Because a VAT tax just isn’t as fun to implement if you can’t find an additional 12 or so million people to pony up and pay it.
Plus, bonus: 12 million new (potentially Democrat) voters, instantly spawned in the name of “fiscal responsibility”! What’s not to like? From the Hill:
Democrats want immigration reform on the table as the White House fiscal commission examines ways to reduce deficits, saying there is a “credible connection” between the issue and the country’s fiscal situation.
Service Employees International Union (SEIU) President Andy Stern and Rep. Xavier Becerra (Calif.), both Democrats on the bipartisan fiscal commission, said reforms giving the 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States a chance to stay in the U.S. legally could boost the economy and thereby help pay down the debt.
In a letter sent Monday to the commission’s co-chairmen, Stern listed “comprehensive immigration reform” as one of six issues he wants the commission to address, along with entitlements, retirement security, the budget process, defense spending and the tax code.
“Our current set of circumstances has 12 million people working in this country and not maximizing their contributions to the economy,” Stern told The Hill.
Becerra, a member of the House Democratic leadership and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, said there’s a “credible connection” between immigration and the country’s economic situation. Millions work in an “underground economy” in which they neither pay taxes nor contribute to entitlement programs such as Social Security, he said.
“If you’re thinking in terms of this fiscal commission and our efforts to try to get this budget realigned, it makes sense to consider something that could add tens of billions or hundreds of billions to the economy,” Becerra said in an interview.
Getting rid of the underground economy by enforcing federal illegal immigration law? Not on the table.
A “credible connection” between illegal immigration, the underground economy, and entitlements to law breakers that overtax resources and drive up costs? Not found.
Color me shocked.
Too bad for the silly godbothering racist failbot haters on the right that they didn’t get behind the amnesty push before this ideologically neutral report came out. Because then, not only would they have shown themselves to be in favor of dignity and against xenophobic hatred and scapegoating, but they wouldn’t today look like bitter clinging obstructionits willing to damage the long-term economic future of this country if it means not nationalizing a whole new group of newly tax-burdened low-wage workers.
As it stands, though, they are committed to opposition to amnesty — and so are committed to hoping America fails.
Where’s the dignity in that?
It’s because the godbother’s hate deficit reduction.
And, it’s racist to talk about the “credible connection” between
illegalsundocumented workers and financial strain on 1) our health care system, 2) our criminal justice system, and 3) our school systems.Yes, the only solution is to tax ’em with the VAT.
Close the border, morons. Then we’ll talk. Well, at least that’s what I interpret Jimmy Swaggart and Jimmy Bakker to be saying to me – oh, and Charles Krauthammer.
And Peggy Noonan. She said it too.
Do they really really want to talk about a pro-growth approach to deficit reduction?
I don’t think they really really do.
Stern listed “comprehensive immigration reform” as one of six issues he wants the commission to address, along with entitlements, retirement security, the budget process, defense spending and the tax code.
Notice what issues he does not want to discuss?
The commission has to look at oil drillings next I guess, and trade policy.
RACIST:
But, would they pay union dues?
I know we’ve talked about this before, but I don’t think it can be trumpeted enough:
The commission isn’t scheduled to issue its final recommendations until December.
As in, of course, the month following November.
Fucktards.
Last one:
Fucktarded tool. Average income of an “illegal” is what? 59% of them live at or near the poverty level.
obstructionits
I know that’s a typo, but I like it. “Obstructio-nits,” as in “nit-wits.”
Works for me.
If you are thinking in terms of efforts to try [HA!] to get this budget realigned, it makes sense to consider something that could subtract hundreds of billions from the budget to start with. Gee. Cut spending! What a novel idea!
OT:
Woohoo!
The House couldn’t lose a more loserly loser bh. Cheers resound.
If they keep retiring from these seats, they’re going to have to defend across the board. They simply won’t have the money.
Huzzah!
And Peggy Noonan. She said it too.
But I done
Julian Sanchez’depistemically closed her out of conservatism a long time ago, Carin. Therefore, she is wrong!According to DailyCaller, attributing to Politico:
These are the White House’s amnesty targets among Senate Republicans. Can’t seem to get a link to go through so jes wander over and scroll down.
Towards the topic, I simply don’t understand how people could be this politically foolish. VAT polls terribly. So… tie it to amnesty… which polls terribly.
I think they should consider bringing up the stimulative effect of flag burning.*
*Yes, I know, broken windows fallacy.
I predict they get no one, sdferr. And they have their own defections galore.
“…how people could be this politically foolish…”
I suspect this is one of those deals of the consequence of believing their own line of hooey bh, isn’t it?
Lisa Murkowski has to feel like Palin is just right there, on her Murkowski ass, just waiting.
The Dem motto for 2010 seems to be, “Safe seats are for pussies.”
Epistemic closure!
And that motto follows on their 2009 motto “Whatever doesn’t kill me will make me stronger.”
I don’t know much about this immigration thing but I sure hope Lindsey Lohan has a brief conversation with the ghost of Linda Lovelace soon.*
Yeah, just like Obamacare is going to help the deficit. Ha, ha, ha, ha……
I can see November from my house…..
Obey press conference right now.
Wow. David Obey is retiring. Adios, jackass!
He’s saying one of his proudest moment was opposing the fiscally irresponsible Reagan budgets!
He follows this by saying he’s proud of the stimulus!
His only apology is that the stimulus wasn’t bigger!
Ripping on Bush tax cuts for the rich and the Iraq war and Wall Street fat cats.
That’s not fresh thinking, he says.
Says he doesn’t want a slick actor to take his seat. (Dig on Duffy (R), Real World alum and Ashland DA)
Back to ripping on tax cuts for the rich.
Health care reform, historic. Said he didn’t want to leave Congress until it passed. Shout out to Pelosi.
Extremely partisan all and all. Like a campaign speech.
(Local news keeps mentioning that his late retirement announcement really screwed the Dems. They’ve cut away from him now.)
Can we long for a day when a newsmedia may speak openly of a loathsome man as loathsome? Yes we can.
I can only say that I shan’t shed any tears, as a Soldier, to see Rep. Obey leave Congress. He was not our friend.
I doubt anyone could begrudge you that, LTC John.
More of a friend of Code Pink, isn’t he?
I think I could lose a toe mowing the lawn today and still be in a good mood.
Wisconsin, now only 73% political joke! Change!
What planet are these motherfuckers on. This is bizarre. On so many levels.
A value added tax, amnesty, and the healthcare bill all in one election cycle.
I am going to miss the Democrat party.
Sweet flaming Jesus.
Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees
That’s right. Just lie back and think of Mexico.
That is just bizarre, Pablo. Perhaps the offended students might be encouraged to make sense of why they’d feel offended over an American Flag on Cinco de Mayo.
I’m trying to imagine getting upset by seeing Mexican flags if I was in Mexico on the 4th of July.* I can’t. Really.
*Yes, I know, Cinco de Mayo isn’t Sept 16th.
I subtly capitalized the American flag and not the Mexican flag above.
Nativist! Or, just another of my gazillion typos.
Feliz cinco de quatro, racists !!!
Happy five of four to you as well, JD.
Did you catch Barcky pandering to Los Suns yesterday?
I just read Karl Rove’s column about President Civility. He failed to note that the dirty little socialist calls people that disagree with his infinite wisdom teabaggers.
I am going to make up some Quatro de Mustard tee shirts to sell next May 4.
Put pictures of four different jars on the front.
McGehee would like a cuarto de mayonnaise t-shirt.
I agree guys. I can’t imagine why there would be any problem. I mean, I presume the folks there celebrating Cinco de Mayo are Mexican-Americans, right? So what’s the problem?
Here on Long Island, every little community has their own Irish Day celebrations at various times during the year; a custom that surely allows for Guinness-flowing street festivals for all to travel and partake in from the local areas. Like all good festivals, there are usually parades. And while they are wearing Irish Regalia, there are always American flags prominently dispayed, in the slightly higher, and/or leading, position of respect as dicatated by custom and protocol.
Oh, and while there are mucho drunk guys, there doesn’t ever seem to be much civil disturbances occuring either.
This is what’s at the root of the identity politics disfuntion that plagues modern America, each tribe is so busy celebrating their heritage that they forget the guiding ideal; “E Pluribus Unum”…
Assimilation, putas!, it’s what’s for breakfast!
That should translate as “mayonnaise room” but I am not really all that good with my espanol.
Cinco de Mayo is not a day for patriotism.
WHO FILLED MY SINK WITH MAYONNAISE!!???
Great comments! I received a link from a friend about a company that is publishing a book called My American Perspective – Arizona’s Immigration Law – SB1070. They are looking for people to send in their opinions about this topic. They will be printing the book soon and want supporting and detracting opinions on the subject. Neat site, I submitted my opinion yesterday, check them out at, http://www.myamericanperspective.com