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EXODUS, 2

Indiana House Democrats flee the state. Because democracy is messy, and suddenly reminders that elections have consequences are out of style.

Quick. Somebody call Lindsay Graham and see if he can’t work out a way to help these Democrats save face…

75 Replies to “EXODUS, 2”

  1. newrouter says:

    where do ohio ‘rats flee to?

  2. LTC John says:

    Excellent – The Badger Bugout now has company with the Hoosier Hightail It joining!

    This could not get more “clarifying” than this – where Democrats/progs run into a legislative situation they don’t like they…well, run.

    I hope they do this in Ohio, Tennessee and everywhere else. The commercials are almost filming themselves…

    “We’re your Democratic Party – when the chips are down, we’re GONE!”

    I have heard a couple of smart-alecks referring to the Dems now as the “Flee Party” or “Fleebaggers”. Heh.

  3. newrouter says:

    oh yea ky. that jelly thing makes sense.

  4. LTC John says:

    So…the WI Dems could flee to Indiana, the Indiana Dems to Ohio and the Ohio Dems to WI?

  5. McGehee says:

    Mercy sakes alive, looks like they got them a convoy.

  6. Carin says:

    I think the Mich Dems should flee to Canada.

  7. Spiny Norman says:

    Fleebaggers.

    ROTFLMAO! =^D

  8. rjacobse says:

    This sprightly tune seems apropos:

    Brave Sir Robin ran away.
    Bravely ran away, away!
    When danger reared its ugly head,
    He bravely turned his tail and fled.
    Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
    And gallantly he chickened out.
    Bravely taking to his feet
    He beat a very brave retreat,
    Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!

    He is packing it in and packing it up
    And sneaking away and buggering up
    And chickening out and pissing off home,
    Yes, bravely he is throwing in the sponge.

  9. Carin says:

    Ha ha ha … yea, that’s appropriate.

  10. Entropy says:

    Fucking hillarious.

    A right-to-work movement sweeping many of the states that don’t have it (about 30) would well and truly fuck the dem’s machines in those states – that is, besides being the honest best goddamn thing to do for everyone.

    IN is fairly red, (I can’t believe McCain managed to drop it – that’s actually impressive) it’s 20 minutes away and the object of my Snake Plisken “Escape From Chicago” fantasies. It actually suprises me it isn’t already a right-to-work state… I thought it was.

    WI is an hour and a half away. I always figgured cheeseheads were as innately socialist as Scandisota next door, so I can’t speak to the nature of their political inclinations… but I find some of these claims that the bills they are considering will fundementally change WI politics (and may make it outright red) to be somewhat credible. Certainly possible.

    Besides destroying the political union machinery, they’re talking about requiring ID at the polls and not allowing same day registration. I cannot say. You never know. But I would not be totally shocked if, in the wake of that, the political makeup of WI were found to have drastically changed almost overnight. Heavens knows why.

    Imagine that going on in a number of states! This is some actual real stakes here. Republicans need to die where they stand if they can’t advance. Time to go all in. They are on the damn ropes. Absolutely no retreat on this. Anybody that turns their back to the enemy should fully expect to be shot in the front.

  11. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Another marker that’s been laid down? When Democrats talk about democracy, they mean the same thing that the socialists and communists and all the other collectivist “reformers” mean when they talk about their “democracies”: you get to vote until you get it right, and then you’ll never vote again.

  12. Matt says:

    I honestly can’t recall this kind of thing happening during my political awareness (basically started paying attn to politics at the tail end of Carter). What is end game for them? Do they think they can dodge a vote forever? I see no light at end of the tunnel.

  13. Jeff G. says:

    Matt:

    Why should they worry? The repercussions seem to be that the GOP will rush to compromise after having first met but 60% of their pledge to voters.

  14. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Republicans need to die where they stand if they can’t advance. Time to go all in. They are on the damn ropes. Absolutely no retreat on this. Anybody that turns their back to the enemy should fully expect to be shot in the front.

    Now. Now. Violent rhetoric is uncivil.

  15. Bordo says:

    Serious question: Is there any kind of historical precedent for running away as a political tactic? Or are these guys the first to do it?

    Serious observation: Say what you will about how they’re doing it but at least these guys are forcing the Republicans to own whatever they, the Republicans, do next. You have to at least give the Dems that much.

    Because it seems to me right now that the GOP is still bending over backwards to accommodate their political rivals while the Dems message is “Oh yeah? We fucking dare you.”

  16. LTC John says:

    I would not expect the IN R’s and too a lesser extent, the WI R’s to back down… even the squishes realize if they did, they have set a precedent that would neuter them for all time. It’s one thing to be all McCainy-collegial-Gang of [insert number here] – but when you are left alone in the chamber, to back down…

  17. Ernst Schreiber says:

    The endgame is that by throwing a temper tantrum, they hope the American people will choose the mommy-party over the daddy party. Because mommy wuvs you and will give you tweats and hugs. And daddy is a rage-oholic with impulse control issues.

    Or so the MBM keeps saying.

  18. LTC John says:

    Bordo – the Texas D’s tried running when redistricting came up back in 2003 – The Red River Runaway ? They ran to Oklahoma and stayed in some hotel there for a while. Eventually they came back to flee again the next year to New Mexico. Eventually one D came back and then the impasse broke. The electorate rewarded the D’s courage by reducing them to such a minority in the TX legislature that they can’t break quorum any more…

  19. Bordo says:

    @LTC John – So, as far as you know, this is a pretty modern tactic that’s been employed only by the Dems? I ask because it doesn’t seem to be something that has happened too often in the past.

    Here’s what I’m looking for, though: in the next election, how many Republicans will use this against the Dems who ran in their campaign ads? Or will they refrain under the excuse that to do so would be showing incivility.

  20. bh says:

    This issue will be used in ads next cycle. There is no doubt about it.

    Wisconsin Club for Growth is running ads on this… right now.

  21. Entropy says:

    The article mentions that IN dems did this last in the 90’s, also over a redistricting issue (like TX), however, apparently last time it worked and the GOP backed down.

  22. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Is there any kind of historical precedent for running away as a political tactic?

    Bordo, it’s a freewheeling tactic from the laissez faire nineteenth century –something we thought we had progressed beyond.

  23. LTC John says:

    Of course, we used to have dueling and fist fights and cane beatdowns in the US Congress too…

  24. Bordo says:

    @Ernst – Thanks. Wow. I can’t believe that, apparently, this is some kind of tradition in American politics.

    Actually, I guess I can…

  25. Jeff G. says:

    I’ll be watching Mitch Daniels closely.

    The judicial appointments were already enough to convince me he isn’t the man for the GOP come presidential nomination time. Now I’m hoping he doesn’t get pragmatic here and try to show how he’s more sophisticated — and “willing to work with Democrats” — than Gov Walker.

  26. Ernst Schreiber says:

    cane beatdowns

    We do forget the old ways at our peril, don’t we?

  27. Jeff G. says:

    And look! No “cumslut” trigger!

    Smells like…freedom.

  28. JD says:

    When the going gets tough, the Dems run away. The campaign commercials practically write themselves.

  29. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Hell Jeff, Daniels ought to do the same thing that Walker is starting to intimate is going to happen in Wisconsin.

    If we’re ought of money and we lack the quoroum to appropriate more, I guess we’ll have to shut it down!

  30. LTC John says:

    Ernst – I know where you can get really good brass knuckles and knives – south of the traffic circle, just off the main bazaar street in Charikar, Afghanistan. If Congress goes all free wheeling again, I am opening an import shop in Georgetown.

  31. Ernst Schreiber says:

    ought/out. I ought to be glad the aughts are out.

  32. Jeff G. says:

    When the going gets tough, the Dems run away. The campaign commercials practically write themselves.

    That’s actually very good.

    Also, a variation on the 3 am phone call, where the call is forwarded to a Hooters in Illinois.

  33. Jim in KC says:

    “Trigger?!”

    That’s the name of Roy Rogers’ horse! How uncivil!

  34. Jeff G. says:

    LTC —

    I’d love a pair of brass knuckles. Can you get me some? Seriously? I’m happy to pay.

  35. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I always wanted one of those WWI era trench knives, with the brass knuckle hand guard built into the hilt.

  36. Bacon Ninja says:

    Has anyone else mentioned how great an idea it would be to let all these democrats flee to Illinois and then maybe seal off the border? Sure Illinois would be screwed but the rest of us might be a little better off.

    If we could move the Cardinals to East St. Louis before sealing the border that would be good too.

  37. Entropy says:

    I want an Auto Assault-12 fully automatic .12 shotgun.

    And a .50 Dragunov SVD or Barrett M-82 with night vision scope and a silencer and flash suppressor.

    And an HK-MP5 submachine gun.

    And 3 claymores.

    And 13 ounces of weapons grade plutonium.

    Just in case.

    Also a Predator drone.

    My budget is $500.00.

  38. Jim in KC says:

    Illinois is already screwed, BN. Hell, you either have to drive *around* the state if you have a concealed carry permit, or do a bunch of stupid crap to comply with their insane gun laws.

    Ernst–I saw one of those at an auction this weekend. I’m not sure if it was authentic or a re-creation, but it was pretty cool. Not as cool as the helmet and goggles like Snoopy wears at the same auction, though. I was going to buy those to wear when I use my tractor, but $100 was a bit too much.

  39. Entropy says:

    Also I need something chambered in .338 lapua magnum.

    The .50 cal is kind of overkill really… unless I have to kill a zombie elephant, or a zombie driving an armored jeep…

  40. Entropy says:

    or do a bunch of stupid crap to comply with their insane gun laws.

    There are rules, which on the face seem able to comply with, even if they are quite ridiculous and require you basically disassemble the gun and store it in pieces in seperate locking containers.

    A lot of lawyers and gun owners in IL will tell you, however, that you can’t actually comply with them. No matter what you do. The way the language is written, if the cops WANT to arrest you for illegally transporting a gun, they will.

    I just put my revolver case in the trunk along with the ammo, or in a backpack if I’m on my bike, and drive to the range. I don’t really even pay lip service to trying to comply. Just hope you don’t get pulled over and searched for no good reason, or that if you do, the cop is not a jackass.

  41. Pablo says:

    I’d love a pair of brass knuckles. Can you get me some? Seriously? I’m happy to pay.

    The internets are your friend. brassknucklecompany.com

  42. LTC John says:

    Sorry Jeff – the brass knuckles are a no-go… Customs takes them away. The contraband boards at Bagram AF have a most inspiring collection tacked to them. They are illegal in IL to boot. Now, if you made it to Parwan Province, I’d get you hooked up just right…

    Entropy – I’d have to roust out my contacts with the Iraqi Army 14th Division to see about a Dragunov -that is the IA sniper rifle. The MP-5 is a nifty little piece, but I don’t know any place to get one. The Predator is a bit out of the budget you have, and I think the radioactives might be even moreso (ha!)
    Claymores… I’ll have to pass on that, tho’ in a pinch, I know where plenty are being kept. If they are good anti-zombie weapons, I’ll have to keep an eye on them for future reference.

  43. Jim in KC says:

    A lot of lawyers and gun owners in IL will tell you, however, that you can’t actually comply with them. No matter what you do.

    That’s what it looked like to me. I locked the empty magazines in the truck box. I locked the empty gun in its locked box in my truck box. I locked the ammo in the trailer.

    Everywhere else on the trip, I just carried the damn thing in a holster, cocked and locked. But I’m sure criminals in Illinois understand the rules and let you retrieve all your parts and ammo, put it together and load it, and then resist.

    I ended up going with a 30-06 for long range zombie killing rather than .338 Lapua or .308. I figured with the ballistics being pretty close to a complete wash, availability favored it.

  44. Jim in KC says:

    My favorite thing about Claymores is the stamping that says “This side toward enemy,” or words to that effect. So simple a Wisconsin Democrat could use it!

  45. Blake says:

    Please, superior firepower consists of a .308 over the shoulder and a 1911 on the hip. And the ability to hit what you aim at.

    The second being more important than the first.

  46. Ernst Schreiber says:

    What’s the UCMJ say about contributing to the delinquency of minors?

  47. LTC John says:

    #46 – it pretty much opposes it.

  48. They sell brass knuckles paperweights here during the summer Old Court Days. Seriously mean looking and heavy paperweights too.

    If you can wait until Sept, and if I haven’t gone to jail for acting out the daydream I had when I found out my State rep, who is probably, at least I heard he could be, and so far I’ve seen no evidence one way or the other, and I’d need some real serious proof that he wasn’t, a fucking pedophile rapist. At least, that’s what I’ve heard. I can’t prove it, and since he ran away I’m guessing the sick motherfucker is guilty as sin. Otherwise, why would he run?

    I’m actually shocked at how many pedophile rapists are in state government here in Indiana. Wisconsin, sure, but Indiana?

  49. Entropy says:

    Claymores… I’ll have to pass on that, tho’ in a pinch, I know where plenty are being kept. If they are good anti-zombie weapons

    Umm… rabbit traps.

    Strictly rabbit traps.

  50. Ernst Schreiber says:

    #47 ––Too bad for Jeff and Entropy then.

  51. DarthLevin says:

    So what’s the law on finding these cowardly Democrats, physically hauling them across the state line, and dropping them off to a waiting member of the constabulary? Is it kidnapping, or littering?

  52. Entropy says:

    That’s what it looked like to me. I locked the empty magazines in the truck box. I locked the empty gun in its locked box in my truck box. I locked the ammo in the trailer.

    Like I said, I don’t even bother. Even if you do get pulled over, it’s not so common an occurance for them to search the car without giving them genuine probable cause.

    I like to take my bike out in the summer, and with that, there isn’t much I can do. All I have for storage options is a backpack and my pockets. It has a little storage tray where I keep my sun glasses and such… the gun won’t fit.

    It is kind of a tough question for me… I’ve never been pulled over when I happened to have the gun in the car. If I ever was, I don’t know if the smart move would be to show the cop your FOID and declare you’ve got one locked in the truck, or to just keep your trap shut and not mention it while he writes your ticket.

  53. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Some people think pedophiles deserve to be raped. But for a state representative to be the one to actually do it? Now that’s commitment to public service!

  54. Pablo says:

    Kidnapping, DL. However, if they were to be charged with the Class 1 felony they’re committing, and warrants were issued, that would change the nature of the game significantly, I think.

  55. Entropy says:

    I’m actually shocked at how many pedophile rapists are in state government here

    It kind of makes sense.

    Aren’t pedophile rapists generally massive power-trippers?

  56. Ernst Schreiber says:

    If the warrants are issued, the state parties should offer to put up a bounty for their capture and return.

  57. I knew my kids were gonna get fucked by the unions, I just didn’t realize how soon. Boy, I hope he comes back to clear this all up.

  58. Slartibartfast says:

    I’m voting for 30-06, too, because of the availability thing.

    Just try loading your own shells while the zombie hordes are shambling after you.

  59. Squid says:

    …reminders that elections have consequences are out of style.

    Seriously — how awesome would it be for Walker or Daniels to step in front of the cameras and say “We won” in response to questions? Heck, you could even preface it with “As a great statesman said not-so-long ago…”

  60. Blake says:

    I’m looking forward to Republican Legislators pushing through legislation that gets the absentee Dems to come back.

    Can you imagine the mischief the GOP can do if the GOP works on legislation that only requires a simple majority?

    hahahahahaha

  61. Matt says:

    *My favorite thing about Claymores is the stamping that says “This side toward enemy,” or words to that effect*

    Of course, in WI they’d be fleeing…

  62. DarthLevin says:

    Can you imagine the mischief the GOP can do if the GOP works on legislation that only requires a simple majority?

    Like requiring recipients of public money (i.e. food stamps, state medical cards, etc.) to submit to drug testing as a condition of receiving said funds? They’d be back so fast their Birkenstocks would implode.

  63. geoffb says:

    you get to vote until you get it right, and then you’ll never vote again.

    Isn’t this the way it also works for elections to unionize? At least until “card check” eliminates the need for any election.

  64. Blake says:

    Darth, now that’s an outstanding idea.

    Btw, here in lovely CA, we have a state assemblyman who is trying to set it up so EBT cards cannot be used to buy junk food.

    My thought was “If these people are receiving so much assistance they can afford to buy junk food, how about cutting back their benefits?”

    Yeah, yeah, I know, cutting benefits = raaaaacism and hating poor people.

  65. dicentra says:

    The Dems really do seem to be misreading the American public. Which, I’m not surprised, because they’ve studiously avoided understanding the mouth-breathers for the past 50 years.

    Roger Simon is content to call them “reactionaries”:

    [W]hy has our left become so reactionary, so unwilling or unable to adapt to a changed world that they “act out” with all the juvenility of adolescents deprived of the family car keys? Some say it is because they have replaced religious faith with politics and I, an agnostic, see some truth in that. But there is more. Liberalism has become a mask for greed in our culture — a way of hiding excessive selfishness from others and, importantly, from the self. It’s a deflection, really.

    We see this in the billionaire extremes of a George Soros and a John Kerry, but also now in the demonstrators in the streets of Madison. Many are suffering economically in our country. Huge numbers are unemployed. But when asked to pull together for the good of the mean, the liberals, the ones who pay the greatest lip service to equality, say NO.

    They hide behind “Union! Union! Union!” and “No pasarán!,” but it’s all a fake. When the chips are down, our modern liberals are overcome by their own sense of entitlement. Christopher Lasch’s Culture of Narcissism has infected them to such a degree reality cannot intrude. I get my pension even if there’s no money, even if you have to pay for it and you’re broke without any pension of your own.

    Socialism, my fat fanny! It’s just plain old selfish greed.

    Though I do part ways with the fedora earlier in the article:

    My PJM colleague Richard Pollock thinks much of this was planned from the center. I am not so sure. I think it was a more spontaneous eruption of deeply nostalgic (now reactionary) views, dating, for Wisconsin, from as far back as SDS and the Port Huron Statement through the “glory days” of anti-Vietnam War protests. The president simply jumped on a bandwagon that, unlike the 2009 democracy demonstrations in Tehran, fit his worldview, then jumped off again when it became inconvenient.

    Oh yes, there IS the nostalgia of the glory days of the 1960s, but that doesn’t mean they haven’t been striving to “recreate ’68” for years and years. Which, I’m pretty sure they have. They’re not “community organizers” for nothing.

  66. LBascom says:

    “The .50 cal is kind of overkill really… unless I have to kill a zombie elephant, or a zombie driving an armored jeep…”

    What are ya, some kind of weirdo!?

    When the enemy is cowering behind a block wall, a .50 is exactly what you need.

    Always try and have the right tool for the job.

    Overkill he says. *snort*

  67. Blake says:

    LBascom, I think the new weapon of choice for an enemy behind a block wall is the new XM25 grenade launcher or, “Punisher” as soldiers in Afghanistan are calling it.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/u-s-soldiers-love-the-armys-new-punisher-smart-weapon/

  68. John Bradley says:

    Overheard at the local cupcake boutique: “My, how exceedingly staunch. Way staunchier than… her!”

  69. LBascom says:

    I can see Danials dilemma. It’s hard to negotiate your surrender truce with an advisory that’s running away.

  70. Entropy says:

    That’s what the Lapua magnum is for, LBascom. That tears right through cinderblock.

    .50 cal is really more of an anti-armor and vehicle gun than anti-personel. Not that badass snipers don’t snipe the living hell out of people with them… it’s just that death is so frustratingly binary.

    Unlike in video games, you get points for killing them, sure… but you don’t get any extra points at all for really really killing the shit out of them.

  71. LBascom says:

    “you don’t get any extra points at all for really really killing the shit out of them.”

    Some things are priceless.

  72. Stephanie says:

    http://minx.cc/?post=312395

    Epic Fail.

    I was afraid of this. If your first response to thugs cutting off their own fingers is to offer your leg instead…

  73. Stephanie says:

    Wisconsin fleebaggers are wavering. One just tried to phone in his vote. He was denied.

    BWAHAHAHAHA…

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