Hahahahahahahaaaaaaahahaaaaaaaaa! *Breath* Ghaghahahaaa! Bwahaaaaaaaaaa!
Republicans ignited a firestorm of controversy on Thursday by revealing some of what they had been told at a closed-door Intelligence Committee hearing on the interrogation of terrorism suspects.
Democrats immediately blasted the GOP lawmakers for publicly discussing classified information, while Republicans said Democrats are trying to hide the truth that enhanced interrogation of detainees is effective.
GOP members on the Intelligence Committee on Thursday told The Hill in on-the-record interviews that they were informed that the controversial methods have led to information that prevented terrorist attacks.
When told of the GOP claims, Democrats strongly criticized the members who revealed information that was provided at the closed House Intelligence Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations hearing. Democrats on the panel said they could not respond substantively, pointing out that the hearing was closed.
Obama wants Germany to accept Guantanamo detainees. What could go wrong?
They aren’t serious, right..?
I mean the stuff they’ve “leaked” through their staffs over the years…
Gee, I wonder how the NYTimes found out about the waterboarding and te other EIT in the first place..?
And Joey B. revealing the location of the bunker under the VP residence…
Once again the hypocrisy is mind boggling…
I mean, the O!ne himself released details of the techniques, but won’t release the successful results; and SanFranNan is calling the CIA liars…
Someone had to stick up for the intelligence community, as well as redress all of the moonbat talking points…
Our additional views will also, among other things, castigate the majority for seeking to limit the scope of the inquiry.*
So let me get this straight, Republicans did not disclose any details, other than saying there was evidence presented that shows enhanced interrogation techniques helped stop some terrorist plots. They did not say which ones, or which techniques, or what time frame…is that correct?
Dick Cheney has been saying this for years. What is the big deal of the GOP saying that? I am not a fan of EIT and think waterboarding is wrong and not worth doing, but I also think Cheney, the CIA, and the Bush Administration are entitled to defend themselves from allegations made by the Dems and the left.
Which shows many on the left and the Democratic Party really are not serious about this issue, they are more concerned with the politics of making the GOP look bad than what is actually going on.
If I were advising the Republican leadership (probably “leadership” should be in scare quotes) I would tell them to set their staffers to researching the last decade, with the goal of saying nothing publicly on the subject that wasn’t an exact quote of a Democratic politician in a similar situation.
Regards,
Ric
I can’t believe Republicans would put our country at risk like this, after they’ve been complaining about it for years. What hypocrisy!
Sandy Burglar. ‘Nuff said.
Committee Republican: “I saw Rep. Schakowsky breathe more than once during the course of the hearing. She never turned blue once. I didn’t even observe her to clinch her tiny fists in rage at what she heard presented. Oh, wait, I’m sorry, I’m not supposed to characterize anything that happened in that hearing.”
Jan Schakowsky is the dirty socialist hoochie what is married to a convicted felon what is a trashy criminal thug that’s been in and out of prison. She’s also the feeble gerrymandered whore what said tea parties are “despicable.”
Rep Schakowsky is big on rules – she strictly adhered to the rules of the prision she visited her tax felon husband in…
The Democrats are only pissed because the hearings didn’t go exactly as they wished…
If EIT’s had resulted in an abysmal batting average-so to speak, than they would have been the first one crowing to the SRM(state-run-media, formerly MSM)…
But my hunch is that that EIT’s average was pretty good, and that blew their meme up in their own face; The last thing they need is another surge debacle; the MSM was able to walk-back their proclamations of “the war is lost”…
But, if details came to light of some big-time plots being spoiled as a result of KSM’s tub sessions, well then all of their politically motivated faux Outrage! might not be walked back so easily; maybe for an attractive and glib politician such as the O!ne, but Pelosi or Waxman..? Not so easy then…
Besides, they’re working so hard to cover their messiah’s but on the effective nationalization of a large part of our economy, that they may not have the resources to cover this kind of stuff up…
I mean, they’re already brainstorming how to credibly sell the fact that Obama never promised any tax cuts; preparing to cover his ass once he inevitably raises our taxes…
Darn your faster typing skills, hf!
She’s vile and virulently anti-American, this Schakowsky woman.
oh. hey. Sorry. It’s just she’s really a problem because she perpetuates the corruption of Illinois politics. It’s scary that she’s involved in intelligence matters at all.
hf, back in the day, having such a spouse would have precluded one from getting a security clearance, much less put on a committee dealing with secrets.
“The Democrats are only pissed because the hearings didn’t go exactly as they wished…”
Yep. That’s politics for you.
Somehow Americans have put these (many) anti-American people into their Congress. It makes me wonder what came over the voters that caused them to either, 1) be fooled into believing these anti-American reps aren’t anti-American, or 2) vote for them despite their (easily) discovered anti-Americanism. It’s a curiosity, it is.
Cheney more popular than Pelosi?
You reckon that means waterboarding is more popular than botox treatments, Joe?
This is all sounding mighty familiar.
At this point, there’s enough information out in the public eye that I’m all for getting the rest out, ASAP.
sdferr–I am not sure your typical health spas are going to be offering waterboarding as a treatment anytime soon, but if any Congressional district demographic would be into it, it would be Pelosi’s.
Which leads to a different question. What makes you a conservative? This is a bizzare piece of work. I do not know where to begin.
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What’s neat is how the FIRESTORM doesn’t extend beyond the borders of this article, and it never will, but in the future, people can quote this same article to prove that it did.
That’ll be handy.
psycho, I guess that means there is a FIRESTORM everytime Rush lights a cigar.
It’s almost as funny as Cheney’s outrage that Obama would reveal the Torture Memos while simultaneously demanding that MORE (as he describes it) sensitive material should be released………….
BWAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAA snort! BwaaaaaaaaaaaHaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Let’s all just focus on the New Whigs as they melt down like the Wicked witch of the North.
Death to the War Criminals……………
What’s funny, ‘cleo, is that Teh One released all the information on the techniques, without the information on their effectiveness. That’s what Cheney wanted released. Now the Dems are furious! furious! at this breach of security, by which they mean convenient protocol.
Of course, all of this could be settled by an independent commission set up to assess Pelosi’s charges. You’d like to see that, wouldn’t you?
Dan, why are you bothering?
Semanticleo! A Sighting! Rising from the muck and mire of HopenChange!
Still dissembling, though. Ya just gotta love the categorization on the memos of the effectiveness of the enhanced interrogations as “more sensitive.”
More sensitive to whom, cleo?
“Death to the War Criminals……………”
Saddam, Uday and Qusay are dead. You are welcome.
Thanks to you and your collegues, Colonel, for helping eliminate that criminal lot…
The reason these anti-American reps keep getting elected is that their constituency does not consider them anti-American. To their supporters, America is a greatly flawed country that needs a good deal of fixing. The fact that Pelosi et. al. have to do questionable things to make those repairs really does not enter the equation.
It’s very difficult to reason with people whose world view is orthogonal to one’s own. I pretty much don’t bother any more, though I sometimes slip a bit.
LTC John
Well played.
Has “Chemical Ali” stretched a rope yet?
32 – Ali of the Sarin has had three death sentences now – but he still draws breath, I think for a while more.
Let’s all just focus on the New Whigs as they melt down like the Wicked witch of the North.
1) It was the Wicked Witch of the West, dumbass.
2) Someone’s melting down, all right, but it’s not the “New Whigs”.
Back in the troll bin you go.
Death to the War Criminals……………
oh. That little trope is thoroughly depleted. I hadn’t known. Inert. Bumper stickers on the back of the Partridge Family van have more kick.
It’s almost as funny as Cheney’s outrage that Obama would reveal the Torture Memos while simultaneously demanding that MORE (as he describes it) sensitive material should be released………….
Your reading comprehension is slipping. Cheney was outraged that the torture PHOTOS were to be released. W/o the context of the complete memos. Which Cheney wanted released.
go peddle your half-truths to the uniformed.
Why aren’t kkkleo’s droppings deleted? You wouldn’t let your dog’s crap lay in the yard where anyone could step in it, would you?
I see this has all the lefty blogs up in arms too. Meme killer gets them all upset.
You guys are missing their point. They aren’t alleging it was a breach of National Security, they don’t have a problem with that, the Republicans breached the Democratic House security, and that by God is completely unacceptable.
Treasonous fucking bastards.
WSJ: Obama HSD Intelligence Nominee withdraws.
I have to agree with Rob on this one. Cleo is obviously clinically insane. Not a shred of utility there.
As for the hypocracy of the dems? Well, duh. It’s their thing.
What goes around comes around. Seems the Democrats are late in re-learning that little rule of politics.
“Comment by Semanticleo on 6/5 @ 11:58 am #”
Do you speak English?
This is off topic by Michelle Malkin on the double standard between Tiller’s widely discussed murder and the Long Akansas soldier murder by a jihadi (which got far less attention), but what is shocking is Andrew Sullivan agrees with Malkin and admits he might have missed the later issue.
Miss KKKleo is clearly under the influence of her PRE-traumatic stress disorder.
The ongoing adventures of Semanticleo, March 5, 2006:
#41: Gee, Sherlock, what was the first clue? Semen has been certifiable for as long as I’ve been aware of it, and that’s at least 5 years.
#46 Joe:
And A2 isn’t usually that abrupt with a commenter, and she has had plenty of opportunities with plenty of trolls.
“Obama wants Germany to accept Guantanamo detainees. What could go wrong?”
Depends. Will Germany agree to lock those bastards up in Buchenwald & Auschwitz…make ’em wonder around all day reading Jewish commemorative plaques to murdered/ butchered loved ones, make them memorize the stone tablet memorials, and that kinda stuff?
If so, that’s the kind of fucking awesomeness I can get on board with.
What’s the word
ObamaTutankhamenPharaoh?Geez, Collins…..49 comments in what, 10 hours? No wonder you let me back in. Traffic must be killin’ good ol’ Goldbrick……
Semanticleo,
You should have the common decency to stir up another hotmail or yahoo address and log back in here as “Straightupsemantics” or “Nuance” or, if you’re feeling honest, “Fullashitlikeabackeduptoilet.”
I haven’t been around here for more than a couple years, but long enough to watch you slam Bush as evil (for the stupidest of reasons) and now try and perform multiple Triple Lindy’s (FAIL) trying to back up Egypt’s new sun god, Obama-Ra’s EXACT SAME AS BUSH Gitmo, wiretap, rendition, and military tribunal policies as straight up halal.
Let us know when you square that circle.
Unfortunately it is not just Semanticleo…
Wanna ask what is in a name…
How about when Newsweek says Obama is a god.
Good to see Newsweek is not in the bag for Obama. I need a drink.
Goldbrick……
So, not only are you clinically insane, but an anti Semite as well. Nice.
All war criminals must die…….
Incitement to murder, particularly of a former President, is a criminal offense. You might want to walk that one back.
Part of me agrees with Rob C in that you are not worth the effort. The other part of me agrees with JD in saying “Fuck Off.”
hey Big D! oh, were you the one that recommended Green Street Hooligans a while back? just wondering. we watched it a couple nights ago. not bad, but Elijah was just a little too pretty.
I need a drink.
I do as well. Scotch works wonders.
Semper Fi
Green Street Hooligans
Sorry, Maggie. Wasn’t me. Can’t say I’ve heard of it. If there’s a guy named Elijah in it and he’s too pretty, it doesn’t sound like my kind of movie. Now if it has some good splodey stuff….
“How about when Newsweek says Obama is a god.”
Newsweek has gone right out of their fucking tree. Their suicidal hyper-jump to the kook left pretty much equates the content any of their “new” issues to the Globe’s typical “An alien reptilian spaceman fathered my baby and pays child support in Quatloos” story.
The editors of Pravda in the 1980’s had more self respect than that.
“Incitement to murder, particularly of a former President, is a criminal offense.”
It’s not murder when the State executes a criminal. But it IS interesting that, although I did not mention Bush, your deductive reasoning filled that hole quite nicely. Frankly, I think Bush was a moronic dupe who was flim-flammed like many of us. So his reducto culpability might get him a reduced sentence.
Elijah Wood. There were a few people beaten to death. I wonder who it was… I’m too lazy to look. somebody fess up.
“Goldbrick……
So, not only are you clinically insane, but an anti Semite as well. Nice.”
Actually, the term has no racial component…it’s an expression which applies to those who live on the hard work of others (spouse),,,I also refer to our host as ‘Yellowstain’ from diaper changing to Cap’n Queeg, it’s applications seem endless….
So, going with JD (I think he had it right all along) it is… Fuck Off Cleo. And with that, into the troll bin you go.
Oh, forgot to say it earlier, Hi Maggie! Long time no see!
ja, you still traveling a lot?
Where’s Jeff?
…”but Elijah was just a little too pretty.”
LOVED Green Street Hooligans, but didn’t like the hobbit in the part either.
Anyway…
‘Ellloooo mate!”
A dirty socialist is appalled at those who live on the hard work of others. That’s the dumbest thing I read all week.
“A dirty socialist is appalled at those who live on the hard work of others”
As usual, sad clown, you miss the point. It’s about teh hypocrisy…..
Yeah well also I can’t do sudoku.
I just don’t see the point honestly.
it’s like brain exercise for people who hate crosswords. or something. RTO does tons of them.
ja, you still traveling a lot?
Quite a bit, but leaving PepsiCo was the best thing that I have done in quite a while.
Now, all of you should go out and buy a bottle of Big Red!
A dirty socialist is appalled at those who live on the hard work of others. That’s the dumbest thing I read all week.
Hint: Jeff didn’t get permission from Obama.
“As usual, sad clown, you miss the point. It’s about teh hypocrisy”…
Ok.
You, Chris Dodd & Barney Frank explain why I have to pay my mortgage (which through working hard I pay like clockwork) and shiftless, fuck up, no credit, no job, broke dick, losers don’t have to pay…ya know, on that $300k new house that Fannie & Freddie approved for ’em.
On second thought cleo, just go sit in the corner and put on that there pointy hat.
The one that says, “Dunce.”
“explain why I have to pay my mortgage (which through working hard I pay like clockwork) and shiftless, fuck up, no credit, no job, broke dick, losers don’t have to pay…”
You mean, like Morgan Stanley and Countrywide, the principle benefactors of Reaganomics and Supply-sidism? You know, the economic policy of the Republican Party? You know, the one which likes to put a blowtorch in the hands of a pyromaniac because it’s good for the insurance business?
You mean, like Morgan Stanley and Countrywide, the principle benefactors of Reaganomics and Supply-sidism? You know, the economic policy of the Republican Party? You know, the one which likes to put a blowtorch in the hands of a pyromaniac because it’s good for the insurance business?
And right there, in a few lines of text, you can see how this dumbass got elected. That is weapons grade stupid. Congratulations, Cleo. Your prize? A lifetime of servitude.
“Your prize? A lifetime of servitude.”
“It’s better to serve in Heaven, than rule in Hell”
Comment by Semanticleo on 6/5 @ 9:40 pm #
I thought I told you to fuck off. Why are you still here?
“Why are you still here?”
Because i can, you burnt weenie sandwich.
I guess it’s cause I don’t read enough things what are printed on paper as it is so any sudoku time would eat into that, if you follow.
Here is a feminist song by this socialist guy about how girls with big breasts should maybe stop acting like dirty dirty whores.
It’s kind of off-topic.
“You mean, like Morgan Stanley and Countrywide, the principle benefactors of Reaganomics and Supply-sidism?”
LMFAO.
Yup. Reganomics worked and got ’em where they were. Ya know, legit and profitable (miracle after Carter). It took 20 years and Democrat legislative blackmail by your whores Schumer, Dodd, Pelosi, & Frank too produce a gem named Franklin Raines who ran Freddie Mae (and sucked Obama’s dick live on CSPAN a year before the general election) who, in turn found another white collar crime lord wannabe named Angelo Mozilo at Countrywide to do his and your Congressional free market hating pimp’s business. Mozilo donated hundreds of thousands to Schumer, Dodd & Frank over the years through a PAC.
Don’t fuck with me cleo. You’ll be up way past your bed time.
Oh, I’m still bound by a boat load of clauses, but let me dish a bit on Pepsi. For example, did you know that Mountain Dew is flavored with hillbilly piss? You do now. How about Sierra Mist? Takes 100 spotted owls to make 10 cases. SoBe Lifewater? Two words. Crushed cockroaches. Remember Crystal Pepsi? Crystal Meth. Can’t believe that one didn’t catch on. Oh, and spill a Pepsi on metal and wait a few minutes an see what happens. Just sayin’
Oh, and Indra, if you’re reading, Fuck You. Changing the Pepsi globe to look like the Obama logo was fucking brilliant! Way to piss of half your customer base. Are you trying to tank the stock? Christ, I’m not the CEO and I’m pretty sure I could take it from 79 to 52 with very little effort. Those options you gave me? Make good kindling.
I’m not bitter, though!
Pepsi is gay. Gayer than ultravox? Yes. Perhaps. It’s very possible.
“You’ll be up way past your bed time.”
Let the Games begin….
Republicans had been trying to backpeddle Roosevelt since the 30’s and had finally got some traction in 1980 when the Electorate finally decided to give them another Nixonian chance to recoup their Dynastic Imperialism.
‘voodoo Econ’ hit the streets with much fanfare and the contemporary wisdom was ‘supply side’ economics was a good thing. “Businessmen will do the right thing if you just give them a chance’. It took 25 years for that bell to ring true and you have exhibit #1 in the Economic Meltdown of the 21st Century. Deregulation was a disaster. Corporations are basically sociopathic. Do I have to point out that sociopaths generally don’t behave unless they are carefully monitored? Yes, that free-market thing is OK, but the unbridled freedom does not automatically arrive with the 2nd component of successful freedom. That 2nd component is ‘responsibility’
Many people think freedom means they are free to do whatever the fuck they want, no matter whose toes get stepped on. Wrong. Freedom is anarchy without responsibility.
Time to try something else. But I don’t expect you one-percenters are going to go along happily. But you really don’t have a choice. The Juggernaut of History is on the march and you can’t stop it. You can’t even slow it down.
Because i can, you burnt weenie sandwich.
If you’re trying to move up from weapons grade stupid, you’re going to have to try harder than this.
oh. I forgot how much I actually liked them ultravox ones so yes Pepsi is definitely gayer.
Pepsi is gay.
They weren’t when I was there, but now…
HF, you’re a TX guy. Like Big Red?
I remember Big Red! Dad had a Big Red machine… the kind where you pulled a bottle out and then more sort of fell where that one was but somehow they didn’t break. He was very very big on the Dr. Pepper though and he explained me about the 10 2 and 4 or whatever and he had a Dr. Pepper clock so in case you forgot you could easily check. If you needed monies for the Big Red machine you just had to know that Dad just dumped all the change he’d get out of the machine into a Double Bubble container he kept sort of behind the machine underneath this other Double Bubble container what actually had Doubble Bubbles in it.
oh. *Dubble Bubbles* I mean … it’s very tricky how they spell it
Big D,
Per your post I have sworn off of all Pepsi shit, swearing only to buy it if I aim to shoot it up @ the ranch. More fun when the stuff you’re shooting at is carbonated and blows up and shit.
Except…I apparently enjoy hillbilly piss.
What? So I like Mountain Dew. Screw ya’ll.
Comment by Big D on 6/5 @ 8:56 pm #
I need a drink.
I do as well. Scotch works wonders.
Semper Fi
Scotch most definitely helps, but today it is a home brew ale.
Prune juice hasn’t kicked in yet ‘…youbigdummy’?
Semper fi
Back to the original article…
So what’s Dan gloating about? That the CIA told congress that they got people to talk by torturing them? I think everyone already knows that.
Also at 11 – CIA says that water is wet.
But torturing POWs and suspects is illegal, immoral, isn’t thought to produce reliable information, and works against our long term interests. I don’t think any of that changed today.
Bwhahahahahaha (snort)
Comment by Semanticleo on 6/5 @ 10:20 pm #
Go get your fuckin shine box.
I would like to give a shout out to one Mr. Jeff Goldstein and also say to him not to be thinking I haven’t noticed the postings not being there what he has written lately.
Because I have.
how about instead of “thinking” about it, you look at actual results. oh wait…
Back to the original article…
Back to the original point, you’re a lying sack of shit.
“If you’re trying to move up from weapons grade stupid’
What is it about Regressives that they think by merely stating something, it becomes a truism. Must be Bush envy. Use your words with some expertise and you don’t have to SAY someone is stupid, the story tells itself. Get it? Class dismissed,,,,,,,,,,,
Class dismissed,,,,,,,,,,,
Exactly, now go get your fuckin shine box.
“Exactly, now go get your fuckin shine box.”
Sweet surrender……
What is it about Regressives that they think by merely stating something, it becomes a truism.
You’re not even smart enough to know how effin’ hilarious that is.
“You’re not even smart enough to know how effin’ hilarious that is.”
And, of course, you don’t have the expertise to explain what point yer makin’…
“Freedom is anarchy without responsibility.”
King George III, Pharaoh Ramses, Nero, Napoleon, Stalin, Che, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein…
They would ALL have fucking loved your little quote, cleo.
As for the rest of your comment above, congrats.
You have mastered navel gazing on the shortest bus ever.
It’s fairly pointless, Semanticleo. They live in an alternate reality where one made-up fact becomes the foundation that supports other made up facts.
“You have mastered navel gazing on the shortest bus ever.”
I guess that prune juice is making you sleepy….
aaaaand… Trollhammered!
“It’s fairly pointless, Semanticleo.”
Conversion of the fallen angels is not my objective. I am just a Sentinel, Sammy.
Sweet surrender……
In some alternate universe, perhaps. You? Point and laugh.
This is me being as pretentious as Semanticleo.
oh.
FAIL.
is such a thing possible, hf?
“Point and laugh.”
Yer sentences gradually take on more brevity. As do yer arguments, if that’s not too complimentary.
They live in an alternate reality where one made-up fact becomes the foundation that supports other made up facts.
Projection much?
“I guess that prune juice is making you sleepy….”
Prune juice didn’t make me sleepy cleo, but it apparently did do the other thing. My kinda-sorta apologies for having shat wisdom all over you.
Wise latina hot sauced wisdom.
Spicy!
The ongoing serial adventures of Semanticleo:
Patterico, June 28, 2007
Gerald Ford, having decimated Cuba’s self-esteem, began decimating the Norte American eh-can’t-omy thru side salad-ism.
The result, predictable, if only after the fact. Salad bars keeping the brown people on one side and the bible thumpers on the other.
But, sure, you just keep living in your alternate reality, regressives.
Sematicleo & Sammy…
Can’t wait to see what these two Wonder Twin powers activate.
Form of…West Wing toilet paper!
Let us know if the One really shits Skittles, rainbows and fatwas.
I still don’t see the point of Dan’s original post, unless the right-wing circle-jerk needs some particle of news to condense around.
Sammy, I can cover this shift for you if you want to take a break.
Regressives, there is nothing to see here. As brother Sammy pointed out in #93, it’s not news that intel briefings are said to have revealed that TORTURE (the human kind, not the chicken abuse at KFC) yielded valuable information because we KNOW that TORTURE (the human kind, not football players stuffing me into a locker) never yields valuable information.
What color is the sky in your world, Reichicans? Blue, you say? Bwahahahahaha!
And, of course, you don’t have the expertise to explain what point yer makin’…
It really doesn’t require any expertise. You’re all cardboard cut-outs. Take the make up of progressives in general, reduce the pool to those with a compulsion to troll on blogs and you’re essentially left with a steady stream of moonbats without an original thought in their heads. Yes, we point and laugh. None of you are particularly stimulating.
I still don’t see the point of Dan’s original post
This is the only honest thing you have typed since you have been at this site.
“Salad bars keeping the brown people on one side and the bible thumpers on the other.”
Holy shit. What the hell restaurant have you been eating lunch in?
Provided you’re in the States, I’d suggest moving one salad and sam’ich joint over. I assure you, in this country – just like the thumpers- brown people get the good croutons and as much fucking blue cheese dressing as they want.
I’d suggest moving one salad and sam’ich joint over.
Oh, I’m sure you’d like to forcibly move me to a different restaurant (in reality world we call those reservations).
Just so you can re-enact the Trail of Tears at the local Sizzler. You, sir, are a monster.
@123: Hi thor.
Yawn.
Bye thor.
I don’t think that was thor. No homoeroticism in the comment. Plus, no mis-spelling of republican. I could be mistaken though.
ohnoes. Controversy. Actually I think it’s a lot brilliant cause for real I think Barack Obama would a lot love for his hoochie to get beat on.
Sudden appearance of trolls. Hmmm, speech hasn’t played very well with the public it appears. They’re going to be busier next week, too.
It took 25 years for that bell to ring true and you have exhibit #1 in the Economic Meltdown of the 21st Century. Deregulation was a disaster. Corporations are basically sociopathic. Do I have to point out that sociopaths generally don’t behave unless they are carefully monitored? Yes, that free-market thing is OK, but the unbridled freedom does not automatically arrive with the 2nd component of successful freedom. That 2nd component is ‘responsibility’
This is just so incredibly stupid, it’s hard to know where to begin. ‘Cleo, your entire premise collapses under the weight of examination. The real estate bubble – the entire genesis of the current crisis – wasn’t a failure of deregulation, it was policy, first and foremost under Clinton, then continued under Bush. No one regulated what was going on because what was going on was what they wanted to go on. From mandated lowering of lending standards to special cap gains exemptions for house-flipping, the entire focus of federal housing policy was aimed at expanding ownership through any means necessary.
This isn’t laissez-faire capitalism any more than is the crushing regulation you pint-size totalitarians are thumping the tub for now.
I could be wrong, but I’d be willing to bet that “troll #184” is making fun of the trolls.
“Side salad-ism”?
I like those seaweed salad thingers you get at sushi sometimes. I think they have like toasted sesame seed thrown in usually. Very tasty. Also they do really groovy things with cucumbers.
Barak strode into the room and took command. All ears were atuned. He played to not only the room, but indeed, the entire world. His pecs straining to escape the superbly tailored suit…..Crap, I’ve done it again. I need to change my underthings. I’ll be back….
“I don’t think that was thor.”
I’d recognize that awful writing anywhere. Almost as bad as Soto-ma-YOR’s.
Plus when he shows up there’s a stench through my laptop screen which, if I had to guess, smells something like Rosanne Barr’s douchewater mixed with a dead body and a two week old halibut.
Yeah, at hour 2 of stress position, you make BS up hoping they’ll fall for it. At hour 5 you tell the truth. At hour 6, you swear it was the truth. At hour 10, you start making shit up again, hoping they’ll hear something they like. By hour 35, I can’t really comprehend what one would be saying to make it stop.
Then, the made up shit ends up in a speech that Colin Powell gives to the United Nations.
Oh for fucks sake Peggy. Get control of yourself. I am sick and fucking tired of this shit happening. Ever hear of depends? Beeyatch
Sammy have yourself sterilized. Its on the house.
Yeah, at hour 2 of stress position, you make BS up hoping they’ll fall for it. At hour 5 you tell the truth. At hour 6, you swear it was the truth. At hour 10, you start making shit up again, hoping they’ll hear something they like. By hour 35, I can’t really comprehend what one would be saying to make it stop.
You’re not really even trying now, are you? Or are you really this stupid?
I thought cleo was bad, but this is breathtaking in its absurdity.
Why are you fighting with me, brother Sammy? We’re on the same team. I’m in full agreement that TORTURE never works and we must studiously avoid all news stories that say otherwise.
Come, join the drum circle and we shall sing Gaia’s praise together while listening to world music.
Sammy is a big liar person. For one thing he doesn’t actually know anything about for real interrogation. Nothing. The other thing is he doesn’t give a shit if terrorists get tortured. He likes for them to get tortured actually and super graphically because he thinks it makes for something compelling to whine about. This means two things. A.) Sammy has been listening to way way too much NPR and also B.) Sammy doesn’t talk to for real people about the torturings of terrorists because for real people don’t give a shit about tortured terrorists. Not even other terrorists give a shit about tortured terrorists. They really don’t. Unless maybe they’d been fucking them.
All you need to do is point your cursor on Big D and receive the truth.
Exactly, Big D. Sammy is just bluffin with his muffin I think.
“At hour 5″…
Uh, Sammy…you and your watch are busted.
Look on the bright side slick. Busted watch. You’ll be right about something or other at least twice a day.
Oh, and please try not to fuck that up and ruin an age-old analogy.
Be right about something twice a day. ANYTHING! Start slow. Try a “water is wet” kinda thing.
Go from there.
All you need to do is channel your inner JD and you’ll know what to do.
Could Sammy please report back to base for skills training, please. Thank you.
Everyone say it with me now: Fuck you Sammah!
Anyone seen Jeff lately? He should be here.
“Could Sammy please report back to base for skills training, please.”
What the hell for? As silly as Sammah! is, he sadly makes more sense than Pharaoh Obama-Ra (all Hail the new Egyptian Sun God, plus, ya know, PBUH and all that other muslim dickery shit).
I feel horrible that I missed this round of the neo-fascists road show. Cleo, still looking out for you to explain your credentials to me. Sammy, you are boring and pointless. Thor, how are you man? When are you going to come out of that socialist twat closet and join the real revolution?
I think #127 is on to something.
Sudden appearance of trolls. Hmmm, speech hasn’t played very well with the public it appears. They’re going to be busier next week, too.
Indeed.
The only solution to moonbats is a hunting season. We’ll get there.
You see ‘feets, to the profoundly retarded two people entering into a mutually acceptable contractual agreement is exactly the same as the government forcibly redistributing your wealth to the nonproductive.
So to be for one and against the other is hypocritical. If you are a blithering idiot.
We are finally getting a progressive to come right out and admit they hate freedom, congratulations folks.
In the B-movies you watch, that is what happens. In the real world, after a couple hours of the mean men making you uncomfortable a nice man comes in and makes them stop. Gives you a snack and drink and chats you up. Rinse and repeat for a couple days and you will start confiding in the nice man because he understands you. He is your friend.
Good cop, bad cop, Sammy. That is how it works in the real world. But the key is, there has to be a bad cop.
“Freedom is anarchy without responsibility.”
Scratch a leftist, find the fascist gibbering underneath.
Sammah! Sammah? sammah. He does love him some humiliation.
Ona completely different and OT tack;
The FBI has arrested a husband and wife team who had been spying for Cuba for the last 30 years. The husband worked for the State Department and apperently his wife would pass the documents. They just LOVE Cuba!
Sammy is just bluffin with his muffin I think.
By his 35th comment, I can’t really comprehend what one would be saying to make it stop.
Yet another moronic convergence between Sammah and Miss KKKleo.
Those were fuckings lies and you are fucking liars.
I can’t really comprehend what one would be saying to make it stop
This works pretty well, if I do say so myself.
The rapture of the nuance, it oozes like pus, from every comment.
And sometimes the good cop/bad cop thing works and gets real actionable intelligence, and sometimes made up shit makes it into speeches to the UN:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/torture/etc/faqs.html
Attack on messenger detected and inbound…
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We will not attack you, Sammy. We will just note that you are a liar and crazier than a shithouse rat, as demonstrated above with the moronic convergence you and Miss KKKleo enjoyed.
What you copied and pasted in no way refutes that in the specific instances under discussion, these techniques yielded information that helped save lives. Period. Full stop.
But, back to the actual topic, the irony is positively rich in that the Dems are complaining about leaks, especially given the fact that this was no leak.
Maybe it did, maybe it didn’t, and maybe that information would have been obtained without resorting to torture.
None of that changes the fact that torture is illegal and immoral.
PBS != truth.
Attack on messenger: confirmed.
JD, complaining about non-existent leaks on the day that House Democrat moves to pull the Lieberman/Graham legislation forbidding release of the Abu Ghraib photos, which had passed the Senate by unanimous consent and had the backing of the Obama administration as well. It appears the House Democrats just won’t be satisfied until some American somewhere is killed in an insane act of outraged revenge for the misdeeds of Chas. Grainer and Co.
Your ignorance is really getting tiresome, Sammy. EIT has nothing to do with intense pain. No one here is advocating or defending intense pain. Discomfort is not the same as pain.
The rest of your point is sophomoric to the point of humor. Are you seriously advocating that only perfect interrogation methods are acceptable?
Seriously?
I’ve got an idea, let’s define treason down as low as these fuckers have defined torture, then line their asses up on the Capitol steps and shoot the sonuvabitches.
Ah Sammy protein wisdom’s own “Post Turtle”.
“None of that changes the fact that torture is illegal and immoral.”
Agreed. What we did was not torture.
#166
No. The fact that you believe everything you see on the TV is kinda funny. Michael Moore makes documentaries. No! Really!
Sammy still doesn’t have a clue what is and what isn’t torture, and now shows the world he has no clue about interrogation and how it is done either. Michael Ratner, great source there. Quite level headed, indeed.
The fact that you believe everything you see on the TV is kinda funny.
Sambot is a gullible little fuckstick, isn’t he?
I also like the way that he considers Wikipedia a credible source on politically controversial topics.
I gave up on him several days ago. He’s basically a cultist — you might as well try to argue with a Scientologist.
Sammy KO of SBP: confirmed
torture is illegal and immoral
And fattening.
Nice little friend you got there, Sammy.
“Sammy still doesn’t have a clue what is and what isn’t torture,”
I have to give WingNut nation credit for one thing…persistence. They lack any viable skills or principles that support that quality and give it some gravity, they seems satisfied with persistence as an end in itself.
SERE training certainly included the legal requirement that the WB subject be given the assurance there is no death threat from the procedure because it is well known that if the subject THINKS he might die, then it’s torture, the same way mock execution and forced Russian Roulette is regarded. But here’s the catch……………………..
By what measure of CERTAINTY do y’all guarantee that the DISCLAIMER (no death) was given? BTW; that’s a rhetorical question, because we all know the answer……….therefore WB IS TORTURE………………
Care to expound on that? Because it seems to be a fairly unworkable definition to me.
“Because it seems to be a fairly unworkable definition to me.”
And..that’s surprising to whom?
Straw thrown into the wind. Tons and tons of it.
“Straw thrown into the wind. Tons and tons of it.”
And not a gram’s worth of response…………..
I confess, ‘tic !
I did shoot Lincoln !!!
So if we round up terrorist suspects in Afghanistan, and load them into a truck to take them back to a detention facility, and they think they might die there, we are guilty of terrorism?
Oh for fuck’s sake.
It’s been at least six months since KKKleo admitted he wanted the reinstatement of slavery — and yet you people try to argue points with the sub-human anyway. It’s just not worth the time and effort; it lusts to hold the whip like a junky lusts for their next hit.
Again, would you expect arguments in good faith, adherence to the truth, and an openness to other views from a Stormfronter? No? Then why do you act like you’ll get it from a fucking left cult fascist?!
Those people don’t come around here to debate; they come here to count coup. They come here to shut us up, to get us so pissed off we switch off and stop even talking to each other.
The whole “spout shit until you get banned, then brag about being banned” game is straight out of Alinsky. So stop playing the game. Yes, we all value free speech. But there’s nothing within the ideal of free speech that requires people to subsidize other peoples’ speech, and morality makes it clear we’re under no obligation to subsidize speech that’s, frankly, intent on silencing us under a deluge of abuse.
Trollhammer them. Delete the fuckers’ comments. Edit them in place. Just don’t waste your time treating them as if they’re interested in an exchange of ideas.
And you keep chasing it, apparently thinking this time it’ll be different.
“I did shoot Lincoln !!!”
Careful. There have already been more nuts threatening the New Lincoln in his first months than Bush had for 8 years. I would tread lightly unless you want to inspire more WingNuts creating IED’s.
“Yes, we all value free speech”
Fucking liar !
Not merely titanic, it’s Moron’tic !!!
Hell, if we just point a gun at someone and order them to come with us, that is torture for ‘cleo.
Since there are likely people who think I’m overreacting, keep in mind these are people who would see Bush administration lawyers thrown in prison for writing legal opinions, but either carefully avoid or actually defend the DOJ abandoning a case they had won against people threatening violence at polling places. They spent eight years decrying the “Bush crime family” yet support a party that aides and abets the corruption of Murtha and company.
Free people should not tolerate the presence of those who would enslave them.
Unless ‘cleo’s holding the gun. Then it’s his dream world.
“Since there are likely people who think I’m overreacting”
Ya think so Squash? Can’t imagine yer overreacting when you support yer overreaction with such superb ideas…………..
Fuck you, Miss KKKleo. You are a racist lying sophist.
Careful. There have already been more nuts threatening the New Lincoln in his first months than Bush had for 8 years. I would tread lightly unless you want to inspire more WingNuts creating IED’s.
My fantasies run along the lines of taking out idiots who compare/equate teh One with Lincoln …
Comment by Semanticleo on 6/6 @ 11:00 am #
Do you speak English?
“My fantasies run along the lines of taking out idiots who compare/equate teh One with Lincoln”
Many historical parallels and synchronicities you wouldn’t want to understand…………
I repeat:
Free people should not tolerate the presence of those who would enslave them.
“Free people should not tolerate the presence of those who would enslave them.”
We heard you. Once is enough.
HEY DICKHEAD! Over here!
If we round up terrorist suspects in Afghanistan, and load them into a truck to take them back to a detention facility, and they think they might die there, we are guilty of terrorism? Are we guilty of torture by coercing them at the point of a gun?
“My fantasies run along the lines of taking out idiots who compare/equate teh One with Lincolnâ€
Many historical parallels and synchronicities you wouldn’t want to understand…………
Sorry, Comparing Teh One to Lincoln is nothing but embarrassing and a huge insult to the intelligence of whomever you are talking to.
“There are none so blind as those who refuse to see”
“Free people should not tolerate the presence of those who would enslave them.â€
“a huge insult to the intelligence of whomever you are talking to.”
You mean the trollops here????? It seems so unlikely…………..
But, I’ll give you this. They were/are both tall.
Man, it’s UNCANNY.
What I don’t understand, is if freedom is such a bullshit notion, why would Lincoln be a hero for freeing the slaves?
You can answer that one after you answer #200, ‘cleo.
“What I don’t understand, is if freedom is such a bullshit notion, why would Lincoln be a hero for freeing the slaves?”
I guess yer about where I was this time in 2003, when I suddenly REALIZED
we’d been had, although for very different reasons. So I can empathize with yer increasingly angry outbursts. Sorry for yer discomfort.
“There are none so blind as those who refuse to speak English.â€
I am not making this up, but in different blogcomments, someone compared Obama to Nixon. Because they’re both ruthless, or something.
B Moe — no modern leftist can actually be a fan of Lincoln’s:
Is there any question that the modern Democrats fall into the category of those who would “do as they please with other men, and the product of other men’s labor”?
I am not making this up, but in different blogcomments, someone compared Obama to Nixon.
Both lawyers who denied being crooks?
Let’s see … how many significant differences are there between the two men?
I’ll start us off.
1) Lincoln wrote his own speeches.
Price controls?
Unlawful abuse of power?
Lincoln worked for a living and he never hit a three pointer.
2) Lincoln’s poety is better than Obama’s.
poetry
Sammy KO of SBP: confirmed
Whore’s latest sockpuppet TrollHammered: confirmed.
Trollhammer is my friend…………..
5) Lincoln had almost no formal education, and was mostly self-educated. Obama went to an elite prep school.
I’ve pointed out before that there’s some black humor in imagining what will happen to the lefty trolls, should the slave state they masturbate over come to pass.
Here’s a hint, boys and girls: “useless eaters” and faux intellectuals don’t generally fare well under such a government.
4) Lincoln freed black people.
7) Lincoln could count
Wait, that was a difference between me and Lincoln.
“boys and girls: “useless eaters†and faux intellectuals don’t generally fare well under such a government.”
You guys really don’t have any concept of subtlety in yer ideas and that’s a huge part of why you are out of time and luck. Scare mongering has a limited effect (see ‘the Boy Who Cried Wolf’) and you simply relied too much on it, even to this day. It’s all you’ve got in yer arsenal and it is poor ordinance.
n) Lincoln had worked in real jobs.
What’s with all the “yers” all of a sudden? Is folksy suddenly hip?
m) Lincoln believed in Western Civilization and the Constitution of the United States.
p) Lincoln wasn’t a communist.
Ã¥ Lincoln was humble and ware he was merely human.
“What’s with all the “yers†all of a sudden”
It’s an identity tag. I have so many admirers who seek to purloin my moniker with the intention of misrepresenting me, I use them in specific ways to trip up the really trashy trollops…..
Lincoln didn’t pal around with terrorists.
The compare/contrast musings are quite revealing, more so than you intend, I believe…
oh. you can’t plant me in your penthouse Mr. Semanticleo I’m gong back to my plow I think. You stay classy.
Lincoln’s wife didn’t wear $500 shoes to “work” in the garden.
“Lincoln didn’t pal around with terrorists.”
So Reagan and Obama have something in common?
oh. *going* I meant. But I missed a letter. This was a very very very long week. It was also an almost Jeffless week I noticed. Next week will be better I know it.
Lincoln did everything he could to preserve the Union.
Lincoln was a real lawyer.
Lincoln saved the Union.
Obama saved the Union.
Lincoln could give a speech without a TelePrompter.
Lincoln had an IQ above room temperature.
Lincoln looked good in a hat.
Ï€ Everyone knew Lincoln’s wife was nuts.
Though widely criticized for his crude frontier manners, Lincoln knew better than to appear in public without a shirt.
M’chelle so far is sort of useless is how she’s seemed. Sort of mostly an accessory hoochie for tabloid tv to do stupid stories about. When I go to Ralph’s and I see M’chelle on a magazine at the checkout I say omg .. look … M’chelle. She is so pretty and the dumbass low information studio city voter nearby says yes she really is. Then I say oh I was just kidding.
Lincoln has a robot made after him at Disney.
Lincoln had too much class to give a foreign dignitary a collection of his own speeches as a “gift”.
“Then I say oh I was just kidding.”
That’s a pretty velvet glove you wear on yer clenched iron fist, sad clown.
Oh. Just kidding…..
Lincoln said things like:
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
and:
Don’t interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties.
and:
Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another, but let him work diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built.
Lincoln didn’t flip Douglas the bird during their debates.
So you can always tell whether a comment was really you or not. Clever.
How come you don’t want to talk about torture, any more? You shouldn’t complain about nobody responding if you really don’t want to defend your position.
“So you can always tell whether a comment was really you or not”
It’s not for my consumption, but you won’t get the code, not being ‘clever’.
Also:
Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power.
and:
No man is good enough to govern another man without that other’s consent.
and:
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.
and:
You cannot build character and courage by taking away a man’s initiative and independence.
and:
You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves.
and:
Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.
“How come you don’t want to talk about torture”
Nobody seems to understand the prohibition against using the threat of ‘death’ based on SERE training. What’s to discuss? You obviously led the charge of willful ignorance with yer pathetic ‘illustration’..so go fish.
When you point a gun at someone, are you threatening them with death?
Why does this not qualify as torture under your definition?
If these questions are so simple, why can’t you answer them?
$500? you wish. (a few weeks ago at Carin’s I left a link to Jimmy Choo’s site that showed they retailed for something like $1100, but they’ve updated the site and the page is gone)
The racist sophist that calls itself Seman-liKKKer is a fucking liar.
“Andy McCarthy in a telephone conference today:
“As far as mental suffering is concerned that involves the creation on the part of the person the tactic is used on of a fear of imminent death,†said McCarthy. “The few people that waterboarding was actually used on were actually told that they were not going to be killed by the tactic.â€
“Even if they didn’t tell you they weren’t going to kill you, after the first or second time you sort of get the point that there is not imminent death to be feared,†he said. “There’s not a prosecutable case.â€
This statement was in reference to the fact that the relevant US criminal torture statute requires that an act be specifically intended to inflict “severe physical or mental pain or suffering.â€
Not surprisingly, I have a lot of problems with McCarthy’s statements. But the biggest problem is that he totally misses the point of the very memos he purports to defend.
First and foremost, even if the only relevant standard for an infliction of “severe mental pain or suffering†is the creation of a “fear of imminent death†– even though the statute sets forth three other grounds for finding “severe mental pain or suffering – the Bybee memo explicitly states that “we find that the use of the waterboard constitutes a threat of imminent death.†(Bybee memo, page 15). ”
http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/Tags/sere/
So what, if someone joins the Semanticleo Fan Club they get an Official Yer Decoder Ring so they can spot the real you?
LMFAO!
That’s enough Elementary School for today.
that’s about to be a similarity.
“if someone joins the Semanticleo Fan Club they get an Official Yer Decoder Ring so they can spot the real you?”
All that buried anger is going to eat you and HF up. I recommend anger management for good health and long life.
I’ll be the judge of that, young man.
Anger? Dude that is the hardest I’ve laughed in a week.
God you are an idiot.
See what I mean? Another fanclub member…………
Lincoln didn’t bow down to kings.
“Lincoln didn’t bow down to kings.”…or hold their hands and kiss their cheek. So, what? Obama is like Bush, now?
Only more so, it would seem.
BMoe. You and HF don’t even KNOW yer angry. That’s the dangerous part….
Not as dangerous as not knowing you are stupid.
BMoe. When anger is yer only argument, scare-mongering is yer only tactic.
Damn straight I’m dangerous.
I am laughing too hard to type any more.
Brb.
“Damn straight I’m dangerous.”
Well, I was kind of referring to the threat to yer personal well-being and physical health, but you roll with whatever gets ya through the day.
“I am laughing too hard to type any more.”
Laughter, generally doesn’t include the clenching and gnashing of teeth.
Rob,
No, I never think that I or anyone else can change their minds. However if their stupidity is allowed to stand and not called out, at least on occasion, then someone new may come to think that the trolls comments are considered to be right and believable.
“However if their stupidity is allowed to stand and not called out, at least on occasion, then someone new may come to think that the trolls comments are considered to be right and believable.”
BINGO !! Give that boy a bubble-gum seegar !!
Slartibartfast,
I said on a previous thread that Obama was now recycling bad ideas from Republican Presidents, namely Nixon’s wage controls and asked if he would go all the way and do price controls also.
uncensored love missile.
That’s very dangerous too I think.
God help us if he does geoffb,
Economically, that was disastrous! Remember WIN, Whip Inflation Now..?
The only thing that ultimately worked was raising interest rates; and volker had to jack them up to a level that made your nose bleed sporadically to finally get it under control…
Anyone remember double digit mortgage rates..? I’m dating myself most assuradly, but I do…
I hope everyone has taken the recent dip as an opportunity to refinance if necessary/possible; ‘cuz within 18 months the rates will be headed towards the double digits again, in my humble opinion…
Unless, of course, you belong to the proper “victimhood” group…
So those comments should be deleted. Jeff is neither morally nor legally required to publish ideas he does not wish to.
Beyond that, anyone who can be swayed by the idiocies spouted by KKKleo, whor, and Sammie would likely never be swayed otherwise. Their spewings are only believable to those who want to believe.
happyfeet,
That video is pretty wild! Where do you come up with this stuff..?
Have you actually seen all these prior, or are you using some google-fu..?
Actually I think cleo would like to take each and every one of you and beat you to death with a shovel.
I’ve been helping New Girl learn about the 80s. She’s making a summer project of it.
“Comment by SBP on 6/6 @ 11:52 am #
I’ve pointed out before that there’s some black humor in imagining what will happen to the lefty trolls, should the slave state they masturbate over come to pass.
Here’s a hint, boys and girls: “useless eaters†and faux intellectuals don’t generally fare well under such a government.”
Yeah, and seman would be one of the first fauxs taked down to the cellar and shot in the back of the neck.
Viva la Revolution!
“Lincoln saved the Union.
Obama paid off the Unions.”
TFTFY
Seems like people keep wanting to fix a pair of statements that I think perfectly apposite as put.
happyfeet, you’ll be glad to know that I just watched “Happy Feet” with my grandaughter.
“Their spewings are only believable to those who want to believe.”
So then, what’s the problema?
‘Actually I think cleo would like to take each and every one of you and beat you to death with a shovel.”
Actually, the keyboard is mightier than the shovel….
He could never figure out how to work a shovel, he votes for people to do these things for him.
oh. Did you like? I’ve never seen it. My brother told me he had to undo some ecopropaganda in the car on the way home what got in his kids’ heads from watching it.
Actually, the keyboard is mightier than the shovel….
Yes, I see your work at attempting to replace the truth with believable lies continues.
It was fun.
She was laughing at the caroon characters on the screen, and I was laughing at the cartoon characters on this thresd.
“he votes for people to do these things for him.”
As opposed to BMoe who’s favorite tool is the shovel for burying his head into the hastily dug escape hatches of inconvenient arguments.
Dude you are the one hiding in the foxhole. Answer my questions.
“Yes, I see your work at attempting to replace the truth with believable lies continues.”
I was referring to the regular ass-kicking y’all receive courtesy Semanticleo.
296 didn’t have a yer in it! I think its a trick!
“Answer my questions.”
I’ve already dismissed the Elementary Class you flunked…..
I was referring to the regular ass-kicking y’all receive courtesy Semanticleo.
That lie is less believable.
You got nothing fool.
But, if you take a make-up test after reviewing the thread, I may let you stay after school and clean the chalkboard.
“You got nothing fool.”
With that attitude, I expect you failed a lot of classes. Are you a high school graduate?
“That lie is less believable.”
Thanks for the vote of confidence, Kakake
Now. I don’t want you to go away angry, BMoe. Take one more shot at me, and i’ll let you have the last word…..
Semanticleo,
You are the master of the shovel; you’ve proven it shoveling the shinola you try to pass off as opinion, reason, and argument here…
That, and the pitchfork you use to construct strawmen, and then knock them down…
bobby orr!
Semanticleo, after review of this thread you’ve been downgraded from Sentinel. Your official status is now Babbler. Yer pay shall be docked one package of herbal tea a week.
Troll #184 has been upgraded to Sentinel and is hereby assigned your pw detail.
Sweet, a promotion! I’m going to run upstairs and tell Mom right now!
Yes. I know how to answer a simple question.
No more shots, if you won’t answer my questions I will just leave you with a bit of advice, take a lesson from your pal AJB, he dumps his steaming piles and then runs, rather than stick around to get his nose rubbed in it like you.
‘Cleo, you bring nothing. I’m not even sure whether you know how. Either come with information or you’re through in my posts.
. “Either come with information or you’re through in my posts.”
Does that apply to everyone, ’cause I don’t see much from yer locals.
They don’t add anything to the traffic except declination, but they do tell you how great thou art, so there’s that…………
“rather than stick around to get his nose rubbed in it like you.”
I take it you imagine your the rubber?
‘Cleo,
The only fellating and water carrying around here is you and your fellow ideologues…
Fellating the O!ne, and carrying water for all of his ever changing positions…
We are all tiring of the provacateur schtick…
An ellipsis? Three periods. Your? Possessive, not “you are”. See, it’s fifth grade skills like that what helped earn my promotion.
WingNut Nation; where the Grammarian stands in place of genuine argument.
You heard Axelrod, Semanticleo. Beat it, this is my turf now.
Bushitler. Obama is a god or Lincoln. The CIA is responsible Air America’s terrible ratings.
“The CIA is responsible Air America’s terrible ratings.”
Huh? You are summarily de-frocked…..
Are you fucking kidding me? You wouldn’t know a genuine argument if Obama wrapped his dick in one.
You have no valid argument at all. You have no evidence. You merely assert. I don’t think you are capable of recognizing a valid argument when it’s reaming you up the ass. That last comment was par for the course. You just crap all over, and think you’re doing mankind a favor.
Take your time. Use the comment space to write a cogent post with supporting evidence. I’ll be back in two hours to take a look, and if it isn’t halfway decent, you’re gone.
“You wouldn’t know a genuine argument if Obama wrapped his dick in one.”
Oh!. I know! I know!…..because BMoe said it!!!!!! I see WingNut Nations ideo of facts. It’s what they say it is….idjit.
Two hours. TTFN.
“I’ll be back in two hours to take a look, and if it isn’t halfway decent, you’re gone.”
Why wait? Oh, I know. It’s the Academic who wishes to appear fair and broad-minded.
I want you to show that you’re able to do at all, in the least, what you routinely crap all over. Good luck.
C’mon, Collins. Ban me now, ’cause I’ll be back.
Semen, the only thing genuine about you is your ignorance.
Oh, and Rob, Jeff has already said that he doesn’t have time to monitor and delete these people’s posts. I’d volunteer for the job.
B Moe didn’t just say it, B Moe presented an argument, it goes like this:
Why is waterboarding considered a death threat but the weapons the interogators used to apprehend and hold the suspect is not? To further clarify:
My argument is that by your definition a loaded weapon pointed at a captives head is torture. You refuse to respond, and then accuse me of arguing by assertion.
You are a fool, an inept fucking tool who has no ability at all to think on his own, and apparently a very limited ability to parrot talking points, and not enough self awareness to realize you are making a fool of yourself in a public forum.
I am tired of arguments (like this thread) which I support (‘imminent death’) with facts, and when your compatriots recognize their factual dilemma, run and hide behind ad homs and deflection..(see BMoe) You people don’t want cogent arguments unless they feather yer nest. So go fish, Collins.
You’re really not proving anything, ‘cleo. This is your opportunity to shine.
Very well, ‘tic.
If you don’t care about embarrassing yourself, Semanticleo, then at least think about the larger troll community.
People already have a pretty low opinion of us.
zomg?
Yes.
zomg zomg, even. With exclamation marks maybe.
Where’s Carin?
Gee, that’s almost a crazy a show of balance as the journalist woman in this story puts on.
oh. I read Joanie de Rijke’s book My Life as a Taliban Cumdump and was excited to learn that NBC Universal has teh movie rights cause Jeff Immelt is also a big fan.
Comment by Semanticleo on 6/6 @ 2:36 pm #
C’mon, Collins. Ban me now, ’cause I’ll be back.”
A self admitted bandwidth thief.
A free-lance socialist.
Why won’t you ever answer my question, seman?
Do you speak English?
Because it is one thing to be a whore, it’s another to be a cheap whore.
Put the pike down and step away from the moonbat, Mr. Collins.
Slowly.
Nevermind, he’s already in the drink.
On your way, then.
Cleo. The only thing you’ve ever done her is assert your opinion as fact.
Duck Libs. Brave Sir Dan has brought out his +1 Dingbat of Banning.
I picture him puffing a cigar and pointing a stubby finger as he says, “Ya got 2 hours punk. 2 hours. Then it’s buckwheats for ya.”
You’re silly.
# ^ White, Josh (November 8, 2007). “Waterboarding Is Torture, Says Ex-Navy Instructor”. The Washington Post. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/08/AR2007110802150.html. Retrieved on December 17, 2007.
# ^ a b c d “Open Letter to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales”. Human Rights Watch. April 5, 2006. http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2006/04/05/open-letter-attorney-general-alberto-gonzales. Retrieved on April 17, 2009.
# ^ a b Davis, Benjamin (October 8, 2007). “Endgame on Torture: Time to Call the Bluff”. JURIST. http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/forumy/2007/10/endgame-on-torture-time-to-call-bluff.php. Retrieved on December 18, 2007.
# ^ a b c “French Journalist Henri Alleg Describes His Torture Being Waterboarded by French Forces During Algerian War”. Democracy Now!. November 5, 2007. http://www.democracynow.org/2007/11/5/french_journalist_henri_alleg_describes_his. Retrieved on December 18, 2007.
# ^ a b McCain, John (November 21, 2005). “Torture’s Terrible Toll”. Newsweek. http://www.newsweek.com/id/51200. Retrieved on April 17, 2009.
# ^ a b c Mayer, Jane (February 14, 2005). “Outsourcing Torture”. The New Yorker. http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/02/14/050214fa_fact6. Retrieved on April 17, 2009.
# ^ a b International Rehabilitation Council for Torture Victims (February 12, 2008). Former member of UN Committee Against Torture: ‘Yes, waterboarding is torture’. Press release. http://www.irct.org/Default.aspx?ID=3558&M=News&NewsID=1236. Retrieved on April 21, 2009.
# ^ a b Grey, Stephen (2006). Ghost plane: the true story of the CIA torture program. New York City: St. Martin’s Press. p. 226. ISBN 0-312-36023-1. OCLC 70335397. “As one former CIA official, once a senior official for the directorate of operations, told me: ‘Of course it was torture. Try it and you’ll see.’ Another, also a former higher-up in the directorate of operations, told me: ‘Yes, it’s torture…'”
# ^ a b Bell, Nicole (November 2, 2007). “Retired JAGs Send Letter To Leahy: ‘Waterboarding is inhumane, it is torture, and it is illegal.'”. Crooks and Liars. http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/11/03/retired-jags-send-letter-to-leahy-waterboarding-is-inhumane-it-is-torture-and-it-is-illegal/. Retrieved on 17 April 2009.
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# ^ a b Amnesty International (October 26, 2006). Amnesty International Response to Cheney’s ‘No-Brainer’ Comment. Press release. http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?lang=e&id=ENGUSA20061026002. Retrieved on April 17, 2009.
# ^ Shane, Scott (November 7, 2007). “A Firsthand Experience Before Decision on Torture”. The New York Times. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/07/us/07waterboard.html. Retrieved on April 17, 2009.
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# ^ “History of an Interrogation Technique: Water Boarding”. World News with Charles Gibson (ABC News). November 29, 2005. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=1356870. Retrieved on April 17, 2009.
sammy what size paintyhose do you wear?
Careful, newrouter, unless you can supply a link, Dan will ban you.
Right on, brother Sammy! Stealing from Wikipedia without attribution! Classic!
These rethuglicans don’t realize that if Wikipedia says it, it is true.
Happy, I see that your link is to an exercise ball thing- so I’m afraid to click.
Next, Sammy should quote another serious authority. Like Jeanine Graflagogo.
Hey, if you see an error on the wikipedia entry, just correct it.
Maybe you rethuglicans don’t realize this but we trolls are allowed to steal from Wikipedia articles without attribution. Your bourgeois rules don’t apply to us.
It’s scarier than sexercising I think.
this coming from the side that thinks raping women that you disagree with is ok
I’d rather neither of them existed.
C’mon, newrouter. Lots of libs were offended and said so. Tommy Christopher lost his job over it.
I just want to see some expression of cogent analysis with supporting sources.
AOl thought the raping of the womens was right and proper. Especially noted AOL rape afficionado Melinda Henneberger.
“Hey, if you see an error on the wikipedia entry, just correct it.”
Right here:
“Waterboarding is a form of torture…”
So what do I win?
By his 35th comment, I can’t really comprehend what one would be saying to make it stop.
This helps:
If there were a tag team World Retard Championship I think we would be facing the winners right here.
Fuck it, I am going to have a go at old Sammy. To determine if waterboarding really is torture, Sammy, we have to define torture and point out specifically how waterboarding fits the definition. Semanticleo said this:
I responded with this:
And ‘cleo went into duck and cover mode and refused to answer. What is your opinion?
Stop using your racist Western-centric logic and rationality to distract from Hurricane Katrina.
Hell, even Thirsty figured that one out, though he also fooled Little Miss Attila into thinking him an intellectually honest liberal.
Semanticleo is God.
And God Cleo came to PW with no affable gratitude. He came to bust eye-sockets with cruel thundery words, to leave ineradicable scars, to tear dogged meat meat from bone, and to watch the wingered flex their butt muscles in reflexive fear of the coming painful clog. Wince and flex ye and continue that howl of house cats suffering from knife wounds to the gut.
Slow down, thor. I need to take notes if I’m to improve. So, start with crazy, continue with crazy, then end with crazy?
Thanks, I think I have it now.
The CIA hires men in blue shorts to litter in my mailbox. And I think the paperboy is in on it too.
Galactic, Live from Jazzfest 2007, song is titled FEMA, or Freddy Hubbard’s new release on Blue Note, Live in England.
Mad funking sounds driven drunk, for you nozzle-Newts made too white and strunk.
Okay, so I should try and work in an Elements of Style reference whenever possible. Check.
How about spelling Baudelaire as Bawdy Lair and mentioning how I talked my French maid into forbidden nostril penetration?
“This woman’s name is Prostitution.”
Work Ducasse, if you want to really impress someone.
Weaker, stronger.
Ducasse is a simple cook, no more. Michelin is a tire.
“Sick people smell of piss.”
Celine
Hello, my love
I heard a kiss from you
Red magic satin playing near, too
“We’ve no use for intellectuals in this outfit. What we need is chimpanzees.”
Celine
“Did Jesus Christ go to the toilet in front of everybody? It seems to me his racket wouldn’t have lasted very long if he had taken a shit in public. Very little presence, that’s the trick…”
Celine
Thor, speak on Celine then, teach a class in the comments. Why wallow in politics if you find it to be low?
So go edit the Wikipedia page.
Other than the Bybee memo, what meaningful sources can you point to that have ever described waterboarding as anything other than torture?
Thor, admit it, you find Sammy and Semanticleo as worthless as I find newrouter.
Let us come together in the casting out of the weak and feeble.
So Sammy only knows what he reads. He can’t think on his own.
You spelled “doggerel” wrong.
There’s a false psychology here, or maybe I simply have a differing opinion to that of Jeff and Dan. Seems if I had taken the time to write a piece that I felt strongly about then I’d want nishi attacking it with her steak knife held high. To me that would be a litmus test for emotive reaction. Words that don’t garner reaction are ineffectual.
That said, concerning some posters here, what you’re addressing is the tard echo. I share your indulgence to stomp on them.
If I wanted re-hashed and regurgitated Rush Limbaugh I’d pull that fat boy’s flabby butt cheeks apart, jam my nose up his ass and get a real whiff of where the man’s words are coming from. I’m not interested in the goddamned Rush parrot-heads, rural right-wingtards, nor their shit chewers’ spittle.
I love to make ’em hick mites fight back tears and gurgle. So I sort’a dig Sammy, and Cleo is my hero, which rhymes, and that’s always nice.
Why am I not surprised?