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- In The Mailbox: 02.28.23 (Afternoon Edition) : The Other McCain on Hey, longtime pw readers…
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but all that stuff from The One and Don’t Mess with Joe? Mere gaffes from speaking extemporaneously.
I mean, it’s not like Sarah is a real human being …
she’s stupid but at least she’s stupid in 140 characters or less…
would that Obama had such skeels
C’mon hf tell us how this still shows that Palin is some kind of moron snowbilly.
Um … also, Palin taking at a TEA Party event using the year of the Tea Party event???
Nuance is not the province of the Leftcult
She probably thinks there’s 50 states. Dipshit.
Nuance is not the province of the Leftcult
or those with PDS
I did not check who said that.
My first guess would have been happy, but he would have had some McCain comment mixed in too.
Oh Markos. What a suprise. How about we party in all 57 states with da One on November 3. I am sure Teresa and Kerry can supply the condiments for the BBQ.
She may not be Cicero but it’s just plain dumb to think that she’s stupid.
That’s just hilarious. Idiots.
Twitter is on the internet, right? That’s, like, also where Google lives.
she’s stupid but at least she’s stupid in 140 characters or less…
And unlike some other stupid people I know, she uses a different 140 characters each time and they never include the words cumslut or hoochie.
Can we not have another crappyfeet vs Palin thread?
“Can we not have another crappyfeet vs Palin thread?”
That would be a “no” apparently.
I have to admit I wouldn’t have known the Boston Tea Party took place in 1773. However, the date in question is before the American Revolution. Before starting mockery, I would have looked it up, just to be safe.
For being such a dummy, Sarah Palin just taught a bunch of people something they probably weren’t aware of.
Rob,
ALL PW threads are “crappyfeet vs Palin” threads.
Live it, love it.
o_O
what’s stupid I think is that a McCain leg-humper like this Palin bitch can conflate herself with the Tea Party and everyone thinks it’s neat-o mosquito… but this is the hoochie what campaigned to build the bridge to nowheres with porky porky pork and whose legacy includes an executive order what created a climate change office in Alaska. She’s a lying opportunistic whore in other words… which is a lot the antithesis of the Tea Party as I understand it.
Being called stupid by Markos Moulitsas is like being called a wimp by Justin Beiber.
What’s stupid is happyfeet parroting the same bigoted leftist garbage about Palin over and over and over and over…
Grow up.
Troll
prime number
“What’s stupid is happyfeet parroting the same bigoted leftist garbage about Palin over and over and over and over…”
Actually, this is different leftist garbage.
“campaigned to build the bridge to nowheres with porky porky pork ”
She actually campaigned for it? Link?
“legacy includes an executive order what created a climate change office in Alaska”
Interesting. Link?
Twitter?
Isn’t that something that twits do?
You know, you just can’t believe everything you read on the Internets.
Why, just the other day I was reading something on Wikipedia about Ms. O’Donnell, about how she belongs to a church that teaches that the Pope is the Antichrist. Then they said what denomination.
Turns out it’s the same Lutheran Synod I belong to, and as long as I’ve been attending service (about 10 years, and including some obligatory catechism classes to get me up to speed on the particulars) I’ve heard the Pope mentioned maybe once. And the word “Antichrist” mentioned zero times.
So, I think there’s a great deal of cranialrectosis going on, and I’m afraid happyfeet has caught him some and just can’t shake it.
– Palin just pants the entire Lefturd gaggle for all the internet to see.
– If she’s stupid what are they?
The fact that Palin is part of the story makes it a perfect place for happyfeet to act out. I hope he can confine it to here, rather than injecting it into every fucking thread.
– The Left just added to its creds as “the useful idiots”.
Oh, sorry. That was Michele Bachmann’s wiki page.
my goodness, a relevant post by that piece of drivel hf. . .
on the other hand, hf still can’t stop posting as in # 16
what an antithesis to a thinking human
molecular detritus, that he/she/it is
cranky I try very hard for to help people understand the Palin menace
There’s such a thing as trying too hard, hf. Instead of us thinking that Palin is a big poopyhead, we’re thinking that it is you that is a big poopyhead.
So: fail.
I really don’t want her to run for president, but if it would make your head explode, it might be worth it. That’s how effective you are.
Sarah Palin owns you, hf.
you should hope to meet a stauncher poopyhead Mr. Slarticus
SARAH PALIN IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT?????
(Googles frantically)
Oh. For a second there, I thought maybe feets almost had some kind of point. But as it is: not so much.
Staunch but highly annoying is still highly annoying.
G Ifill moderates Presidential debates. Kos essentially provided the framework for the progressive message machine that gave us Obama and helped get him elected.
That’s the point of my posting this. Not so that we could have yet another happy vs. the world thread.
happy thinks Palin is ditzy cumslut hoochie, just as he thinks most conservative women — if they happen to be religiously active — are cumslut hoochies. Maybe he was a bottle baby. Or maybe his mother used to make him wear bow ties for school pictures. I don’t honestly know.
What I do know is, he seems to get off on making threads about his hobbyhorses. Don’t let him, when he starts acting out.
Remember: only YOU can prevent forest fires.
G Ifill moderates Presidential debates.
Maybe she shouldn’t. Apparently she’s dumber than a post.
karl the rover doesn’t watch glenn beck
link
As the governor of the state she was elected to govern, Palin created a committee to study the real and foreseeable effects that climate change may have on the state she had been elected to govern. Wow, that’s menacing. Really. Far better to not study what may be a problem.
And then she made all of the people in the state change to energy-saving lightbulbs, and turn down the heat in their house, and buy hybrid trucks, and .. Oh wait, she didn’t do those things? Damn cumslut can’t make up her mind!
See? Rob’s got the idea!
But I love forest fires…and fucking hate bears!!!
But all in all, great advice.
sorry about the kerosene, Jeff.
Maybe he was a bottle baby. Or maybe his mother used to make him wear bow ties for school pictures.
Denying them the breast and then dressing them funny breeds deep seated resentment.
I was referring to Kos, but if it works for happy, okay too.
newrouter — I wish the establishment would get their story straight. The other day it was bad that Tea Partiers were reading Hayek, now they supposedly aren’t reading him and that’s bad?
I would dig Mark Levin moderating a debate.
Former Gov. Palin apparently is living rent-free inside certain people’s heads. Obviously this is an in-kind contribution to her political operation that is in violation of McCain-Feingold, and needs to be investigated.
WHY ARE YOU SUPPORTING THE PALIN MENACE WITH THE RENT-FREE ACCOMMODATIONS INSIDE YOUR HEAD, HAPPYFEET!?
True that about Ifill, too. How is that woman intelligent? How? Because to Kos and his “Feelings Trump Reason” gang of arrested adolescents, she’s the right shade and Palin is not.
Denying them the breast and then dressing them funny breeds deep seated resentment.
Must be why Progressive wives/girlfriends continue the process.
But they usually like it good and hard up the ass, B Moe. How’s that reconcile?
Because to Kos and his “Feelings Trump Reason” gang of arrested adolescents, she’s the right shade and Palin is not.
Shade and politics.
I do wonder what it would be like to have an unabashed conservative partisan moderating one of the debates. Levin or even Limbaugh — the ‘splodin’ heads would be hilarious.
Tea Party Event.
1773.
Could there be a connection? Naaaahhhhh!
It’s mindboggling what twitter is doing to reporters and commentators who no longer have the luxury of having editors look at their work before passing it on to the public. The underlying vacancy becomes so apparent its both funny and frightening – funny that these popmous chumps are doing this to themselves, frightening when you think of the respect, influence, and power these pompous chumps once had.
so in conclusion Sarah Palin is a big stupidhead what gets to conflate herself with the Tea Party with impunity even though she didn’t govern like a Tea Partier in her brief stint as governor of Alaska and even though she puts a lifeydoodle litmus test on all her endorsements… endorsements which are include Meghan’s nannystate whore father
I can see how this might be helpful to Sarah Palin but I don’t see how this is helpful to the party of tea.
Or maybe a moderator from the sinestrosphere and one from the dextrosphere.
Even better, make them both hot chicks and have a pit of warm jello between them. I’m more inclined to watch a debate if there’s the possibility of a catfight.
Kinda like the straw-that-broke-the-camels-back ethics complaint filed against then-Gov. Palin that donations to her legal defense fund amounted to “illegal campaign contributions”…
DarthRove knows how to get ratings.
Incorrigibility is a thing about us humans. It’s out there to be dealt with one way or another. We love. We can’t help it. And things get messy on account of it.
But why warm jello? Wouldn’t cold jello harden stuff better?
Taxed Enough Already.
Too subtle, maybe?
From the HuffPo:
Heh.
I have to admit I’m tempted to get a twitter account just to respond to everything Ifill says with “Ifill: Dumber than advertised!”
“The Climate Change Sub-Cabinet advises the Office of the Governor on the preparation and implementation of an Alaska climate change strategy”
Eh. Doesn’t outline the strategy. Show me where Palin spoke in favor of any global warming, liberty killing policies like Arnold has.
“As governor, Palin canceled the Gravina Island Bridge in September 2007, saying that Congress had “little interest in spending any more money” due to what she called “inaccurate portrayals of the projects.”
I would like to know more about Gravina Island, the site of the Ketchikan airport, and the change of circumstances over two years before passing judgment. Frankly, I’m not interested enough to research it. Even from the wiki page you linked, there is a baseline of conduct from Mrs. Palin that prompts me to give her the benefit of the doubt. Like turning down a personal jet, and refusing a pay raise.
Seems to me you are flailing happyfeet.
cranky I try very hard for to help people understand the Palin menace
No it was your way into nishi’s pants and you still can’t give it up… that unrequited lust
Iowahawk tweet:
@pbsgwen What kind of wallpaper did Palin choose for her rent-free apartment in your head?
just as he thinks most conservative women — if they happen to be religiously active — are cumslut hoochies
This is not even true. I like Marsha Blackburn and she’s a robust lifeydoodle but she co-sponsored Mr. Ryan’s roadmap which is a quintessentially staunch thing to do I think. I just think the bigoted christers like Sarah Palin what refuse to endorse someone what doesn’t conform to her white trash religious precepts are kinda not very helpful for Team R.
He has no choice but to flail. He’s in the bottom 1% of regulars here in terms of articulateness and quality of thought, but his emotive powers are second to none. A man’s gotta use the tools in his box.
Comment by LBascom on 10/19 @ 2:41 pm #
You forget that he has sole authority to determine who may and may not be in the tea party.
Respect his authoritahhh!
I see the MSM and lefty bloggers have called out their burial crews. Someone send this to Levin and O’Reilly and Beck please!
darleen that’s silly for you to think I want to sleep with nishi… she’s an internet friend who lives very far away I just think she’s a neat individual
White trash religious precepts?
Well, ‘feets, how long did you have to wait to get your autographed copy of American Taliban?
darleen that’s silly for you to think I want to sleep with nishi… she’s an internet friend who lives very far away I just think she’s a neat individual
which is one reason that I don’t accept your judgment on things.
I don’t think the Pope banning the Jesuits is anything to party about. Obviously this woman shouldn’t be in the national spotlight because my feelings have been hurt.
“I don’t see how this is helpful to the party of tea.”
I would wager you haven’t attended a Tea Party event, and I know you don’t get the movement. Palin is a participant of the Tea Party, not a leader. There is no leader. You’re worried an eagle may get branded and start grazing with the cattle. News for you. Try and brand an eagle all you want, but you’re dumb if you think you can make it graze.
Some of my best friends are white trash Christers.
Misanthropic eugenicist = neat individual.
White is black, up is down, Starsky is Hutch…
Jon Haidt: Karma
So why is this left academic painting the Tea Party as socially conservative? Just an idea what got into his head to do?
Sorry, Jeff. Sometimes I think that some kind of intervention might be in order, but those are hard to execute on the webs.
Stop feeding the dweeb, people.
White is black, up is down, Starsky is Hutch…
Jake is the Fatman, Turner is Hooch…
Except for that she’s not. You just got done calling Palin a bigot, but you think that nishi is a “neat individual”? Bullshit. Nishi’s a fucking retard. Regurgitating recent history is not intelligence in any way, shape or form.
I’m sure that if the nishbot showed any tendencies toward seeking office, the crappyfoot would call it all the usual vile names.
BECAUSE OF THE STAUNCHINESS!
sdferr
Amen.
Such are the trials and tribulations of the knee-jerk contrarian.
Such are the trials and tribulations of the knee-jerk contrarian.
He’s not a contrarian. He mindlessly espouses every last bit of leftist flapdoodle he’s imbibed in LA like the weak, suggestible chimp that he is. The only reason he can delude himself about his staunchness is because the vapid imbeciles he’s surrounded by don’t much bother with the issues on which he still swings to the right.
Mr. sdferr I think there’s been a widespread carelessness with respect to the suggesting of a relationship between the party of tea and social conservatism and I think the “Tea Party Express” ones have been more careless than most.
Whether Glenn Beck was careless or just idiosyncratic I never really decided.
The world is full of idiots like Kos and Ifill.
Most choose not to display it on the internet.
Most.
I was going to mention this but as we all know something like this would never diminish her chances of being a moderatrix of future Presidential debates.
He mindlessly espouses every last bit of leftist flapdoodle he’s imbibed in LA like the weak, suggestible chimp that he is.
Sure enough. He’s got that Leftcult meme “Social Conservative are fascists who hate happiness, pleasure and fluffy bunnies” down pat.
I don’t want ruin for lazy and irresponsible people, I want them to grow up and get a job.
Criminal behavior I want ruined.
Kos is an immature self satisfied douche who will likely never have to deal with the fact that he needs Sara Palin to be stupid so that he can be smart. For this, he is handsomely compensated. Truth is painful.
Lee
I think “ruin” is a relative word. What most people who believe in “what goes around comes around” is that people suffer the consequences of their actions — because maybe that kind of ruin will make them growup and get a job (aka act responsibly)
I had a great tutor at Al-anon who said every protective, supporting instinct I had towards my now ex alcoholic husband was just as poisonous to his recovery as the 750 ml bottle of Jim Beam he finished — 3 times a week. I had to let him reach bottom. And that “bottom” is different for each individual. For some the mere threat of losing their spouse gets them on track. For others it might mean completely losing everything – home, career and family, before they wise up.
The unintended consequences of LBJ’s “Great Society” are manifest not only in the inner-city but in a lot of outlying areas with rent low enough to allow the perpetual juveniles to live off government checks and petty crime.
I don’t want ruin for lazy and irresponsible people, I want them to grow up and get a job.
In both examples from the linked text, I believe that the cited behaviors would need to be applied consistently for some significant period of time before the cited ends came to pass. I don’t think any of us want to enjoy instant success for a little hard work, any more than we’d want our lives ruined by a moment of self-indulgence.
As far as the Tea Party continuing to function as a fusion of social cons and small-government cons, I think there won’t be a problem as long as the social cons stick with stuff like the linked “Karma” piece.
An example is she was able to use the Climate change panel data to argue against the EPA designation of
the Polar Bear as an endangered species, which she wrote about in her OP Ed in the NY Times, one of those examples, that might have settled the question; I guess Couric’s researcher was doing her nails, so she missed that detail. She is personally socially conservative, but her tenure in office, has been
very libertarian, kind of like Dagny Taggart with some obvious discrepancies
I think there won’t be a problem as long as the social cons stick with stuff like the linked “Karma” piece.
And I don’t think there will be a problem also as long as anytime a social con raises their hand to offer an opinion some ostensible small-gov staunchiness doesn’t scream “SHUT UP white trasher Crister fascist” at them.
MOST soc cons I know are not about Nannystate. And the social cons who are, are not small government cons in any sense of the word.
The R candidate for 2012 should take this opportunity to stop playing by the left’s rules on debates (and the whole media relationship actually). They have to stand up and refuse to lose before the game is played and embrace the reality: there are no objective reporters.
Each candidate picks a questioner, and both questioners ask both candidates questions. No live audience.
“I think there won’t be a problem as long as the social cons stick with stuff like the linked “Karma” piece.”
I didn’t really care for the “karma” piece. Dick Armey is not the leader of the T-movement, and I certainly don’t believe “for every action, there is an equal and morally commensurate reaction”.
I just think it’s a clumsy attempt to conflate the conservative perspective of law and order with the hipster concept of karma. Ain’t working for me.
I contest there is such a universal human desire(mine would be that there was more moral behavior in the first place), or any fanciful idea of inevitability of moral balance on planet earth. I mean, explain Robert Bird and Ted Kennedy.
Statistically speaking, bad behavior brings bad consequences. This isn’t always true individually speaking. Statistics are a fact of life, not a desire.
I don’t want anyone who smokes crack to be a lowlife, it’s just that’s usually how it turns out. There needs to be a law controlling crack, because crack addled lowlifes are a burden on society.
If you agree with that, welcome to the world of social cons.
@65: Spiny, Iowahawk is still laying the wood.
Good times.
My fav? “History Bowl Final: World’s Stupidest Wingnut 1773, you 0”.
Burn. Just horrid, horrid burn.
But…can you burn a douchey progressive hipster with words? Or does it’s self inflated douchey hipster douchiness make it immune? You know, like one of those cast people from Jersey Shore.
Or the nightly line up on MSNBC.
Like Jesse Ventura. I’m just asking questions.
There needs to be a law controlling crack, because crack addled lowlifes are a burden on society.
I don’t think referring to “karma” is hipster per se. “Karma is a bitch” is just a shorthanded of talking about moral consequences.
I want less law, so rather than laws controlling addicts, deprive them of their state-provided hammock. More efficient.
the universal human desire that moral accounts should be balanced with a belief that, somehow or other, they will be balanced.
This instinct is not limited to karma, the belief that there was order and purpose in the universe was an essential element of the enlightenment.
From Patrick Henry’s famous speech:
“Karma is a bitch” is just a shorthanded of talking about moral consequences.
Or, as I was told the other day, “Think long about what you’re doing dude. You go the wrong way off impulse and I guarantee the Universe will fuck you at the drive thru. That’s just the way it is.”
Truer words.
Like a lot of times the Universe will give you regular instead of diet and forget your rings.
#97 LBascom: well, we can get along on a “fellow travelers” basis, at least unless and until the present mess gets sorted out. But —
If you don’t want a nannystate, don’t advocate a nannystate.
Let’s go directly to the biggie: abortion. Abortion is a sin. People go to Hell for it. And you’ll find few people with a lower opinion than mine of Amanda Marcotte — but I know exactly where Amynda’s paranoia started.
See the woman across the street? She’s not your daughter, sister, wife, or any other relation. You don’t know her from Eve, except that she’s wearing more clothes (or maybe not).
What gives you the right to even know she’s pregnant or not? Or, conceding for the sake of argument that you have such a right, what shall we do? Organize a Cunt Police, charged with inspecting each vagina and associated equipment for signs of egg-fertilization? Gonna be a good-sized force; how is that compatible with “limited Government”? You’re gonna get a lot of volunteers with, um, ulterior motives. How you gonna sort that out? And what else are the CP gonna be tasked with, when somebody else gets elected?
It’s simple little questions like that that keep us libertarian-oriented folks alternately chuckling and looking out through the Red Curtain of Blind Rage. Parallel inquiries can be made about such things as drugs. They come out the same way: If your automatic response to social ills is “there oughta be a law”, the difference between you and the average leftoid is barely if at all detectable from where I sit; you just have different bogeymen.
As I said, we can work together, even if temporarily. You help me get rid of or tame the EPA et. al. and generally lighten the load of Government, and I’ll be glad to help you lift the very real persecution you and yours are suffering — both ills come from the same source, after all. But if you don’t want a nannystate, don’t demand the functions of a nannystate, and if you do, you and I shouldn’t be co-signing any notes.
Regards,
Ric
Darleen, I don’t believe in karma, so it’s gotta be hip. =)
#73 – I laughed at that so loudly at that one, I scared the cat…
I find Gwen’s “stand down people” remark even funnier than her historical ignorance. Kos closed comments, eh? Wonder if this will go down the memory hole?
Well Ric, I don’t want a nannystate.
I also don’t want just anyone writing prescriptions for potentially dangerous drugs either.
You have to admit some social ills require a law.
Welcome fellow social con…
Really? Why?
the proggs are for big gov’t when they make these issue a federal case. abortion et al can and should be state issues. if ca wants to smoke pot that’s ok to ok but not in ok
RTO, ‘cuz rape is wrong.
for Texas or California or Wisconsin to have the ability to tell people what live there whether or not they can have abortions does not represent a meaningful step forward for individual liberty I don’t think
Oh. SO all that budget slashing and reforming was what, feets?
You have to admit some social ills require a law.
Well, shit.
There go the Darwin Awards.
And America’s Dumbest Criminals
Thanks a lot.
Party pooper.
this is where progg’s decrying the homogenization of amerikkka with the same fast food, shop malls hotels really irks my dog. why can’t liberty, as understood by the us constitution, be defined by the folks in their states? if ca smokes a joint so that their too stoned to realize that they’re stepping of the cliff that’s ok in ok
Rape is wrong, but laws don’t prevent rape or any other ill. They only provide a man-made additional consequence. And only after the fact.
Shouldn’t Ifill lose her affirm action job over this? Can’t really ridicule her. You make fun of a black person doing something totally stupid, when all liberals think that same black person is brilliant: Pop goes the race card cuz the race card goes pop.
compare and contrast Mr. Howard
vs.
does not represent a meaningful step forward for individual liberty I don’t think
only if you consider unborn, viable fetuses just so much trash.
and other infants and people who are no longer socially useful are also less than human.
hf, you must just LOVE Dr. Zeke “Complete Lives System” Emmanuel a bro-in-ethics.
“Rape is wrong, but laws don’t prevent rape or any other ill”
Well I disagree…
RTO
Unless the government creates a “man-made” consequence for rape under Law, then there is no consequence for social ills of rape, murder, assault, theft, burglary, fraud and any other number of infringment on the rights of individuals.
Until the Welfare state is dismantalled, drug laws have to stay on the books – whether to force addicts into rehab (as how it is handled in CA. Addicts don’t do jail time just for being addicts) or jail. It’s not at all the best solution; however, I refuse to have some of my income going to provide addicts a hammock. They can clean up, be supported by voluntary charity groups (Salvation army provides a lot of rehab along with food and shelter) or they can die in the gutter. I do not want to be forced to provide them food and shelter and free drugs.
Darleen within certain parameters people get to decide if they want to have an abortion not the state. And for the most part the parameters protect the right of an individual to have an abortion by helping to maintain support for that right I think.
Me personally I think fetuses are neat little miniature people and I should prefer they be carried to term and put up for adoption so they can grow up to become staunch little pikachus but it’s not my call what happens to someone’s fetus I don’t even know. Sometimes reality intrudes and makes fetuses not a lot viable for any number of reasons.
Sent some feedback to the Ombudsman at PBS. The donation river, though dry, now will never flow again. It has been dammed.
I’m voting to make the marijuana legal in California
Darleen within certain parameters people get to decide if they want to have an abortion not the state. And for the most part the parameters protect the right of an individual to have an abortion by helping to maintain support for that right I think.
Jaysus, hf, have you NEVER read Roe v Wade??? Conclusion
And why can the state start putting brakes on abortion in 2nd & 3rd? Not just for safety, but for the increasing interests of the fetus as it becomes viable.
30-40 weeks gestation you have a viable human being just as a rights-endowed individual as a baby of 1 week old.
and please, abortion of non-viable fetuses (died in utero, has a condition where it cannot survive outside the womb, has no brain) is a straw-argument pro-aborts love making.
please go back to cupcake reviews christine
I agree that there is a place for laws, specifically criminal laws, and thus law enforcement. However, it is incorrect to state that there are no natural, or social, consequences for rape, murder, assault, theft, burglary, fraud (especailly in a society with a lack of laws for these, the social consequences — family and friends seeking retribution — could be quite severe). But revenge never ends and we may or may not agree that the natural consequences aren’t severe enough to suit our collective or individual sense of justice.
are you being dense on purpose? I’m saying that those sorts of parameters go a long way towards “civilizing” abortion, so to speak. If you didn’t have those and similar restrictions, like consent laws, the number of people what would support an individual’s freedom to have an abortion would become vanishingly small I think.
Ric said “If your automatic response to social ills is ‘there oughta be a law'”
legal abortion and its restrictions show how laws can be made in response to social ills such that they secure individual freedom even as they circumscribe it…
it’s kinda interesting
it is incorrect to state that there are no natural, or social, consequences for rape, murder, assault, theft, burglary, fraud (especailly in a society with a lack of laws for these, the social consequences — family and friends seeking retribution — could be quite severe).
RTO, I apologize for not being clearer … I meant no consequences as far as the state is concerned. Then indeed it would fall to the victim and/or victims family & friends to carry out whatever justice they deem correct to enforce consequences. I definitely don’t want to go there.
well ca and O! may think its ok to suck the brains out of a baby but not ok or pa
i agree killing babies is a social ill
You are fairly dense, aren’t youhttp://www.alaskajournal.com/stories/070807/hom_20070708005.shtml
Also examine these figures, you can check the hyperlinks;
http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/06/governor-palins-budgets-pointing-out.html
Ric – I respect the consistency of your position but I don’t think it is adequate. I consider myself a Constitutionalist and a social conservative; I believe that the United States Constitution – particularly through the Fifth Amendment’s police power – permits government to enact laws that regulate public health, safety, and morals. On the whole less government is better because it works.
You’re accepting the Marcotte frame regarding abortion, which is more or less confusing The Handmaid’s Tale for a work of historical Nonfiction. To the best of my knowledge, restrictions on abortion would exist in the form of regulation of the practice of medicine – and medicine is already fairly well regulated by both government and its own professional association. There wasn’t a panty sniffing partol before Roe in 1973, so I don’t think one would be required in the future. And, as it now stands, it doesn’t matter if the pregnant woman or girl is your (underage) “daughter, sister, wife, or any other relation” as the law stands now.
“it is incorrect to state that there are no natural, or social, consequences for rape, murder, assault, theft, burglary, fraud (especailly in a society with a lack of laws for these, the social consequences — family and friends seeking retribution — could be quite severe). ”
There are no universal natural laws. Some cultures *cough*Muslim*cough* see no ill in treating their wives as property. Rape, assault, false imprisonment…all cool if it’s your wife.
Sometimes, there has’ta be a law.
here are the spendings in Alaska which include the spendings during Sarah Palin’s brief stint as governor… at no point do they decrease… they just keep going up and up
The only police authority embodied in the 5th Amendment is that over Federal property and the efficiency of performing propre Federal functions (such as procurement fraud, tampering with mail…)
The proper repository of the police power to regulate public health, safety and, yes, morals is *only* at the state level and lower.
The proper repository of the police power to regulate public health, safety and, yes, morals is *only* at the state level and lower.
Which is why Roe is bad law.
There certainly is a universal Natural Law, if only by way of all of us sharing a common biology, ecology, and limitations in time and space. If cultural or social contexts make the natural consequences of any of those infractions too mild for your liking, that’s a completley different subject.
First among a few other reasons, yes.
Thank SBP for Trollhammer.
I was curious about the spending so I checked the footnotes. They’re based on this site. Now, if you notice, there are two related tabs “State” and “State and Local”. So, for instance, State ‘0 was $8.6 billion and State and Local ’08 was $12.9 billion.
Now, the Conservatives4Palin piece claims the budget was $11.7 billion in ’07 and $10.5 billion in ’10. Looking again at the reference site, we see that the $11.7 billion number is State and Local combined and the later $10.5 billion number is only State.
Mystery solved. It was apples to oranges.
thank you Mr. bh so there you go Daniels roolz Palin droolz
I’m just saying the Conservatives4Palin piece is based on misinterpreted data.
I’d actually have to study the budgets to compare the two of them. If we’re just going budget increases? Indiana spent more each year from 2005 onward.
Under that standard, they both drool.
I go away to the rural east end of Long Island, come back, and the arguing vis-a-vis Daniels and Palin is still raging?
On a thread that’s about the liberal lights of the faaaaarrrr left being unable to get the, er, nuanced historical message of Palin’s twitter communique?
Have the communists melted down over something Daniels said too, and I missed it? Is that how he got brought into the discussion?
Or has the arguing over Politico hijacking his quotes last week, with all the crying and gnashing of teeth by Norquist et al, continued all weekend?
Just curious.
And all the lefties who didn’t “get it” can tweet me…
Has any state or federal government ever had an actual spending decrease?
Bob – their attacks on Daniels have continued since their attacks after his call for a “truce”.
WP is eating my comments again. feets, your link to wikipedia concerning Palin’s record is bullshit and you know it. Suggest you paste the next half dozen paragraphs here.
My only interest in Palin outside the post was that there were competing budget claims so I was curious as to the correct answer, Bob. And, as the explanation was so simple, I thought I’d share it.
The Federal government decreased spending after WWI and WWII. Other than that? Probably at some point or another but it’s certainly rare as hell.
I wasn’t actually saying that either of them drool, JD. I was just kidding because, as you point out, budgets always go up.
Fair enough guys, I just walked into this all and wondered.
Have folks been going after Daniels steadily for the last few days? I haven’t bothered to go to HotAir or Ace today, and Dan Collins didn’t have anythig on it?
Or has it been members of the PW commentariat?
And thanks for the links bh, I’ll have to look into the spending information; because based on the evidence Daniels did a great job slashing the waste out of the Indiana budget and turning a defecit into a surplus. Could it be translated to the US government? Who knows, but it’s a pretty solid resume detail, for sure.
Mr. Daniels does not droolz bh in the contrary it is Sara Palin and Sarah Palin alone who droolz and I think we both know where she droolz don’t we yes we do
looking at the daters from here (Alaska) and here qwe can see the budgets each were responsible for… for Sarah Palin we will say she was responsible for 08 and 09 and Mr. Daniels for 07 – 09 which is more years cause he hasn’t bailed on his office yet…
as a % of gdp Sarah’s record was an increase of the state at the expense of the private sector of 26.1% the year before she got there to 27.2% -> 28.2%
Mr. Daniels? 18.4% the year before he got there to 18.7% -> 18.9% -> 19.2%
Mr. Daniels hasn’t even moved the dial a whole percentage point yet! And he been there longer! Therefore as you can see from the above it is indeed Sarah Palin who droolz whilst Mr. Daniels roolz.
oh. I could have proofed that better but my sister called on the phone she will be here soon
Judas priest! The grieferness is without end.
and I said that wrong to be clear when Sarah got there the budget was 26.1% of gdp and she left it at 28.2%, which is a shamefully large increase… Mr. Daniels inherited a budget of 18.4% of gdp and 3 years later it was at only 19.2%, which is not a particularly shameful increase though a little unfortunate
Mr. LaRoche I am busy being empirical I will have you know there is nothing griefy about it
The Government’s interest in laws regulating behavior is to maintain an orderly society in which commerce moves freely and therefore taxes can be collected.
If women are afraid of being raped, they won’t go out shopping and commerce suffers. Therefore a law against rape is justifiable.
If everybody’s afraid to go out shopping for fear of being killed, commerce suffers. Therefore a law against murder is justifiable.
There are others, but that’s the event horizon, beyond which “justifiable” does not go. Just this side of the barrier is the nuisance stuff: panhandlers making it unpleasant to go out and shop, for instance. That sort of thing can be argued about.
Private behavior? If J. Random Citizen has no reason to know about it, neither does the State.
Regards,
Ric
Beware using any numbers that contain a GDP component for comparison. That could simply mean that Alaska has been harder hit by the recession than Indiana.
that’s probably Sarah Palin’s fault though
Or, better yet, just make a pitch for Daniels that’s independent of Palin.
I think he’s worth a serious look. And that’s completely separate from how I feel about any other GOP hopeful.
Of course! Sarah Palin caused the recession!!!!
happyfeet,
In the interest of fairness here, it should be noted that as a developing state, Alaska might require more spending, for infrastructure and the like, than long established and developed Indiana.
Also, Indiana’s GDP was on the order of 10 times that of Alaska. So the increases are around the same, in terms of sheer dollars, with Alaska actually increasing less.
Everbody here likes Daniels a lot happyfeet, and are impressed by his ability to get Indiana’s budget process under control. Diminishing Palin doesn’t increase that estimable accomplisment in any way.
You are aware that Daniels endorsed McCain, aren’t you?
Actually since the Government owns 70% of the State, and doesn’t allow for reasonable resource development, in violation of the compact that Ted Stevens had negotiated at the time of it’s admission to the Union probably has a little to do with it. Indiana, has control of it’s resources
at last count. Overall, Alaska has fared fairly well through out the recession, in part because of
the reserves that were accumulated in the more prosperous times, much like Chile with it’s Copper
revenues,
Mr. Bob I am in denial about that particular endorsing and I would appreciate your cooperation in this matter
OK, I just wanted to make sure you were aware of that fact. I didn’t want it to suddenly rock your world later :)
I’m sure he has a very good excuse
Palin made him do it.
Would you prefer it as Paul put it in Galatians?
Far older than any hipster concept of karma.
Ric, the only “commerce” needed to punish murder is that each life is owned by the human living it.
…to maintain an orderly society…
An orderly society as ultimately determined by the consent of the governed. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness may include notions of privacy, but it would be best if those notions were made explicit, otherwise they are subject to broad interpretation.
‘feets, you’ve attacked Sarah Palin again?.
sigh.
OT here is some astounding bumblefucklery
while Obama fucks around our little country is paying the price in jobs and energy security
Mr. serr8d that’s wonderful I heart that a lot
Well that you can’r deny, even Fagan, the Cajun import up there, is figuring that out,
yes ideas are ideals and ideals create jobs
“Under that standard, they both drool.”
Never mess with a hall monitor! (under any standard bh rules;^)
geez, hf, guess you missed this.
“…to maintain an orderly society in which commerce moves freely and therefore taxes can be collected.”
Ric,
How much commerce induced tax revenue can be collected from an aborted baby?
How much can be collected from a child that grows up to adulthood?
Well, if you tax the abortionist high enough maybe that will make up for the lost revenue from all the foeti.
Red pill blue pill, apparently we’re all just fodder for the government energy farm.
Christ.
I admit my problems, but still responding to haps? Why bother. He is like the DeGaulle of anything – if it is not 100% his way it is the highway.
Fark him, and the mad cow he finds so enticing.
Last should have been Mikey NTH.
Darn sock puppets.
I went to have the tasty foozle of the thai people darleen now we’re gonna watch the Raising Hope
I hope you have had a nice evening it is cool and rainy here in the valley.
The nub. Who owns you? And when?
In order for the law, as it applies to humans, to function there must be a clear standard as to when a human comes into existence and when they cease to exist.
If there is anything that should be decided on by the people as a whole this is it. Having the standards imposed by an unelected few is where this rubs the wrong way.
Putting it back to the States allows for many differing “solutions” to be tried and examined and for those having the strongest feelings/thoughts on the matter to vote with their feet if that is best for them.
nobody should be put where they have to condone or support or subsidize abortings if they don’t believe in it … that’s very wrong and we should work for so that doesn’t happen
Precisely when does it stop being abortion and become murder? 1st trimester? 2nd? 3rd? Outside the womb? 1st birthday? 2nd?
But that is not the most important part. It is the how does this get decided in a society such as ours? It is the process of coming to the decision that matters more than the decision itself.
“Would you prefer it as Paul put it in Galatians?”
Paul was silent about the whole karma thing. Gods judgment, not so much.
Trust me, if 10th trimester abortions were legal, there’d be a hell of a lot of ’em.
LBascom, the point is that whether you call it karma or God’s judgement, the idea that doing evil will result in bad things for you wasn’t originated by the hipsters.
On a really really super positive note, Megan McCain is giving a speech in town tonight. I cannot wait to bask in her glory and absorb her super intelligent take on the tea party. Hell, I may go just to see what kind of person shows up for a Megan McCain speech – I cannot possibly imagine anyone takes her seriously.
Meggie Mac’s fifteen minutes are up. Go away already…
My guess is most of the people around you will be there for the same reason you are. ;-p
Meghan panders to the right of center yoot demo almost exactly to the letter the same way Palin panders to their right of center parental units – with superficial knowledge, limited experience and accomplishment, book tours, carefully selected media appearances, and tweeters – always mirroring their views on every key point – never ever ever challenging them; indeed, presenting themselves as embodiments of those views – the word made flesh
They will be there to see her boobs.
“…always mirroring their views on every key point – never ever ever challenging them…”
Isn’t that how people get elected? By representing the views of those who vote for them? The whole “challenging them” propsition sounds dangerously like Michelle “Barack’s never gonna let you go back to the way you were before” Obama’s pronouncement.
By and large I find your parallel between Palin and Meggie Mac a bit shaky.
Fuck off, happy. You’ve gone right through annoying, past tiresome, and out the other side of insufferable. Just give it a rest already.
When Palin announces she’s running for office, then have at it. ‘Til then, do us all a favor and stick to talking about your fucking turtle-flavored cupcakes.
I denounce myself.
JD,
She’s losing the whole cutsie-pie appeal rapidly anyway. People won’t even be coming on account of her, er, assets soon.
And, can you effectively self denounce? Should you enlist another honorary denouncee to do the job, lest your denunciation become an ersatz endorsement?
Wow. That last sentance sounds like the ol’, “I know, that you know, that I know, that you know…” doublespeak!
It can be done, but palm-shaving may get a bit ticklish.
I think “challenging them” kinda describes Mr. Daniels retrospectively courageous broaching of the subject of alternative forms of taxation. This is not the sort of courageous broaching we’ve come to expect from a Palin or a Meghan with respect to their respective constituencies.
Comment by JD on 10/20 @ 10:32 am #
“They will be there to see her boobs.”
Comment by JD on 10/20 @ 10:43 am #
“I denounce myself.”
11 minutes JD? (you’re losing your touch;)
Back to the firing range mister!
“And, can you effectively self denounce?”
If anyone can it’s JD; but, I think response times should be in the single digits at the maximum;)
I was laughing too hard to type. It took me 10 minutes to regain my composure. I crack myself up sometimes.
When self-denunciation isn’t sufficient:
Out, damn’d spot! out, I say!—One; two: why, then ’tis time to do’t.—Hell is murky.—Fie, my lord, fie, a soldier, and afeard? What need we fear who knows it, when none can call our pow’r to accompt?
Cut and paste as necessary.
Regards,
Ric
Crazy Joe: “The French ran Hezbollah out of Lebanon.”
Stay in California, HF, don’t come back to Texas, ever. You and that fucked up state deserve each other…
“I was laughing too hard to type. It took me 10 minutes to regain my composure. I crack myself up sometimes.”
Were fighting a WAR here man where’s your composure? There will be plenty of time to smoke and joke on Nov 3rd!
FOCUS PEOPLE!!!