Talk about federal government overreach…:
Tuesday brought the 18th day that Wisconsin Senate Democrats stayed out of the state to avoid a quorum in a vote for Governor Scott Walker’s budget repair bill which would roll back many public workers unions’ negotiating rights.
Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, a Republican from Juneau, believes the delay is actually a plan by organizers attached to President Barack Obama to get Wisconsin Republican legislators recalled.
“There’s many people that are beginning to believe this is a delay tactic by the Democrats in the Senate so that these recall elections can be organized by the Obama team out of Chicago, which they are, as we start to do the research on the people that have filed the petition,” Fitzgerald told Newsradio 620 WTMJ’s “Wisconsin’s Morning News.”
When asked whether Fitzgerald knew that for a fact, he responded, “The organizer against (River Hills Republican Senator) Alberta Darling definitely has direct links to the Obama camp. There’s no doubt about it. These guys might be out until June. Unfortunately, what they’re trying to do is flip the majority, and I think that’s becoming very evident.”
Agitating to overturn a state election — to beat back democratic republicanism and federalist principles all in a single gambit.
Good men, these. Right, Mr Medved?
Lead, follow, or get out of the way. Dick.
Elections are only fair when Democrats win.
Linked to that this morning. My comparison to Chavez is still on point.
A good man? Hardly. As Ernst responded “ask me again in January, year to be determined.”
I once joked about splitting Wisconsin into thirds, with MN, MI, and IL each getting the part nearest them. I figured IL would get the true-blue bastions of Milwaukee and Madison as training grounds for the Chicago machine, MI would get a bunch more empty land added to the UP (and they’d gain a decent football team, to boot), and MN would add to its collection of good fishing lakes and Rockwellian small towns, and hopefully enough hard-headed rural folks to counteract the People’s Republic of Minneapolis.
I didn’t realize Rahm and friends were listening at the time…
And the MFM continues to not only let them get away with it, but actively aids them. They disgust me, the whole fucking lot of them.
OT but Obama’s justice department has formally requested that expedited stay that Judge Vinson demanded last week. On to the District Court in Atlanta! Which, BTW and contrary to Ace’s assertion, is not moderate, but firmly conservative. They might just really fast track this and move sooner than the project June estimates.
Well, it seems to me that the repub side was chasing this avenue as well, correct? Wasn’t there some noise in the direction of having these absent Dem senators face re-call elections as well?
Imagine the hue and cry if in 2009 and through 2010 Repubs deployed such tactics to subvert and delay the Dem agenda. Hell, the intelligentsia was having fits simply because the Dem senators had to hang together in order to pass the bulk of their legislation. Remember the likes of Friedman decrying the two party system?
I think some voters are, yes. But then, their reps have fled the state, so the circumstances are different.
I thought the point was the White House’s interference in State-level politics. Is there any indication that outside groups are behind the recall efforts in the fleebaggers’ districts?
Oh, wait. I suppose it goes without saying that the Koch Bros. are behind all that. What was I thinking?
Plus, I believe the Rs have a built in bias in favor of winning the recall race to the border. Bh can correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the Ds eligible for recall are in districts that are lighter shades of red as opposed to lighter shades of blue. The Ds will have a tougher row to hoe.
Ain’t no way Obama is involved! Not this close to March Madness.
Why do conservative hate teachers and the middle class?
Don’t forget those evil teabaggers, squid. They are not only funded by Koch, but are lead by Armey.
Hey! An Armey of Kochheads! Tiger bloody goodness and full of Win!
Wait, wait.
So the idea here is that despite those mean ol’ Republicans and their mean ol’ governor winning that majority and all of that, they’re so secretly unpopular especially around the Governor’s campaign promise to do the very thing he’s trying to do …
Somehow if they wait a few months the Democrats will be popular enough to recall them because of ineffectuality caused by the Democrats fleeing the state?
There are so many weird and probably unsupportable assumptions in that “logic” that I find it difficult to believe.
(Of course, since it’s just Fitzgerald’s speculation, I don’t have to believe it, do I?)
Card check… checkmate.
Demint and Coburn plus some more senators for the assist. Lebron James could not be reached for comment.
Anybody else just catch the new commercial on Fox that just crucified the unions and the fleebaggers? It was awesome. A rope in trees – voluntarily insert head regurgitation of their own words in their own voices of awesomeness. Anyone seen it on line? Crossroads produced it.
You’re correct, Steph. Here you go. Note that only the 2008 folks are eligible for recall.
Absolutely, Jeff. The justification couldn’t be more different. As to the folks pounding the pavement, I’m sure the state GOP will kick in some support and there will be a good bit of overlap between the activists and the party regardless but it won’t be out-of-state union thugs or paid workers going door to door on our side, that’s for sure.
Okay, gotta go. The work deluge continues.
Circuit. At the federal level it’s District => Circuit => Supremes. Vinson is a district judge.
That Crossroads ad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaSnDrZNEg8&feature=player_embedded
Watch it, it’s powerful. And deadly. More of a Skunk laying one on the dems than the smug poots they quif. It ain’t gonna wash off.
Well, poo. On to the Circuit Court in Atlanta, then. It’s a pretty building. All white marble… I’m surprised the NAACP hasn’t cried racism.
As a resident of the state of Wisconsin, I was on the receiving end of an odd polling phone call a week ago (about 5 days after the standoff started ).
Question 1: Do you have a favorable or unfavorable view of Gov Scott Walker? Favorable.
Question 2: Do you have a favorable or unfavorable view of the panty-waist dickless wonders that fled the state rather than perform their elected duty? (I’m paraphrasing here). Unfavorable.
Question 3 (or 4): Are you in favor of recall votes for the (I’m getting excited here, YES YES YES my brain is screaming) for the Republican senators who voted for the collective bargaining bill?
[Now I’m thinking, WTF? Dayum! No, you’re asking about a recall for the WRONG PEOPLE. It’s the Dems that need to be recalled as they have ABDICATED completely.]
I replied, no, the repubs do not deserve a recall vote. End of call.
My wife the WI teacher asked what the call was about. “Oh, just asking what I felt about the standoff. Honey. Dearest.”
“People (meaning states across the nation) might start thinking twice about attacking the unions like they have in WI” – The ed show.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41980340#41980340
That isn’t the video I was looking for, but it was revealing.
I can’t find the video now, but Ed had only a handful of the gang of 14 on his show the other night. Miller, Taylor, Larson, and a few others. During much of the segment they kept talking about the recall effort of one of the Republican’s. I think it was Kapanke as the link bh shares eludes to. I suspect that I can’t find the video now because of how embarrassing it is; as it shows the lack of unity amongst the 14. They are so screwed. If they come home they face the inevitability of the vote, the power of the Senate reprimand, and the fury of their base.
Squid posted on 3/9 @ 12:19 pm
Hey now, we have some great people here at the border of IL! Why the H8? ;-)
Seen Barrett Brown lately?
Hey, I’ll still visit Mars Cheese Castle, no matter what state it’s in!
Fair enough. I would lose family if I wished for California to slide into the ocean. I’m not sure, some days, I wouldn’t help push.
The Other McCain on BB.
BB as Anonymous makes this comment very special and not just to me anymore.
geoffb, I think this earlier comment may explain everything.
BB comes across as an attention whore. Whatevs.
Latest:
http://www.wispolitics.com/index.iml?Article=229473
http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?S=14220788
Might break the bill apart and pass all non-finance matters.
We’ll know the answer in about 40 minutes. Mark Belling knows what the deal is but had to promise not to say it publicly until closer to the conference committee opening.
I’ll relay the information when he says what’s up.
Says he’ll give the answer after the commercial break.
I don’t know who “Security News Daily” is but they don’t have a high opinion of the d’bag.
Neither do people on the 4Chan website (from the Security News Daily link).
They’re stripping all non-fiscal aspects of the bill.
The remaining bill will:
1) Take away collective bargaining for benefits and wages.
2) It will end automatic union deductions.
3) Will require a yearly recert vote for public unions.
It’s already drafted. The Senate will take it up tonight. Will go to the Assembly tomorrow.
It’s done.
Typo, they’re stripping all fiscal aspects of the bill per the quorum rules, of course.
We both lose the bet.
Typo, it will take away collective bargaining for benefits and pensions.
Sorry, about a million phone calls are going back and forth right now.
Heh, that we did, Steph. In the most pleasant way possible I suppose. I hope the legal geniuses did their homework on this one. I assume they did.
If Walker can keep it up and keep the Wisconsin Dems on the run in Illinois for 183 days of the year, shouldn’t that make them residents of Illinois instead of Wisconsin? Shouldn’t being residents of another state disqualify an elected official?
Maybe we need to run a countdown for the number of days until the Wisconsin Senate Dems disqualify themselves for their seat?
They’ve been in Illinois for 20-something days now. I’m pretty sure that makes them all eligible to be the Mayor of Chicago.
Conference committee passed it, it’s going to the Senate right now.
“I hope the legal geniuses did their homework on this one. I assume they did.”
When the fleabaggers come running back to protest the legislature can just pass it again. This time with the fiscal cherry on the top.
YAHTZEE!!!