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I know, aren’t I? And after having received such kindnesses from those solicitous folks who really only want to talk about the issues, if only I’d be willing. Instead? Nothing but seething hatred and violence.
Well, except for the other stuff — the stuff without the seething hatred and violence. But then, that doesn’t really tell us much. The seething hatred and violence is what’s dispositive.
G’night. Time to take one of my special pills, then drift off to my secret place where I get to mow down women with an anti-aircraft gun.
Armed Liberal.
Sound threatening to me.
I’ll be in the bunker sorting my Holy Cards.
Armed Liberal hasn’t the stomach for Fruity Pebbles! SHOCKA!!!
zounds!
So, wait, he really doesn’t get it? That’s, well, that’s not good, that’s just not good at all.
Well, I gave it to him with both barrels as “takla makan,” because that was the only ID of his I could use. No Blogger or Google ID?
Jerk.
“G’night. Time to take one of my special pills, then drift off to my secret place where I get to mow down women with an anti-aircraft gun.”
Are Nishi and Mandy on your target list?
GREAT comment dicentra. Or should I call you Takla?
“My view of politics is essentially communitarian – i.e. that it takes place within a community of people bound together in a polity, who agree to be bound by political decisions and who – to some extent – yield their personal power over their public lives to the political community.
This model allows for a wide range of politics – it works as a construct that limits government power by the consent of the governed, and one that expands it (i.e. it’s not inherently opposed to or in favor of any specific exercise of government power). It says simply that we are fellow citizens and that we will, grudgingly sometimes, accept the decisions made by our political process even when they contradict our own desires.”
Yet, he has the word “liberty” first at the top of his blog?!?!
Does his statement contradict that idea, given that liberty essential entails the right not to participate in said community?
Fuck it, kill them all and let Chuck Norris sort them out…
A mob democracy. Or a constitutional republic. The Democrat Party’s vision of Amerika. Who knows?
OK, a mob democracy then. Or the Democrat Party’s Amerikan Obarkycare bill: We’ll pass it, then, in “any specific exercise of govt power”, decide what it does.
All those wonderful patriotically-dissenting folks threatening to move to Canada and France during the Dark Bush Ages because they couldn’t pee on this constitutional republic? Like that. Kindly do so.
@Dicentra,
I was about to respond to Armed Liberal but you beat me to it. And, I must add, did so in a much more eloquent manner than I would have.
Anyway, fabulous takedown.
G’night. Time to take one of my special pills, then drift off to my secret place where I get to mow down women with an anti-aircraft gun.
Well I never!
That’s it, Jeff. I’m done with you forever. Such hate-filled hate-iness deserves no place in our political discourse. PLEASE THINK OF TEH CHILDREN!1!!! BECAUSE OF TEH VERBAL VIOLENCE IN UR HEAD!!!4
Good DAY, sir!
Lt. York beat me to it. That opening gloss is self contradictory. A government cannot be simultaneously ‘limited’ while still ‘not inherently opposed to or in favor of any specific exercise of government power.’
When an initial premise is so full of fail how does one proceed to take anything that follows as worthy of consideration.
Armed Liberal.
It’s a shame he’s not brained.
He is opposed to the use of force by the individual, he presupposes its use by the majority.
Further down the page at Liberal’s shingle we find this gleaming insight,
Like Deb Frisch. Befitting ostracization.
What’s that line about ego trumping the product of ignorance and intellectual dishonesty, which is jackassery.
will you be giving lessons on “bullying and hate”?
While personally armed. It’s almost like there’s some other dynamic going on here.
Something about the way he writes makes me want to punch him in the face.
I think the whole issue is that Jeff actually meant the words that he said…that if one of these clowns spoke these words to his face, he would really actually physically hurt them.
In the networld, you’re not allowed to mean things like that. It begs the question on language.
What, specifically, is Jeff supposed to have done? Pardon me for my ignorance, but I can’t figure out Winds of Change’s problem.
Armed Liberal.
His point about not being a community of “blood and soil” I don’t think is completely accurate. For their ilk, it’s your blood, their soil.
Let’s not forget that Patterico is, maybe, an anti-Semite and Jeff’s last name is “Goldstein” – coincidence? causal? Who knows? whether Assistant Deputy District Patrick Frey is an anti-Semite? Not me. I’m just wondering.
Because Patterico encourages real-world stalking of Jeff on Patrick’s site and all … and hate, too.
The Violence Rehash from 2009
Teh interwebs – because “forgive, but remember” is the new black.
A quick note to Marc –
You value empathy.
So, open up the commenting system so that you can get a heaping helping of all that polity from the community.
Jeff does.
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And, I’ll note that your March 27th “I regret siding with Jeff re: Fr_sch” is trumped by your March 29th “I would have done worse [violence] to Deb had it been my family.”
I realize a foolish consistency is a hobgoblin and all that, but – Jeezus – two days? Should we wait a couple of days to see if you’re still against Jeff?
Should we check back on WindsofChange two months after you open up the commenting system at your site and see what you think of the community and its polity?
.
For the visually inclined, here’s the recap:
Jeff’s the guy on the right
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He was pretty big on the whole “pushing people out of the conversation” thing too. But Danziger is his buddy, so all is well. Oh, and guess who takes another swing at intentionalism, with a heaping helping of irony?
Funny, ain’t it?
It’ll be difficult for Scotty boy’s rant to disappear, however embarrassing it might prove to Patrick Frey.
From the “Words Mean Things” Department
#17 from Author Profile Page Armed Liberal in reply to Glen Wishard | March 28, 2010 5:15 PM | Reply
Glen, there’s a world of difference between an ‘acid tone’ (I have all of Twain and Mencken on the shelves) and “if I ever meet you, I’ll kick your ass” and “fucked with an ice dildo” – even giving credit for the general degradation of discourse caused by Jackass reruns.
Jeff used “ice dong” not “ice dildo”
It might seem to be a minor distinction – but, as Mark Twain said, the right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug.
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My community has it’s Polident.
Lovely word “violence”. Quite meaningful when applied to acts of nature such as tornadoes, hurricanes, and earthquakes. When applied to humans however it is most useful to spread that miasma of “moral equivalence” thickly throughout any argument. The actions of the BTK serial killer, violence. The actions of his victims defending themselves, why that’s violence too.
See how easily the same word is applied to Jeff bringing a tree or his big swinging cock to a verbal duel and the murdering of even children and calls for a new and this time complete Holocaust. “Violence”, it’s for moral equivalence, the nuclear option.
Pretty funny stuff for a guy whose very name brings more than a tree to any internet argument.
There is no set of shared values of any size. It’s whoever wins now. If there were shared values there could be a refined debate. But there aren’t so there can’t.
What do left and right share? Don’t strangle five-year-olds? Don’t stick pitch forks in grandmothers? Not much else.
Winning means attracting the muddle enough to get a majority and leaving your opponent in the minority. The muddle will not find cowardice or shrinking violets attractive. They go whichever way the wind blows. They don’t run deep. That’s why they’re the muddle. But there’s a bonus: they have a vague and murky grasp on liberty and prosperity. That is why the right has the best chance of winning and why the left has to lie and destroy in order to win.
It’s whoever wins now. Make the case to the muddle but stand up to the left.
Latex or sheep-intestine?
I read the whole thing trying to see how this Armed Liberal person isn’t a goof-ass. I couldn’t see it. He’s just a very overwrought little man.
Jeff’s too scary for Marc’s site too scary for Marc’s site
Marc’s going to denounce him
Jeff’s too scary for Patterico too scary for Patterico
So scary it hurts
And Jeff’s too scary for SEK too scary for SEK
LGF and Professor Keitley
And Jeff’s too scary for the conservative blogosphere
Too scary for the conservative blogosphere
No way Jeff’s disco dancing
Jeff’s a classical liberal you know what I mean
And he does his thing at Protein Wisdom
Yeah at Protein Wisdom at Protein Wisdom yeah
He does his thing at Protein Wisdom
Jeff’s too scary for a link too scary for a link
Too scary by far (except occasionally by RSM and once in a while by Glenn Reynolds)
And Jeff’s too scary for Roger’s hat
Too scary for Roger’s hat what do you think about that
Jeff’s a writer you know what I mean
And he does his little thing at Protein Wisdom
Yeah at Protein Wisdom at Protein Wisdom yeah
His little armidillo drinks beer at Protein Wisdom
Jeff’s too scary for his too scary for his too scary for his
‘Cos he’s a writer you know what I mean
And he does his thing at Protein Wisdom
Yeah at Protein Wisdom at Protein Wisdom yeah
The little armadillo shakes on Friday nights
Jeff’s too scary for Marc too scary for Marc
Poor pussy poor pussy Marc
Jeff’s too scary for their links too scary for their links
So scary it stinks
And Jeff’s too scary for this song
pussy! That’s the word I was looking for.
Trying to paint a picture of anyone based on this flimsy patchwork of comments would be idiotic. But in the case of Jeff – who argues with relentless intensity when he gets wound up – you can only feel embarrassed for the people leveling accusations. It’s more cowardly than waving a white flag to suggest the bullying and intimidation stems from threats as opposed to their inability to stand in the ring for ten rounds like men.
As Barney Miller once said (paraphrasing from memory), “I don’t have enough friends that I can afford to throw them away.” Is the goal to be ideologically pure? Or something else?
Oh, dicentra: I just read your first comment over at windsofchange. Excellent, and agreed. Well said!
Someone should tell Danziger that he’s mispelled “Heidegger”, but it’s not worth signing in to do that.
And Scott Jacobs’ protestations ought to be countered with a collection of all the smack talk he emitted in this thread.
Those are things you don’t say to someone in person, unless you’re prepared to make a trip to the parking lot and hash them out manually. Sorry, no self-respecting man would permit that kind of abuse in person. The Internet has permitted Scotty (just indulging in one of Jacobs’ predilections for a moment by way of illustration) the illusion that courtesy doesn’t count. You can call someone a liar, a retard, a psychopath, and all manner of other things, and no consequences at all will come your way.
Lots of people don’t grow up much past their first couple of hours on the Internet.
Oh, also Scott’s reply to Jeff:
Taking
thehis own high road, this one is not.All of the above taken from the previous thread on this subject.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGoZcPayJds
Despicable
Danziger is certainly entitled to his opinion. He is not, however, entitled to his own facts. He is ismply wrong on the facts thus rendering his oponion a nullity.
simply! opinion! PIMF!!!
Just me or is it a mortal lock that that Scott Jacobs guy has a sweaty face and kinda bulgy eyes?
Possibly of relevance, from a comment here. My bold.
Well, I hope for the sake of future Googles, some of you who were around are correcting the record over there and not just here. I mean, I realize it’s a pain to have to go through the whole registration thing to join a communitarian polity you should already be a part of, but, like, suck it up, you dig?
The registration process to comment was actually pretty simple. Took about 10 seconds, then confirmed via email, then commented.
Like sands in the hourglass, so go the days of our blogs.
Seriously, what is it with people who have to make a big deal about Jeff standing up for himself?
This armed liberal guy talks about how he would respond more violently (I guess?) to the She-who-should-not-be-named drama Jeff had to go through years ago, and then he whines like a little girl when Jeff asks some anonymous turd to back up his insults with action? He doesn’t find this a little hypocritical?
And seriously, IT’S A FUCKING BLOG FOR CHRISSAKES!!! NO ONE FUCKING CARES IN THE REAL WORLD WHO YOU DO AND DO NOT LINK TO!!!!
Jesus.
Sorry, but I had to get that off my chest. These blog dramas annoy the piss out of me.
Well, for the sake of future googles, Marc is getting his ass handed to him, and his responses are really weak.
I said my piece. I thought I was very polite about it.
The hate at this blog, it is so visceral. It smells like burnt hair and body odor.
This is not the product of a rigorous thinker. If you take the second sentence as the thesis, you’ll notice that the rest of the paragraph just flails about without supporting it in the least.
As it doesn’t relate to this blog, I don’t feel the need to point this out to him in his comments. But, damn.
A is A. If you don’t get that, don’t waste everyone’s time.
you dig?
Soon’s I get off this friggin frone and home on the ‘puter, dad.
Marc has responded? All I’m hearing are crickets.
That means my political style / substance is somewhere between linguistic discussions, bravado, Shannon Elizabeth’s nipples and Leif Garrett’s smack stash. Yes?
Why pick one to isolate? He asked. Not really all that incredulously.
It’s a struggle to take someone seriously when they say something like, “In a nutshell, I find it hard not to conflate two separate things.”
I wonder, while he’s banging his wife, if he practices proper political etiquette? “Oh my God, that feels so fucking…whoops, my 3 minutes is up. Would you like to rebut?”
Life is not all politics, dude.
Other things that confuse Marc: punk bands wearing suits, pretty girls in sundresses at a 1930’s Nazi rally, and inedible plastic fruit.
Dude!
When was this golden age of PW violence that I missed? I know I’ve only been reading here a few years now, but was this place the “Dodge City” of blogs before then? Somehow, I’m not getting that impression from the proproetary blogger nor the kind of folks that comprise the commentariat…
Jeff, threatening to “beat people up” in response to repeated vile personal insults: bad. Worst of the worst, in fact.
This guy, fantasizing about killing people in fights to the death over impolite political speech: apparently okay.
Nice link, Brendan.
But do know that he was only “dreaming” of running people through with a sword or shooting them at 20 paces. Whereas I was gonna snap some shit.
Just me or is it a mortal lock that that Scott Jacobs guy has a sweaty face and kinda bulgy eyes?
Graves Disease? Sure, it’s a drag, because they have to irradiate your thyroid to kill it, then you take Synthroid for the rest of your natural life, but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t affect one’s character.
“Jeff, threatening to “beat people up” in response to repeated vile personal insults: bad. ”
I’m thinking that is a misguided take on reality.
It wasn’t threats to beat someone up, it was an observation that if said in person, as opposed to on the internet from behind a alias, the rhetoric wouldn’t go so far. Because of the tongue being pulled out and such.
Actually, I see it as an appeal for more civil discourse by pointing out that liberties are being taken by virtue of the medium.
Oh, and squeals of violent intimidation from a guy going by the pseudonym “armed liberal”? Makes my irony bone ache.
That fellow Scott is probably a wanna-be attorney law clerk, a vibe I get from his constatnt arguing of the law without actually citing it. I also infer that he’s a short, pusillanimous kind of fellow in real life; the typical real world Walter Mitty, who suffers from a Napoleon complex, turned internet Superman.
He’d no more say things to anyone in person, than he would rationally argue with them on the internet.
Such is the problem with the harrumphing over methodological purity. Once you conflate style with substance, it becomes simple to ignore one or the other at will to produce your desired result.
Like Patterico’s style over Jeff’s? Then it’s okay to embrace a self-contradicting argument, even though such ideology is exactly the self-defeating rhetoric your ideological antagonists want you to embrace.
Jeff responded angrily to personal attacks from one of your buddies? Then by all means, hold Jeff to the higher standard of behavior while tut-tutting from your claimed moral high ground, protectively cradling your buddy in your paternal wings as he cries and blows raspberries.
In the meantime, the war of ideas rages on, and you’ve placed shackles on your ankles because the crack shot soldier next to you keeps farting.
I gotta say, and I’ve said it before, I like the idea of the practice of dueling making a comeback.
Be a far better society in my opinion…
Heh, di, I was thinking more like this.
The bone crushing violence!
“In the meantime, the war of ideas rages on, and you’ve placed shackles on your ankles because the crack shot soldier next to you keeps farting.”
Ok, looks like we have another line for the Hall of Fame.
Man, I love this place!
Lee —
Or at least, we don’t pretend the vapors when we suggest that certain disputes are best handled interpersonally. Why is smacking someone in the mouth privately inherently worse (the violence!) than using Google algorithms to dry to taint them and make them unemployable?
I’ll tell you why: because that’s the coward setting the rules for us to play by. Fuck that. I don’t accept their premise.
bh:
Ewwwwwww!
I’ve seen Scott’s photograph, and he’s not really bulgy and sweaty.
The whole eye-bulging quality of his writing does seem overdone, though.
Is there a Pulitzer for understatement, he wondered?
Code Pink mobs?
This fellow doesn’t offer much beyond pulling down his metaphorical pants and showing his ass, does he?
“Why is smacking someone in the mouth privately inherently worse (the violence!) than using Google algorithms to dry to taint them and make them unemployable?”
Probably for the same reason that it’s best to let a whole school full of junior high students become unteachable rather than paddling one unruly troublemaker.
VIOLENCE NEVER SOLVES ANYTHING!!
The Founding Fathers heaped vitriol upon each other. I don’t think they’d have a problem with their faithful descendants heaping it upon the dirty leftists who detest them and would destroy what they created.
wanna-be attorney law clerk [vibe]
With so many innacuracies, I was guessing reporter.
Because Patt…er, whoever would say that type of thing, is a pussy? I mean in the classic sense of a 98 pound weakling. So a violent altercation, in which he would most likely lose 99 times out of 100 (the 100th time would be someone like RD), is just horrible. Just plain horrible. The worst thing possible.
“Because Patt…er, whoever would say that type of thing, is a pussy? ”
I think it’s because Frey, umm, I mean some people, put pragmatism above honor.
Honor is a much under appreciated virtue these days.
Life from both sides now…
Pretty much nails me, I guess.
Except for the part about my “lying.” I’d have to see proof of that. Or the part about my thinking intentionalism is some mystical abstruse bit of academic knowledge that only I am privy to, given that I’ve said on numerous occasions that intentionalism just is. Or the part about thinking I’m a “savant”. Which, who knows where that comes from.
I never claimed to be a genius. I claimed to suss out the abuse of language I see the right engaging in at the behest of the left — whether they know they are doing so or not.
If that makes me an “ugly piece of shit” who is guilty of multiple instances of acting “pathetic,” so be it.
I’ll leave it to geniuses like “dustin” to reconcile his approval for Scott and the tone of his post with his characterizations of me as “ugly.”
As for Scott’s (now repeated) chest poundings, again: I have never claimed to go looking for people like Scott. What I’ve said is, should I run into them, I’ll offer them the opportunity to say to my face what they find so easy to attach to my name in public, for the purposes of tethering their smears to me by way of search engine.
Such behavior is cowardly. And I find it amusing that I’m consistently accused of threatening violence by a guy who can’t read my name without telling everybody how awful I am, and how he despises my very being, etc.
Keep the faith, Scott. Who knows? Someday our paths might cross, and you’ll be able to show everyone just how truly committed you are to your attacks on people’s character.
inacc adda da vida, baby.
“Comment by dustin — 3/30/2010 @ 11:02 am”
dustin is a regular at Pat’s I’m guessing?
Very pragmatic comment if so.
So, I take it that Justin doesn’t like you, Jeff? Pity. Now you’ll miss out on all his insightful and witty banter.
When someone’s got 10 IQ points on you and it shows, there’s a temptation to succumb to the resentful “that jerk thinks he’s so smart! He’s really a big zero!” and then hide this debauchery from yourself by adding in some faint praise and some fake modesty.
It helps that they tend to do so on sites that don’t allow me to comment, Jim.
Protects the integrity of the argument, that hermetic seal.
But don’t worry: they are so not like a Brian Kiteley. Because they are conservatives!
#81 There you go again, being all hatey and stuff. That’s all it is here, Hatey McHaterson, 24/7. At least, that’s how it’s going to be spun, yet again.
It’s like those people are reading a completely different site.
He doesn’t read the site, cranky-d. Instead, he took Frey’s word for everything.
Not my idea of “research,” but then, I have slightly different standards, I guess.
Marc responds to your responses and mine:
There’s a reason they are called google “bombs”. Violence isn’t always violency! Isn’t that what kids TV has been telling me all these years?
This guy? He beat me up and took a lot of my money. I got mad. He said, “Look, we share a lot of the same values. Let’s calm down, treat each other civilly, and work from that common value base. You’re angry and unhinged.” I said, “Okay, but next time I might get really mad.” And then he beat me up again, stole more of my money, and defamed me to 300 million people. I got mad. He said, “Look, we share….” Etc.
What really makes me wonder is how that dude knew I was wearing my cheerleader outfit today.
Somehow
doesn’t really look or sound much like
On the other hand, given the level of argument he finds persuasive, I can see where he’s coming from.
I am not sure I’m To Sexy by Right Said Fred is the gayest song of all time, but it is definitely up there. Yes part of the joke was putting this issue in the context of a ridiculously gay song–where it obviously belongs. But the joke was intended to mock Marc’s ritualistic posing of publically de-linking Protein Wisdom allegedly due to Jeff’s sardonic prose style of blogging. I am glad that Marc can laugh at himself.
This is almost a segway to the Letterman posts…
What sdferr said.
Oh well, it’s not really our job to explain to him how his very premise is a negation of logical thinking.
Style ? substance.*
How can you kill babies ?
ah, aim a little lower and lead a little less …
Alinsky Serpent Puts the Squeeze on Liberals ’til Their Inner Child Pops Out…
Secret minutes of a National Committee……
Whereas the trying to get your point across by yelling? That builds the bridges and encourages the holding hands and singing Kum Ba Yah.
Can I NOW say that Marc is an idiot? How many times does anyone, including Jeff, have to remind these people that the alleged “violence” was only an invitation to man up should they ever meet. It wasn’t even, “If I ever see you, I’m going to beat the shit out of you”. It was, and I’m paraphrasing, “I will give you an opportunity to say the heinous things you have said about me in the bubble wrap of the internet to my face”. These people are pragmatic? I guess as absolute spineless wimps, yes they are.
I meant to add, that if Jacobs was truly dumb enough to do just that, than he would be the violent person. Jeff was a gentleman for offering an out.
Damn comment spam is getting aggressive these days ain’t it? Time was it snuck around in the dead of night on threads months long dead.
Obamaspam.
But the effect of the threat – in conversation – remains chilling.
It’s supposed to be! Not chilling of dialogue in general, mind you, but certainly chilling of the sort of trash-talk that passes for “argument” or “dialogue” from the Scott Jacobses and Thors of the world. And frankly, I don’t see how chilling that sort of speech is really a bad thing.
It’s like we’re all supposed to just sit and eat the shit they dish out to us, and the moment we react in any non-sanctioned way (where all the sanctioning is done by our self-appointed Moral Superiors), they take us to task for “childish behavior” or “chilling of speech,” and then write us off as worthy debate partners.
How self-serving is that? And how stupid is it that they think such arbitrary rule-making and rhetorical handicapping is ever going to fly at a site that’s dedicated to rooting out these very tools and tactics?
Honestly, I know it’s supposed to feel like a loss when you’re cut off by your neighbors, but for as blinkered and hypocritical and just willfully ignorant these clowns are, it’s hard to take their shunning as anything other than a relief.
Wear it as a badge of honor, Jeff. These faux-phistocates are a joke.
As a cheerleader am I required to wear that short little skirt? Because I’m thinking none of you want to see that.
Can Darleen do a cartoon with President Obama “drilling” Mother Gaia? In honor of the lefties going nuts over Obama’s plan for a tiny increase in off shore drilling.
Tastefully of course. We do not want to make certain bloggers cry or get musky.
Blog title!
This is just more of the same liberal trope. When we call them out for saying really horrible, nasty things they respond that they’re “just kidding”. When we use allegory and metaphor they immediately take all our words at face value and use them to smear us in the MSM.
“that hermetic seal”
It was ice cream!
The hatred is very unpleasant, but very expected.
I am going to sigh now. **sigh**
Well it can lead to bombs and rocket attacks whereas other “speech” is obviously “just words.”
NSFW above and large.
These faux-phistocates are a joke.
Doucheoise, if you don’t mind.
I don’t think Wolcott can avoid that.
Remember, they had to eat that shit first. That’s why they’re so bitter. They either convinced themselves or let someone convince them that it tastes good, and not like the shit that it actually is. Misery loves company and those folks are so miserable that even when they score a big win for Team S, they’re pissy and whiny about it.
It’s almost like they’ve got a little voice in their head screaming about how fucked up they are and they can’t stand it when the voices outside their head echo the voices inside. After a lifetime spent absorbing, believing, then justifying half-truths and hypocrisy, they can’t stand the sudden consistency. It’s internally conclusive proof that they are crazy and that we’re right about them being crazy. Of course they lash out. Children always do.
At least that’s my theory. I don’t think I’m very wrong…
The hatred is very unpleasant, but very expected.
I’m not a (fourth-tier) college dropout so you’ll have to elaborate, Wolly. Is Jeff the parasitic Jew in your little psychodrama? Or is there some other reason you chose to link that?
What a joke.
Jeff, you’re one of the few people worth reading on the internet. Don’t change a thing, bub.
Can I wear a cheerleader skirt with these pointy boots?
Dunno why he’s written that, bringing a racial remark to the table. But he’s a (Armed!) Liberal; they can stir any color kettle they please, without needing to provide any explanations.
But it was a pop-gun-caliber response.
I have obliquely watched both the Fritch and Frey disputes. I am a liberal, also armed (whatever that means). Jeff is wrong on many counts, but his conduct during these dustups was measured and honorable. He did not escalate; he stood his ground, if a bit hormonally.
“Wrong on many counts”? The hell you say.
Cynn, whenever you manage to ‘stand your ground’ can we say you do so crapulently ?
Actually, I’m going to give cynn credit on this one. Full credit. Given that she’s not a conservative, she gets to assert that Jeff is wrong.
The full credit comes from her being able to differentiate between what she thinks of Jeff’s political philosophy and what she observes vis-à-vis his behavior while defending said philosophy.
It shouldn’t be a difficult task, but as we have learned from sad experience, few are those who can manage it.
You’re the model of a proper opposition commenter today, cynn.
I’m dead serious. No sarcasm this time.
I agree dicentra. Cynn’s good people. Drunk and misguided, but A-ok.
“Wrong on many counts”? The hell you say.
also cynn can be wonderfully expressive sometimes… sloshy is still a favorite
I really want to give Jeff props on his literary smarts. He and I seem to keep Flannery O’Connor in our mental parlors, as it were. For that reason alone Jeff must be champioined.
Oops, added an i and mean championed.
The difference between the almost right word & the right word is really a large matter–it’s the difference between the lightning bug and the lightning.
– Letter to George Bainton, 10/15/1888
I’m afraid a paraphrase won’t do.
You know, lighting bug vs. lightning.
Oh shit, I just did it.
Damn.
what if you had like 10,000 lightning bugs though?
shit, easyliving. I like that.
What a truck load of horse shit. Leftism is an intellectual virus: it’s taken over the Democrat Party and is killing the Catholic church. Of course Jeff is going to get the brunt; he’s got their number.
I defy any of you to defend comment #131. Eat your own poison.
ahem’s opinions aren’t my poison cynn. so why would I defend them? Or you desire me to do? Eat your own poison how’s about? It’s hard enough defending my own positions, nevermind someone else’s.
Fair enough; just don’t be unilateral. Easy Peasy.
I’m appalled by his use of “shit,” Cynn. With horses, it’s manure. Or maybe road apples. With dogs, usually shit, but poop and doo doo are acceptable. Elephant dung. Bear scat. These things are important.
Sorry Abe, but it’s a term of art. The cat is going down this weekend because she shit for the last time on the welcome mat. The end.
Alrighty then. You’ve talked me out of being appalled by his post.
In case this gets memory-holed, I had this to say to Danziger:
Don’t miss Jacobs’ late arrival to the party over at Marc’s place, spewing his anti-Jeff shit in that usual “Jeffy is a fucktard way.”
You could be sure he’d show up there. In Chicago? Not so much.
And now Mr. Reasoned Polity has closed his thread. Something or other about contagion.
My Mama was killed by an armed liberal, you know.
Watch out for them.
Communitarian politics. Closed threads.
Tell me. Does style = substance?
“Tell me. Does style = substance”
Well, I’ll say if your style is that of a adolescent girl appalled at men acting like men (an increasingly rare thing in modern America), then style affects substance.
It’s a sad thing when a man draws a line when his family is attacked, and the sympathy goes to the attacker.
“CUZ OF THE VIOLENCE!!
“You MANIAC! You INSANE MAN!”
— Simmerhorn, “Paint Your Wagon”
Popped a cork in her ass, if I recall correctly.
Communitarian/Communitarianism is similar to Environmentalist/ Environmentalism, there is a veneer, quite appealing and purposefully so, beneath which the red heart hides itself.
Nothing says a devotion to the free expression of speech like closing a thread because you do not like the speech.
Repeated attempts to register at “Blowhards of Change” were not successful. I’m glad that some folks got through, but not everyone who tried was successful.
if I recall correctly
And he seemed to be such a polite fellow.
I’m beginning to suspect that accent of his was a put on, too.
“Fuck it, kill them all and let Chuck Norris sort them out…”
But who to start with? I’m so confuckstickated…
I say we do the fellow what popped a cork in my Mama’s ass and thought it’d be a hoot to write a song about the affair.
And don’t be fooled by Smiling Myron Floren, either.
Stone cold corker, he is.
he threatened to ban me if I’m not relevant… he has no idea how relevancy-challenged I am on my best days
Ahh, common ground. Pull the trigger, Armed Liberal!
Over there:
Over here:
Solid advice. Avoid infections.
Always remember your hat.
Mr. guins you really want me banned?
That’s sad-making.
#2 from happyfeet | April 2, 2010 12:04 AM
well we certainly wouldn’t want you to feel like a tool Mr. Armed Liberal person
And your new #2 advances “our” position exactly how?
BDP delivers sound advice, sir.
Who’s BDP?
Who’s “our” position?
oh. Boogie Down Productions. I will listen again I was listening and then Mr. sdferr had some musics.
oh. It’s about rubbers.
Good, oatmeals finally here. Night, all.
enjoy your oatmeal Mr. guins
I’m not really looking to trust a big butt.
“I’ll leave it to geniuses like “dustin” to reconcile his approval for Scott and the tone of his post with his characterizations of me as “ugly.””
Oh, my comment was probably meant to be some kind of performance art thing. At least I hope so, because it’s pretty stupid and, yes, ugly. As ugly as the threats? Of course not, but I apologize for the comment anyway because it just wasn’t as funny as I must have thought it was (regarding the ridiculous hostility).