Laura Ingraham interviews Doubting John — and it’s evident (at least to me) that he’s not quite sold on the value of these Tea Party types who are suddenly infesting his Beltway bailiwick. Regardless of what he says he’s saying.
Decide for yourselves:
As I’ve noted in the comments several times over the last few days, it’s not really Christine O’Donnell that I’m supporting (though I see no reason why I wouldn’t, were I in Delaware: on many issues, she’s seems pretty libertarian, and she’s certainly a fiscal conservative); instead, it’s the idea of O’Donnell that I support — and that anyone who professes to hold conservative/classical liberal principles should likewise support, regardless of all their talk about electability, etc.
The party primary voters in Delaware selected the candidate they thought best represent their interests. And to put O’Donnell’s candidacy in perspective, she — unlike, say, Miller or Angle, would be able to vote right away, and may be a crucial vote for the GOP during what could very well be a lame duck session of Congress for the Dems.
The GOP establishment should be throwing all its weight behind this woman, if it is “pragmatism” they’re truly after. But it’s not. It’s power — and a certain kind of power, at that. And it’s disgusting to watch.
Coons is a tax-hiking, surplus-depleting, cap-and-trade worshipping Marxist. And yet the GOP establishment is spending its time going after the GOP candidate — with their preferred candidate refusing to throw his support behind her now that she’s won the party nomination.
But it’s only fiscal conservatives who are all about “purity” at the expense of a big tent, right?
Food for thought.
he’s such a liar his fag-ass NRSC’s terse perfunctory congratulations of Christy O on election night puts the lie to Cornhole’s assertion that Fox got the story wrong about how loathe they were to support Christy I think…
“I’m for Republicans getting back in control,” he says and that’s pretty much all you need to know about this Cornhole faggot.
If I can stand shoulder-to-shoulder with an insane, foul-mouthed cupcake molester like happyfeet, surely the GOP can stand with O’Donnell. It’s the cause that’s important; not the personalities.
damn skippy
I’m thinking that we’re not going to support John Cornyn come his next election.
Would somebody do a kindness to a poor schlub w/ dial-up internet and summarize what Cornyn had to say for himself?
hmmm….. That was rather equivocal, wasn’t it sdferr?
Sorry for the truncation Ernst (simultaneous ear to Limbaugh makes it tough) but that’s just a lead in to Cornyn’s saying for all practical purposes there’s no way she can win the office.
So I think it was wrong for the GOP to be pursuing a majority in the Senate? No…
Backing Mike Castle to the hilt, especially when the Democrats have as much said one of theor lame duck session goals is to ram through some form of cap-n-trade? Clearly wrong-headed.
Do I believe there was an inherently evil design or motivation to their action? Nope, it was only a classic case of not seeing the forest for the trees. Simple stupidity.
Should the national GOP be, in essence, forcing Castle to congratulate O’Donnell on her victory, pledge his support for her throughout the campaign, and immediatly issue a seies of throaty endorsements of her candidacy? Unquestionably yes.
And should effin’ Cornyn, like so many others who have disappointed me over the weekend, still be turning questions about O’Donnell into opportunities to publicly bash her and point out that in their opinion she is un-electable? Unquestionably NO!
The national level GOP needs to be backing all candidates, and leave the decisions about who might win to the oddsmakers and pollsters.
Cornyn has been one of the worst Senatorial committee leaders in my lifetime. But do I think it’s calculated? Naaaah, just feloniously stupid.
Money quote: Cornyn is for “repealing Obamacare and replacing it with a sensible alternative.”
Umm, no, Senator Cornyn, we don’t want an alternative Obamacare, we want government to get out of the healthcare business entirely.
Cornyn wants to “open his arms and work together with the TEA party.”
Again, no, Senator Cornyn, I don’t want the GOP old guard anywhere near the TEA party. I tend to think the GOP would like to co-opt the TEA party.
Keep it up, fucking GOP and red-on-red fighters.
Paul Krugman is on message while the right becomes distracted on a stupid issue.
Shit – who is that does those funny cartoons of Krugman’s mansion?
Here’s a line for one of those balloon thingies she does:
You see, the rich are different from you and me: they have more influence. It’s partly a matter of campaign contributions, but it’s also a matter of social pressure, since politicians spend a lot of time hanging out with the wealthy. So when the rich face the prospect of paying an extra 3 or 4 percent of their income in taxes, politicians feel their pain — feel it much more acutely, it’s clear, than they feel the pain of families who are losing their jobs, their houses, and their hopes.
I particularly agree with the part about the ‘idea’ of O’Donnell. I’m not ready to stake my life on either her character or her competencies.
But even beyond the fact of being able to vote immediately, she’s an affirmation that candidates ought to represent the party voters and not be poll-tested strategic selections made by a few party officials in a bubble who seem to increasingly sprint in whatever direction the wind was blowing 5 minutes ago and stand for nothing other than putting themselves in a position of privledge and power.
And beyond that, the idea that she hung out with people who were into Wicca in high school is utterly irrelevant to anything. Real people with realistic personal histories are qualified for representative office. We’ve got some of the most horrid monstrous characters as well as some of the most retardedly stupid in office now, and have had them for decades. It does not take an ivy league degree to be some jackass senator. If anything the key requirement ought to be some intellectual humility before they get it in their head they can micromanage every aspect of everything better than anyone else can take care of their own shit.
I’m listening to Rush as well. He’s making a lot of the same points that’ve been made here over the weekend.
I think his team analogy is incomplete. It’s not that the Republican Ruling Class doesn’t want us in the game. They want us out in front. To change metaphors, the Ruling Class is happy to let the O’Donnells jump on the grenades. They get to point and say that’s the problem with doctrinaire conservatives, they keep blowing themselves up. But when the O’Donnell’s make it through and actually have a chance to seize an objective, they’ll shoot ’em in the back rather than share the credit for the victory.
“Washington [D.C.] versus the rest” indeed.
The party primary voters in Delaware selected the candidate they thought best represent their interests. And to put O’Donnell’s ca
Exactly. Right. EOL. Get over it and move on.
One great thing about this thread?
Cornyn is definitely one that happyfeet loves to hate, so I’m sure there’ll be some interesting commentary :)
I tend to think the GOP would like to co-opt the TEA party.
Without any doubt. The trick is, the Tea Party needs to coopt the GOP.
It’s the cause that’s important; not the personalities.
To follow up on my earlier comment — the fact that the establishment GOP cannot seem to cope with the Tea Party and their preferred candidates tells me that the two groups don’t share a common cause. I think those who call the Tea Party an insurgency are more correct than anyone realizes.
Much like the “progressives” / New Left co-opted the Democrat party.
Only in the case of the Tea Party movement, the idea is bringing back the kinds of principles this country was founded upon.
When all you want from your government is to be mostly left alone, you’re asking for the right things.
I tend to think the GOP would like to co-opt the TEA party.
And you’re right to think so Blake, because if the GOP doesn’t coopt the tea-party, the tea-party is going to co-opt the GOP, and then where the business as usual D.C. insiders be?
This is precisely what is happening.
It’s OUTLAW! And who have we seen who likes so much to ironize and dismiss as silly the idea of OUTLAW…?
Yeah. That’s what I thought.
note that Cornhole’s misgivings about the Murkowski slut are but an afterthought to his doubts about Christy O…
Crist Murkowski Castle – these all demonstrate how out of step this Cornhole cocksucker is with the party he purports to be leading – am I missing anybody?
note that Cornhole’s misgivings about the Murkowski slut are but an afterthought to his doubts about Christy O…
Which goes the same to some degree for most of her detractors.
Carin, I guess I’m missing your point, but isn’t that just more of the class warfare variety of progressive populism?
am I missing anybody?
Specter.
Ernst,
I think someone from Freedom Works came right out and said the TEA party wasn’t planning to join the GOP, the TEA party is going for a hostile takeover.
As long as the TEA party remains cynical and suspicious of the powers that be, they should do just fine.
good catch
He’s actually more irrelevant than Steele, just not as loquacious. Some one pointed out that the GOP registration in Delaware went up by about 1,000 since 2004, whereas total new registrations
went up 71,000. So Marmalard (Ross) and Niedermeyer (Castle) have really been going, great guns
jim demints’ del. tv ad
Senate Conservatives Fund (SCF), chaired by U.S. Senator Jim DeMint (R-South Carolina)
My point is that the conservative media has spend a week talking about last week’s primaries. The left is gearing up while we navel gaze.
The goal, right now, of the left is to present the right as in the middle of a huge … battle, and we’re willingly giving it to them. So, instead of staying on message, on taxes, we argue about the Tea Party and party purity and whatever.
And Krugman informs his readers that we only care about tax cuts for the richest. There are several articles out, today, about that very topic.
I’m cranky.
Has the NRSC got out front in Wash. State and the Rossi race against Patty? Has it emphasized the importance of taking down Feingold in Wisc? Is it focused like a laser beam on annihilating Harry Reid? What is it doing in West Virginia? NY (two races!!)? What of Colorado?
Murkowski was an incumbent running for re-election in a challenged primary. I don’t have a problem with the SRNC supporting a member of the club, as it were, so long as the level of the support doesn’t rise to what happened with Specter and Toomey in 2004 and we’re pissing money away trying to save an politician who’s lost his base of support.
Specter-Toomey ’04 was real fratricide, because it cost us Santorum in ’06.
No, I’m cranky, dammit.
Ernst,
The Spectre Toomey thing really PO’d a lot of people.
It’s not that people don’t understand loyalty, that can be forgiven to a certain point.
In the case of Spectre, people tried to warn the GOP it was being loyal to someone who had no loyalty. And the GOP refused to learn that lesson, even after Spectre left the GOP.
The warning shot for the GOP should have been “Jumpin” Jim Jeffords. The old guard GOP is more stubborn than a 2×4 mule.
I don’t see why people should give Cornhole’s incumbent protection club any monies really especially when so many of the incumbents are McCain Graham Murkowski type sluts.
I didn’t realize that was a Krugman quote Carin, thank you for the clarification.
[I]nstead of staying on message, on taxes, we argue about the Tea Party and party purity and whatever.
I share your irritation. The sad fact, however, is we’re going to have to pull double duty, defend O’Donnell and other non-desireables from attacks from the Left Left and the Right Left and counterattack the Left Left.
Embrace your inner Patton, Carin! When you find yourself between two hostile forces, attack in both directions!
It’s OUTLAW!
Well, more like UNLAW!, as in “Repeal, Revoke, Restore.”
It’s power — and a certain kind of power, at that. And it’s disgusting to watch.
This happened several years ago in Utah when the Lieutenant Governor became governor when the gub was appointed to a federal position by Dubya.
The woman was awesome. She held no truck with the shenanigans that went on in the Utah GOP, which has deteriorated for the same reasons the Dems have in MA: too much uncontested power for too long. Having raised seven kids, she was your basic no-nonsense grandma whom you could never lie to because she always knew exactly what you were up to, and she wasn’t having any of it.
So of course the GOP refused to nominate her for governor next time ’round, opting instead for Huntsman Jr. (now ambassador to China), who is Not His Father’s Son.
Politicians are the worst kind of person, after certain kinds of lawyers, and the two categories overlap horrifically.
Embrace your inner Patton, Carin! When you find yourself between two hostile forces, attack in both directions!
I’ll try, but I’ve got five kids in sports right now- and I barely know where I’m going and if I’m on time. People aren’t making this easy for me.
Blake, I know what you mean and said so at the time. Santorum destroyed his credibility defending Spectre to the Republican wing of the Republican Party and that rat bastard sonofabitch didn’t lift a finger to help Santorum in ’06. It really does seem as though loyalty flows in one direction in the Republican party.
#25 – I think the rich, delicious irony comes from the fact that the cartoon thought bubble would be over a picture of Krugman’s enormous mansion…
“Cornyn is definitely one that happyfeet loves to hate, so I’m sure there’ll be some interesting commentary :)”
If by “intersting” you mean faggity, cocksucker, hoochie, slut, argh! ARGH! YEARGH!!!! TEAM R IS THE SUXXOR11!1!, I guess you might be right. I’m more wanting to see what Jeff says. When he breaks out an insult or profanity, he does it with style…
dicentra, she sounds perfect, or at least as close to perfection as we can get.
I read the wikipedia entry about her, and the weasely excuses the GOP gave about not putting her on the ballot. What a bunch of maroons.
Yea, LTC- do you know who it is that does that bit
I don’t see why people should give Cornhole’s incumbent protection club any monies really especially when so many of the incumbents are McCain Graham Murkowski type sluts.
Well, feets, hypothetically, if you gave money to the SNRC, you would want them to support a De Mint if he were to be primaried by a moderate to liberal Republican running against him because the Republican Party was too conservative, wouldn’t you? Necessary trade-offs, I’m afraid.
I vote we send mule trainers with 2×4’s to Senate.
The job of the mule trainers would be to club any and every Senator that votes for an un-constitutional bill. Or votes for a bill that hasn’t been read.
I denounce myself as a violent rightwinger with punctuation issues.
DeMint is a perverted Jesus pansy I think
The goal, right now, of the left is to present the right as in the middle of a huge … battle, and we’re willingly giving it to them. So, instead of staying on message, on taxes, we argue about the Tea Party and party purity and whatever.
Well, we are in a huge battle.
This is what happens when you let the enemy in your camp. You’re trying to lead a sally out the main gate, they’re opening the rear, throwing ropes down the walls, confiscating the supplies and ranting to your troops about how hopeless your strategy is and how stupid your leadership is.
This is fuckin terrible, what’s going on here – I agree. But I don’t see what we can damn well do about it now apart from fight the thing and win, and focus on rooting them out from our rear before we try to take on the main force of the enemy directly.
1 enemy in your gates is worse then 5 outside.
“DeMint is a perverted Jesus pansy I think”
1st mistake – bigotry.
Second mistake – claiming you thought.
BIG TENT!
It’s not that people don’t understand loyalty, that can be forgiven to a certain point.
I’m loyal to the principles, not the people.
Where people are concerned, I’m loyal to the ones I know personally and like. Bunch of rich strangers can F off.
Necessary trade-offs, I’m afraid.
Like hell, Ernst. You can give money to the candidate facing such a challenge directly, you don’t have to give it to the umbrella group and hope it gets distributed in a way you please.
Which, by the way – it won’t. Your hypothetical never happens in practice.
Sadly Colonel John, you’re correct. I guess I was trying to hard at some pre-emptive fence mending.
Hmmm… Obama Underwater in Delaware
I think DeMint is a lot the ringleader of those who want to make Team R the party of fag-hate and fetus idolatry. He doesn’t work very hard to prove me wrong I don’t think.
demint/palin 2012
Dude.
“Health Care will be his Waterloo” I would say Borodino, but that doesn’t sound terribly squishy
Happy, your favorite Christer endorsed Miller over Murkowski before Cornyn showed up late to the game.
Food for thought.
Where people are concerned, I’m loyal to the ones I know personally and like. Bunch of … strangers can F off.
And so are they Entropy. Which is why I hope our people can co-opt their institutions and put them to the service of our ends. My goal here is to make it safe for us to donate to the SNRC again.
Self-appointed celebrity spokesmodel Sarah Palin isn’t so much a christer I don’t think Mr. Blake as much as she’s someone who’s a lot inclusive of christers among those to whom she’ll whorishly pander.
But it’s not. It’s power — and a certain kind of power, at that. And it’s disgusting to watch.
No establishment wishes to be displaced, and their fight is expected. Perhaps disgusting, but utterly expected. why do you think that yahoo started up with his ‘I had sex with Nikki Haley’ stories when he did? The establishment was being threatened, go destroy her.
Didn’t work, and disgusting, but expected.
Laura, was been very nice, to not just slap Cornyn upside the head, and say ‘snap out of it’
I was quite unaware you felt that way, feets. Fascinating.
yes Mr. Howard I have resolved to drop my cloak of reticence on these matters and share my thoughts freely
It is a moot point whether you think Castle is better, Castle is no longer running. Christine O’Donnell is. So the issue is whether she is better than Coons.
This whole mess has been disturbing, depressing and revealing, but nevertheless there is a race going on in Delaware that is winable. Without forgetting or ignoring those on our own side with questionable ideas, we should be directing our fire downrange.
Then you do a most valuable service to all of mankind, feets. Carry on.
And so are they Entropy.
Which is another reason I like the idea of O’Donnell (and Paladino… and Tancredo and Coburn and DeMint, and even Ron and Rand Paul).
This ‘comity’ BS is BS. It’s not a fraternity. When the stakes rise to the level of nationalizing healthcare they ought be beating each other on the floor of the senate with whoopin’ canes.
No more make nice nice. Especially not on the liberal cocktail circuit. There should be a business mentality. We sent you there to fight for us.
Anyone who will stick to conservative principles should loathe his neighbors when he’s living in DC. That one would even want an invite to the cocktail party speaks poorly of how long they’ll stick to their tune.
Ingraham does call Cornyn on those “Republicans” who tend to get a little pissy when they lose primaries (i.e., Crist, Castle, Murkowski, etc.).
So, question: It’s 2012. In a decidedly two-candidate race, a contest between R and D naturally ensues, pitting one Barack Hussein Obama, older but perhaps not wiser, against the vivacious and popular Sarah Palin, a Republican, for the office of the President of the United States.
The public’s imagination is again captured: Will it be real hope for change that finally empowers all perceived minorities and special interests to the above-average stations more than implied by their well above average entitlements, or will it be a groundswell of conservative populism animating vast swaths of the heartland to vacate their carts in equally vast discount shopping centers and trek spiritedly to the polls, in so doing, installing the last great gasp for popular conservatism.
How shall Team Staunch cast it’s vote in this glittering, amplified, reality show-like scenario? In fact, shall Team Staunch vote?
Who survives, television viewers and ‘feets? Who cooks the winning dish? Who goes home in this episode?
and in so doing, etc…
Mr. Howard I’m giving Team Staunch my 110% to make sure we never come to where we stand at the precipice overlooking the abyss of permanent celebrity whore presidential colonization. But should this come to pass, verily, it matters not what Team Staunch does I do not think because Team Staunch will have been de facto marginalized and it will be up to individual members of Team Staunch I think to decide whether or not they want to spent the next four years defending Palin’s shallow grating divisive celebrity whore presidency.
and remember if Palin wins in 2012 the Congress is bright bright blue come 2014
Better defending Palin than despairing over Obama.
If Obama wins, the whole country will be in deep shit, kinda greenish brown rather than bright blue.
I just think, Happy, that you can be against Team Palin 2012 w/o calling her names.
With my scenario I’d hoped to bypass your rote reply, feets. In my failing this, I find that you have added yet one more faggot to your heap of staunchly smoldering embers.
That being, were I to accept your premise, that a Palin vote in 2012 — one presumed to join with those of a purality of American poll-goers — shall virtually guarantee the most dire of outcomes, namely that a Democrat congress is certain to be the hapless outcome of a Palin presidency a scant two years after its inauguration.
It seems we are doomed, no? That is, unless a sufficient number of our host’s readers can be convinced to sway the country. A noble undertaking, to be sure.
I ask again, once confronted with the presumed unpopularity of a successful populist candidate, shall Team Staunch prefer to not exercise it’s vote at the next available opportunity?
And ever thereafter?
Or plurality…
Lee I think it’s rather unlikely Obama wouldn’t beat Palin. Just, it’s worth noting that if Palin won she’d be beleaguered from day one and the U.S. presidency will pass into a spectacularly low repute at home and abroad, should another celebrity spokeswhore follow so closely on the heels of the present one.
In other words, kinda like Bush, feets?
I mean, popularity is the shiznit until it’s not. Ask the 4th Estate.
The Republican that wins in 2012 and isn’t beleaguered from day one doesn’t exist.
Are you new to this game?
Carin Palin is quite willfully sucking oxygen away from the very serious conversations our little country needs to be having… she deserves a name or two I think. It was Palin more than anyone else what wrought the distracting fiasco in Delaware – a fiasco what has been wholly unedifying but for what it has revealed of establishment Team R’s character. An establishment Palin is more than happy to pander to when it suits her purposes… Michael Steele, Carly Fiorina, John McCain and et cetera.
I can’t understand why Sarah Palin is so widely held to be deserving of special treatment. I think she cultivates a certain victimyness.
I disagree. I think Palin – like her or not – is playing a part in whipping up the Tea Party folks. They love her. She’s like an engergizer bunny cheerleader.
The sucking was (my beloved) Krauthhammer the other day. And McCain a few years ago. And the sucky conservatives who ran in 2006.
Mr. Howard at this point I think Team R needs to look to the House for leadership… if Team R can rid itself of the stifling Boehnerfag establishment in the House mayhap the insurgency can proceed outward from there. But 2012 and 2016 are minefields cause of the wildcard of who the Tam R nominee will be, and there’s every reason to be pessimistic about the prospective Team R nominee I think, given the field we’ve been presented with.
And I think it’s different from Bush. Bush wasn’t chosen and supported and celebrated as someone understood to be fantastically offensive that we can smear all over the dirty socialists’ faces and make them lick it. Certainly not in his first campaign anyway. With Sarah Palin, so much of the giddy enthusiasm for her derives from the fact that they understand how hated she is.
It’s not at all America. And it’s something very new for Team R I think.
I can’t understand why Sarah Palin is so widely held to be deserving of special treatment. I think she cultivates a certain victimyness.
bwaa hahaha hahaha hahaha hahahaha heehee heehee hee heeheehee heehee ho hohoho hohoho hohoho
I can’t catch my breath
Balance, my good man. If, as you insist, one accepts that a vote for an R is truly a vote for D, then it seems that the problem of the Imperfect Candidate — in the face of none other imminently eminent for immanent staunchinesslihood, which recent history tells us is the afflicting affliction that afflicts us ever — is by contrast, the lesser worry.
It must be that said Candidate is in fact, Imperfect, feets. Conversely, the left ye have with ye always. Would it be advisable to allow their contingent to vet and approve your Candidate, sir?
“someone understood to be fantastically offensive ”
I’m no Dr Sanity, but that sounds like projection to me.
Carin that’s just it. If Team needs whipping up in the face of the raping of our little country then what does that say?
I don’t think Team R needs “whipping up.” I think the Tea Party’s spontaneous formation a lot speaks to the superfluousness of cheerleaders like Palin, really.
I think Team R needs to look to the House for leadership
That’s great. Name for a me President who’s ever been elected directly from the House of Representatives.
Wait…I’m confused…
Is it the burbling Boehnerfags, or the stifling Boehnerfags? Or should the burbling Boehnerfags just…stifle themselves?
Mr. Howard if given the challenges before her America finds herself reduced to scraping the bottom of the leadership barrel in the persons of Obama and Palin then … dude. Buy canned goods. It’s over.
I meant ideological leadership Mr. Schreiber … not for a presidential candidate.
oh. ok now I’m confused too Mr. Reed
Well, three comments gone, so screw it. Bob, if this makes it thorough, I’m confused too. feets says the left should choose the right’s people. Or…the right should choose its people in the left’s lights.
I think you may be mistaken about the “in your face” nature of the Bush/Gore contest of 2000 happyfeet. It was only masked better by the narrative that Bush had demonstrated his bi-partisan-ness as Governor of Texas.
Remember the conventional wisdom at the time, was, that Al Gore was indeed the heir-apparent to the glory, economically, domestically, and foreign-policy wise that was the Clinton presidency.
And that righteous succession was only stymied by the vast right wing conspiracy.
no Mr. Howard I am not saying the left should choose the right’s people, but there is yet a noble if fading idea in our little country that the president is to be the president of all Americans.
We know Sarah Palin can’t ever be that.
I understand your frustration with Palin and your desire to speak your mind on the matter. But hammering on it in so many threads is just overkill. It really is, ‘feets.
If we were currently being wiped out by space aliens and they were called The Palin, I’d probably still think it was overkill.
you are right Mr. bh it is overkill
Yey you just did.
But Obarky, no sweat.
What bh said.
Yet.
Carin Palin is quite willfully sucking oxygen away from the very serious conversations our little country needs to be having
It is impossible for the country to have a coherant conversation.
How does a country converse with itself? We’ve no institutions left for that. The national media will not host such a conversation. Nor will our universities. Our politicians are not listening and will not relay it. We cannot assemble the country on one blog or a dozen.
This IS our conversation. Being written in the results of these primaries and in the support of figures like Palin. That’s all we’ve got.
Some might say annoying overkill from their perspective but isn’t it maybe ineffective overkill from yours?
I’m going to my quiet place aka lunch and I’m taking my insightful commentary with me
But good is the enemy of perfect, Entropy.
the president is to be the president of all Americans.
He/She is.
Whether you like it or not. The Civil War settled that.
Enjoy, feets. And midway through the pita pocket, kindly consider the nature of balance and perspective. One would do although two would be a neat thing.
Underkill
It’s not “team R”, per se, that needs whipping up happyfeet, but the great mass of otherwise uninvolved low information voters that do; especially in the face of the overwhelming MFM, societal, and pop-culture inertia of the narrative against conservatives and their principles.
I know that we all often wonder why more people don’t get it, and by “it” I mean the inherent eeevvvolll of the Obami’s socialist/statist agenda. But these folks face an onslaught of forces in their daily life that tell them how magnificent and righteous it is; all without the benefit of the knowledge and refuge of a forum like we have here at PW to freely discuss such things.
So, is it so terrible if they can point to someone like Palin, and say, “but Sarah Palin says [X] about this issue, what’s wrong with that?” And realize, when they vilify her instead of address the issue, that they aren’t really thinking about issues as much as hating as they’ve been told.
Like her or not, she says a lot of things out loud that regulare folks wonder in private to themselves. And when her opponents can’t answer her questions, then the folk’s, too, have gone unanswered.
If nothing else, it’s all pretty illuminating, no?
Also, George Bush suscribed to that idea and it in large part gave us Barack Obama.
Also, it just plained sucked on the merits.
They get it in their head that they represent ‘all the people, not just the ones that voted for me’ and all you have democrats. Democrats and Democrats Lite (with 50% less minority content per serving).
That is what Lisa Merkowski is pulling when she says she just can’t quit Alaska.
She’s to be senator for ‘all the people of Alaska’.
You represent the people that voted for you. That’s why they voted for you.
sdferr,
I still hold out hope that Daniels will throw his hat in the ring; at least give it a whirl.
Last word on Palin. To use Noonan’s (!) yardstick analogy, at least she drives the baseline of the debate in the proper (right) direction.
“Last word on Palin.”
As long as happyfeet is breathing, the concept of a last word about Palin is impossible.
OMG ARE YOU THREATENING ME?
You know, there is one thing that always annoys me about the old saw, “They are the President of all! Americans.
It is, prima facia, true. Once the election is over, the President presides over all America, not just the part that elected them. But what is left out is the concomitant duty of Americans to consider the winner their President, regardless of whether they voted for the person or not.
An idea that transformed during the G.W. Bush tenure with the rise of, “he’s not my President”; as much a slap at his legitimacy as, “Dissent! is the highest form of patriotism” was an excuse for their seditious activity of politicizing the war.
Both lies contain, as Ric Locke astutely notes, a kernal of truth within; and rely on the false logic that since the kernal of truth is unassailable, the fallacious extension is as well.
Or, simply put, false but accurate.
Pattericofeet?
Either that isn’t happyfeet, he’s on a cupcake high, or he’s a raging paranoid. All I’m saying is that happyfeet has a Palin obsession that will not quit. I hope he lives until he’s 100, and I won’t be trying to stop that.
‘feets loves him some Sarah Palin. He just can’t quit her.
(I’m going to post that in every effing thread that I read where ‘feets goes off on his potty-mouth tangents. He’s a foul-mouthed version of Cato the Elder.)
I was just playing Mr. cranky I knew what you meant
There’s a distinct possibility of Palin ennui to hand to counter it, praise Jesus.
Doug Schoen, democrat pollster, on the Tea Parties.
OT
sdferr,
Barring any further government interference in the housing market, (a prayer, I know) I would look for proces to decline in the range of 15 to 25 percent further, as an average nationwide. I’ll have to search for the link, but, I base that on the fact that the average price is still around 4.5 times yearly income.
So, considering the traditional multiple, before the real estate bubble inflation, had been in the 3 to 3.5 range they are still comparatively over-priced.
Which is why many still criticize the government for trying to prop up values by incentivizing and underwriting purchases. Some economists are convinced that the housing market will stay depressed until pricing gets back in line with respect to historiacal trends.
The availability of cheap money skewed the valuations. The price/income ratio is one I’ve heard folks cite for a while during the bubble inflation, and is the reason I wonder why none of the wizards of smart comprehended it’s inflation.
After all, greater availablilty/access should have decreased that multiple, not increased it.
Just an aside pertaining to a question you posed before.
Why are you all wasting your time on the malignant little retard that goes by the name “happyfeet”? Send him back to fellate Patterico and let his boy-crush on the fascist bitch nishi be carried on elsewhere.
sdferr,
There’s a delicious literary irony to the juxtaposition of the affirmation, “praise Jesus”, to the notion of the declining popularity, and by inference the political fortunes, of a supposed, “lifeydoodle xtianist” like Palin…
Good one bro, intended or otherwise!
Thanks Bob.
121 was aimed at 118, so thanks too for taking a laugh where you can get it with 120
Rob, we’re practicing defending Palin for after she wins the election in 2012. :->
Conservatives are in ascendancy, best get ready for the ankle biters.
I’m going to post that in every effing thread that I read where ‘feets goes off on his potty-mouth tangents. He’s a foul-mouthed version of Cato the Elder
Ursa cana mater Palin delenda est!
Conservatives are in ascendancy, best get ready for the ankle biters.
Fuck that. Stomp on them, scrape the crap off your boot, and get on with life.
Heard on the radio while waiting to fetch number one daughter from school that some poll (Gallup?) has a majority of respondents (52%) saying that Sarah Palin’s views are closer to their own than are Barak Obamas.
Don’t anybody hold me to subject/adjective agreement I haven’t attempted latin in six or seven years.
Don’t hold me to grammar period, since I meant noun/adjective gender agreement. Subject/verb agreement doesn’t enter into it.
happyfeet, I’m sorry. I love you like a brother, but you are not contributing to the discussion. I would not for the world compel you to depart, even had I the means, but in the interest of comity and getting somewhere among the other debaters I beg it of you. It’s for your own health as well, since the very mention of the name S– P– sends you off into paroxysms that cannot help but endanger your heart, your circulatory system, and the capillaries entwined in your gray matter that cause such problems when damaged.
What you should do is seek out Andrew Sullivan. The two of you could have a wide-ranging, sincere, and above all staunch discussion of whether Ms. Palin’s pussy or her political ambition is the greatest threat to our little country. The chat could take a long time, and meanwhile it would put you out of our misery.
Regards,
Ric
Sadly brother John is not up for re-election until 2014. By which time he better be changing his tune. That might be a bit late though…
you wait and see Mr. Locke the reality tv schlockyness of Sarah Palin is not a good thing for our little country’s politics … it’s actually a bad thing and plus also she’s very hurtful to a Team R brand what has already been overly steeped in her … qualities such as they are.
But it’s no accident that following straight after Obama we have another no-account whore of no particular accomplishment building a personality cult aimed at a presidential bid and it’s … it’s a bad thing for America I think.
*shlockyness*
the very mention of the name S– P– sends you off into paroxysms
Ego ursae canae matris vaginam dentatam timeo
It’s not “team R”, per se, that needs whipping up happyfeet, but the great mass of otherwise uninvolved low information voters that do…
I think you make a very good point but would Palin’s cheerleadings be any less rah rah good if she were to renounce any designs on our little White House? I think they would be just as rah rah wonderful plus me personally I would feel better.
The “Ego” is superfluous
come on the oval office with a bear rug would be kinda cool
a) You can’t make people have conversations if they don’t want to have them
b) You can’t force people to ignore other people, solely through vituperation
c) I’m pretty sure that no one here gives a rat’s ass about Sarah Palin, so I’m not sure who you’re trying to convince
d) All of that aside, Sarah Palin has every bit as much right to speak as you do.
So, give it a fucking rest, is my vote. WHO’S WITH ME?
Personality cult?
For crying out loud, how does a candidate get votes without a following? You are free to characterize me as a shallow celebrity hound, but the insult has no sting because it’s not true. Palin is an advocate for my views on issues, and I don’t care if you don’t like her accent.
Are there people out there I would rather have as president? Absolutely. But if she is the candidate in 2012, her or Obama, Palin gets my vote. In the mean time, I’m not going to lie about who she is in some twisted Alinsky game to dissuade possible future voters from voting for whom they think best represents them.
Sometimes I think happyfeet is an elaborate moby.
I think you make a very good point but would Palin’s cheerleadings be any less rah rah good if she were to renounce any designs on our little White House? I think they would be just as rah rah wonderful plus me personally I would feel better.
Who are you kidding? Even if Palin did “renounce any designs” on the White House you would just move on to reason # 2,174 to bitch and moan about her.
Your hatred of Sarah Palin will neither be quenched nor denied…
#136 Aye!
how did we get off on this Sarah Palin tangent anyway
Oh no you di’int…
Just burn the RINOs. And send the Dhimmies to Canada.
Umm, it was either myself or newrouter who started things, I think.
Someone intentionally needled happyfeet and things sort of took off from there.
Of course, I can’t speak for newrouter.
No they do exist, this Fagan from New Orleans, who is like feets but with a radio show. but he’s for Miller, A(rther) Chance, a transplanted Georgian union Representative, who is of Murkowski’s
Old Guard
i’ll take the blame. here’s some m. steyn as an act of repentance:
“She should use the theme from “Bewitched”: All she had to do was twitch her nose, and Mike Castle vanished. If it’s a choice between Elizabeth Montgomery and Democrats cackling as they toss another trillion dollars into their bubbling cauldron, it’s no contest.”
newrouter, that Steyn clip is priceless. For that, I’ll even forgive your one-time assertion that I was an effin’ progg.
i meant that in a nice way
Sometimes, I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion!
While talking her up would be nice, what that really boils down to is money, and as luck would have it, she doesn’t need the GOP for that. That sort of thing opens people’s eyes. And that said, all the party apparatus is making the right noises and cutting the appropriate checks. This is one of those teachable moments. Let’s see if they’re really learning.
Classic, just classic.
The shtickl get a rise out of spacecowboy cons as well, Jack.
Still thoroughing.
Easily distracted by sparkle motion.
Palin is sucking the CO-2 from the party, and hopefully, some oxygen will get in to ignite some new and old fires. The perfect candidate may come along, but I’ll settle for Palin in the meantime.
But it’s only fiscal conservatives who are all about “purity” at the expense of a big tent, right?
Something tells me people mistake “open sky” for a big tent.