The message received in November? Americans want new deficit spending, a stagnant economy, and few new jobs just so long as the only tax hike is on the wealthy dead and their families.
Compromise. Pragmatism.
****
update: the vote. Most of the nays were from far-left Dems. On the GOP side, Ensign, Sessions, DeMint, Voinovich, and Coburn voted against.
The house will tromp on it some more, they will “reconcile” (that means all the pork gets in) and then they’ll both have to vote again on the final piece of shit.
That’s what’s left of our Republic.
The message received is not the message that was sent. Guess we’ll have to keep sending it.
At what point will it no longer matter? We’re getting close, that’s for sure.
BTW, I fail to seen any compromise it this deal. What I see is capitulation.
Apparently our GOP representatives cannot tell the difference between the two.
I think comment #10 from the “Here’s the thing” thread bears repeating up top. The GOP clearly wants to stop the TEA party people from doing much of anything.
Voinovich?
Wha…?
So, was this whole exercise in November just a puppet show? Look, in New Jersey, Chris Christie has had to precipitate a state-sized version of a constitutional crisis with the dispute over New Jersey Supreme Court judges; he’s had to confront state bureaucrats over e-mails literally asking state employees to pray for Christie’s death.
And as far as I know, Christie has still only made a dent in New Jersey’s rotten political edifice, as fine as his efforts are.
Perhaps I’m a lunatic, but I won’t believe this incoming Congress behaves any differently than the previous one until I see at least one government shutdown. It’s becoming implausible, with asymptotic speed, that this government will not reform itself through business as usual. Someone is going to have to try unconventional tactics to alter its course. Crying on 60 Minutes does not count.
I can mangle a sentence as well as anyone. What I meant was:
It’s becoming implausible that this government will reform itself through business as usual.
The Senate is in violation of the Constitution, by the way.
Fortunately it’s only a set of suggested guidelines, so no big thing.
so Meghan’s coward daddy voted for this failshittery?
What is his function?
At what point will it no longer matter?
Around the time when we turn into Greece, and the Dems turn on one another in blind murderous rage.
On the bright side, those few lefty elite who survive can finally claim vindication for all the apocalyptic nonsense they’ve been spewing. Ice age, global warming, resource depletion, mass starvation, killer influenza — they never guessed that the real end-times catastrophe would be the money running out.
a mangeled sentenc..
maybe not-an utterance
jerry-lee lewis..pounding them keys
saying
we got chickens in the barn,-whose barn,. your barn?
Yup. Should proceed from the House.
Ensign, Sessions, DeMint, Voinovich, and Coburn…
Voinovich?
On to the House to see who does the right thing.
Oh you nit pickers. Constitution, Prostitution. Whatever.
I look forward to Mitch McConnell appearing on Oprah to discuss his unresolved feelings about capital gains taxes, permanent unemployment benefits, and his mother.
The federal government is by now so staggeringly corrupt that it’s pushed itself well into positive feedback. It will fail because it must. It’s inherently unstable.
Our problem is that failure plays into the emerging global collective. That game is afoot.
3 words i don’t want cops to say
to me..
u’ve been drinking?
spread your legs
empty your pockets
look at me
touch your nose
gee.them cops got some verbiage!
Strangely enough I just heard a progressive get away with calling the Constitution outdated “horseshit” on live radio today.
It was sorta entertaining because she was so damn ignorant. Confused the Constitution with the Declaration of Independence right out of the gate. Yet, she gets to vote. Yay!
They hate the Constitution.
So, since we’re holding the 112th Congress responsible for the acts of the 111th, are we going to hold the 113th responsible for the acts of the 112th?
Or are we just going to toss a tantrum now because we’re not getting our binkies?
Correction: They hate any law that limits their power.
Look at New Jersey — the state supreme court is ignoring the letter of the state constitution because it gives the governor some power over who is on the supreme court.
All of this deficit spending is the teabagger’s fault.
yesterday,all my troubles seemed so
far away
i believe,in yesterday
Team R cuts the deficit pretty much the same way Julian Assange rapes scandi hoochies.
It was sorta entertaining because she was so damn ignorant. Confused the Constitution with the Declaration of Independence right out of the gate.
Your Department of Education, NEA, state board of education and local school board tax dollars at work!
love,love me doyou know i love you
so please
love me do!
Though Team R is aiding and abetting, this is a Team D budget, Team D, spending, and Team D deficits.
the world is treating me bad
misery
i can do them whole meet the beatles album
but, i don’t wanna be a pain in the ass
Team R could have stopped it, I think, but they were too afraid.
Can we blame Bush for this as well? I’m pretty sure the statute of limitations on GW will never run out.
Then we need to make them even more afraid of us.
OUTLAW FEAR!
i don’t want to spoil the party, so i’ll go..
the second beatles disc
with the killer harmonica..
1st side/1st song
i..
shoulda known better..
Team R could have stopped it, I think, but they were too afraid.
Afraid of whom cranky? The democrat-media axis? Or the incoming TEA-party supported GOP House freshmen?
Bachmann thinks the CR will pass in the Senate.
I’m ready for a more vigorous revolt. I really don’t give a fuck what the pragmatists say anymore. And I don’t care that I’m in the minority, either. I’m right. And that’s what’s important.
c’on
we all got certain buttons[i said butons!]
that we program..
i got’s 100.7-classic rock’
103.3-oldiies
107-altenative
92.9..fuck
and them the am’s
rush..
used to be on 770 wrkobut now he’s on 1270
fruck it, i got a john lee hooker greatest hips..
and i just pop that sucker in..
and listen to boogie chrldren..
Serious question: does anyone know if the new Congress will have any recourse to reversing any of these deals?
go jeff g.! go!
i’m right behind ya!
i got arms that wave and point..
let’s take that hill!
You mean ones that won’t also require action on the part of the Senate and the President?
I’m certain the new House could pass legislation reversing all or parts of any of these deals. But whether the Senate would go along is another question; as well as overriding Obama’s near certain veto.
On their own, the house can only make the Senate take uncomfortable votes.
That said, I’m all for discomfort when it comes to reversing these measures.
like a cat,who licks his paws
or a dog that poops in drawers..
u gotta know your place
doggerel!
otay..
i’m not done..
bob marley had cancer
on his toe,don’t ya know?
killed him
graveyard dead..
i gots the b.marley 4 disc set..
the first disc is all ska, uptempo
my fav is
‘back out’
control ur temper
I’m all for discomfort when it comes to reversing these measures.
It’ll be less discomfitting for our side if we’re on record as opposing them right now. Otherwise we run the risk of making Barak “This is a bad deal. I hate this deal. I’m being forced into this deal. I promise to do everything I can to undo this deal two years hence. The republic cannot survive without passing this deal immediately. I’ve kept the first lady waiting, here’s President Clinton to explain why.” look like a rhetorical genius.
i heard the lyrics for
‘back out’
was cuz when he was just a splatter..;
in trenchtown
and he was taking a pee
that some dude came in to his..abode,with a knife
and he said
back out, control your temper
Bill Krystol:
I can’t believe the Democratic Congress will be foolish and hubristic enough to go ahead and jam though the omnibus appropriations bill with its 6,488 earmarks totaling nearly $8.3 billion. But if they do: Shouldn’t the Republican House leadership commit to making H.R. 1 in the next Congress a bill rescinding all the earmarks and the whole $8.3 billion?
None of the appropriated funds will yet have been spent—and so Republicans will have the chance to begin their control of the House by acting against earmarks and saving taxpayers money. The Republicans in the Senate can then offer the bill as an amendment to the first piece of legislation on the floor in the new Senate, if Majority Leader Harry Reid refuses to bring the rescission to the floor. I suspect such an up or down vote on the earmarks, separated out from a broader appropriations bill, would pass. And President Obama—who’s against earmarks—would surely sign the rescission.
It would be a nice start for the new GOP Congress.
UPDATE: A reader writes:
H.R. 1 should read:
“The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is hereby repealed.”
H.R. 2 could deal with the pork.
I accept this modification, and believe that both should be advanced by the GOP Congress as early as possible.
It ain’t over til it’s over
Plan B?
Or, what Stephanie just said.
it’s 3rd party time
i’m going to a party
and i hope you are hearty
please don’t be haughty
cuz its’ a punky reggae party
We’ll see. My best guess is that today’s pork will be tomorrow’s indispensible economic stimulus.
I’d love to be wrong.
it would have been better to simply let the tax cuts expire than to pass this spendy spendy farce I think.
This is Team R saying fuck you, America. Who you gonna elect, socialists?
HF: The omnibus spending bill loaded with extra barbque is not the same bill as the tax extensions bill.
yes but the tax rate bill had plenty plenty spendings all by itself
And with that I’m going out on the newly icing roads to the club to eat dinner. Just so’s I can keep my Country Club Republican creds and all. Except that the club is the home port for the tea party group here and that as Bmoe and Donald will attest, ain’t exactly brimming with haughty types.
Oh and F*ck all of you who sent this winter shit down this way, BTW. Atlantans don’t do well on roads with rain much less ice and sleet and snow and shit. ;)
Off to the club? Tell your driver to be careful!
(Yesterday was the first day since Saturday that I didn’t have to pick up a shovel. Didn’t have to today, either. But we’re expecting 2-3 inches of snow overnight, so I guess that little vacation is over.)
Yup.
– The key is “no funding”.
– BTW – Gallup shows Congress at a 13% approval rating today. Lowest in history.
I think the GOP is afraid of the MFM making them look like big meanies because refusing to back this piece of shit bill would mean they are “against tax cuts for the middle class” and “against setting aside money for all those unemployed people” and other stuff like that.
Their fear of the incoming TEA-party people is that they are afraid the newbies are serious about reform, and they want that money to spend spend spend.
So, while I was originally thinking of them being afraid of the MFM, I think both fears are valid and operating here. Plus, they get cover (not from us of course, but they don’t care about us, obviously) by saying they were “forced” to do this out of “compromise.”
Bill Kristol:
Shouldn’t the Republican House leadership commit to making H.R. 1 in the next Congress a bill rescinding all the earmarks and the whole $8.3 billion?
None of the appropriated funds will yet have been spent–and so Republicans will have the chance to begin their control of the House by acting against earmarks and saving taxpayers money. The Republicans in the Senate can then offer the bill as an amendment to the first piece of legislation on the floor in the new Senate, if Majority Leader Harry Reid refuses to bring the rescission to the floor. I suspect such an up or down vote on the earmarks, separated out from a broader appropriations bill, would pass.
Senate Republicans wouldn’t want to do anything that would make Snowe or Collins cry. That would be divisive and smack of labels. Besides, the pragmatists keep reminding us that we will have no control of the Senate. And pragmatists always know the wisest course.
The earmarks are a symptom. They grease the wheels of the real outlandish spending. Cutting them would be a start, but only just a start.
Fred Barnes covers the news the MSM won’t.
OT but here‘s what’s happening in my state right now:
They’re lameducking the hell out us.
I hate the bastards. I really do.
Their red badge of courage.
hell out of us
Tweeth [sic] Burge: Last days of congress has created the Turporducken: pork, inside a lame duck, baked inside a gigantic turd.
Also tweeth Burge: “Lame duck session: Dems finally get the car out of the ditch, strip it for parts, leave it on cinderblocks.”
sounds like dingy harry
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. – Talk about a Grinch: Police say someone trying to steal copper wire burned down the city of Birmingham’s 35-foot-tall Christmas tree.
link
DeMint pussied out on his threat to delay the legislative ass-rapings at the behest of the double-chinned fuckhole…
and here in that same article is a very alarming thought from Team bumblefuck what should make every one of you appreciate his stalwart leadership of our failshit joke of a country
Yes this man has his finger on the fucking pulse of America. And to think this piece of shit leads Sarah Palin by 22 points.
If Romney is the nominee, I will sit out the election. It was bad enough I had to hold my nose and vote for McCain last time. This time, they can go fuck themselves.
Also, Palin’s would do well against Obama head to head. He has a problem with uppity bitches not named M’chelle.
Romney isn’t an option. I might still go vote for other stuff so I can get the sticker but no way in hell would I vote for Romney.
Palin v. Obama would be marginally entertaining but it would end badly for America I fear.
I have given this no small amount of thought.
DeMint is working hard for us with little support from the majority of his GOP colleagues.
I don’t think he’s a pussy in the slightest.
He made a toofless threat I think.
I think he’s mostly all talk.
Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion, guys.
I’ve not been able to figure out how come Obama is so worried about Russians spending themselves into oblivion. Must be something I’m missing.
You can have Sparkle Motion up the wing wang and guess what? The bond market vigilantes care not a whit. It’s not even a conundrum it’s just a truism.
Bond vigilantes are jerks.
(… and they send you powerpoint presentations full of nude chicks to your work email.)
Bomb vigilantes too.
link
link
Speaking of Sarah Palin: Zogby Person of the Year!
Seems neither Huckholio nor Romney were mentioned. A good thing.
This has much significance…
I think we’re seeing the 2012 race playing out right there.
Conan… Sarah.
Conan… Sarah.
On the one hand Conan is funnier but Sarah Palin is a very pretty girl. On the other hand Conan has limited knowledge of policy whereas Sarah Palin is a very pretty girl.
Why isn’t James Cameron a choice? Avatar was mostly a 2010 dealio really.
if we gotta have a bubble-head as commander in chief
can we at least have one with big cans?
lie to yourself..
don’t dare lie to me..
everybody on this site is punching
republican
Guilty as charged. I’d dearly love to punch a republican. Several in fact.
I just feel…
it’s my feeling that…
I think for reals
what we have to do is
get serious all of a sudden… not just us here but like our whole entire little country
and Sarah Palin sends a lot of signals but one of them isn’t
let’s get our serious on
If we could get rid of Michael Steele in the short-term, that’d be very satisfying. Ann Wagner is challenging.
if mike hucabbeezle
has mammary glands..
i think he might..
i..mmm,aint voting for she
well
maybe
delicately
“I have given this no small amount of thought.”
– Which is ti say, with enough invective to fill the bottom three floors of the Smithsonian.
Sarah Plain > each and every one of the other Team R toolbags who are running, by a million fucking miles
How bout we start a draft Mike Pence effort?
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/133587-pence-will-vote-against-tax-cut-deal
Oops, that should have been “Palin”, for there is nothing plain about the mama grizzly! Yee-haw!!
Back on topic.
Save your copy of Meet the Beatles, pee dee, it’s worth a fortune.
Yours is the only pressing holding those tunes in its grooves.
This one isn’t on there, either.
If we could get rid of Michael Steele in the short-term, that’d be very satisfying. Ann Wagner is challenging.
Very strange – there appeared to be a pair of furry caterpillars undulating on her orange forehead. Is she any different from the usual RNC shlemiel?
I fear I may use up my first iTunes gift card on Beatles tunes.
i guess we can only meet two beatles now
cuz 2 of them are dead..
i think paul will die of old age..
but poor ringo..
a propane accident? meteor strike?
food poisoning?burning bed?…
taking the wrong medication?..
toaster in tub??
poor luvable,affable ringo
he’s going down,hard
not to be morose but..
yea, a little morose..
skiing mishap?[ yup,thats my bet]
stair tumble?
hanging?
killer whale at sea-world tradgety..?
ahh- that lovable mop-top..
dead man [drumming] walking
getting stabbed,by pete best?
walking about,and drifting into traffic?
[ i thinks i should go doggerel]
polo pony uproar?
papercuts?
choking on a drumstick..
going on some African ‘holiday’
and getting stampeded?
ahh-ringo..who put the beat,in the beatles?
‘buttons always has a lot to say but, unfortunately, none of it is relevant or even intelligible.
Hit the doggerel thread, dude. This is almost worse than when hf gets all manic on Palin or Pam Tebow.
buttons is rare and special and he makes threads better
you can scroll by if you like or you can get that hammer schlammer thingy Mr. Slart
you got to give a little take a little and let your poor heart break a little
Certainly special.
Why is there no post #103?
Trollhammer is no longer an option. The script doesn’t work with the new site.
hey what happened to #105?
Bang-bang, peewell’s silver hammer came down upon this thread.
Clang-clang, pewell’s blah-blah-blah…
And now an e’s gone missing.
Mr. guins here is a song I used to listen to but hardly ever anymore
Good, good.
~~ Official List of non-Christian non-Christmas Carols ~~
2.) It Came Upon a Midnight Cowboy
3.) Elevator Boy
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