May 19, 2010

"Chuck Schumer vs. Free Speech"

From the “some pigs are more equal than others” file:

Perhaps the most striking thing about the Disclose Act is that, while the Supreme Court overturned limits on spending by both corporations and unions, Disclose seeks to reimpose them only on corporations.

Well, in fairness to Schumer, corporations are evil, and unions are good. So what’s not to like?

As a bonus, media exemptions under the proposed bill will extend to major media corporations — but not to websites or the internet. Where all that free speech has proven most costly to elected officials.

This way, you see, only the right kinds of things will be “disclosed” — to your collective benefit, and just as God intended it. After all, too much information — particularly when it is the kind that escapes the helpful filtering of our betters — is a distraction from the real goal: learning the lessons the government wants you to learn by engaging only those narratives the government wants you engaging.

Because frankly, all this freedom is making some of you proles rather, you know, uppity

(h/t Terry H and JHo)

Posted by Jeff G. @ 9:52am
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  1. Because frankly, all this freedom is making some of you proles rather, you know, uppity…

    You ain’t seen nuthin’ yet, baby!

  2. I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really do not like Schumer.

    On a related note, I saw a title that claimed Apple denied someone their free speech rights, and my head nearly exploded. How dense are some people?

  3. Thanks God that O! & Co believe in transparency and are dedicated to an educated indoctrinated electorate.

    How hypocritical is it that they want to muzzle the internet and restrict all that crazy corporate cash; especially after they used it to vilify Boooooooooooosh! and get the won! elected?

    Forget it, no need to answer. It’s difficult to imagine infinite quantities…

  4. Well, as we all know, Corporations are nameless and faceless entities who’s very existence is spawn from the deepest parts of hell.

    Whereas Unions are just people who want their voice to be heard.

  5. I second JD on Chuckie, and wish to tack on another 20 or so instances of “really.” Just hearing or reading that man’s name sends me into a higher state of annoyance than normal.

  6. Chuck Scummer — the scummier chucklehead!

  7. Chuck Schumer? What a putzhead.

  8. Union Men are always good.

    Real good.

    Although give the Wobblies credit, they have us this tune in a rare moment of candor.

  9. Can we form an Outlaw Union or something, and have the benefits of these special laws for unions?

  10. “Democracy Is Strengthened by Casting Light On Spending in Elections Act, or Disclose Act”

    Democracy is strengthened. That’s a dubious enough proposition in itself. But there’s a further question to be asked, namely: Is this a democracy, plain and simple? Was it intended to be?

  11. I try not to loathe people too much, but in Schumers case I have to agree with JD. The man is the perfect example of the corrupt lying politician.

  12. Is this a democracy, plain and simple? Was it intended to be?

    Yes, in all it’s dirty imperfect and annoying glory. It reflects exactly the sort of men that we have decided best represent our interests.

  13. No, I think not, as the term appears nowhere in the Constitution, but we do see this:

    Article IV, Section 4 —

    The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

  14. sdferr

    Are you suggesting that a representative republic is not a form of democracy? I will grant that it is not pure democracy, but it is democracy all the same.

  15. I’m suggesting Madison wasn’t spouting off distinctions just for the fun of spouting off distinctions:

    from Federalist 10 […]

    A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking. Let us examine the points in which it varies from pure democracy, and we shall comprehend both the nature of the cure and the efficacy which it must derive from the Union.

    The two great points of difference between a democracy and a republic are: first, the delegation of the government, in the latter, to a small number of citizens elected by the rest; secondly, the greater number of citizens, and greater sphere of country, over which the latter may be extended.

  16. Note please the words “pure democracy” in the Madison quote as long as we are going to talk of distinctions.

  17. When that lying crapweasel Shumer looks over those reading glasses perched on his nose, I wish one time the person that Chuckles thinks he is superior to while glaring at him would knock that smug self-lefteous look off of his face.

  18. Which was why I asked the question as to a “democracy plain and simple”, right?

  19. It isn’t a pure democracy, but then I guess I’m not sure why you added that bit in the first place.

  20. Let me say then, I added it because I understood that plain and simple refers to democracy plain and simple, which is to say, democracy unmodified by such terms as “representative” or otherwise. And because our form of government isn’t a democracy. It’s a Federal Republic.

    Why? Because democracy as conceived by Madison and his fellow framers is a contemptible thing. And for good reason, since the demos, as they saw it, will be contemptible and act contemptibly.

  21. Fine, and I assert that a representative republic is a form of Democracy. If you disagree then so be it, otherwise we should perhaps consider ourselves in violent agreement.

  22. What is the good thing we want from a democratic principle Makewi? (I think there is such a thing, indeed, but I wonder where you fix it?) That is, why is it right and proper that you should insist that ours is a “form of democracy”?

  23. Chuckie “Bank Killer” Schumer has an issue with the free speech of people and groups he doesn’t like? How very Statist of him. How very unsurprising.

  24. Oops, sorry. I think my comment was off-topic.

  25. I’ll save some time and just point to the definition I’m working from.

    democracy (the political orientation of those who favor government by the people or by their elected representatives)

    democracy, republic, commonwealth (a political system in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who can elect people to represent them)

    majority rule, democracy (the doctrine that the numerical majority of an organized group can make decisions binding on the whole group)

  26. Is this a democracy, plain and simple? Was it intended to be?

    Given the words I’ve highlighted and their placement in sdferr’s question, there is no way for the answer to be anything but no: it is not, nor was it intended to be, a plain and simple democracy.

    If instead sdferr meant to describe his question as “plain and simple,” the answer might be more, er, complex.

    Personally, I grew tired of the question about thirty years ago.

  27. no

  28. From the first link:

    Those regulatory burdens often fall hardest not on large-scale players in the political world but on spontaneous grass-roots movements, upstart, low-budget campaigns, and unwitting volunteers.

    From an interesting, if off-topic, link at Maggies Farm:

     California has piled every imaginable burden on businesses. Minimum-wage laws are among the highest in the country, and health and safety regulations are among the strictest; cities like San Francisco and San Jose require businesses to offer employees health insurance; labor laws are extremely union-friendly; environmental policies drive up energy costs—and on and on. Small firms have the toughest time in this business-toxic climate.

    Noticing a common theme?

  29. The two great points of difference between a democracy and a republic are…

    Kinda speaks for itself now doesn’t it?