Robert Costa at NRO has the transcript of this morning’s Cain conference call. Stacy McCain, alas, was forced to borrow from it.
Of note: Cain still denies sexual relations with that woman, Ms. White.
So there’s that.
And now here we are: a GOP primary race that is coming down to 1) a pro-Amnesty, pro-ethanol subsidy uber Beltway insider who, while clearly smart, is also too clever by half — which often leads to things like his sitting with Pelosi on a bench telling Americans we need to control our exhalation (earning him the coveted Bill Clinton endorsement) or his endorsing, say, Dede Scozzafava; and 2) a squishy, unprincipled RINO who, in a national election, would get more blame for ObamaCare than Obama himself.
Time to wake up, people. Bachmann is still out there. So is Santorum. And both of them would whip Obama in any debate. Perry is out there, too, but the man is simply awful in a debate setting — which is where most American voters who are still open to picking a president will decide their choice.
And then there’s the obvious elephant in the room: Run run Sarah rulolph. Save Christmas save Christmas save Christmas.
There’s a chance that a Gingrich presidency, should he be able to overcome the bombshells that are coming were he to win the GOP nomination, could be run conservatively: the balance of power between the GOP establishment and the TEA Partiers in Congress would need to shift more to the conservative pole, and so work to keep Gingrich in check.
But as I’ve said before, Gingrich’s intimate knowledge of the Beltway culture, coupled with his smarts, might prove dangerous — particularly insofar as Gingrich seems to believe he knows better than the entirety of the conservative base how best to play the DC game.
— Which of course misses the point the conservative base is sending, namely, that we don’t want to play the game, but rather to scrap it as it now operates and change the rules entirely.
I just don’t know that I can trust Gingrich. And I sure as hell can’t trust Romney.
Yet again, we’re being played: the candidates who appeal to us most are those who have practiced just how to appeal to voters — that is, candidates whose political savvy is the very thing that should cause us to reject them.
We’re squandering our last chance at keeping this country together as founded. And sadly, the vast majority of the GOP’s base either doesn’t see it or is simply in denial.
it’s too late baby yeah it’s too late it’s too too late to run now
Gingrich sucks ass plus he has that Callista albatross around his neck but I relish seeing him debate bumblefuck… I really do
But whoever the hapless Rs select will get my vote. The brutal ass-raping of America must cease.
Or at least slow down some.
Yet again, we’re being played: the candidates who appeal to us most are those who have practiced just how to appeal to voters —
Ding ding ding. It’s funny, because reading the conservative commentary – they both acknowledge and accept it. Yea it sucks, oh well. WE WANT TO WIN.
Do not want.
On the one hand, the evil personal damage to Cain’s family has already been done, that is, it’s no-way clear that getting out of the campaign will actually work to relieve that damage, which I expect will prove ongoing. On the other hand, choosing to continue would require that Cain (and family, in fact) grasps that the problem the nation faces is far greater than the personal tribulations of a fellow like himself, while the electorate has no such vision. Which means, he’d be called on to help the electorate understand that position: not a simple thing, they way Americans have learned to think (or not think, as the case may be). It’s a tough call.
There’s [more than] a chance that a
GingrichRomney presidency, should he be able to overcome the bombshells that are coming were he to win the GOP nomination,could be run conservatively: the balance of power between the GOP establishment and the TEA Partiers in Congress would need to shift more to the conservative pole, and so work to keepGingrichRomney in check.Also true, as far as it goes.
Shorter sdferr: Cain got some politics on him. And nobody cares what he thinks.
He’s just like Clinton except for not at all.
The government we deserve…
Cain was ok I would have happily voted for him but I thought he was unprepared at key moments and I thought he was too much the vociferous demagogue on the third-order issue of immigration to give me confidence that he truly grasped the problems the nation faces and I thought his animosity to amiable dunce and stalwart public servant Mr. Governor Rick was just plain tacky and he never sold me on the third 9.
I think the sexual harassment sluts were lying whores, each and every one of them.
Personally I’m still holding out for Cain. Has anyone else noted that there is only one angle from which he’s being attacked?
“Let’s see…everyone sees him as too nice a guy to be guilty of predatory sexual harassment and/or assault, so let’s see if they’ll buy that he’s a smooth-talking womanizer.”
Makes me sick.
I have an issue with this on two fronts. First (and this doesn’t make it ok, mind you), there are precious few people anymore who live to be his age in a high-pressure corporate world who haven’t taken advantage of at least one opportunity of a sexual nature with an easily-impressed young lady.
Second (and more importantly) even if this is true, by hanging Cain out to dry over it, we’re sending the message that we really DID go after Clinton for the sexual act (as opposed to lying under oath) and that we’d rather send America down the tubes with more establishment ruling-class politicians than to eat crow and admit that, when all is said and done, a man’s judgement in governing isn’t directly connected to his habits regarding where he puts his penis.
So looking forward to meeting your candidate, feets.
I don’t think I thought those thoughts so much JHo, but what do I know? If I were to attempt a precis, I think it would look more like: Cain has an opportunity to become a great (and immiserated) leader, or to become a miserable man out of leadership, while the nation sits in the balance, ready to fall into permanent decline, or rise to something nearer its former self.
my candidate isn’t running Mr. Howard I have to support whoever the process shits out
this I have to do for America
Funny JHo, I thought sdferr was saying that Cain and family are going to have to show more grit than the Daniels clan.
I didn’t say you thought them, sdferr, just that that’s what came out. And so what?
We’re both cynical and old enough to not personally much care that we know that as a nation we don’t care collectively, and then to seriously doubt that Cain’s “opportunity” to be much more than his own defense counsel is material to his electability.
Yup. Give it up, Herman. Take one for the team. Just Do. Not. Lie.
As for Gingrich, the one very tiny hope I have for that prospect is that he has enough of a historical understanding to understand where we are and how we got here and enough of an ego to want to go down in history as the guy who did something to fix it.
Imagine that grit if he had an unimpeachable character. He’d probably be convicted of something heinous by now, having sought what he has.
Mitch’s flaky wife should be included in the Undutiful Cumsluts series of commemorative stamps from the newly-privatized United States Postal Service someday
Indeed. So invent one. Go on.
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Oh, and one more thing…
Talk all you want about “winning the hearts and minds of the people” but nobody in his right mind will vote against his own handout, and if we don’t take a more aggressive stance, the person who constitutes the “50% plus one vote” will very soon cast his ballot and we’ll be on an irreversible path to oblivion.
That in mind, why can’t we have a “damn the torpedoes” mentality among conservatives? Why in the hell is the “whatever it takes” passion confined to the left? Is it not obvious to more than a handful of people in this country that a nation of consumers can’t sustain itself, particular after it cuts off the hands of the producers?
If the perfect is the enemy of the good, will we ever see a conservative candidate who is “pure” enough, or will we keep on taking them out behind the barn and shooting them rather than letting them use their strengths to help make the turn. We’re not in need of “tweaking” things a bit…we’re on a direct path to a fucking economic apocalypse, and nobody seems to notice, or to care enough to swallow their sanctimony and pull the handle for someone who might can start changing course.
/rant
a failshit country tends to produce failshit candidates Mr. Howard
it’s the vicious circle of fail!
We’re setting sail to the place on the map from which no one has ever returned!
Not sure if you posted that in apathy toward or confirmation of the post immediately preceding it, feets…
Has anyone else noted that there is only one angle from which he’s being attacked?
It’s a bit more specific than you’ve alluded to Jamie:
Cain likes him some white wimminz.
I remain skeptical, but this is more of a problem than the lawsuit lottery bimbos.
I hadn’t read it at the time Mr. Howard
It’s a lot harder to conserve the good in the existing order than it is to destroy the not-good-enough in order to bring about the better. That’s why.
and by not-good-enough, I mean not as good as the ideal.
Somewhat a measure of what would raise the most eyebrows, I’d assume, Ernst.
Either that, or they haven’t been able to sufficiently bribe a black girl into coming out with a lie about Cain, which might actually confirm the fear that the Black Vote™ might slip away from the D column with a solidly conservative black candidate on the ballot.
Of course the Establishment says there’s no way to pull that voting bloc to the Republican ticket, and I’m sure they know what’s best.
No. No one who can’t see past the end of his nose or doesn’t really care about consequences will vote against his own handout. Many thoroughly sane people understand that what happens when you pump the well dry is not pretty. And some of them see that occurring sooner rather than later.
People in their right mind understand what Thatcher said is what I’m saying.
I thought Ms. White was black? At least I read that somewhere yesterday.
I’m not keen on any of our guys. I still heart Rick Perry, but, as we all know, that dream went riding off into the sunset unless his cram sessions with George Will’s wife (get your minds out of the gutter) are paying some dividends.
Really, Jeff? Bachmann? Santorum? Those two are zealots. My dad is big on Bachmann, but admits she is toast. Newt will shoot himself in the foot by shooting off his mouth sooner or later. Romney? He’s shifty, to me, but everyone keeps telling me it’s his turn! The others? Meh.
They started working on thinning the field right after the 2008 election. Throwing down the “personal destruction” card so that many would decide not to run at all. Those who did and were at all conservative had to know they would be “Palinized”, “Borked”, and “Thomased” in the primaries. Any baggage would be exposed in the worst possible light and if you have none it would be manufactured along with the finest evidence and witnesses unlimited money could find and buy.
Democrats don’t troll cheap $100 bills. They have deeper pockets when it comes to keeping power. The current leadership learned the lesson from their former masters on what is a priority financially.
From The Robert Conquest book I’m reading. Page 96.
He goes on to detail that unlike the image that we have of Moscow’s frugality they spent lavishly and funded in other ways all those who would work for the good of the Party. Likewise they would wield a vicious and at times lethal “stick” to those who did not toe the line.
Any who do not see the extent of the organization that is the “left” in just the USA, the huge sums of money available for any purpose that will ensure continued power, isn’t looking very hard or is willfully, and/or paid to be blind.
There is this video. Decide for yourself.
White and frumpy.
I saw her on teevee yesterday. She looked white to me, but then I read she was black. So, perhaps like our mulatto prez, she is an octaroon (sp?)?
Mitt’s your guy then leigh. He isn’t zealous about anything.
Unless you need him to be.
Mitt is anything he needs to be. I hate guys like that.
Yeah. I’m surprised they don’t show up in robes and sandals carrying big stone tablets. Likely would have never even made it to the national scene if not for Amway and Jesus carwashes.
And hell, who wants zealots who are all for the Constitution? Or who have from day one tried to get their own party to beat back ObamaCare. They don’t heart the gays in the way the gays demand to be hearted. And that’s just icky. Best have a savvy pragmatist. Those we can trust!
We get the leaders we deserve.
And we deserve the leaders we get.
All you have to do is convert to the religion of the left and race becomes a thing of personal choice.
I prefer my candidates to be milquetoasty and appealing to the “sane” moderates who have done such a bang-up job of stopping the constant drift of this country leftward.
They make me feel all smart and in the know. Plus, my friends don’t distrust me because when they repeat all the “wild eye” jokes I don’t laugh along with them.
It is my feeling that Bachmann has some chutzpah to run for prez when she has only served two terms in Congress. Shades of Obama’s thin resume. I don’t like the So Cons and wish they would sit down and be quiet.
Two terms in the House and and two terms in the Minnesota Senate, where she did a helluva lot more than vote “present.”
Took out two incumbents to get there too.
There does seem to be some strange link between the desire to gain power and sexual impropriety. It’s not an uncommon or unexpected thing, and it seems to be part of the same impulse. Not to be godbothery, but you have King David, who rose to power and got nasty with Bathsheba (and this was in a culture where the king got to have a harem). Conversely, you have Joseph who gained a decent position for the time and resisted the salacious advances of Mrs. Potifar. He eventually got an even better gig but after suffering because of the hoochie’s false accusations.
That’s thousands of years ago in an Eastern culture, and we’ve experienced the same dynamics in our modern Western culture. What it comes down to, seems to me, is that you can be a good leader and not be a particularly good person. The R team (at the immense glee and urging of our L enemies) seem to require that the person we put up for the “leader” job also fit the “good person” job. That would be a very nice thing. But maybe we need to be willing to forgo the “good person” for the “complete asshole, but he can sure do the job”.
After all, look what the last 3 years of a “good man” but a complete SCOAMF got us.
Yeah, but he’s not a crazy zealot weirdo! Until the general.
I’m thinking that unless stuff involves violence, clear evidence of scamming and ongoing substance abuse, I don’t care. There’s either Left or Right.
The politics of personal morality is of declining utility, i suspect.
Nice. And stating this gives you no pause?
I mean, kindly pardon the kindly friendly fire, leigh, but WTF.
libtarded thinking [sly grin]
I wouldn’t vote for this guy, just a feeling I have, you know?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3967502/Tatt-poo-for-cheating.html
Too much incindiary language, JHo? Of course it gives me pause. It also gives me pause that my pick, Governor Perry is getting no play when he actually isn’t a bumbler or a nitwit.
Pablo, tell me that Santorum isn’t a zealot. I lived in PA when he lost his ass to Bob Casey, Jr., arguably the dumbest man in the Senate. Bachmann lost me with her husband’s weird issues about gays. That and her voice. It is the same problem I have with Palin. If they sounded like Kathleen Turner, I’d be able to listen to what they have to say instead of tuning it out because it grates. I have the same problem with Huntsman. He may have something to say, but I can’t hear it because of his delivery.
my sister says useless scrunt Kay Bailey Hutchison is really pushing the idea hard that this was all engineered by camp Perry
her life is sad and empty I think, Kay Bailey’s
Things that matter and things that don’t, MSM edition.
Yeah, Ernst. It’s me and my proggy ways. Weisenheimer. ;)
I’m not Pablo but I can’t. But mostly won’t.
No kidding. Obama? Dulcet tones, dulcet tones.
So in eleven months you (and your dad) can play DemBall and stay home! Because of the nasally zealots.
We won’t stay home. That’s quitting. And as man is born to suffer, as the sparks fly upward, we’ll cast our votes for the guy with the R after his name.
No, leigh, quitting is playing the left’s game, no matter
how you let them decidewho you’ll be voting for.So what is your answer to this conundrum, JHo?
What’s the conundrum, leigh?
If you look at Bachmann and Santorum on the issues they essentially check all the boxes across the board of conservatism. Which means they give me 85% of what I want and don’t alienate my coalition allies. Is that a quest for purity? Well, not really, because I’m not looking for them to agree with me 100%, I’m looking for them to satisfy the hawks, the fiscal folks, and the social cons. Satisfy those three groups and you have the numbers necessary to move legislation.
Have they (Bachmann and Santorum) bugged me before? Sure. So has everyone else though. Including my favorite trio of non-runners: Palin, Daniels, and Ryan.
As POTUS, I assume they’d both be pretty solid conservatives. That’s what matters. And that’s what leaves me cold about Romney and Gingrich.
Picking the best of a bad lot. Maybe we need to do what they did in the city of Chicago in the late 1920’s: hire gangsters to enforce the rules at the polls so we can get a square vote.
“Picking the best of a bad lot”
When you conclude the lot is bad, and cite octave of speaking voice as criteria, excuse me when I doubt your qualifications to judge.
Anything wrong with bh’s formulation, leigh? Anything less from the right kinda plays into the last paragraph of this, no?
Look, the greatest lie progressivism ever told — and progressivism is The Lie from education to medicine to housing to commerce to retirement to the press — is that lie related to money. Today we are literally faced with systemic, monetary failure. A structural EMP permeating through the institutions that on this (wretchedly socialized) fiscal landscape of ours, literally allow us to exist as citizens in the American whole.
The tubes will be yanked out, leigh. And replaced. Not if, when.
Let that sink in.
And we’re worried about offending the ostensible covetous, thieving, racialist sensibilities of the twenty-percenters that are the progg elite class as we tacitly admit that they hold all the marbles? And they shall instruct us how to vote, nay, to think about voting?
Conundrum isn’t the word we want.
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I am not sure who is worst, Romney or Gingrich.
I know both of them are better than Obama. But not by much.
And at that point, Joe, what’s the better option?
1. Going over the cliff at 80
2. Going over the cliff at 120 while telling the GOP/media whores (looking at you, Davidjen Rubinfrooks) they don’t get to pick our candidates for us by either not voting for the R-ish statist or for a write-in/other non-pragmatic candidate.
Joe, it’s Gingrich of course.
It’s ‘cuz he’s not electable.
Did you know Gingrich cheated on his wife, then divorced her while she was laying in a hospital with cancer?
I heard someone accuse him of that once anyway, so, forget about him already.
I respect bh as a thoughtful guy and I concur with what he has said, particularly the last paragraph.
Lee, I have not concluded that the candidates are a “bad lot” and I should not have given that impression. If I want to hate on Palin and Bachmann’s voices, I’m allowed to do so. To me it detracts from their message. To me. That would be me. I didn’t say that you aren’t allowed to lovelovelove either or both of them.
JHo, I’ve been a student of David Horowitz for more than twenty years. This moment has been coming for a long, long time. Our presidential campaigns have turned into one long long episode of American Idol. This isn’t particularily new, but has been more and more true since we all got television sets and cable. This yearning for a mortal savior in the form of a good looking, well spoken president (depending on whose measures we are using) has brought us to where we are now: bickering about whether or not this or that person is presidential timber or a famewhore with a big following.
I think conundrum works well until we can come up with a better one. Do we stay or do we go?
You know, if we’re jumping cliffs, it might be a good idea to go as fast as possible. Bo and Luke Duke seemed to think so.
(Though I’m not sure if that metaphor maps back to real life. Feels like maybe it could though. If we go slower we land in a dystopian hard-totalitarian gulley and if we go faster we land on the other side with state and local governments being the only remaining levels of government?)
#66 might be an entirely silly comment. When you think in terms of “what would the Duke brothers do” you come out in unexpected places.
Go out in a blaze of glory, bh? Do we get a sequel?
So now there’s video of Newt explicitly recommending an individual mandate. Hard to see this enhancing Newt’s appeal as the not-Romney.
Jesus Bloody Christ leigh!
You’re ticked that Perry’s inability to talk his way into a free general admission event is causing voters to overlook his public record, while at the same time you yourself dismiss both Bachmann and Palin because they sound funny?
libtarded thinking [arched eyebrow]
Although, bh, I’m pretty sure thinking in terms of “who would the Duke brothers do”, in light of the whole cousin-lovin’ proclivities attributed to the Dukes’ socio-economic stratum, gets you to Daisy Duke. Rrrrroowwwwrrrr!!!
“If I want to hate on Palin and Bachmann’s voices, I’m allowed to do so. To me it detracts from their message. To me. That would be me”
OK, but that doesn’t change what I said.
Maybe you could be more serious about what is important, and less easily distracted? You’ll thank me for it later…
For what it’s worth, I’m not accusing you of being either a proggie or a libtard. But I am suggesting that the stew of liberal conventional wisdom you’re steeping in is retarding your thought process.
Right you are, Darth.
Forget that stupid cliff. Let’s haul ass to the Boar’s Nest and see if Daisy is working.
leigh, in this context you’ve said that Bachmann is admitted to be a lost cause and surely Newt will step on his protuberance. Palin sounds funny and off goes the radio. You’ll vote whatever R comes to pass.
Which you’re entirely entitled to do as a matter of your rights and privileges in the face of the literal loss of this nation. But tell me how any of that thinking deviates from the left’s party line, other than you’ll — albeit begrudgingly — pull the appointed handle they put in your hand for an R instead of a D?
Dismiss the premise and you’ll dismiss the trajectory. Dismiss the trajectory and the truth shall set you free, or thereabouts.
There is something to be said for beauty in politics, too. People, strangely enough, are attracted to it, and I think, properly so. Nor will they quit. But take beauty with the widest of implications.
I know you’re not, Ernst. I freely admit to my prejudices against the lady in the race. As a female myself, I know that we wommin often hold conflicting opinions and that they often don’t make sense. One of a slew of reasons I don’t want to see a woman president. But, some would say we already have one, judging by his fey behavior.
Yeeeeeee HAW, bh!!!
If we’re reduced to choosing how we’re going out, instead of tooting out the first bars of “Dixie” on the car horn, I vote we go out screaming like Warren Oates in The Wild Bunch —seems more Outlaw! than good ol’ boys to me.
My wife is very much against a woman president also.
I can’t reason with the woman…
JHo, I said my father said Bachmann is toast. I said, if past performance is indicative of future results, that Newt will step on his lizard.
The truth of the matter is I’ll vote in the primary and in the general.
“I vote we go out screaming like Warren Oates in The Wild Bunch —seems more Outlaw!”
It’ll probably be outlaw like Redford and Newman in Butch Cassidy.
The end of the movie I mean, not the cliff jumping scene.
I don’t know any women who want a woman president. We don’t trust women because we know how we are.
And, if you have to ask what we’re mad about? Just forget it! /jk
So you don’t want a woman president because women are human beings?
Women hate other women almost as much as they hate themselves.
It’s why negging works, and a wedding band is almost as good as a wingman.
When Palin gave her acceptance speech in ’08, I was totally jazzed. My shoulders actually straightened up at the prospect of voting, the first time since Thompson dropped out.
Well, I wasn’t yet married to Mrs. Bascom, so it was a few days before we saw each other. Soon enough she mentioned Palin, all nonchalant like. Joking around, I said she was horrible and the election was doomed and on and on, while the future MrsB smiled and laughed at the appropriate places during the performance.
It wasn’t until I revealed that I was joking, and really thought Palin was a stroke of genius on McCains part that the fight started…
Now I’ve stepped in it.
Double Down!
“Just the tip, honey. I promise I’ll pull right out.”
“And I’ll never try to c— …”
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FWIW, I too was quite moved by Palin’s speech at the convention. I thought she was a fine pick for veep, especially since I have long hated McCain. I thought she injected some youth and vigor into the campaign. However, as time went by and the R’s lost, I got tired of hearing about her and her family. Then she up and quit the governorship. All that has been hashed to death on here so I won’t belabor it further. I stayed far away from a lot of blogs because of her fans and their relentless panting after her. She left them at the altar and they are still trying to get her back. If I never hear another word about her it would be fine with me.
06:30 PM
Race to 2012: Cain talks foreign policy
GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain unveils his foreign policy and national security strategies at Hillsdale College in Michigan.
I prefer this:
I forgot how many decent lines that movie has in it:
So, basically, your entire view of the universe is whatever the left tells you to think?
Why don’t you and ‘feets go form a club somewhere?
Do I wish Palin would have run? Yes. Do I understand why she chose not to? Yes. Do I wish she would have decided not to run sooner? Absolutely. Do I understand why it took her so long? I think I do. Would I vote for her if she got in as an independent/3rd party candidate. Most likely. Even if that meant four more years of Barak Obama? Yes. The conservative movement is a spent force so long as it remains bound to the Republican party.
Amen and amen, Ernst.
The sooner people realize that “Conservative” != “Republican”, the better off we’ll be.
Well, they wouldn’t shut up about her and they wouldn’t let her go about the business of governing Alaska, so she’s dead to me. Totally her fault.
Gosh, Rob! That’s exactly how I think! Not. Happyfeet isn’t part of this conversation, so you can stalk him when he shows up later, m’kay?
Basically, what Ernst said.
I was telling you that Romney isn’t a zealot. Yet. But he will be if he gets the nom.
I caught that when I reread it. Thanks. And I agree with the “yet”.
Sorry to quote myself, but I wanted to add that the Republican party is finished without the conservative movement.
The first faction in this intramural spat to realize those truths get to survive.
Have I told y’all lately that I hate the wimmins? Cause I do.
I like females.
the ones that understand football and the nuances of a 36 drive v a 22 power run.
the ones that understand the beauty of a no hitter and OMG the sheer awesomeness of a perfect game.
the ones that own their own power tools (not their husbands) and think that DIY projects are not best left up to the man cause they might chip a nail.
the ones that think that ‘go out and play and don’t come home til I call’ might come with some broken bones and that petitions for safer parks due to broken bones are just dumb.
the ones that don’t freak out when their husbands and I go out for a quickie and understand that that is the front nine and not a bootie call.
the ones that can think with their heads and not with their hearts.
Very few of those exist. Which is why I have lots of wimmin acquaintances and very few female friends.
Palin is one of few females that I could get behind for president. Bachmann strikes me as a wimmin type and um…yuck.
I wish Jeff all the success in the world pulling Palin by the hair, but I don’t think he’ll succeed. Not on his terms. He might on hers. In which case, I hope it only takes a few months for the swelling to go down.
As Mickey Kaus said the other day: “Psst! Just Asking! Have any of the actual GOP candidates given a speech as good as Sarah Palin’s “crony capitalism” talk in Iowa on September 3? It took a concerted MSM effort to sneer at that one.”
The answer is no. No, they have not.
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/transcript-sarah-palins-iowa-speech
It’s a shame we can’t have someone of Palin’s caliber, but I consider Mitt a big step up from Obama. At least he knows what a foreign policy is.
Nonsense, Sarah. Ace dubbed that the Fizzle in the Drizzle.
So it is written. So it is done.
Well Cain has a foreign policy statement up.
My advice to all the conservatives campaigning for President.
I hope he stays in.
Have I told y’all lately that I hate the wimmins? Cause I do.
You know something Stephanie? You’re like one of the guys.
I think whether he stays in is largely going to depend on whether this latest allegation is true or not.
Palin is one of few females that I could get behind for president. Bachmann strikes me as a wimmin type and um…yuck.
Thanks, Stephanie. That’s it in a nutshell.
I remember you saying before that you hated wimmins. I can relate. I have few female friends and no wimmin friends.
“depend on whether this latest allegation is true or not.”
was cain running as a socon?
Ernst, only if guys have a fatal attraction with strappy little sandals (ignoring the foot fetishists who are sick fucks). I just don’t like today’s version of wimmins. Way too many men have been wimpified by the wimmins and the wimmins have uber wimpified themselves with their own stupidity about equality with men and celebrating their victim status simultaneously. I don’t begrudge any guy their man cave under those circumstances.
Which BTW I’d like to beat the shit out of whoever thought up the newest microsoft commercial with the little kid doing the powerpoint for why he needs a dog and the parents cave and the dad tries a powerpoint for why he needs to play golf on Sundays and the woman dismisses him and he slinks away in defeat. Seriously? Both their asses need a good kickin.
You could just put them up on Break.com and let Google/YouTube suck wind…
I’m having difficulty with what ya’ll mean by wimmin.
Kinda sounds like you’d have to classify Thatcher as one, if I understand correctly.
fizzy in da drizzy yawlz
That’s not the problem. The problem is that if this latest allegation is true, it makes the sexual harrassment allegations more credible (Sure I stepped out on the wife, but no way would I try step out on the mistress!).
Oh, I shoulda refreshed.
“Way too many men have been wimpified by the wimmins and the wimmins have uber wimpified themselves with their own stupidity about equality with men and celebrating their victim status simultaneously”
That doesn’t sound like Bachmann…
I thought Lady Thatcher was handy with shootin’ irons, but I may have her confused with the Queen.
I am rather tiny, blonde and like high heels, as well as nice jewelry. That said, the day the Twin Towers came down, I learned about it because my step-daughter had left a message on the machine since I didn’t pick up because I was repacking the wheel bearings on my F-150. My dad was a builder and I could set and drive a nail in three whacks by the time I was six. All that macho stuff aside, I knit a mean sweater, too.
Ace, singing a different tune, as annoyingly meandering and dismissive as it is.
Well, here ya go:
Bitch is lyin’! is his position now?
“it makes the sexual harrassment allegations more credible ”
where be them babes? greta would be all gloria alred all the time if this sh)t had legs
That doesn’t sound like Bachmann…
Using the Gardasil victim as prop democrat sob story Republicans are meaner than Hitler tactics? That was the moment my ick factor pegged.
Appeals to emotion are a wimmins tool.
Thatcher was most definitely not a wimmins.
Wimmins whinge about equal treatment and scream for help when their tire goes flat. Then bitch at the guy for not responding fast enough and fixing it faster than a NASCAR pit crew then decides that it’s the guys fault the tire went flat AT ALL cause all flat tires are part of vehicles which are men things and should be made to accommodate wimmins and their demands for perfection in all things men. Perfection consisting of men blending into the woodwork but willing to jump to their rescue and disappear again. Kinda like the robots in Asimov’s worlds.
And here I was avoiding Ace all day today because I didn’t want to deal with his take on the Cain thing… and he whips up a little bonus Palin abuse out of nowhere. And it’s so accurate and insightful! Apparently, I only wanted to vote for her because she’s just so gosh-darned cute (and carting around a decent set of titties) — and all along I thought it was because what she was saying came closest to my own thoughts. Who knew?!?
Say what you will, the man’s a giver. As in, “keeps giving me reasons to ignore anything he has to say regarding the GOP primary.”
Ace and most of his writers have a very specific policy, and that is to support candidates that the GOP approves of. I tend to not read the political stuff there any more.
I can bet you that when Romney gets this treatment he will be calling foul all over the place. And you can bet Romney will get it.
oh. She’s lying about Herman crawlin’ on top of her and doin’ his business.
I’m so freaking gullible man she really had me going.
I’d like to see Ace get a little of it myself. Call it karma. Call it bitchiness, but the dud’s got it coming. I’d put him firmly in the wimmins category myself. He cloaks his ‘arguments’ in appeals to reason but they are usually thinly wrapped around an appeal to emotion. I show up when he’s usually about to go ballistic just to help him dig the hole a little deeper. Bitch, why yes, I can be. I hates the manginas something fierce.
Most of the females over there have left in disgust and the wimmins left make me puke. The ONT used to be a thing of beauty, now it’s estrogen overload… the wimmins and the himmins. Barf.
Genifer had tape recordings. So did Linda. Monica had the blue dress. What does this woman have?
Have a safe trip Mr. Cain, we got 6 inches of heavy white stuff this evening, Hillsdale is not that far away from me.
Only in the general, after the conservatives are all snuffed.
she got nuffin cause she just a lyin’ chippie
Herman put his thingie in me!
Bullshit, chippie. You just made that shit up.
Certainly, geoffb. They won’t start in on Romney until he is the nominee.
How many times has he posted the phrase “I was wrong.”? Lots, and not just about little stuff. That’s all you need to know, I think.
Delivering campaign signs.
No! That could never happen. Nosiree, not in David Axelrod’s America.
Is all of Bachmann’s campaign staff on their periods at the same time? GAAAAH. Loookie it’s moving trucks let’s jump to conclusions and emote some Winning at the expense of the Cain Train!
Glee that unfulfilled is like an Erica Kane autobiography.
Ginger lawyers up.
AlfonZo Rachel
I’m not, Zo. But I’ve been told by my realistic, politically astute betters who privilege accomplishment and intelligence (see Perry, Rick; Castle, Mike) over personality cults and wild-eyed hysterical shrieky craziness (see Cain, Herman; Palin, Sarah; Bachmann, Michele; O’Donnell, Christine; Angle, Sharon) of the kind I’m famous for endorsing, that by not letting the left do it I’m showing them just how unserious and extremist I am. A True Believer stoked on OUTRAGE who sees “spin” where there is only good ol’ fashioned mainstream media truths about our candidates (unless it’s Rick Perry. In which case it’s ALL LIES!).
Allowing the left do this shows you to be reasoned and sensible and able to battle them on their grounds, on their terms, so that you are prepared for the cold hard realities of DC. Which is evidently the hand dealt us by fate, and to fight it is as moronic as trying to fight fate itself. Fate can’t be fought — not even for the gods.
So, then. Don’t you love your country? Then how about getting with the program? Why don’t you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?
I think Ace is going to be too busy alternately imploring the right to support Romney and castigating the Right for not supporting Romney sufficiently to have much energy left for dealing with the Left’s chica
nerygoery myself. Guess that’s why he needs co-bloggers.I’m just dumb enough that I wouldn’t know how to love another country, this being the only one I’ve ever known as my own. The thought makes me marvel at actual ex-patriots who’ve suffered an unavoidable loss of their own countries (fleeing fascism or communism, say) and are forced to live in a strange land. And marvel all the more that my own can so easily be lost to its own undoing, to disappear altogether, with no one having to journey anywhere and with everyone to be orphaned by ideology, since it truly was an idea and not a blooded-soil.
Call me crazy, but I think some of those betters love their own reputations as realistic, politically astute opinion shapers more than either their team or their country. Or at least they’re co-mingling personal and common goods like Jon Corzine mingled corporate and client monies.
“Conservative” ? “Republican”, the better off we’ll be.
Which means that all Classical Liberals are RINOS?
WooHoo!
He cloaks his ‘arguments’ in appeals to reason but they are usually thinly wrapped around an appeal to emotion.
Ace fears mockery from Teh Smart People, so his appeals to “reason” are really attempts to defend his caving to Teh Smart People’s opinion.
In other words, he often wants to serve God without offending the Devil.
Which is what the “No man can serve two masters” scripture addressed.
That said, Ace often makes really, really good arguments (if a bit meandering) that are quotable here and there.
Cain at Hillsdale.
That sounds awfully judgey. What’s the harm in admiring a little toe cleavage?
Naw. Ace will find some dead-certain-to-win Congressman and post creepy gay love poems to him.
Ace lusts for a job with a campaign — he’s made that clear multiple times in the past — and so kow tows to the establishment candidates (who would be able to waste money on a “new media consultant”). Perhaps his hatred of Palin stems from the way she shows a mastery of the media he considers his strength? Her campaign wouldn’t need him — they either already have someone better, or the candidate naturally Gets It.
I have heard a rumor that Ace has started sporting a ponytail and is learning jazz guitar.
C’mon Darth, Ace isn’t that far gone.
Ace’s schtick is primarily comedic, which isn’t the stated objective of campaigns.
t, only if guys have a fatal attraction with strappy little sandals (ignoring the foot fetishists who are sick fucks). I just don’t like today’s version of wimmins. Way too many men have been wimpified by the wimmins and the wimmins have uber wimpified themselves with their own stupidity about equality with men and celebrating their victim status simultaneously. I don’t be
Honestly, I don’t know if I like men either. I don’t like silly women and less than silly men.
They can all be lumped together.
Men can be equally annoying as women – just in a different way. Metrosexual, manchildren for example.
I suppose what I’m saying is that I have a “type” I prefer as friends, not a gender.
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have heard a rumor that Ace has started sporting a ponytail and is learning jazz guitar.
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that’s low.
that’s low.
But Awesome!
I have a type I prefer, too. Secure guys and girls that don’t swoon over indelicacies and get the vapors if you tell it like it is. I don’t like smarmy and wimmins and himmins are smarmy wankers that make my skin crawl. I have several gay friends that are not smarmy or metro at all. They love sports (don’t play em but love em) and hate the fems, are conservative and other than outing themselves, you would never know. Them I hang with. And the guys I hang with have no issues with them, either. One of my gay friends is a direct descendant of a very famous football coach. So famous a coach that he has a football field and a college award named after him and football players strike the ‘pose’ when they score. He runs a helluva football pool and baseball fantasy league. Go figure.