both ways though, isn’t it?
I wouldn’t put it past him.
Or,
You can’t get much past ol’ man Wiserdude.
I meant the former.
Corzine is going to jail,
orand the whole game is rigged.FIFMyself
Den Beste pops his head up to make a little more sense. I certainly can’t say he’s wrong.
You know what the difference is between Ann Romney and Elizabeth Edwards? Ann isn’t dead and she didn’t marry a total sleezeball.
What if they continually insult Mormons and your average voter thinks, “Hey, Leave it to Beaver sounds way better than this shit I keep reading in the paper.”
That’s their problem here. This is just a recipe to keep stepping on their dicks.
Let’s go a step further. What if they keep comparing Mitt’s background against their assorted bad options and not only do they lose… 50 million Americans convert?
I worked at a company with a Mormon founder and, thus, a lot of Mormon employees. It sort of made the corporate culture a little unusual for NYC, but for the most part this was in good ways. They are square, but not in a way that lefties like to caricature wholesome living people. I learned that for certain when I had the Sex Pistols blasting in my office at around midnight and discovered that my Mormon boss was doing something in the next room the whole time and never so much as asked me to turn it down.
I’m gonna read between the lines here.
He was working on a big project due the next day.
Yeah, he was preparing for a presentation. I suppose that I was unintentionally ambiguous enough to leave open the possibility that he was banging a cleaning lady though.
See, that’s what I figured. Heh.
I’ve known a couple of Mormons. I always admired them in that they always go about like they have lots of really important stuff to do (even without caffeine).
I mostly work hard so at some point during the day I have as little as possible to do.
Man.
I’d make a shitty Mormon.
Ozzie and Harriet (from motionview’s link) was IIRC the first TV show to have the husband and wife share a bed not sleep in twin beds. Ozzie Nelson pushed for it as it was ridiculous for a married couple to sleep in separate beds.
I thought acutely-sensibilitied ethics-setting urban fetishists enrapt in the very awe of themselves all rode rehabbed fixies. No, no I didn’t.
One key to Mormon success in this world is the year they spend on mission before college.
I was think… (I know I shouldn’t) that this is a really stupid line of attack. Knowing the way most of feel about Romney on this site maybe their thought is to goad us in to voting for him based on the way they are attacking Romney’s wife (thought bubble: maybe Romney’s campaign is behind it).
I suppose since they can’t compare and contrast Romney and Obama on they really don’t have anything esle.
Never mind then.
An – us here at PW – goes in there somewhere.
[…] UPDATE: Related thoughts from Darleen Click. […]
The National Organization for Marriage makes a convincing case that someone within the IRS has leaked their tax information to the Human Rights Campaign. HRC is memory-holing the evidence.
You cannot think that traditional marriage should be preserved.
You cannot think that. It is not that being Catholic or Mormon is a hate crime (yet); you just cannot think those thoughts.
H8R.
From the pingback Bookworm post
This is not just a war of tired old feminists who are trying to justify the fact that most of them paid illegal, undereducated women, many of whom speak little or no English, to raise their children.
Fuck them. Let ‘em march that message right out into the world and see where it gets them.
This is my precise attitude.
The idea that families prefer to hire nannys to raise their kids in order for Mom to self actualize her career, well I’m sure that resonates with the “Clueless Liberal Single Women and Lesbian Feminist” demographic, but most families don’t believe that shit, if they care about their kids.
You know, when my wife and I were starting out broke as shit, my mom would continually ask “why would we sacrifice like that when we didn’t have too?” Now my dual-income sister’s kids spend nearly every minute outside of school at my mother’s house. Because my sister’s and spouses “need a break” and “some time to themselves” but don’t have the money to put their kids in after school care, which “is a ripoff”. I now listen to my mother complain about how “she thought she was done”. She complains to my wife (who has just astounding self control), that my brother’s in law should “step up” and “take care of business”. One of my B-I-L’s wants to quit his shitty job and stay home with the kids, and he’d be great at it, but he’s scared to death to mention it to anyone but me.
I just laugh and laugh. I’ll probably (almost certainly, if the the tape recorded phone conversations between my wife and her best friend in my safety deposit box are to be believed) drop dead at sixty-seven, but all my kids’ will be finished and my wife will have enough money to support herself and her many successive pool boys, and my mother will still be babysitting.
This is what bothers me most about this whole ridiculous argument:
We are arguing about a potential First Lady’s career choice, in order to determine whether or not her husband should be elected president.
Ms. Rosen said that only single mothers who work as waitresses should be allowed to say anything or hold an opinion about the economy, and how decisions should be made at the executive level.
But if a woman is single, how is she supposed to be a first lady?
Have any of the prior 40 first ladies been destitute “Les Miserables” types?
Does it logically follow that only those types can make good decisions as our Chief Executive’s wife?
I don’t give a rat’s patootey how much money a candidate has, or if he has a million cars. I want to know what he’s going to do with *my* family’s money. In the last month, we’ve racked up another 100B in national debt. Who is going to pay for that? Will Mr. Obama? He should, since he’s responsible for it.
LMC, I have informed my kids ala Chris Rock’s mom: “I ain’t raisin’ no babies.”
I didn’t have any help with mine, neither did my mother with hers and so on. I’m done after youngest graduates from college. Come visit? Sure. Babysit all the time? Nein.
DeborahS:
If the hypothetical waitress with two children is the only one allowed to have an opinion on the economy, what does that say about the problem-solving capabilities of the Lefties? Obviously, Waitress Mom has made more than one poor choice in her life’s journey. Why should we heed her advice since her reasoning is obviously flawed?
[…] for the young devils and, somehow, this gets aggregated at Memeorandum along with a post by Darleen Click talking back to left-wing “Vagina Warriors,” among them the predictably ridiculous Amanda Marcotte:[Ann] Romney has a secret weapon up her […]
Who gives a rat’s ass what the Democratic Strategist, Hilary Rosen, says? So what if she thinks that a woman who doesn’t have what she considers a legitimate job, like being an executive in some company or a waitress in some greasy spoon, is not in a position to speak about the things working women consider important on the political/economic stage? Certainly she’s entitled to voice her opinion, even if it is glaringly stupid and short-sighted.