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“Audio: AZ shooting victim blames Palin, Beck, Angle”

The new civility!

So as to give Mr Fuller something to think about while he’s recuperating, let me note that, should someone become so angered by his plight that they decide on his behalf to exact revenge on Governor Palin, or Mr Beck, or Spearker Boehner, or Sharon Angle — even after we’ve learned that the shooter, Jared Loughner, was hardly some sort of TEA Party adept — the blood will be on his hands, and on the hands of all those who have decided to run with this “story” as if it serves as proof of guilt for those we already know are guiltless. That is, if we wish to follow Mr Fuller’s tortured reasoning.

Also, let this serve as a reminder that innocent shooting victims aren’t all saints. Some of them, clearly, can be hyper-partisan assholes with holes in the knees and back.

Incidentally, DemocracyNow? Funded by Mr Soros.

As the President and his soaring rhetoric of healing, civility, and comity sends tingles up the legs of establishment Republicans everywhere, the hard-core of his base continues the smears and innuendo in his service, and in the service of the cause.

The triangulation of the message leaves Mr Obama above the fray — even as efforts to tie the shooting to the “extremists” on the right (which now include Speaker Boehner, signaling that even ostensible conservatism is now “extremism”) continues apace.

The trap was baited, and the squishy right stepped right into it. Again. Never let a good crisis go to waste.

Here’s the thing we seem to be missing: American politics was designed to be rough and tumble. It breeds passionate discourse in the defense and advocacy of ideas. Getting things done is supposed to be difficult — and take concerted efforts in persuasion. And even then, “transformative” change requires more than simple majority agreement, if we hold ourselves in check by way of the Constitution.

— Which is why progressives diminish the document and its binding role in establishing the rule of law that is the American social compact.

This call for “civility” on the part of “progressives” is an attempt to criminalize conservative and classical liberal thought, passionately espoused, as “hate speech.” Rendering conservatives and classical liberals rhetorically handicapped as they attempt to engage in the marketplace of ideas — a marketplace already heavily regulated by the dictates of the left, through their linguistic assertions and onward through their control of the mainstream media outlets.

Those on the right who gleefully and self-righteously (whether out of ignorance or not) go along with such a gambit are nothing more than contemporary useful idiots. And should their position hold sway, the American experiment has already been lost.

We just don’t know it yet.

179 Replies to ““Audio: AZ shooting victim blames Palin, Beck, Angle””

  1. Jeff G. says:

    Let me note here who hasn’t been coming under attack: Romney. Huckabee. McCain. Jeb Bush.

    There’s a reason for that.

    This whole “crisis” has been used by the left as a kind of open GOP primary. Mona Charen and Peggy Noonan and David Frum may be happy about it, but for conservatives who live outside the Beltway, this is an attack on the heart and soul of classical liberalism. And the pragmatists are more than happy to go along — or at least, keep out of it while the TEA Partiers are being run down and out of their way.

  2. B. Moe says:

    Also, let this serve as a reminder that innocent shooting victims aren’t all saints. Some of them, clearly, can be hyper-partisan assholes with holes in the knees and back…

    …who already have agents negotiating book deals and appearances on Oprah…

  3. Funny about Fuller, he has been blaming Beck for a bunch of stuff for quite a long time.

    Fuller has a pretty compact online presence, but it is pretty hate-filled.

  4. serr8d says:

    I’d wager that almost all of the people at the rally were disposed to speak the new far-Left Democrat talking points. In Mr. Fuller’s case, this might be a dream come true, opportunity fire so to speak, to all of a sudden have an amplified voice for his otherwise typical Democrat-fueled musings.

  5. serr8d says:

    There you go, paul mitchell. GMTA.

  6. newrouter says:

    “Disturbingly gullible” is exactly right. Now is NOT the time to dial it down. It is time to turn it UP. Public opinion is decidedly against Obamacare, and we must strike now. Do not back down. Turn it up to 11. Raise the volume. Use every opportunity to continue to remind the American people why they kicked the Left out of the House and (almost) the Senate. This is NOT the time to lose a sense of urgency. We must take down the Leftists, and the place to do it is on the floor of the House and Senate and in the ballot box at each and every election between now and November, 2012.

    link

  7. Absolutely. This is the way the consultants will choose their “acceptable” candidate, who’s “electable”, so that when that bland, compromising, overspending douche, who “cares” and “wants a dialog” loses in Iowa and New Hampshire, they can attack the shit out of the Tea Party types who have “taken over” and “marginalized” the GOP. The money will flood in, the rank and file will lose their shit, and we’ll have the Delaware and Alaska mid-terms writ National.

    Keep in mind, Sara ain’t going to run. She might think about it, but she’ll get killed and drop out quick. She’s the Howard Dean of the GOP. Daniels won’t run either and Christie will be forced into the VP spot, just to appease the TP and the Teacher’s Unions in NJ. NJ will be back in donkey hands within minutes of Christie leaving after a trumped up scandal hits whoever takes over. As VP candidate, Christie will be the designated attack dog for Romney and end up out in the wilderness after the election.

    Romney is going to get his clock cleaned by Obama come 2012. I’m certain. In fact, I’ll put money down. All will proceed as I have forseen.

  8. JD says:

    Fuller is not politicizing this. Only the snowily hicktard Palin would be so crass. Fuck the leftists and their smears. Fuck you, fuck you, and fuck you. You may quote me.

  9. Thanks, serr8d, Fuller just doesn’t sound like military to me. But, I just can’t find anything about his military background.

  10. Pablo says:

    Given his age, it’s quite possible that he was drafted, did his bit and got out. He certainly doesn’t sound like a career guy. Markos “Screw them” Zuniga is a veteran. In and of itself, that doesn’t mean much.

    Clearly, getting shot doesn’t make one smarter.

  11. serr8d says:

    My Gawd, Charles M. Blow’s written this at the NYT

    Immediately after the news broke, the air became thick with conjecture, speculation and innuendo. There was a giddy, almost punch-drunk excitement on the left. The prophecy had been fulfilled: “words have consequences.” And now, the right’s rhetorical chickens had finally come home to roost.

    The dots were too close and the temptation to connect them too strong. The target was a Democratic congresswoman. There was the map of her district in the cross hairs. There were her own prescient worries about overheated rhetoric.

    Within hours of the shooting, there was a full-fledged witch hunt to link the shooter to the right. …

    Great. So the left overreacts and overreaches and it only accomplishes two things: fostering sympathy for its opponents and nurturing a false equivalence within the body politic. Well done, Democrats.

    Now we’ve settled into the by-any-means-necessary argument: anything that gets us to focus on the rhetoric and tamp it down is a good thing. But a wrong in the service of righteousness is no less wrong, no less corrosive, no less a menace to the very righteousness it’s meant to support.

    You can’t claim the higher ground in a pit of quicksand.

    Concocting connections to advance an argument actually weakens it. The argument for tonal moderation has been done a tremendous disservice by those who sought to score political points in the absence of proof.

    Not helpful, Chas. Someone might require you attend a remedial Democrat Talking Points session. Expect it to be closed-door.

  12. Pablo says:

    Fuller said he would likely decline to appear on Fox:

    “I am afraid that might develop into a screaming session because I think they promote the war, I think I ought to pass on that, talking to Fox, I don’t like what they’re selling.

    “I would stand up and just scream ‘whores’ at them, with my leg bleeding, and shock and with the congress lady laying on the pavement after having a slug pass through her head.

    “I know they’re just going to attack, they would probably attack me. They’ll distort. Particularly Miss Blood Libel herself. The spoiled princess party. I am willing to take them on. I want to call them out and see if they have a peep to say.”

    From Media Mutters. Mr. Fuller is hitting all the big outlets.

  13. bh says:

    It’s simply surreal to listen to that audio.

    The truth is known now. For them to continue with the lie does nothing but damage their credibility.

    If it wasn’t so fucked up, I’d be happy to see them pursue this open madness.

  14. motionview says:

    This call for “civility” on the part of “progressives” is an attempt to criminalize conservative and classical liberal thought, passionately espoused, as “hate speech.”

    As the progs, embodied in that model of “civility”, Bill Maher, claim the mantle of science(for service in the Cause), where truth is only truthiness, unless it advances the narrative, in which case it is TRUTH, and dissenters are “deniers”.

  15. sdferr says:

    I’m going to be happy they pursue it anyhow bh. I can’t see how to stop it in any practical sense, and further believe the vast majority of people are utterly disgusted by their behavior, so to that extent I’m content to see them shoot themselves, the violent bastards.

  16. Pablo says:

    Not helpful, Chas. Someone might require you attend a remedial Democrat Talking Points session. Expect it to be closed-door.

    Wait, that’s Charles Blow? As in Charles Blow? That Charles Blow? I’m afraid to click over and land in a wormhole of some sort. Or wind up joining al-Qaeda.

  17. serr8d says:

    Heh. This Fuller loon is doing us a service. So far, only the erudite Chas notices.

    Democrats, for whom the quicksand beckoned: they rushed in like lemmings. Let ’em sink.

  18. serr8d says:

    I checked the pic. Yes, that’s Blow.

    NYT staff have helpfully airlifted to him his missing meds.

  19. JD says:

    Fuller is reprehensible.

  20. JD says:

    Mr Blow at the NYT is going to be scorned.

  21. Pablo says:

    Only a racist would scorn Charles Blow, JD. Unless he appears on Fox News, then it would be all green lights.

  22. sdferr says:

    Chasing down Jeff’s link to discoverthenetworks about DemocracyNow, I looked there at an article on Pacifica Radio. Whether the story of Pacifica is a useful microcosm of the workings of the politically radical left or not, it still has a bunch of funny bits to read, amusing in their own way, and reflective of the apparent inability of the leftists to stick to their own principles in action:

    Pacifica has demonstrated hypocrisy in many other ways. Once dedicated to pushing the envelope of provocation, its airings of indecent words by comedian George Carlin beginning in 1973 led to one of the landmark cases in broadcast history, FCC v. Pacifica Foundation (1978). Pacifica stations will allow its hosts to voice nearly limitless verbal abuse against Republican politicians. But this network has made it an immediate firing offense for any of its employees on air to discuss the ‘dirty laundry’ of fired employees or policy decisions by Pacifica executives. This and similar gag orders at times have been enforced with ruthless efficiency, literally dragging programmers out of studios and terminating their shows for the tiniest infractions of these rules. Free speech on Pacifica Radio does not extend to free speech about Pacifica Radio.

    Ceterum autem censeo, CPBNPRPBSinem esse delendam

  23. dicentra says:

    Even though everyone with a brain knows that the rhetoric didn’t pull the trigger, people right of center are still going to measure their words–not to avoid another shooting but to avoid being the target (see what I did!) of the same harpy attack that descended on Palin, Limbaugh, and Beck.

    Free speech on Pacifica Radio does not extend to free speech about Pacifica Radio.

    Except that the term “free speech” is misused here: they’re not engaging in free speech against the right but in abusive speech against the right. Any speech that doesn’t further the cause is forbidden. They were never in thrall to the concept of free speech to begin with.

  24. JD says:

    This guy will be a rockstqr with the Soros family of mediamatterz, thinkregress, rawstory, manbearpig, etal

  25. dicentra says:

    Maher: They studied science, read Plato, hung out in Paris, and thought the Bible was mostly bullshit.

    This from the man who doesn’t believe in the germ theory of disease.

    And the only “they” who didn’t care for the Bible as written was Jefferson, and maybe Franklin, but the Founders were legion, the majority of them believers, many had degrees in theology, and some were pastors.

  26. happyfeet says:

    hah Amy sometimes broadcasts from just about a block from here – there’s a Pacifica station down towards Vivid called KPFK… she’s a piece of work I wonder how seriously she takes herself

    one time the station was having an open house sort of garage sale and I wish I’d walked in but I felt like I was overdressed in a way that I’d be uncomfortable cause everyone there are dirty hippies

  27. happyfeet says:

    their broadcast licenses are worth a very real fortune

  28. happyfeet says:

    personally I don’t see what choice Mr. Fuller has but to sue the people he holds responsible for damages

    to not do so would be horrifically cowardly of him I think

  29. sdferr says:

    how seriously she takes herself

    Seriously enough to accept the reported million buck a year contract I guess.

  30. happyfeet says:

    wow I think that’s more than the morning NPR propaganda whores get

  31. Alec Leamas says:

    I keep thinking that this quote from Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland is appropos to the past week:

    ‘Let the jury consider their verdict,’ the King said, for about the twentieth time that day.

    ‘No, no!’ said the Queen. ‘Sentence first – verdict afterwards.’

    ‘Stuff and nonsense!’ said Alice loudly. ‘The idea of having the sentence first!’

    ‘Hold your tongue!’ said the Queen, turning purple.

    ‘I won’t!’ said Alice.

    ‘Off with her head!’ the Queen shouted at the top of her voice.

  32. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – This “unprincipled gambit” will not end well for the Left.

  33. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – I wonder if this had anything to do with Bumbblefucks announcement today that he intends to “focus on education reform”, which would make three years in a row now that the economy didn’t get focused on as he promised.

    – I don'[t blame him. If I’d made the mess of things that he has I probably wouldn’t want to ficus on it either.

  34. serr8d says:

    Hmmmph. Even the NFL is getting into the game, trying to ban player’s trash-talk.

    My favorite greasy midget speaks very well to this.

  35. geoffb says:

    Dupnik last week, Fuller this week. The ride up is the thrill, the one down after their usefulness is at an end is less savory. Unless of course you are prepared to go the Full Sheehan, but even that is not a good trip.

    Throughout 2010, Sheehan began working closely with the Socialist Alternative, appearing at events hosted by the party and its international affiliate, the Socialist Party in the United States and Britain. Sheehan has articulated revolutionary socialist and democratic socialist positions and called for a united socialist campaign for the United States presidency in 2012. She has stated that Karl Marx “was one of the most brilliant thinkers and political/social philosophers in modern history”.

    The future for the useful idiots is always a known quantity.

  36. dicentra says:

    And now, hosted by Markos Krugman, the Climate of Hate blog.

  37. guinsPen says:

    GMTA.

    Greenwich Mountain Time Ahoy?

  38. JD says:

    Waaaaaaay off-topic, but this is kind of funny, if not a bit annoying.

    http://www.annoyingorange.com

  39. serr8d says:

    GMTA

    GreenBay Missteps Today in Atlanta

  40. sdferr says:

    P.J. O’Rourke on the NYTimes, Tucson and “losing it”:

    But antigovernment ramblings coming from outside the government are so sinister that they are sinister whether they are sinister or not. “And regardless of what led to the episode,” Hulse and Zernike say, “it quickly focused attention on the degree to which inflammatory language, threats and implicit instigations to violence have become a steady undercurrent in the nation’s political culture.”

    To maintain that there’s a lack of evidence for such a sweeping statement would be inaccurate since Hulse and Zernike themselves are doing what they claim is being done. And given the tight deadlines of a Sunday edition they have focused their attention quickly indeed.

  41. serr8d says:

    That’s troubling, JD.

    RAAAAACIST~!, too.

  42. guinsPen says:

    Ah, Stone Mountain time ahead.

    Spliff.

  43. happyfeet says:

    if for reals we have a steady undercurrent of implicit instigations to violence then the people responsible would seem to suck at the job

  44. happyfeet says:

    here is what one of propaganda whore Viv Schiller’s National Soros Radio’s “experts” has to say on the matter

    Lundberg lists a number of improvements we could make in our day-to-day discussions: “I’d like to see a voluntary moratorium on violent metaphors; I’d like to see less talk about people and parties and more talk about policies; I’d like to see less blame attribution, less recourse to claims of victimization, etc. Any or all of these changes could make a big difference in the tenor of American public life.”

    The problem, he says, is that the very strategies he would like to remove from public debate actually succeed “in a context where political talk aims at the lowest information, lowest complexity forms of political argument. In other words, war metaphors, personification of politics, blame, victimization all work as rhetorical strategies because they translate into compact and simple narratives about who the public should vote for.”

  45. sdferr says:

    Word from the sharpers in the clubhouse was that Tip played the White course at East Potomac pretty frequently when Congress was in session. I played the Blue course there a lot then, but I never saw the Speaker.

  46. happyfeet says:

    it seems to me though that even moreso than the left attempted to smear Palin with responsibility for the shooted people the Palin fan cult went into maximum post after post overdrive showing how their stupid hoochie was totally the bestest hoochie ever and hey look here’s a youtube she hits all the right notes it’s perfect pitch omg omg she’s so presidential I have to touch myself

    the whole episode is just a testament to how retarded and beneath our collective dignity American politics has gotten I think

  47. guinsPen says:

    The Comity Cavern.

  48. sdferr says:

    It’s hard to draw an arrow to our collective dignity. Our collective indignity? Easy-peasy.

  49. guinsPen says:

    Teh.

  50. happyfeet says:

    that’s a good point and me I think striving for flex-dignity just makes sense given the times we live in

  51. sdferr says:

    Place your bets on Boehner’s handicap going up over the next couple of years though. Lead pipe cinch.

  52. JD says:

    You think that is bad, google annoying orange and lady pasta.

  53. happyfeet says:

    speaking of handicapped another thing that’s becoming clear with respect to how retarded Republicans are, even with Michael Steele gone… we have prince bumblefuck sashaying about making shooty shooty war on oil drilling and jobs, and we have gas prices going through the roof, and all Team R wants to do is yammer on and on about this hapless Sarah Palin person

    they need to get their head in the game

  54. guinsPen says:

    My, what lovely shoes you’ve worn today.

  55. JD says:

    We should just ignore the vile lies from the MFM and the Left, happyfeet?

  56. Darleen says:

    Had photography class this morning so just getting in … I’ve skimmed the comments so I may have missed it,

    but two important things … being a victim does not grant an automatic Moral Authority Card. It would be best not to attack Fuller, but to “tsk tsk” as someone not thinking clearly due to his unfortunate experience.

    Fuller forgets he is also attacking Giffords when he starts in about “guns” since she is a pro-2nd amendment advocate. More proof that he is either addled by the event, or is addled enough by his anger that he wishes to score political points with his wounds.

    Pitiful.

  57. sdferr says:

    If otherwise occupied by beating them over the head with a deficit bat, I’d almost be willing to say yes JD, ignore that shit and pound them to dust.

  58. Darleen says:

    Oh…btw, how much attention did the MFM and places like HuffPo give to Christina Green’s dad when he said he didn’t blame anyone but the shooter and did want her death to be used to curtail freedom — this was just a price we pay for having a free society?

  59. happyfeet says:

    I’m not saying just ignore but there is indeed precious little evidence that anyone is believing that Team R or “rhetoric” is responsible for Jared’s handiwork

    No. And it’s hard not to notice that the majority of the pushback isn’t against the ideas about rhetoric it’s a pushback against the idea that Sarah Palin isn’t the most wonderful goddess of liberty and wisdom ever to pop fully formed from the head of Moose Zeus.

  60. Darleen says:

    happyfeet posted on 1/15 @ 1:59 pm

    How about YOU putting a cupcake into it and decreasing the amount of talk about Palin by half here?

    Don’t you understand that you are irrational about the woman? Emotionally, psychologically based gratuitous hatred?

    Seek.help.

  61. Darleen says:

    precious little evidence that anyone

    Fuller is. That’s someONE.

    And over half of MSNBC’s audience is buying it.

    You’re bothered that Palin and her family weren’t in her church when it was firebombed.

  62. happyfeet says:

    hf: hello psychiatrist receptionist person I think Sarah Palin is a stupid cheap opportunistic hoochie Darleen says I need help when can you fit me in?

    […]

    […]

    psychiatrist receptionist person: am I on the radio?

  63. sdferr says:

    What would Brian Boitano do? Too late to save Terrance and Phillip. On to plan B.

  64. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Yes feets, do seek help. And when you’re with your analyst for the first time, omit the use of the word “collective”. Makes you look bad, and you’re all about looks.

  65. guinsPen says:

    But they seriously don’t do your toes justice.

  66. newrouter says:

    eewww toe nail fugus

  67. guinsPen says:

    “Drew first blood?”

    Excuse me, Mister Announcer?

  68. guinsPen says:

    B-0
    P-7

  69. happyfeet says:

    Matt Hanson, 50, a civil engineer who has worked for California’s transportation department for 22 years, said he understands that public pension systems could use adjustments but he believes pensions are fundamentally sound.*

    shine on little diamond

  70. newrouter says:

    i think annoyingorange can can cure toe nail “fugus”

  71. guinsPen says:

    Resolution 2011.007.a:

    Use “nice, median and mode” instead of the other word.

  72. guinsPen says:

    B-7
    P-7
    Rudely.

  73. newrouter says:

    2 posts 2 typos 2 stupid

  74. guinsPen says:

    Someone wake me up when the game starts.

  75. guinsPen says:

    2 be bobbyorr gotten

  76. guinsPen says:

    #93 scores himself an extra helping of supper.

    B-14
    P-07

  77. newrouter says:

    funny what you find laying on the ground

  78. newrouter says:

    absolute moral authority

    Toward the end of the town hall meeting Saturday morning, one of the shooting victims, J. Eric Fuller, took exception to comments by two of the speakers: Ariz. state Rep. Terri Proud, a Dist. 26 Republican, and Tucson Tea Party spokesman Trent Humphries.

    According to sheriff’s deputies at the scene, Fuller took a photo of Humphries and said, “You’re Dead.”

    Deputies immediately escorted Fuller from the room.

    Pima County Sheriff’s spokesman Jason Ogan said later Saturday that Fuller has been charged with threats and intimidation and he also will be charged with disorderly conduct.

    Among the dignitaries at the town hall taping were Mayor Bob Walkup, U.S. Rep. Raul Grijalva and former Congressman Jim Kolbe.

    link

  79. guinsPen says:

    that reminds me.
    “potatoes au gratin?”
    gone.

  80. Stephanie says:

    http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2011/01/breaking-tucson-tea-party-leader-threatened-during-abc-interview-audience-member-screams-trent-humphries-youre-dead/

    I suppose the leftards that barfed this idiot up so he could speak troof to power and ‘put a face on the tragedy’ are kickin each other in the balls right about now.

    A meme is a terrible thing to waste.

  81. happyfeet says:

    Mr. Fuller is going to have to give back his together we thrive t-shirt I bet if he doesn’t shape up Mr. newrouter

  82. happyfeet says:

    The ABC producer said he was not sure if they will show incident tomorrow, or not.

    together we thrive indeed

  83. newrouter says:

    i think “together we jive” is hipper

  84. Blitz says:

    Fuck it. WE own the guns.

    Unhelpful, I know. Thing is? Dude is probably being paid to lie like this, and the MFM will eat it up and disgorge it in a widespread spew. WTF can we do about it?? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

    I can see nothing that I can personally do, nor anything that any of our persuasion CAN do…Help a moron out folks, because I’m close to being ready to go Postal.

  85. happyfeet says:

    actually the highest per capita gun ownership would be among America’s union thug pansy high-overtime generous pensions police forces

  86. newrouter says:

    “being ready to go Postal.”

    say no to gov’t use fedex

  87. happyfeet says:

    The Republican party still is not serious about the fiscal issues, but there is an element within the party that is, and it needs to be encouraged and empowered. Somebody has a chance to own this issue. Who will?*

  88. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Well Blitz, if it’s the blood libel campaign, fronted most recently by Fuller that you’re referring too, it would seem he’s done a pretty good job of pinning the tale on the donkey, so to speak.

    – I still say this is one of those times when you give ’em all the bile they can gush on their own shoes, while calling attention to the freak show at every opportunity.

  89. guinsPen says:

    More rude guestage. Baltimorions, 21-7 at the half.

  90. Blitz says:

    Feets? I own more than some small town forces…

    Seriously, I was asking a question. What should we do and HOW should we do it? Yelling OUTLAW won’t do jack, although WOLVERINE may just scare the hell out of them…

    I write my congresscritters, but here in The Last Great Socialist State ( MA ) it does absolutely no good…I quit.

  91. Blitz says:

    I’m with you BBH Let them spew and spew…BUT? It still works for them, and “THEY” are gaining numbers through the bile

  92. serr8d says:

    I’m happy. Rothlisberger is being fed a steady diet of sour Raven pie.

  93. newrouter says:

    the stillers should quit giving the ball to other team.

  94. Blitz says:

    As a Pats fan, the Ratbirds are the ONLY team I fear….GO STEELERS!!!

  95. guinsPen says:

    Marked down from 21-10.

  96. happyfeet says:

    What should we do and HOW should we do it?

    we just need to embrace commonsense conservatism I think Mr. Blitz plus various other empty phrases on an ad hoc basis

  97. dicentra says:

    Also from Peej:

    But liberalism, as personified by the New York Times, became a dotty old aunt sometime during the Johnson administration. She’s provincial, eccentric, and holds dull, peculiar views about the world. Still, she has our fond regard, and we visit her regularly in her nursing home otherwise known as Arts and Leisure and the Book Review. Or we did until Sunday, January 9, when she began spouting obscenities and exposing herself.

  98. Blitz says:

    Happy? If I ever meet you? I’ll spit in your face and THEN hug you. You are an empty vessel with nothing much to add to the conversation here, but I do enjoy your humor.

    I was actually serious you moron. I may be one of the lesser lights here, but at least I’m TRYING to learn. GO PALIN!!!!

  99. dicentra says:

    there is indeed precious little evidence that anyone is believing that Team R or “rhetoric” is responsible for Jared’s handiwork

    You need to look at what they’re still Tweeting about @sarahpalin, @sarahpalinusa, @glennbeck and @rushlimbaugh.

    Unfortunately, people still accept the premise that a psycho can be provoked to violence by something said in the public sphere, even if it wasn’t the catalyst in this case. For example, in 1991’s The Fisher King, shock-jock Jeff Bridges suggests on the radio that someone ought to shoot up a snooty nightclub and then loses his career when a lunatic does just that.

    But that’s not something that happens in reality. Rampage killers and assassins live in their own heads, nursing grudges for wrongs–real and imagined–committed against them and only them. Loughner was cheesed at Giffords for not satisfactorily answering a psycho question, and if it’s true that he deemed her a “phony,” then it’s possible he was taken by the same delusion that John Lennon’s killer had: that a public figure is an impostor, a clever fake who must be eliminated.

    McVeigh likewise wasn’t influenced by Limbaugh but by his alleged outrage over Waco, though I’d put money on a long-standing desire to blow something to kingdom come, and Waco provided an excuse.

    Whack-jobs are by definition impervious to reality, and there’s no reason to alter our behavior “just in case.”

  100. dicentra says:

    Blitz:

    Move to Texas.

    You’re welcome.

  101. happyfeet says:

    I should think that the evidence points to an amazing amount of restraint on the part of the psycho community.

  102. happyfeet says:

    Mr. Blitz we used to talk about what we could do as individuals and I did my part already… I make more monies and pay less taxes than I did during Bush which is the best I can think to do

  103. Blitz says:

    LOL Di!! I was going there anyway. Just? I have grandbabies here in MA now, and I want to enjoy them while they’re NOT teenagers…

    Anything else DI? any relly relevant suggestions? I’m open to anything.

  104. Swen says:

    13. bh posted on 1/15 @ 10:21 am
    It’s simply surreal to listen to that audio.

    The truth is known now. For them to continue with the lie does nothing but damage their credibility. …

    That puzzled me too. In the latest Quinnipiac poll, only 15% of respondents thought overheated political rhetoric was the main reason for the Arizona shooting. Yet, to read the MSM, overheated rhetoric is the only possible explanation for the shooting spree. They’re continuing to perpetuate the lie even though they’re failing badly and they’ve got to know it. So why? Why make themselves look like total politically motivated asses?

    But then it occurred to me that the MSM is attacking Fox News and right-wing talk radio, exactly the same people who are gaining market share while the MSM are sucking wind. Hardly a week goes by without an MSM print outlet going out of business. The MSM aren’t just trying to score political points, I think they’re trying to damage their business competitors, and given the current state of the MSM’s finances they may well think they have nothing to lose. Their behavior is damaging their credibility, but their credibility won’t do them much good when they’re flipping burgers at Micky D’s.

    Only they know just how bad their financial condition is, but this sure makes a lot more sense as a last minute ‘Hail Mary pass’ attempt to save their phoney baloney jobs — or a “last great act of defiance” — than it does as an attempt simply to advance their political agenda.

  105. Blitz says:

    You still make me laugh feets. However? I may not have made my point. This is to YOU Feets…as you are a part of the whole damned advertisement community…

    Make me an advertisement that shows the left why they should change their collective minds about the recent shooting….If you can do that? I may not give up/quit.

  106. Stephanie says:

    If they are good little apparatchiks Papa Obammmy might just bail em out, too.

    Or not. That’s the problem with hoping you’ll be the one tossed under the bus last. You’re never quite sure when the bus is out of gas.

  107. serr8d says:

    This is the new and exciting Emo Happyfeet™:

    I think Sarah Palin is a stupid cheap opportunistic hoochie

    This is something nice someone said about the new and exciting Emo Happyfeet™:

    so is this:

    and this:

    and all this:

    Clearly, the new and exciting Emo Happyfeet™ has won rave reviews! Can’t wait for the next newer and excitinger Emo Happyfeet™ Shift™~!

  108. happyfeet says:

    I’m not in that part of the community Mr. Blitz but if I were I would make an ad with America pissing itself while a group of Chinese stood around in a circle pointing and laughing

  109. newrouter says:

    does baracky have a monster bus? a lot things are underneath it.

  110. guinsPen says:

    do we know petitioner “stuartbramhall?”

  111. McGehee says:

    does baracky have a monster bus? a lot things are underneath it.

    Any sign under there of happyfeet’s self-respect? It’s the only place I can think of where it might be.

  112. Mike LaRoche says:

    I thought nishi kidnapped happyfeet’s self-respect.

  113. happyfeet says:

    propaganda whore Viv Schiller’s National Soros Radio says we should celebrate the rising power of China

    The end of America’s status as the world’s sole super power wouldn’t be a bad thing, either, Barnett argues. Part of the American contribution after World War II was establishing a global economic system that allowed great powers to rise without instigating a war.

    “We’ve created the system for these people to rise, and now we seem uncomfortable with the fact that we’re not going to be the sole pole anymore in the system,” Barnett says. “And we don’t seem to know how to ask for anybody else’s help.”

  114. dicentra says:

    If you enjoy losing money like water through a faucet, time to buy municipal bonds.

  115. Blitz says:

    Swen? What you just posted is perfect. exactly what I was looking for in fact!! And yet? That 15-20 percent of the poll RUN this little failshit Coountry, and we have NO hope of changing that…

    WHY???

  116. Stephanie says:

    does baracky have a monster bus? a lot things are underneath it.

    Some things supposedly thrown under Obama’s bus were really thrown in the luggage compartment. Van Jones and Samantha Powers come to mind. That Chu guy, too. Their misdirection is an artform.

  117. Blitz says:

    Please remove an O…I’m a moron, but I can spell

  118. sdferr says:

    do we know petitioner “stuartbramhall?”

    No, we don’t, but I think we can vote his ass off the island anyhow. DemokakaracyNow!

  119. dicentra says:

    Anything else DI? any really relevant suggestions? I’m open to anything.

    Uh… Do what I did when I had to take the bus between Cali and Popayán Colombia at night in the rain: sit in the back of the bus, don’t look out the windows (especially the front window), and generally ignore the fact that the bus driver was doing his dead-level best to kill us all. As evidenced by all the little crosses at the side of the road.

    I’ve also heard that adult beverages help manufacture some sweet oblivion, but I can’t swear by it.

  120. Stephanie says:

    Well, shit. How to blow a two touchdown lead in 14 minutes.

  121. newrouter says:

    “Barnett says. “And we don’t seem to know how to ask for anybody else’s help.”

    baracky’s bowing didn’t help much it seems

  122. dicentra says:

    [T]his sure makes a lot more sense as a last minute ‘Hail Mary pass’ attempt to save their phoney baloney jobs — or a “last great act of defiance” — than it does as an attempt simply to advance their political agenda.

    You seem to be assuming that their jobs and their political agenda are separate entities.

  123. happyfeet says:

    it would be interesting to graph the plummetousness of muni bonds against gas prices I think

    from the chart it looks like the greatest plummet in munis started in November of last year

    then look at the one-year quick chart here

  124. sdferr says:

    Joe: Can Baltimore win Leon?

    Leon: Not with an icepick buried in the back of their head they can’t, Joe.

  125. dicentra says:

    I don’t know anything about muni bonds except that within the next couple weeks I gotta write a procedure for how to place an order in the computer when a rich person calls to buy or sell them.

    Same with equities and mutual funds and all that high-fallutin’ financial stuff that I’ll never understand.

  126. happyfeet says:

    I don’t know anything either but that when people spend more on gas they spend less on other shit

  127. geoffb says:

    Jared, The Movie.

  128. BT says:

    What we saw after Tucson, was Katrina Redux. Fortunately, this time the right was ready.

  129. newrouter says:

    “if only we had more wind mills the gas prices wouldn’t be so high”

    /reality based off

  130. sdferr says:

    I know that I can buy perfectly serviceable and tasty puff-pastry at the grocery for less than the trouble it takes to make the stuff at home. That’s the way it’s supposed to go, in general. Thing is, people like Michelle seek to thwart the way it’s supposed to go, and succeed too damn often.

  131. dicentra says:

    Yesterday saw a headline saying the food supply was stretched to its limit (with all caveats about headline-reading inserted here) and I’m reminded of the moronic chick who assured us that it’s OK to shut off the pumps to CA’s central valley because we can always buy food from Chile.

    Because drastic reductions in supply don’t happen when your cause is just fish.

  132. dicentra says:

    Also, very cute kid living a nightmare.

  133. Blitz says:

    LOL Di!! Only problem with that is I don’t take the bus. Like Kerouc I ride…Unfortunately, most of my riding time has been attempting to AND ultimately breaking the laws…of physics…Much hilarity has ensued.

    As far as Munis go? I finded out from Drudge today? don’t do that.

  134. happyfeet says:

    here is the stretched food supply article

  135. Mike LaRoche says:

    If the food supply runs out, won’t the Obamessiah just feed us loaves and fishes?

  136. sdferr says:

    . . .shows the left why they should change their collective minds about the recent shooting. . .

    I honor you as among the best Blitz, but this strikes me as motivated by the wrong question. Why, after all, should we give a shit what sort of stupidities the stupid will invest themselves in? We should profitably care about other things first, I think.

  137. geoffb says:

    Zerohedge had a couple of Muni articles up. Not Grecian yet but getting there.

  138. newrouter says:

    “loaves and fishes”

    yea anchovies

  139. happyfeet says:

    thank you geoff I want to understand that whole thing more better

  140. Blitz says:

    Because SD, ( and I’m amongst the least, but TY ) I’m finding the meme getting even stronger. I’m seeing it everywhere now, and honestly? It frightens me. I have no wish to go against my brother Americans, but I will, and I’m afraid that’s where we’re headed.

  141. Stephanie says:

    Latest meme-troll alert:

    Now the poor shooting victim has PTSD from the shooting and “knoweth not what he does.”

  142. Stephanie says:

    Should I have put a “Forgive them father” preceding that quote? I wasn’t actually quoting Obamessiah, so I decided not to.

  143. newrouter says:

    “knoweth not what he does.”

    absolute moral authority ax cindy s.

  144. sdferr says:

    . . .finding the meme getting even stronger.

    Nah. Step back, then look elsewhere.

  145. Blitz says:

    Well, G’nite y’all…the painkillers are kicking in( recently did something even MORE stupid than normal) and I don’t want to seem a fool. I’ll figure it out MAYBE before you folks actually get it DONE!!!

  146. happyfeet says:

    speaking of baby memes is Palin really going to hijack MLK day to break her silence bout the violence?

  147. Stephanie says:

    Yeah, and they said she had PTSD too from her meeting with that hated Bush dood and that’s what caused her to speak out cause she really just wanted to support her son when he went to war. She didn’t know he’d “be put in harm’s way.”

    That phrase just gags me. Like Bush or some evil general is just positioning soldiers for slaughter or something. And like hiking and camping are job one of the military.

  148. Blitz says:

    I’ve seen that SD…It means little to nothing due to the MFM influence. I am not capable of putting in words what I mean right now, but put it this way…Bullies are few and far between in grade school as they are in politics…Yet? we all live in fear of them…

    G’nite all!! Don’t forget to tip Jeff and insult Happy for me, K?

  149. newrouter says:

    “MLK day ”

    the dead guy gets the whole weekend for some reason

  150. Stephanie says:

    Yep. That’s sure to stir the pot. Dare she quote some of MLK’s more ehm, fiery speeches? I don’t think they’re gonna like it, if so. And not cause of the hijacking of the day, but cause of her “hiding behind” MLK’s awesome sentiments.

    Til she drops a couple of lines from some of his lesser known speeches and then, whoops.

  151. Blitz says:

    GO STEELERS!!!

  152. sdferr says:

    On the contrary, it means a great deal I think Blitz, but because it reflects other things, like the Governorships, State Houses and Senates taken charge of by the Republicans in the last election.

    This evil murder fest and the consequent diversion strikes me as yet another opportunity to remind ourselves of the human (and particularly male) propensity to focus in on details to the detriment of our cognition of the wider picture. The example I’ve usually resorted to is Eastern flight 401. This is a too real phenomenon affecting us in many spheres of endeavor. It’s fucking hard to keep the whole in mind all of the time, but we’ve got to try anyhow.

  153. happyfeet says:

    diversion is exactly right

    meanwhile gas ain’t getting any cheaper

  154. newrouter says:

    “Palin really going to hijack MLK day ”

    glenn beck does it better

  155. Blitz says:

    I see what you’re saying, yet I wouldn’t have used 401 as an example. Maybe more of the ” KILL THE BILL” than 9/11. Sorry, but the American electorate in general? I have to agree with Haps….Failshit.

  156. guinsPen says:

    i hope
    she hijacks
    your feetboard.

  157. Wm T Sherman says:

    The public is not buying the “vitriolic ambiance” gambit. It has failed.

  158. newrouter says:

    does mlk get 2 days or 5

  159. Blitz says:

    I guess I have given up…and yet, this voice won’t quit.

  160. Wm T Sherman says:

    Via Ace of Spades HQ: Mr. J. Eric Fuller has been arrested for making death threats against the chairman of the Tuscon Tea Party and a Republican congressman.

    http://minx.cc/?post=310789

  161. Wm T Sherman says:

    Correction: It was just the Tea Party chairman.

  162. sdferr says:

    Sorry, but the American electorate in general?

    I’m not celebrating their genius, mind you. There isn’t such a thing, despite the politician’s obsequious pandering otherwise. It’s true we are where we are and that han’t come about by wise choosing and nor is it good, but we ain’t dead yet, which, were we to spend too much effort worrying over the teeny advances of proggitude, I’m concerned we’d be in danger of aiding in the breach. Better days lay to the front, right? Otherwise, why bother?

  163. guinsPen says:

    Toilet was stuck. Did I miss anything?

    B-24
    P-31
    Final.

  164. newrouter says:

    “Did I miss anything?”

    my advice @95

  165. newrouter says:

    one bird kill noted this weekend in the north

  166. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Nope. You did not miss anything. Toilets stick because they can, and the Left is still unhinged because they know they’re going down. Another toilet metaphore!!eleventy111

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  168. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – With the arrest of one of their useful idiots, wonder how long it will take HuffPo and the MFM to erect the balloon fence ass covering crapola.

  169. Stephanie says:

    And the tea party guy just announced no he won’t press charges.

    Facepalm.

  170. happyfeet says:

    together we motherfucking thrive

  171. Stephanie says:

    Woot!

  172. Stephanie says:

    Woot! Woot!

  173. Stephanie says:

    http://www.kpho.com/news/26506251/detail.html

    Fuller INVOLUNTARILY committed.

    Tea Partier has said he won’t press charges, but this article sounds like he will. ??

  174. Stephanie says:

    During an interview with CBS 5 reporter Elias Johnson just five days after he was shot, Fuller said the shooting made him realize he would save the world some day.

    Fuller also told Johnson he went to Rep. Gabriel Gifford’s public event because he felt he had to “protect” her.

    All moonbats are certifiable. Jeez.

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  176. mechanic says:

    During KPFK’s (where Democracy Now is broadcast)non stop fund drives when they are not selling 9/11 conspiracy DVD’s they are usually selling Zeigeist.

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