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“Public-Employees Union Now Leads All Groups in Independent Election Outlays”

But let’s not look at that. What we need to be concerned with is those shady “front groups” for all that nefarious “foreign money” pouring into the election (presumably from all those other conservative / classical liberal countries in the world who hate Obama just because he’s a powerful black man!) that’s being laundered through dubious entities like, say, the Chamber of Commerce, or Americans for Prosperity.

Please. Drop your frightened, inbred, nativist tribalism for a second, you drooling bitter clingers, and fucking focus!

It’s for your own stupid stupid stupid good.

134 Replies to ““Public-Employees Union Now Leads All Groups in Independent Election Outlays””

  1. Abe Froman says:

    Fcuk public sector unions. It’s a pity that instead of trying to buy elections they’re not forced to act out their preferences like petulant children the way they do in France. It would be more truthful. And Americans would put up with it for about ten seconds.

  2. happyfeet says:

    The 1.6 million-member AFSCME is spending a total of $87.5 million on the elections after tapping into a $16 million emergency account to help fortify the Democrats’ hold on Congress.

    math says the dirty socialist AFSCME union whores are spending 26.7% less nationally than Meg Whitman ($119M) is spending of her own monies just in the state of California to buy the governorship there

  3. Jeff G. says:

    math says the dirty socialist AFSCME union whores are spending 26.7% less nationally than Meg Whitman ($119M) is spending of her own monies just in the state of California to buy the governorship there

    Thanks for pointing that out, happy. After all, her spending her own money is precisely the same — nay, WORSE — than what this article addresses.

    I’m revisiting my thoughts on same sex marriage, but only because I want to see you and Allah together in a nice Tudor.

  4. happyfeet says:

    hey that wasn’t me I was just relaying what math says

  5. happyfeet says:

    math is shy

  6. Abe Froman says:

    And to think there are still people who don’t point and laugh at this idiot.

  7. happyfeet says:

    I think that’s neat about the revisiting though – but I think if you marry Allah you have to marry his college loans too

    fuck that action

  8. Jeff G. says:

    hey that wasn’t me I was just relaying what math says

    No, that was you, posting that here, in an attempt to…what, exactly?

    Show that Meg Whitman is spending her own money on her campaign? To try to defeat a guy with huge name recognition in the state?

  9. JD says:

    Chamber of Commerce is evil. Unions are pure and good.

  10. Jeff G. says:

    I’m outta here.

    This just gets too fucking tiring, day after day after day.

  11. happyfeet says:

    I just think it’s interesting how much money she’s spending on one race in one state compared to how much the government union whores are spending all over the whole America

  12. Darleen says:

    griefer

    shut the fuck up about California. Period. Go eat a prozac cupcake and zone out until 11/3.

    Just remember, the failure of CA — which you constantly aggitate for with much glee and zeal- will necessarily affect the rest of the nation and not for the good. Either you never “think” beyond the end of your faux-staunchiest nose, or that’s your real desire.

  13. Jeff G. says:

    happy —

    I actually hope Brown wins. I’m not terribly high on Whitman, who seems to me a kind of squish GOPer, so let California have the government it asks for. It creates that sharp relief I’m so fond of, and will help in the long term get actual conservatives and classical liberals elected to save the country from itself.

    Plus, when California tumbles into the sea, like Steely Dan promised, I’m that much closer to having beachfront property.

  14. Darleen says:

    one last thing – Meg’s money is HER’s. The money she’s spending is going into CA’s struggling econ. Public employee unions are using taxpayer money.

    Government employees should never been allowed to unionize – From JFK to Jerry Brown, know who is responsible for it.

  15. happyfeet says:

    Government employees should never been allowed to unionize.

  16. Carin says:

    e dirty socialist AFSCME union whores are spending 26.7% less nationally than Meg Whitman ($119M) is spending of her own monies just in the state of California to buy the governorship there

    Yea, and remember how Meg Whitman made out like a bandit from the stimulus – propping her up and insuring she didn’t lay off any employees?

    Oh, and remember how Meg Whitman’s pension is going to need bailing out by the taxpayers.

    Exactly the same.

    FUCK AFSCME. this is the story that got my blood boiling this morning.

  17. Carin says:

    They shouldn’t have but they did and now they control us.

    To me, this is a tad of a bigger problem than whether some politician is a lifeydoodle.

  18. happyfeet says:

    you’ll be happy to know Darleen I’ve decided to hold my nose and vote for Fiorina but that’s mostly cause I want to go vote for the pot legalizings and the Prop 23 and Boxer serves no purpose whatsoever… but no I’m not voting in the gov or lt gov races…

    I have to research the other propositions this weekend

  19. cranky-d says:

    Yet another thread that’s about happyfeet’s issues. Lovely.

  20. JD says:

    How could you not vote against Gavin Newdouchebag, happy feet?

  21. happyfeet says:

    his opponent opposes Prop 23 just like Gavin and Meg… plus he’s a whore

    it’s a whore v. whore world out here

  22. dicentra says:

    Soros has put a $1,000,000 bounty on Glenn Beck’s head, or at least that’s how Glenn puts it. Soros has begun a concerted effort to get Beck off the air.

    Which, he also invested big bank to prevent Dubya’s reelection.

    Either way, there’s that thing about catching flak only when you’re above the target. Them as says Beck is too over-the-top might want to consider what he’s over the top OF.

    Given the reaction of Obama and Soros and their minions, it sounds like Glenn’s alleged conspiracy theories aren’t all that theoretical.

    Just sayin’

  23. LBascom says:

    Ummm, I was going to point out $87 million is chump change , comparing it to how Whitman payed more than that by herself out of pocket, and how she was cutting deals with public unions even though she outspent the national public unions contributions all buy(sorry) herself, but I guess that would make me look bad, so never mind.

    Public unions must go, their existence is a conflict of interest. Unfortunately, I hear no politicians making that case.

  24. Darleen says:

    hf,

    remember prop 13? the only thing that provides even a hint of stability in the housing market?

    Jerry Brown fought like the devil against it as Governor in the 70s and refuses to say if he’ll leave it alone if he gets elected this time.

    fuck you if you don’t vote against Brown.

  25. Darleen says:

    JD

    I hate Abe, but I hate Newsome more. Luckily, LtGov in CA is a kind of placeholder job; waiting around for the Gov to leave the state once in a while.

  26. JD says:

    Newsome’s stunt in flaunting the law, defiantly ignoring the law, should disqualify him from office.

  27. I knew there was a reason I put the ‘Hammer on HF last night. Saw this coming, I did.

    Now the only question is whether the days after the election will quiet him down, or merely cause him to refocus his hatehateHATE on a certain former governor of a certain sparsely populated extraterritorial U.S. state.

  28. LBascom says:

    “fuck you if you don’t vote against Brown.”

    What if I vote for someone other than Brown or Whitman?

  29. JD says:

    Lee – That is the same as voting FOR Brown, and proof you are supporting him.

  30. mojo says:

    Spend and be damned. Ain’t gonna do a bit of good, and then you’ll be broke.

  31. cranky-d says:

    Spend and be damned. Ain’t gonna do a bit of good, and then you’ll be broke.

    That is excellent advice. I’ve lived my whole life that way.

  32. cranky-d says:

    So much for my blockquoting skilz.

  33. LBascom says:

    Am I insane? I’m trying not to be…

  34. Bob Reed says:

    One of Ace’s co-bloggers sums it up pretty nicely:

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/307202.php

    If I were Tom Friedman for a day and I could wish for some totalitarian measure to be imposed on the US, I’d wish for a way to make public employee unions illegal or at least prevent them from spending on campaigns. There’s something deeply corrupting about employees bribing their managers (politicians) to shovel the money of the owners (citizens) to them.

    Why, there ought to be a law! Better yet, there oughtn’t be public employee unions…

    We never had one at the Navy.

  35. Rob Crawford says:

    As I pointed out in Ace’s comments, it doesn’t take a totalitarian to break up Big Labor.

    Enforce anti-trust laws.

  36. guinsPen says:

    it’s a whore v. whore world out here

    And you are their teenage drama queen.

  37. Darleen says:

    Lee

    A vote for a loser 3rd party is what the CA Social Dems would love you to do, it’s counted in Moonbeam’s column.

    My parent’s would have lost their home if Prop 13 weren’t passed – oh they could easily pay their mortgage. But the overheated real estate market at the time had at the time had the county assessors sending out to ALL homeowners, including my parents, new tax bills not just annually, but even quarterly without ever visiting the homes – merely watching what the “experts” predicted as market value – and declaring it “assessed” value for property taxes (the rate IIRC at the time was 5-6% of assessed value)

    Whole modest, working class, middle class homes in upcoming trendy places were devastated (a lot of inside collusion going on between county assessors and local deep-pocket developers)

    The Wiki article on the “background” is full of shit that it was just inflation that hit only fixed-income people “hard”. My parents, in their late 30’s had just bought their home in 1968 and my dad was a very well paid corp advertising exec. The home wasn’t even in what was considered a “hip” area of OC at the time. But about 2 years later, the housing market went nutz and my parents were receiving “reassessments” about every 3 months and their projected taxes based were soon going to outstrip their mortgage and insurance pmts!

    Sacramento’s response? Hey, sell your house and buy somewhere else. And the real kicker was politicians feeling cocky enough to publicly say that retired people had no right to be staying in “more house than they need” when so many families needed homes.

    A version of that last, IIRC, came from Moonbeams own mouth.

    You have no idea of the fury that caused and how it fueled Prop 13s passage.

  38. Darleen says:

    btw, my parents are still in the same home, it’s paid off and screw anyone that believes they aren’t entitled to stay there because it’s “too big” for them.

  39. Bob Reed says:

    And of course, I left out the part about us having to bail out the public union’s pension funds, along with the other unions; because they’ve spent all of the money that should have been going to those funds over the years getting the communist Democrats elected.

    Surely part of the Midwest Academy’s strategy…

  40. Darleen says:

    Lee

    I notice that all comments have to be approved. Heh.

    the ad? meh, edited phrases doesn’t mean the same person. Arnold proved by his second year he had a glass jaw and handed his balls over to Maria and started governing as a center-left greenie.

    So I guess it’s go all hog green and far left with Brown?

  41. JD says:

    So, Lee, any vote for anyone other than Team R is a vote FOR Brown, and proves you support Brown. Told ya.

  42. Bob Reed says:

    As Geddy Lee of Rush fame said, “…if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice…”

    Not voting for Whitman or Fiorina is essentially casting a vote for Brown and Boxer.

    But, it’s your prerogative as Californians.

  43. LBascom says:

    Yeah Darleen, the state is on fire. Brown is gasoline, and Meg is diesel fuel.

    My pissing on the fire might not do any good, but I’m not convinced it is worse than the first two choices.

  44. JD says:

    Shrugs shoulders, sighs, and walks away.

  45. happyfeet says:

    what’s that? it’s ok you can whisper it to me.

    oh. Got it. math says not casting a vote for Whitman is *not* the same as casting a vote for Brown.

    Now he’s busting out with the jelly beans and jars again.

  46. Bob Reed says:

    I’m not being critical of anyone here; I’d like to state that clearly. As a former resident of DC, where conservatives are non-existent, save for those in Congress representing other areas, and the People’s Republic of Maryland, where there are so few registered Rethugs! that the board of elections approached me to be an election judge in Prince Georges county, I’ve spent many a year in the position of choosing the lesser of two evils; voting for RINOs.

    I can sympathize.

    But I personally never saw any actual, credible, chance in the Triumphant! rise of the Righteous! third party that I always hear spoken of in expectant and hushed tones; the one that would save is from the equally corrupt and equally vile Rethugs! and Dems!…

    There is no easy answer, and it’s one’s right to register a protest vote. But facts are stubborn things. And the facts are that votes for Perot got Clinton elected, and dissatisfied Buchannan purists sitting on their hands got him re-elected; just as surely as their analogues in California may get Brown and Boxer elected.

    Is it the party’s fault for not choosing better candidates? Maybe. But I thought we’d hashed out the whole issue of the candidates being the people’s choice, not the party’s, in the threads about O’Donnell being good and Rove and Krauthammer being evil, sellout, establishment, Rethug! party apparatchiks.

  47. bh says:

    fuck you if you don’t vote against Brown.

    This is the opposite of persuasion.

  48. Bob Reed says:

    Sage words JD,
    This discussion is best left among the Californians. Although, I admit to coveting the possibility to participate in firing Senator Ma’am; you know, for the General.

    Inter-service participation and all.

    But, I guess I have to go to confession this weekend, since, coveting is on the bad list…

  49. LBascom says:

    “Not voting for Whitman or Fiorina is essentially casting a vote for Brown and Boxer.”

    Gee Bob, if only team R had that attitude towards O’Donnell and Miller. I wonder why they don’t?

  50. Darleen says:

    An acquisition property tax policy is predictable and removes the problem of subjective assessments by assessors, while protecting homeowners against prohibitive property tax increases.

    Lee, take a peek at this article on Indybay.org dealing with Prop 13 and Brown. He stumbles when describing Prop 13’s parameters, but overall it will give you a good background of what lead to it (wave at his dad, Pat Brown, and his roll in accounting tricks and deficit spending) including how, since Prop 13 has become of symbol of taxpayer revolt, it has also become the symbol for those that think Gov Knows Best to blame it for every ill imaginable, from a bridge collapsing to Polly Klaas’ murder (I’m not kidding).

    The first comment to this article? why is this pro-capitalist, right-wing piece of garbage on indybay?

    Are you understanding what the stakes are?

  51. Darleen says:

    Gee Bob, if only team R had that attitude towards O’Donnell and Miller. I wonder why they don’t?

    I’m sorry, Lee, are we at the primaries OR THE F*CKING ELECTION?

    There’s a reason I’m glad there was a vibrant Nadar movement on the left in 2000 post-primary season, kept us from getting President Albert Gore.

  52. JD says:

    Bob – I understand the sentiment, I just do not agree with the “if you do not for for X, then you support Y” construct. Never have, never will. No matter how many times Darleen tells me to fuck off.

  53. Bob Reed says:

    I agree Lee, and I say the same thing whenever the discussion has turned to those races.

    O’Donnell and Miller deserve the backing of team R. And I’m pretty sure they’ve backed them both, at least financially, though they were admittedly lax in getting behind O’Donnell right away and McConnel should have stripped Princess Lisa of her committee chair. I’m thinking he’s done as leader in the Senate anyway.

    And at least team R isn’t advocating voting for their opponents, as far as I can tell.

    Lee, this isn’t some loyalty speech on my part, I don’t advocate straight ticket voting nor have I always done so myself. I’m not being critical of you nor anyone else; as I said, this is a matter for Californians to grapple with really, the rest of us are only vicarious on-lookers and kibbutzers.

    It’s ones individual choice to vote for their preferred candidate, and no explanations are required nor necessary to anyone. If you personally feel it would be better to let Brown take California over the cliff, so to speak, then that’s your choice. And while it’s a shame that the nation will have to suffer for that eventuality as well as the caprices of Senator Ma’am for another 6 years, it’s no worse than having to suffer the impending bankruptcy of NY, or Schumer and Gillebrand.

    You may be right, the others may take us to the same result, just a bit more slowly. And you can say with a clear conscience that you didn’t vote for the culprits nor enable the team R RINOs to be accesories. It’t not science, and accurate predictions can’t be made. Only time will tell.

    I’m not being critical, just tossing my two cents about. On the other hand, you all, in California, have real currency to put up.

  54. Abe Froman says:

    I just want California to crash and burn. I don’t even care who gets the blame for it. All I ask is that we build a fence so the people can’t escape. Because, like Massholes infesting New Hampshire, people relocate because their state sucks yet continue voting the same way.

  55. Bob Reed says:

    That’s true Abe,
    The “Massholes” are a great example. Another is how parts of Florida became so “true-blue” in areas like Boca, Tampa, and Miami; all the places that New Yorkers move to.

    Funny how you don’t see that same phenomena in the bicuit eatin’ panhandle up by Alabamy.

  56. LBascom says:

    “Are you understanding what the stakes are?”

    Let’s see, after eight years of an R governor, I’m sitting home on a weekday, watching Meg pander to Mexicans working at a packing plant. Yeah, I think I have a handle on it.

    Do you understand Meg ain’t going to do one fucking thing needs doing to save the ship? She’s a open borders greeny making deals with public unions. Vote for her if you think she’s the answer, but I think you’re the one full of shit telling me if I don’t vote for her I’m responsible for the states doom. Neither one is going to stop it.

  57. Darleen says:

    This is the opposite of persuasion

    Sorry, bh, but at this point and with all the evidence at hand, I’m friggin tired of having to explain reality to adults who should know better.

    I am watching the state I was born and raised in being eviserated before my eyes and I’m supposed to cheer about it??

    goddamn but I want to through my remote at the tv anytime I see Brown’s fucking face.

    in 1983 when he left office, CA had a 11% unemployment rate, it was rated the 2nd worst state to try and establish a business in, and my ex and I (with 3 small children) had just managed to scrape together enough downpayment to have the priviledge to buy a 1600 sq foot home where the builder offered to buy down the mortgage interest rate to 10.2% … NOT a typo as without the buydown, mortgages were going for about 12% up or down a few tenths. I really envied my parent’s 1968 mortgage with the 7% fixed.

    It wasn’t Prop 13 that has caused every ill, it is was every expanding government and always manages to both grow itself AND outspend all revenue received, even when that revenue’s increases well exceeds the increases in population (who one might assume might be the only reason to an increase in public service spending).

    SHEEEESH

  58. bh says:

    With the stakes that high then, I’d redouble my efforts to craft arguments that make things click in other people’s head while staying as friendly as possible.

    This, on the other hand, just kills any chance you have of success: […]”I’m friggin tired of having to explain reality to adults who should know better.”

    If I was working on Whitman’s campaign, I’d tell you to take a break and come back refreshed. ‘Cause shit-talking potential voters simply doesn’t work.

  59. LTC John says:

    I do not want to see CA crash and burn – for MY tax dollars will go down the drain to save it, or, maybe not but the rest of the US will suffer as 1 in 9 Americans will be in a state that leaves them little purchasing power, etc.

    Of course, I may have my revenge on CA, as I am in IL, and we could end up winning a race to the “we are broke” point…ha!

  60. Frontman says:

    To some extent, California is a test case for the rest of the country. A series of bad choices which eventually lead to no choices.

    I am at a loss where those better choices will come from in the interim.

  61. Darleen says:

    you know, bh, some people don’t want to be convinced because they have other agendas (not lee, but others) … they really believe that a vote for Brown means more government goodies and screwing all the “rich” people is just a side bonus. They’re the moochers – inside and outside of government, who have all the moral fortitude of guppy eatting its own young. Hey let the next generation or two take care of this, I want my government cheese NOW!

  62. happyfeet says:

    one’s got a weasel and the other’s got a flag

  63. bh says:

    You’ll never get those votes, D. So forget them and don’t let your frustration with that group hurt your ability to convince the get-ables.

    Look, I’ll go knock on doors for hours and hours tomorrow. My success rate is going to be very low because I’ll speak to a large number of Dems and the apathetic. It is what it is.

    I’m going to smile at every single door though. Why? Because I think what I’m doing is worthwhile so I’ll do it to the best of my ability.

  64. Darleen says:

    from the article I linked above for Lee

    In addition, Proposition 13 required that all state tax rate increases be approved by a two-thirds vote of the legislature and that local tax rates also have to be approved by a vote of the people. The people’s right to vote on taxes is a key taxpayer protection.

    So, what happened next? Well, that depends on whom you ask.

    When the interstate highway collapsed during the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake in the San Francisco Bay Area, an editorial cartoon appearing in the Los Angeles Times showed a car crushed by a freeway, and the license plate of the car read: Prop 13.

    When 12-year old Polly Klass was abducted from her home in Petaluma, California north of San Francisco, and brutally murdered, Proposition 13 was judged culpable in the crime by national columnist and noted author Richard Reeves in a Money Magazine article. Reeves wrote that the killer might have been apprehended before the murder took place if only the police had advanced communication equipment which was surely denied them by the Proposition 13 tax cuts.

    How absurd can it get? Try this one. In his TRB column in the New Republic of October 23, 1995, Robert Wright listed his reasons that the O. J. Simpson criminal trial ended without a conviction. His number one reason — Howard Jarvis and Proposition 13!

    He argued that because Proposition 13 cut taxes, the city and county of Los Angeles had inadequate funds to hire a competent coroner and competent police officials — and, basically, you get what you pay for. There’s a problem with this theory, however. On every rung of the ladder from rookie cop on up, the Los Angeles Police Department paid higher salaries than the police departments in the other two largest cities in the country, New York and Chicago.

    In biblical times unfortunate occurrences and unexpected terrors called plagues came from the hand of God. In twentieth century California, modern plagues apparently are the result of Proposition 13.

    Proposition 13 has been and continues to be the victim of scapegoating for all the ills that befall California.

    It is not surprising that Proposition 13 is blamed for all of California’s problems. The bureaucracy doesn’t miss an opportunity to blame Prop 13 for its own failings as they repeat the mantra for any faulty service: “It’s Proposition 13’s fault.”

    In reality, property taxes mean you never really own your property. It’s an asset tax … as if the government declared annual taxes on all diamond engagement rings and on your 50th wedding anniversary you were still paying a few hundred dollars a year on it or may have had to sell it long ago because, if you couldn’t afford to pay the tax on it, by golly think of all those young people who just can’t find a nice enough ring for themselves.

  65. bh says:

    That song has one of my favorite lines.

    don’t believe everything that you breathe

    That’s so true.

  66. Abe Froman says:

    That song should be hf’s anthem. For the title, mostly. But also for the solidarity of bizarre little peoples what partake of the Scientologies or cream cheese frosting on red cake.

  67. happyfeet says:

    I’ll never be… a gentleman

    just facing facts

    my face isn’t right*

  68. Darleen says:

    Hey, here’s a great way to close the Fed deficit! A material tax — IE, a tax on every material thing you own. I mean, you were flush enough to buy that pair of jeans and a shirt, why not a $1 a year tax on each of those material things until you don’t own them anymore? Look at the possibilities – your $ will help those poor people without jeans. You’ll be tempted not to throw them out but turn them into government centers to get your tax reduced. This is great, teaching charity, frugality and getting you not to be too marterialistic (oh we the gov will make sure not to go too far, we still want out $ so we still do want you to buy, just under our direction).

    And when every material object in your home is registered for a very modest tax system (we promise!), it will just help us more to help you if we feel you’re not consuming in a very productive (according to our definition of the word, which changes from time to time) manner.

    Thing of the possiblities!

  69. Spiny Norman says:

    I just want California to crash and burn. I don’t even care who gets the blame for it. All I ask is that we build a fence so the people can’t escape. Because, like Massholes infesting New Hampshire, people relocate because their state sucks yet continue voting the same way.

    You would, wouldn’t you? It’s those Masshole New England left-liberals who migrated here in the 1960s ad 1970s who have created this mess, and now you won’t let us send them back?

  70. cranky-d says:

    At least with property taxes you are paying for services like the police and firemen and the like. I’m not saying it’s the best way to go at all, I’m saying they can be justified if you squint a lot. I’m sure at this point that property taxes pay for a lot of other things as well.

    I understand where you’re coming from on Prop 13. My father lives in San Diego in a tract ranch-style house long paid for, in a neighborhood that saw values skyrocket to almost $700K and fall back down again. He probably would have had to leave when the taxes went up, and that would have sucked, because I know how much he likes it there.

  71. Darleen says:

    Vote for her if you think she’s the answer

    I’m voting AGAINST Brown and Meg’s the only one close enough to do it.

    what the fuck am I supposed to do when my parents, inlaws, aunt, cousins, kids and grandkids all here in this state with me? Stand aside and watch their home/lives ruined by Moonbeam? Sure he might get in, but I’m not going to help him. You are.

  72. happyfeet says:

    hah here Darleen this is awesome for to research the propositions

    it’s the proposition song let’s all be singin’ along!

  73. happyfeet says:

    I’m not sure about prop 25

    That one wants to change passing a budget from 2/3 to a majority. I might have to read more thinkings about that one.

  74. Abe Froman says:

    I didn’t listen to the song, but just looking at the dirty mutants in the still pretty much sums up California.

  75. Gee Bob, if only team R had that attitude towards O’Donnell and Miller.

    Each person is responsible for his or her own decision, and the consequences of same.

    Don’t try to shift the blame for California’s future onto someone else. The blame lies with those in California who vote for former Gov. Cowabunga and follow him headlong off the cliff.

  76. happyfeet says:

    they made the song nonpartisan Mr. Abe and they worked really hard I think

  77. geoffb says:

    a tax on every material thing you own.

    And the totally fun yearly experience of hosting the IRS as they paw through your home documenting and pricing everything you own. Taxman Party Day, yay.

    I’m a packrat so I’d merit a week.

  78. Abe Froman says:

    I don’t care about the song. They still stink of dirty progtard from their ugly hats to their bad clothes. So sing, I say, but do it under a tree with grotesquely over-sized coconuts about to fall.

  79. happyfeet says:

    you’re a curmudgeon

  80. Abe Froman says:

    That’s not true. If anyone else had posted it I’d be all look at those mellifluously warbling musical virtuosos what are snappy dressers n’ shit.

  81. Mueller,Private Eye says:

    #79
    It’s a tough job, but some body has to do it.
    I’ve been practicing for 59 years.

  82. Mueller,Private Eye says:

    Yes. I’m extremely immature for my age.

  83. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Maybe we should adopt an absolute majority requirement together with instantaneous runoff preference rankings. At least then we’d know when a vote for a 3rd-/4th-/5th-/other- party candidate was and was not a vote for the greater of two evils.

  84. Ernst Schreiber says:

    if only team R had that attitude towards O’Donnell and Miller

    Actually, they do have the same attitude. The problem is the team R can’t decide if it’s a team or a fraternity.

  85. Darleen says:

    Comment by Kevin McGehee on 10/22

    actually the blame is on those that vote to keep sending back the most insane socialists in the Dem party to the State Legislature each time. It is such a place of imbecility wrapped in arrogance all dipped in a smooth rich coating of invincibility, that the only hope is to keep even a nominal R in the Governorship to veto bills.

    That’s why, too, the Dems have had a stick up their ass since 1978 about prop 13.. its 2/3 voting requirements keeps them from declaring outright CA a fully socialist state.

    The blue areas are tight dots of Frisco and Los Angeles with all the working/farming/productive parts are red away from those places.

    the situation is infuriating because those blue cities are filled with Leftists not from CA.

  86. LBascom says:

    “Sure he might get in, but I’m not going to help him. You are.”

    Fine. Whatever.

    If I’m going to take the blame, then it makes no difference if I promote and vote for him, right?

    JERRY BROWN 2010!!

  87. LBascom says:

    Is California better off after eight years of RINO rule? HELL NO!

    Jerry Brown, he’s our man! Jerry will fix it, yes he can!

    VOTE BROWN!

  88. LBascom says:

    I’m going to try and vote for Jerry twice. It’ll be the same as not voting for Meg twice.

    ‘Cuz I didn’t vote for Meg during the primaries, see…

  89. Spiny Norman says:

    the situation is infuriating because those blue cities are filled with Leftists not from CA.

    To see where they’re from, go to a Dodgers or Angels game when they’re playing an Eastern Division club and, chances are, there will be more fans of the opposing team in the stands. Red Sox and Yankees fans are always out in force at Anaheim/Angels Stadium.

  90. Abe Froman says:

    Sure, blame East Coasters. Like Manhattan isn’t full of gay-assed Californicators with their coffee enemas and filthy organic soy-based fake chicken nuggets.

  91. Ernst Schreiber says:

    California needs to be nuked from orbit.

    It’s the only way to be sure.

  92. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Same goes for the northeastern seaboard

  93. Abe Froman says:

    Chicago and Minneapolis get a free pass?

  94. bh says:

    Careful now.

    This is how we lost Biggie and Tupac.

  95. Darleen says:

    California needs to be nuked from orbit.

    So, how’s that food thing looking for you? I mean, if being dependent on foreign oil makes you nervous, how about foreign food?

  96. Darleen says:

    Is California better off after eight years of RINO rule? HELL NO!

    And would it have gotten any better under a continued Dem Gov/Dem Legislature? HELL NO!

  97. newrouter says:

    California needs to be nuked from orbit.

    just sacramento with a neutron bomb

  98. happyfeet says:

    we can’t afford to nuke anything we’re poor

  99. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Chicago and Minneapolis get a free pass?

    All those refugees gotta have somewhere to go.

    how’s that food thing looking for you?

    freshly frozen fruits and vegetables are overrated

  100. LBascom says:

    K, I’ll stop being absurd.

    I lived in Wyoming, graduated HS there. Sportsman’s paradise; hunting, fishing, few fences. Friendliest people ever, drive down the street and everybody waves at you. Anyway, we all hated California people, especially during hunting season when they’re the thickest.

    They’d show up acting all superior, we’re bitter clinger hicks don’t you know, then head up to the hills marking their trail with trash and where they would keep half the locals ducking, and the other half getting them out of tight spots( have to help a guy get unstuck in rough country, driving by and laughing was what California people do).

    Damned unsavory lot.

    Now I are one. Shit.

    It’s ok, things get as bad as I fear, I’m headed for Alberta. I have kin there…

  101. bh says:

    I think we can all agree that the Vikings, Lions and Bears are all filthy socialists.

  102. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I think we can all agree that the Vikings, Lions and Bears are all filthy socialists.

    So long as we all agree that the Packers are putrid communist scum, we can.

  103. Ernst Schreiber says:

    But whatever our differences, we can all thank God that we’re not the AFC.

  104. Ernst Schreiber says:

    …things get as bad as I fear, I’m headed for Alberta.

    The Ontario sickness will get there eventually, if the Vancouver disease doesn’t get there first.

  105. Abe Froman says:

    I grew up a Vikings fan. I’m not sure the NFC Central even qualified as a failed economic system. Paleolithic knuckle draggers, the lot of em’.

  106. geoffb says:

    Proud “Paleolithic knuckle draggers” sir, proud.

  107. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Except maybe Alan Page. Even a lowly state supreme court is to highbrow to admit a knuckledragger.

  108. LBascom says:

    “And would it have gotten any better under a continued Dem Gov/Dem Legislature? HELL NO!”

    So, I see on the news this morning we San Joaquin Valley dwellers(and only us) are being hit with an increase in car registration ($12) because of our air. Seems we were outside the allowed ozone levels four days last year.

    If Davis would have stayed in office, he probably would have made it $14, granted.

    Thing is, Arnold is responsible for prop 23 being necessary, and Meg is against it too.

    They. Don’t. Get. It.

  109. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Too much onshore flow, not enough Santa Ana wind.

  110. newrouter says:

    Seems we were outside the allowed ozone levels four days last year.

    the standard was changed a few years back. the violations were decreasing so something had to be done.

  111. Bob Reed says:

    -happyfeet,
    Don’t worry about the nukes; they’re bought and paid for. And depending on the target, I know some bubbleheads that would be happy to deliver one, pro bono

    -Ernst,
    Before you do any nuking of the northeast, do a brother a solid and drop me a line; I’m sinker here in NY, muh man, deeeeeeeep cover…

  112. LBascom says:

    “The Ontario sickness will get there eventually, if the Vancouver disease doesn’t get there first.”

    HA! The Vancouver scourge will never scale the Rocky’s, and Saskatchewan guards our rear(mooning Quebec, see). No one wants to go to Saskatchewan.

  113. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I’ve decided nuking is too good, too quick, merciful. As I am the Evil Dr. Porkchop of SoCon rightwingers, it’s Death By Monkeys for all you coast dwellers. Shai Hallud knows his own, and your water belongs to the tribe anyways.

    (how’s that for a terribly mixed metaphor?)

  114. Bob Reed says:

    Wow, Ernst. With a, er, creative mind like that you should be with “the company” :)

  115. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Don’t you mean “the outfit”?

  116. happyfeet says:

    Barack Obama missed a golden opportunity to overhaul the US healthcare system, says Phil Bredesen, the Democratic governor of Tennessee. Instead, the US president simply loaded the existing system with new costs that will escalate over time.

    Mr Bredesen, who is seen as one of America’s most effective governors, also said the “corrupted integrity” of the healthcare bill, which was passed in March, helped fuel the popular backlash that could lead to a loss of Democratic control of the House of Representatives in the midterm elections on November 2. *

    Looks like Team Socialist is toying with the idea of straight up blaming bumblefuck for the whole fiasco.

  117. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Looks like Team Socialist is toying with the idea of straight up blaming bumblefuck for the whole fiasco.

    Looks more like Team Bredesen plans on keeping its options open since it’s going to be out of work come January.

  118. Spiny Norman says:

    Barack Obama missed a golden opportunity to overhaul the US healthcare system, says Phil Bredesen, the Democratic governor of Tennessee. Instead, the US president simply loaded the existing system with new costs that will escalate over time.

    Someone needs to inform the Guvn’ah that this is not a bug, but a FEATURE. Overloading the system is the ultimate intent…

  119. Ernst Schreiber says:

    In any event, loading the existing system with new costs is invariably part of the leftist solution to any problem. I mean, there’s a reason all that thrown money won’t stick.

  120. LTC John says:

    #94 – By God, sir, that was good.

    #108 – The Bears got a guy on the IL SCT bench…a kicker… Bob Thomas. Oy.

  121. Mueller, says:

    #114
    I don’t know, but it’s got monkeys in it. So it’s good.

  122. JD says:

    Monkeys are not quite as evil as midgets, or clowns, but they are close.

  123. JD says:

    3 of the 5 top independent spenders are unions. 2 of those are pubic employee unions. Anyone calling on their books to be audited?

  124. happyfeet says:

    READER POLL!!!

    Choose Your Favorite Name For Those Anonymous Funders

    “Unidentified Funding Organizations (UFOs)”
    “Secret Donor Groups”
    “Political Influence Groups (PIGs)”
    ” Anonymous Interest Groups”
    “Cammouflobbyists”
    “Cloak and Dagger Organizations”*

    ooh I know. Why don’t we call them “groups like moveon.org what NPR propaganda whore Andrea Seabrook wasn’t concerned about until they were seen to be disproportionately benefiting Team R”?

  125. JD says:

    Ironic that they do not disproportionately benefit Team R. The narrative is strong with the MFM.

  126. happyfeet says:

    Obama promised that the measure ensures that taxpayers will “never again be on the hook for a bailout.”

    so what does bumblefuck think it’s going to be called when his union whore pals ass-rape the treasury for pension monies?

  127. happyfeet says:

    *link* I mean… links are getting harder lately for some reason

  128. JD says:

    That is not a bailout, happyfeet. That is outright theft.

  129. Bob Reed says:

    The irony is even stronger when one recalls, as I keep coming back to, that these public employee unions dropping large coin on the elections, that should probably be going instead to their underfunded pension funds, will be looking to have those very same pension funds bailed out by the rest of us.

    And yet, they have the nerve to continuously piss and moan about “The Influence! of Lobbyists!11!1!” and Special Interests!11!1!” buying our process.

    Just what are they doing? Only misappropriating rank-and-file member’s paid dues to get communists elected that will cover their malfeasance by sticking the rest of us with the bill. Because of the fairness

  130. Bob Reed says:

    Ooops…I essentially repeated what happyfeet said at #127. I guess I need to type faster!

  131. JD says:

    Bob – would that there were people in the MFM that would point that out. Or a conservative that would stand up and loudly denounce it.

  132. Bob Reed says:

    I’m thinking that time is at hand JD, or will be after November 2.

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