Palin, on facebook:
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First, we need to get serious about our deficit. No more accounting gimmicks. No more cuts in “out-years” that never materialize. The permanent political class in D.C. might be fooling themselves with these Enron-like accounting games, but they’re not fooling the world’s capital markets. And we don’t need any more happy talk from the White House about “investing” in solar shingles and really fast trains. The White House shouldn’t even bother floating these new spending programs. We can’t afford them. Period. We need to stop this deficit spending, balance our budget, repeal Obamacare, cancel all unused stimulus funds, and reform our entitlement programs. We have to have an adult conversation about our spending commitments; circumstances have changed, and we must adapt. I know none of this will be easy, but, “thick” or not, the average American outside the D.C. politico bubble knows that we no longer have a choice! We will have entitlement reform and a balanced budget; it’s just a matter of how. We can do it ourselves in a calm, methodical, and responsible manner, or we can wait for the world’s capital markets to ram it down on us. Let’s be responsible and do it ourselves. And let’s get serious about reducing the size of government across the board and rooting out waste. How many more reports (that today are destined to merely gather dust on the shelf) do we need about duplicative and unnecessary programs before we actually do something about government waste?
We need to get this economy moving again, and the real stimulus we’ve been waiting for is domestic energy development. We must reduce our dangerous dependence on foreign oil by responsibly developing natural resources here. This will provide good paying jobs, reduce our trade deficit, increase federal and state revenue, ensure environmental standards, and actually stimulate our economy without incurring any debt. That’s real stimulus! Affordable, plentiful, and secure energy is the foundation of every thriving economy. Let’s make it the foundation of ours. Let’s do the opposite of President Obama’s manipulation of U.S. energy supplies. Let’s drill here, build refineries, and stop kowtowing to foreign countries in asking them to ramp up energy production which makes us even more beholden to them as we rely on their foreign product. Let’s move on tapping our massive domestic natural gas reserves. Natural gas is the perfect “bridge fuel” to a future when more renewable sources are available. It’s clean, it’s green, and we’ve got a lot of it. Let’s drill. Let’s build an infrastructure for natural gas cars and power plants. Energy development can help kick start our economic engine.
In addition to energy security, I embrace a pro-growth agenda that can make American corporations far more competitive on the global stage. (I will be writing more about this in the coming days.) We need to tell the world, “America is open for business again!” And let’s welcome industry by reducing burdensome regulations. The Obama administration keeps strangling businesses in red tape. From the EPA’s rulings to that nightmare known as Obamacare, the Obama administration is hanging one regulatory albatross after another around the private sector’s neck. Let’s get government out of the way and give the private sector room to breathe, grow, and thrive. We can provide businesses confidence to expand and hire Americans in a stable environment.
Be wary of the efforts President Obama makes to “fix” the debt problem. The more he tries to “fix” things, the worse they get because his “solutions” always involve spending more, taxing more, growing government, and increasing debt. This debt problem is the greatest challenge facing our country today. Obviously, President Obama doesn’t have a plan or even a notion of how to deal with it. His press conference today was just a rehash of his old talking points and finger-pointing. That’s why he can’t be re-elected in 2012.
Our economic news is disheartening and the task before us can seem daunting, but we must not lose our sense of optimism. People look around today and may see only the negative. They see a culture and a nation in decline, but that’s not who we are! America must regain its optimistic pioneering spirit again. Our founders declared that “we were born the heirs of freedom.” We are the heirs of those who froze with Washington at Valley Forge, who held the line at Gettysburg, who freed the slaves, carved a nation out of the wilderness, and allowed reward for work ethic. We are the sons and daughters of that Greatest Generation who stormed the beaches of Normandy, raised the flag at Iwo Jima, and made America the strongest and most prosperous nation in the history of mankind. By God, we will not squander what has been given us!
Our destiny is still in our own hands if we pick ourselves up and act responsibly and quickly. We must all get involved. Concerned Americans must seek truth, work harder than ever, and be willing to sacrifice today to ensure freedom tomorrow. Please get engaged in 2012 electoral politics and support experienced, vetted, pro-free market fiscal conservatives who will dedicate all to preserving our Republic and protecting our Constitution.
It ain’t Harvard. But then it ain’t arrogant, condescending, and flat-out wrong, either.
So she’s got that going for her.
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related: In just 4 days last week, Pres. Obama’s administration increased the national debt by more in inflation-adjusted dollars than the administrations of Presidents Harry Truman and Dwight D. Eisenhower increased the national debt over the entire decade of the 1950s.
Yeah, looks more like Princeton to me.
She has no Ivy League degree nor does she live inside the I-495 beltway, so she obviously can’t know what she is talking about.
“In just 4 days last week, Pres. Obama’s administration increased the national debt ”
don’t box yourself in. its still early in the month.
optimism is gay
In addition to being a prerequisite you mean? Well yeah, it is. That’s why P. Ryan is gay, and Mitch Daniels too. Not too late they cry! And me, I’m as giddily gay as the doleful day is long. Not dead yet, that’s my motto.
Washington was at Valley Forge? That can’t be right, if a snowbilly hoochie said it. She’s dumb, I heard it on TV.
(Sadly, that’s the thought process a lot on the left engage in.)
i think mitchy’s gay but mr. mourdock is going to kick lugar’s butt
…so long as we’re gaying it up in here… (NTTAWWT)
it’s sillytalk I say
the hole is deep the seed corn is squandered a blight stalks the land
our tomorrows are not made of the happy happy gack gack stuff of poor dead reagan’s america of yesteryear
our tomorrows are long years of penance and worry and consternation and sobriety
stoic as vikings we must be and assiduous as pilgrims and humorless as amish before our childrens’ children can perhaps taste of this “optimism” of which you speak
the lean years they are upon us and we are become but a painted ship on a painted ocean
mired
Most of the Amish folk I’ve known are pretty cheery people, in addition to having a sense of humor to go with their hard-working ways. Certainly nothing like grim or anything of the sort. Vikings were hedonists, so far as they look from here, so not so much stoical at all. Sompin’s gang agley
Sarah ain’t no hoochee. That’s for damned sure.
“stoic as vikings we must be and assiduous as pilgrims and humorless as amish before our childrens’ children can perhaps taste of this “optimism” of which you speak”
oh f$$k that let’s just get rid of the jug eared idjiot next year
I like this Palin person.
No fate but what we make.
Sarah Palin/Sarah Conner 2012.
We need Ripley and Hicks, not Hudson and Burke.
pickles
and how to profitably exit from them
Even Hudson pulled it out, in the end…when it most counted. Burke was just a narcisist, and plain bad. There’s a lesson in there somewhere about human nature.
Thing is, if everyone had listened to Hudson all along the way, there wouldn’t have come that end. They’d all have been done much sooner.
Friggin Awesome…She certainly fired that mutha up but good.
Must be racist; Chris Tingle told me so.
I’ll grant you that, sdferr. He wasn’t bad, just weak and wrong.
To be sure, I hadn’t meant to imply he was malicious, just a quintessential giver-upper.
DeMint is on with Steyn (substituting for Hannity)
“mired””
‘feets you’ve been exactly that way too long in California. That State used to be seen as where the future of America was beta tested. No more. Hie thee back to Texas (and some others) where the future is being made now.
I’m Eeyore in real life but you make me out as Piglet at times.
geoffb,
i’d say you’re more like the wie old owl;-)
I would love to Mr. geoff but I have entanglements just right now. And I kinda wanna stay and see how this Los Angeles thing ends. But it’s definitely not forever I hope.
Don’t stay until it becomes London.
‘feets likes his peas in porridge pot
How’s New England Danger?
Here at the Cape it rained all day but I hope for better weather tomorrow.
that would be “wise” old owl if I wasn’t typing on my phone
worse comes to worse I live just a few blocks from work, a storage place, and an airport with a couple southwest gates
and thank god I never bought a place
I need to buy a rifle. I have my father’s old Browning semi-auto pistol, but it’s more a keepsake, an antique from the Korean War era.
On the plus side, I had my eyes fixed with Lasik, and I’ve been studying how to defend myself. Plus, if push comes to shove, I think I can probably tear off a hunk of cow with my hands.
geoff,
It’s hot like FL, I did get to meet Pablo in RI and plan on getting together with Abe and maybe BJTex before heading home.
Hope the wx improves for the rest of your stay.
Yeah but that cow would bite yoooouu!!!
Rifle is definately the way to go
Jeff,
Link to Colorado clubs affiliated with the Civilian Marksmanship Program. You can get an M1 Garand through the CMP for a very small cost by working through an affiliate club.
Thanks, RTO!
What sorta rifle you looking for, Jeff?
I might finally get an AR-15. I’ve been debating it.
I haven’t a clue. a fine scotch made some recommendations, but others of you are welcome to chime in. I think I want a rifle and maybe a shotgun, too, which i-ma saw off and go all street by sewing a holster for it into one of my jackets.
I like AR-15s. Very modifiable, common round type, handles well for not super shooters (ie: myself).
My favorite rifles are from family. 30-30 lever action, open sight. 303 British, scoped.
It’s smart and practical to get something with a cheap and common bullet if you’re buying something new, I’d say.
In fact, I like the AR-15 (M-16) better than the M-4 carbine. Personal preference, you milage may vary…it’s just more comfortable for my body size. The carbine is a little too compact for my taste…I seem to have more trouble with getting a good sight picture on it.
Oh … someone want to make a recommendation on what a 57 y/o woman with good (Lasek) eyesight, steady hands and no compunctions about shooting an imminent threat should start with? Rifle, hand gun?
Buffy did damn well with a crossbow and a bit of repartee I thought
Shotguns, I’m looking at something like either a Mossberg tactical or this Serbu super shorty. The Ithaca 37 is something I’m considering, too.
Rifle is (in my utterly amature opinion) easier to learn to get a good sight picture, and generally more stable for new shooters (according to my very unscientific anecdotal evidence). Plus, it gives you more range and accuracy.
I’ll grant that there are those who say pistol is easier, but they tend to be more experienced shooters. Recoil tends to be more of a factor with pistols. Of course all this is highly contingent on the exact gun you’re looking at.
Do you have a range you can go to and try different options, Darleen?
It’d give you a chance to see what fits in your hand and then worked best while shooting.
That Serbu looks interesting, nice and compact. The 3 shell capacity might be a liabilty, however…depends, I suppose.
What do you guys think of this rifle? Or should I stick with something like a slide lever Winchester?
that’s $1250
that’s not value that’s a trip for two somewhere nice
To tell you the truth, I don’t even know what my 12 gauge is. Pretty sure I cleaned it last winter but that’s about it.
The 3 shell capacity is, in my opinion, offset by the fact that I can probably conceal it pretty well.
Supposedly packs a helluva punch. On the Mossberg, I like the pistol grip, which should make it good for shooting right from the hip if needs be.
hf
I never got to handle a cross bow, but I was pretty damned good in archery during my scouting years.
My dad taught me how to handle a knife, some basic self-defense and how to throw a punch.
My ex-bro-in-law — first office in Merchant Marine — into guns because he had to. For fun when visiting handed me a very nice pellet pistol and pointed to a target he and my then husband set up across the yard (as they drank beer and plunked at it) .. told me how to sight it, then leaned back with a grin
I put several pellets in the middle ring of the target. The look on their faces.
I keep thinking about a hand gun and some training, but haven’t figured out what.
I think I’d avoid a pistol grip shotgun. Put the butt on your shoulder and then put the pellets exactly where you want them.
Besides, that would probably just break my wrist.
“What do you guys think of this rifle?”
during a riot i’d go for a hand gun. drop ’em and move.
archery I think of Geena Davis, which makes me sad cause even though she’s an obnoxious dirty socialist I feel like her career got screwed cause her third husband was a cheesy scandi whose reach as a director far far far exceeded his grasp
But if nothing else Beetlejuice should count for something even today I think. Plus she won a shiny statue thingy.
She deserves better.
If you want power, how about a handgun chambered to take .410 shotgun shells? The Judge.
I have an SKS that takes tasty big assed cartridges (7.62). Put a nice hole right through a baddie and take out a couple more. My dad bought it for me when Clinton did the outlaw thang. Bought one for each kid as a matter of saying Fuck you to the Clinton asshole. He really enjoyed spending that bit of dough.
oh but Darleen if you want a handgun just get anything expensive and german you really can’t go wrong is my understanding
bh
There is actually a fairly extensive shoot range in my area – offers NRA/DOJ classes in everything from shotguns to handguns
I just don’t know about if I can try before I buy something. Must check into it.
On the Mossberg, I like the pistol grip, which should make it good for shooting right from the hip if needs be.
That might break even your manly man wrist Jeff. And anyways, you have no muzzle control.
Always fire from the shoulder.
True that, Ernst. Well aimed shots are always betterr than spray and pray, unless you’re simply trying to supress.
I’d think about a black powder shotgun too. If the shit really hits the fan, brass is going to get scarce. Hell, that polymer coated steel-cased shit imported from the former Eastern block is going to get scarce. A 12 gauge black powder shotgun could double as a musket.
Darleen, a sizable range will usually have weapons for rent.
Shotgun and a pistol for close self-defense. Long gun if you plan on hunting.
I strongly suspect – mind you this is just from keeping my ear to the ground – but I strongly suspect you’d be better off putting $1250 into a nicely-battered solid consumer non-cyclical or a beaten-up profit-making dividend payer.
These are the tools that keep bad people and malicious deer animals from stealing your rational equity buys, ‘feets.
A hedge, if you will.
my understanding was there would be no shooting
The Clash – London’s Burning
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I mean – just following a certain logic – if there’s to be shooting it won’t be in california or Texas it’ll be in those odd purplish places of these united whatnots… like … Colorado for example.
collected mounds of rubble
if you’re at the collecting mounds of rubble stage… dude – just give it the fuck up
game over
“odd purplish places of these united whatnots”
see wisconsin tomorrow cupcake
If I had to guess, there’ll be no shooting within miles and miles of me. Because we’re all armed. With rifles and shotguns and handguns, oh my.
Those crazy riotin’ kids in the UK?
Wouldn’t happen around here. Just wouldn’t happen. It would stop seeming fun to them the second they looked up and saw barrels pointing out the second floor windows of all the houses on the block.
It’s gonna happen where most good people don’t have guns.
If it happens anywhere my money’s on LA.
If you’d gone to that Walmart with me you’d know what I mean…
That’s place isn’t America it’s… other.
And following a different logic, the amount of shooting in L.A. will depend on how fast the Mexican
armydrug lords move in to restore order.I’m way more worried about the piggy piggy LAPD union whores
They’ll be out in the exurbs or wherever it is that L.A. cops live defending theirs and their neighbors.
The ones who haven’t worked out sweet home security gigs for the richy-rich types, anyways.
That Bushmaster is nice, but it’s like getting a Maserati for your fist car. Find something cheap and reliable to start with (especially if this is a hobby idea that goes nowhere like so many of mine do). Then you can either trick it out or move up. Just my opinion.
For myself, I have an M4, Panther Arms and a Beretta 9MM, both expressly with the intent of practicing with as near my service weapons as I can. Someday, I’ll get something that I really want. Push/shove, however, both are extremely serviceable in an emergency.
I should be writing a report for a client, but I fear I feel the need to bloviate. No really, I think I’m about to do the prolix thing. Apologies in advance to all.
Happy, I’ve read of your enmity for Gov. Palin. I think I understand, although I admit sometimes your vitriol surprises me. But no matter, it affects not my high opinion of you. I’m interested to explain what I think is happening. Your comment about optimism being gay made me wish to do so. I recognize I’ve no credentials to underwrite the scope of my conjectures, so YMMV.
First, as I think I’ve mentioned before, I still hold that we are in the midst of a cultural revolution the scope of which is comparable to the agricultural revolution. I think it started with the mass adoption of the internet and it continues to play out with the final outcomes still unrealized and perhaps still unknowable. I shall not let that stop me from sharing my speculations.
I met a very prominent futurist a few years ago that suggested to me there are four categories of vision of the future. Being an elder futurist, he felt this was likely an exhaustive list. He drew little Cartesian graphs that described each. He called the categories ‘continuation’, ‘collapse’, ‘discipline’, and ‘transformation’. Continuation had a little logarithmic curve going upward – things will continue as they are. Collapse had a bell curve – everything falls apart. Discipline had the upward logarithmic curve followed by a horizontal line – we don’t think things can continue to grow indefinitely, and we don’t want them to fall apart so let’s sustain things as they are. Transformation had the logarithmic curve again coming to an abrupt halt at the top followed by an identical curve at a higher y value marked with a dotted line – the context changes and the problems are obviated in favor of new unrealized problems.
A few years before that, I read Thomas Kuhn’s “Structure of Scientific Revolution”. His thesis, as I understand it, is that the then (1958 maybe?) conventional notion of how science evolves was fundamentally wrong. That notion suggested that as science went about doing its business, it would occasionally encounter anomalous observational data. When this happened, the working model of the discipline would be adjusted to accommodate the new data and move on. The model in each discipline thus improves in a steady and accretive manner.
Not so, says Kuhn. He maintains that the reigning model in any discipline resists anomalous data. If it doesn’t conform, it is swept under the rug. This is because 95% of scientists are engaged in the task of solving the remaining puzzles within the reigning paradigm; their jobs are imperiled by a paradigm shift. So the data builds up under the rug until the pressure is too great to contain and everything goes poof. When the dust clears, a new paradigm has asserted itself, ideally.
It turns out, Kuhn writes, that it takes about 20 years for a paradigm shift to play out. This is because the avatars of the outgoing paradigm have to retire or die. Lavoisier’s mentor went to his deathbed rejecting his student’s revolutionary discovery.
In attempting to connect these ideas, I was also put in mind of the philosopher Ken Wilber. Two of his ideas seemed key to me. One is that evolution is both transcendental and inclusive. The other is that each evolutionary fulcrum comprises three subphases; fusion, dissolution, and integration. First the new paradigm is defined in terms of the old; there is no clear demarcation, the two are fused. Then the new paradigm rejects the old in order to assert itself as an independent idea. Finally, the new and old paradigms are integrated.
Wilber uses the newborn as an example. At first the newborn cannot differentiate its thumb from the blanket. The baby and the world around it are fused. Eventually, the baby realizes it feels different when biting the thumb than when biting the blanket. Finally, the infant recognizes that it can manipulate the blanket.
Let me attempt to synthesize. I think the futurists categories actually represent a temporal process. When a new paradigm is made paramount, people are generally optimistic about it and they can’t help but imagine the paradigm continuing to improve their lives. Eventually, people notice the problems inherent to the paradigm and they point them out ever more loudly over time. They can’t be productive with their criticisms however, as there is as of yet no new paradigm. The common Einstein paraphrase about problems not being solved with the thinking that created them is instructive I think. Those that aver there are problems with the paradigm have only at this point to rage against the machine and declaim its demise. With enough of this, some helpful wag inevitably suggests a kind of evolutionary detente. Enter sustainability. Finally, the new paradigm is articulated clearly enough to be metabolized by a critical mass of people.
I think this might Jeff’s suggestion that the post-modern critique is not prescriptive. The paradigm that is shifting is epistemic I think. The enlightenment paradigm is reaching a point of diminishing returns. It still remains the most profoundly valuable epistemic paradigm available, I believe, but it has its significant problems. I think the ‘collapse’ vision of the future is what describes the lingustic turn and other academic attacks on the enlightenment. On the timeline, the new paradigm hasn’t emerged and doesn’t until Wilber’s second subphase of the evolutionary fulcrum, which happens almost precisely at the end of the reign of the outgoing paradigm when a ‘transformation’ vision of the future generally obtains.
Now Kuhn was talking science and I think culture, being less rigorous and formal than science, suggests that inasmuch as Kuhnian dynamics might play out in cultural evolution, it would be, y’know, different. For one thing, I think the outcome is less certain. Science always manages to get its new model it seems. Culture is more often making retrograde motions. I think that’s a rather important point.
What’s the new paradigm? I don’t know, but my guess is that it has something to do with first order logic. I think that when we say we know something, we’re constrained by non-contradiction and the law of the excluded middle. We live in a bivalent epistemic paradigm. I suspect that’s the source of much of the trouble. I’m partial to things like fuzzy logic, but I sort of think perhaps that approach is still new paradigm defining itself in terms of the old. I’m also interested in what Stephen Wolfram has to say about the way science is changing, specifically his notions about the death of model-making. I wonder if that might not form part of the rabbit hole that will reveal the new paradigm.
It is interesting to me that this analysis suggests that there are really exceedingly few actual progressives, which is to say people that are promoting a genuinely novel paradigm. The nominal progressive is really just a conservative inasmuch as they wish to maintain a perverse inversion of the enlightenment paradigm. It’s like bizzaro enlightenment; Jeff’s “up is down” riffs. They don’t want to progress at all, and they provide rhetorical cover for people that merely seek power. So we’re all of us conservatives – some of whom cleave to the original formulation of the enlightenment, and some that promote bizzaro enlightenment.
I think the bizzaro conservatives are a necessary component of the paradigm shift. I just think that unlike science, culture has to enfranchise them into the new paradigm before they can burn down the old one. Which is why I think it can ultimately go down like the American or the French revolutions. Either the new paradigm is able to assert itself and enfranchise the rabble, or the Jacobins will guillotine everyone. Obama is like Robespierre. Perhaps Gingrich is Louis XVI and McCain is Jacques-Pierre Brissot. Perhaps Romney is Charles de Calonne. The point is, the Jacobins are storming the Bastille (quite literally in London at present.) Where are our bloody Madisons, Hamiltons, and Jeffersons? Could perhaps Palin be at least Adams if not Hamilton?
So I like Gov. Palin because I think she represents what is best about the enlightenment paradigm generally when she evinces optimism. The enlightenment is still the best we have and until its superior has been revealed, we’re right to maintain it. It still works albeit not with the same exciting futures it portended say a hundred years ago. Going back to Wilber’s admonition that evolution is both transcendental and inclusive, I think that what is best about the enlightenment must be preserved. This is what Hamilton did for us. He preserved valuable institutions from the British model. He helped to prevent those institutions from being swept out with the revolution.
Finally, every revolution has a technological lynch-pin. The technology that create the agricultural revolution was the plow. Couldn’t have happened without it. I believe the republican democracy was the technology that created the American revolution. Interchangeable parts and assembly lines were the technology that created the industrial revolution. I think that the internet is the technological catalyst for what is happening now. I think Palin, or whomever else would be the Republican nominee would do well to metabolize that notion.
But happy, I don’t think you need to hate her because she’s merely a part of the paradigmatic process. She sort of has to happen I think. I don’t think she’s the avatar of the new paradigm, but it’s not completely clear what that is yet, and until then, do you want to hand power to the Charles de Calonne or Pierre Brissot? Palin seems to me a kind and thoughtful person with a not-inconsiderable amount of charisma. So what she’s not some smug pedant. Washington himself was no great writer or orator; it was Hamilton that wrote his communiques and even his inaugural address. Washington was merely a great leader. Perhaps Palin is Washington. Perhaps Jeff ought to become her aide de camp.
Anyway, prolix off. With apologies again to all (especially Jeff – sorry to contribute noise to the signal.)
Now such a humanity. Nike Lunar Landlord posts,
A gun isn’t the worst idea.
I think this will hurt Palin’s chances with her social con/ Mama grizzly base: http://www.theonion.com/
On the other hand, if true, we will have to re-examine HappyFeet’s views.
The day will never come where you can watch your armory actually shrinking just because some dickhead is on TV lying to everybody.
Palin is a shallow pretender to a coloring book americanism what she fancies is profoundly reaganesque but it’s just schtick. She’s to politics what Kate Gosselin is to motherhood. A cartoon.
The paradigm shift we’ve seen I think is that the presidency has become woefully cheapened and celebrified. Obama never ever should have been president cause he’s a shallow cumquat, and a wholly contrived cumquat to boot. Palin isn’t cut from substantially different cloth.
There’s no danger of her ever being president anymore I think though. She’s jumped the shark. But that she was ever elevated to “of presidential caliber” did much damage I think. But there’s nothing for it that I can see.
I guess if Perry can run a substantive campaign based on ideas and a record and tamp down his instinct for pandering douchey identity politics I’ve a slim hope he can shift our politics away from pop star fanclubbery and back to something recognizably American.
But I don’t know. America is such a mess, and what we’ve learned about ourselves in the last 5 years or so isn’t very flattering.
:::sigh::
hf, you really need to do something about your women issues.
Darleen that’s no different than chalking criticism of the shallow cunt we presently have in our white house to racism I think.
Pablo has it right. Shotguns and rifles are good all around tools. Pistols are more of a last line of defense, a better than nothing convenience.
If you can only afford one, get a rifle. Something a little more handy than a hunting rifle would be advisable. If you are never going to leave the city, a shotgun.
And lots of ammo.
hf
well, maybe I should have clarified … women with god-cooties issues. You have never given credit to Palin or Bachmann or even Ingraham, if to judge by your own statements earlier, for having one sincere belief at all.
And you also shove Perry in the same boat …
or maybe your problem is with the god-cooties first and uppity women second.
Jeff,
One of these Marlin 30-30 lever guns is a great choice; the ammo is cheap, plentiful, and you’ll have enough gun for nearly every critter you’ll encounter in N America. They are very light, take 6 in the mag and 1 up the spout, and if you get an old one like mine, they haven’t got the stupid cross-bolt safety.
You know, that’s a very strong piece Palin has offered, and I don’t see you arguing with a syllable of what she said. Angst and distaste aren’t terribly useful.
pablo, a shotgun can be used for hunting if you make sure one of the barrels you get with it doesn’t have a choke so it will handle slugs. My late grandfather hunted the woods of Arkansas for deer with one all his life.
Only issue for ladies is the recoil. You don’t have to have a 12 gauge to be effective there — 16 or 20 gauge work just fine for defense with fewer recoil issues. Deer hunting less so.
She sort of has to happen I think.
In retrospect I think this is right. But in the sense that Team R needed an analog to Obama to explore adopting that model. My sense is they’ve rejected it, and I suspect Bachmann’s popularity is in no small part cause she strikes a Palinesque note yet brings an articulate intelligence and substantiveness that Palin lacks.
Yes Darleen I have a problem with the “god-cooties.” You’re not busting me on that I wear it on my little pikachu sleeve. I think for Perry to stand up and lead a church service is exactly NOT what a wannabe president has any business doing and is just plain tacky besides. But Palin doesn’t have god cooties other than the odd pandering she might engage in. She gets high marks from me for eschewing social-con nonsense in favor of for reals tea party issues, and once she’s extricated herself from the presidency trap I think she has a constructive role to play.
WTF? Anyone? Bueller?
I think she’s a good babysitter for the white trash christer bigots what form a substantial part of the Team R base.
Oh, so that piece up there is the work of a good Mommy for dumb fucks. Maybe she could start with babysitting you.
I thought it was mostly more of her usual queen of duh meanderings.
Reads an awful lot like Daniels’ CPAC address to me, at least in the enumeration of the details of our extraction from the fiscal mess we’re in.
Daniels immediately came to my mind as well, sdferr.
Why don’t you point out the really stupid part, ‘feets?
I didn’t say it was stupid I said it was a regurgitation of shit all of us already know.
Jeff,
Be careful on your shotgun mods. The Serbu classifies as an “AOW” because it specifically does not have a butt stock. Barrel lengths less than 18″ with butt stocks are short-barreled shotguns and are heavily regulated by BATF. States are grumpy about SBS, too.
queen of duh
Truths so self-evident that nobody else on our side, ostensibly, thinks they’re worth the bother of pointing out. Silly snowbilly.
If all of us already knew it, we wouldn’t be where we are and we wouldn’t have the White House babbling about a Tea Party downgrade. But God forbid someone get up on a bully pulpit and start preaching the stuff you and I know to be true to everyone who doesn’t know it.
She preaches to the choir and she’s utterly incapable of persuading the unconverted. That’s what it means when your negatives are as ungodly high as hers are.
Hang on, you’re assuming what remains to be proved.
I confess I’ve never been too much in the need of newness for novelty’s sake, at least when it comes to necessary political truth telling. But isn’t simply the nature of the political beast? Unless maybe for someone like Barack Obama, who could care less about the truth of what he says and therefore wouldn’t have any strict requirement of repetition, since he can just make up whatever story he needs at the moment.
I guess the worst example of the problem is the “stump speech”. How awful would it be to work for a campaign and have to listen to it three times a day and two a night? Awful, but probably not as awful as having to give that speech three times a day and two a night.
“But God forbid someone get up on a bully pulpit and start preaching the stuff you and I know to be true to everyone who doesn’t know it.”
that might not be presidential according mr. goldberg:
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I guess. I just don’t think there’s a lot of evidence that she’s an effective evangelist she’s more of a cheerleader.
Worse yet, it’s already been disproved. Her pre-McCain governorship was remarkable (and exceptionally well-approved) because of her ability to get everyone on the same page and getting things done.
I’m not looking for an evangelist, I’m looking for a leader.
Huh.
But with regard to Alaska, her teaching there, such as it was, seems to have been more akin to the proverbial Chinese meal as opposed to having created a population of lifetime converts.
I remember one time we was at a Super Walmart opening – they’d closed down our Walmart and opened up a Super Walmart for to compete with the Super Kmart. It was very exciting all balloons and shiny shiny floors. So there me and my friend T were early on opening day and we passed a huddle of blue-vested walmart workers and the bald-headed middle-aged leader guy was all Nadine why don’t you start us off? Nadine was a not very tall older woman with a bad perm and glasses and she sorta thrusted her hand vaguely upwards and sighed
gimme a doubleya
I loved Nadine and that from that moment on that became my favorite store probably on the whole planet. Which is not to knock Super Kmart that one was pretty awesome too.
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Yeah, well, we’ve already seen where Dyer apparently wasn’t listening.
Thanks, SW!
The electric hamster, on the subject of Palin, is only good for gauging what progressives are thinking. He has already demonstrated a casual and vitriolic dismissal of most of the people we might consider to be good candidates. I don’t see him helping much with that.
Jeff G., I would recommend the AR-15 simply because it’s everywhere, and ammo for it is everywhere. There are many manufacturers, with varying price levels, and a truckload of parts. The downside is that it is not enough gun if you need to hunt larger animals. The M1-Grand would work fine in that role. Otherwise, the other suggestions were good too.
Darleen, you can often rent guns at ranges, and that is what I would do in your case.
Rather than decide what to get, I had (before I sold all my guns for cash to a guy who used to live down the street whose name I cannot recall) a few guns, because I had that luxury. But if I had to get one gun only, I would get a 12 gauge pump. If I was able to get two, and it had to be cost-effective, I would add a bolt-action rifle in .308 (again, because it’s a very common cartridge) or similar caliber, because even an inexpensive one can be damned accurate. Otherwise I might consider a semi-auto, but you need to ask yourself if that is a defense gun or a hunting gun, because when hunting you really don’t need to throw a lot of lead around, but in defense you might. The recoil on a semi-auto, all things being equal, would be less. For a handgun, the 9mm has low recoil, but a 1911 in .45 has the stopping power. The downside is that a good handgun will cost as much or more than a decent rifle. Handguns especially should be rented at a range first, to be sure it fits your hand and you can deal with the recoil to your own satisfaction.
Sorry for the rambling, it’s early for me.
Savage rifles at good prices.
I was trying to link to budsgunshop.com
Jeff, if you are thinking about handguns at all, get something you can dry fire for practice. Glocks are pretty good for this, though I’m sure there are others. I’d also recommend a .22 handgun, because practicing (and teaching) is much, much cheaper with a .22.
So now we’re Christer bigots? Does anyone know why Jeff let him start posting again?
I’m looking at the Mossberg 500 Tactical Persuader, myself, Jeff. From what I’ve been told, you can’t go wrong with a Mossberg shotgun. And Mossberg’s can be tricked out royal. At least the tacticals. Or if you want an AR-15 lookalike, but without the power (also price), you can go out and pick yourself up a Smith & Wesson M&P 22 Tactical :) They are fun guns to shoot.
It’s ok, Matt. It’s more of a woman thing with feets. He’s a huge fan of W, but hates Palin, who actually governed much more conservatively. And he claims to be staunch.
Mr. W was presidential he honored the office and served with grace and humility
I love him very much for that
Palin is a quitty reality tv celeb what has more in common with Ann Coulter than a two-term governor like Mr. W who persevered with such seemingly effortless equanimity
I fear we will not see his like in our little White House for many many moons
We know, happy. There is not a single fucking thing you can say about Palin that we haven’t heard from you a thousand times over. There is not a single fucking thing we can say to make you understand why we disagree with you.
Why not put a fucking sock in it already, and let the grownups get back to discussing ways to save the Republic? Or is such practical thinking so gay that you feel compelled to squeak for the 1,001st time?
pickles!
And whatever choice you make in the weapon category JG, remember: safety first!
http://www.azcentral.com/community/chandler/articles/2011/08/07/20110807cr-penisshot0811.html
you need some moose stew. its comfort food.
I’ll never understand the Palin hate, not just from Chimpokomon but in general. A close friend of mine is very conservative and cannot stand Obama. However, he despises Palin. When I asked him who he’d vote for in an Obama v. Palin election and he said “I don’t know”. I’ve asked him a number of times why he hates Palin so much and he keeps complaining about her being “extreme” but he can’t give me examples. He’s a Rick Perry supporter (as I will be, if he gets into the race), who to my mind is more socially conservative then Palin is. I just don’t get it.
Moose is pretty good stuff, really.
Squid, you’re wasting your time. When the subject is Palin – or any other person running for office – I just go to SOB (scroll on by) because (a) as you said he has nothing new to say (b) I don’t like bigots, and (c) there is never anyone that is pefect except for the person who has clearly announced that he isn’t running.
As Kowalski the Penguin said “It is futile to reason with the unreasonable.” and the electric hamster is unreasonable.
Speaking of quitty:
Fixed!
OI,
Mossbergs are great home defense guns. The Mariner in particular is cool because it doesn’t rust.
My motto is A Gun in Every Room. So I’m never alone. Of course most of them are target 38’s and 22’s but they’ll do the job. I’d love to talk gun collecting with Sarah Palin.
Blech.
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