JournoList revealed.
Think “Woodward and Bernstein bring down Nixon,” only replace “Woodward and Bernstein bring down Nixon” with “A bunch of guys who were beaten up daily in junior high show why they almost certainly had it coming.”
Murrow wept.
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update: see also dicentra, over at the Pub.
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More, from Jonah Goldberg. (h/t CJ)
Comment by Mr. Pink on 3/26 @ 8:08 pm #
I just read that shit and it reads straight from a fuckin Kos diary. Racist racist racist right wingers. Color me fuckin shocked.
PS What happens to the conspiracy theorist when his conspiracy theories are proven right?
Comment by router on 3/26 @ 8:08 pm #
“liberals” losers in high school
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Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/26 @ 8:10 pm #
I think a few people are going to be off Olby’s Christmas card list, though.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 3/26 @ 8:13 pm #
SBP did you notice how they qualify him with statements like “Well my friends like Olby, but I (who am a huge intellect) will admit that he is over the line sometimes”? He will still love them at the end of the day cause they say none of that shit publically.
Comment by Dan Collins on 3/26 @ 8:14 pm #
Maybe JournoList will get Worst Person in the World.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 3/26 @ 8:15 pm #
By the way notice the lack of discussion about Keith’s use of language? Hahhahahahaahahahaahaa. Yeah he is such a burden when attracting moderates it seems like.
Comment by router on 3/26 @ 8:17 pm #
progressives: they deliver fruitcakes to each other
Comment by drago on 3/26 @ 8:18 pm #
ha! is that for real?
what a bunch of fucking wankers.
Comment by Sdferr on 3/26 @ 8:20 pm #
I tried a lame parody earlier but I think it needed the headers and pointers to have worked properly. Another shot:
From: Muss’d Hare Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:08:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Dec 09 2008 1:08 pm Subject: Re: BREAKING: Iglesias has shit for an online Nic Is it just me or does mygles rotate a little too closely to smeagol for its owner’s unkenning comfort?
On Dec 09, 1:05 pm, Gumdorp Hantouche wrote:
Comment by Jeff G. on 3/26 @ 8:20 pm #
TIME MACHINE-POSSIBLE DEATH THREAT!
Comment by Jeff G. on 3/26 @ 8:21 pm #
If Iowahawk isn’t already working on something, I’m a be hittin’ this bitch up for months.
Comment by Sdferr on 3/26 @ 8:21 pm #
frack, the e-mail addresses didn’t print for being too close to reals I ‘ll bet. curses.
Comment by Sdferr on 3/26 @ 8:23 pm #
[mussd...@gmail.com] and [gummy...@gmail.com]
Comment by router on 3/26 @ 8:25 pm #
i’m so glad that between property taxes and fed taxes i’m paying for this “wisdom”.
Comment by Channelling Patterico on 3/26 @ 8:26 pm #
And you wonder why people hate you. You are so mean.
The conservative movement will never get anywhere until it can fully participate in the JournoList too.
Kathleen Parker, David Frum and I are all on the short list. David Brooks spoke up for us.
Comment by liberrocky on 3/26 @ 8:27 pm #
Oh baby that is some good stuff…they have the lameness turned to 11.
I can only hope there is more
Comment by Spiny Norman on 3/26 @ 8:28 pm #
Jeff G.
:: cue maniacal laughter ::
Comment by happyfeet on 3/26 @ 8:34 pm #
It really does explain the mechanics of at least a good part of the synchronicity of dirty socialist propaganda.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 3/26 @ 8:34 pm #
15
Yeah give all those assholes a ballout with all our donations to your website Jeff and complete the circle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-0srhP-FqA&feature=related
Comment by router on 3/26 @ 8:42 pm #
so i’m watching this on tcm and i’m watching then thinking like hg wells like liberal fascism fame and i note in his movie the world of 1945 blown up buildings is the same in 1970. good mother earth these proggs are insane
Comment by Pablo on 3/26 @ 8:46 pm #
Oh, it’s the Juicebox mafia. Is there anybody who’s really anybody on there, though, or is it just them?
Comment by Swen Swenson on 3/26 @ 8:55 pm #
Well.. Now we know why they wanted it to be secret, don’t we?
Comment by ccoffer on 3/26 @ 8:55 pm #
All that’s missing is the adolescent abbreviations. lol.
fu
Comment by Alec Leamas on 3/26 @ 8:56 pm #
What makes the whole thing so fucking delicious is that Ezra and Co. are so obviously getting rock hard because his club is exclusive and secret, like a super-charicature of all of the clubs which they were never invited to join because Ezra was too effeminate, Alterman too, well, himself, and Pollitt – let’s just say shaving thirty years off of that wouldn’t make much difference.
Comment by Big D on 3/26 @ 8:56 pm #
This is OT, but a good read. I’ve seen this guy on TV all day. Wouldn’t it be nice if one of the R’s in Washington had the same stones?
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 3/26 @ 8:58 pm #
Gawd, it’s just juicy goodness rolled in sprinkles.
They cap on Sully too and I thought it was pretty funny that they even went as far as to complain that someone at TNR had the audacity to admit Jonah Goldberg is actually a good natured person (or some such) as proof the publication is off the rails!!
Jeff pointed out a couple threads his astonishment that they actually devolve into the bizarre racist ad homs based on no evidence of such with their own and now this group of high school girls are in a place where not only can they bear to exchange pleasantries on a personal level with their ideological counterpart foes, there’s a sense they think conservatives should be locked up on criminal charges or something.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/26 @ 8:59 pm #
Reads like a transcript of The View, only with a lower testosterone level.
Comment by Steve of AR on 3/26 @ 9:02 pm #
dont sully all high school losers with the journalist association.
Some of us went into IT
Comment by dicentra on 3/26 @ 9:03 pm #
This is almost as good as the video of the NYU cafeteria takeover, except it’s ongoing. And real. Deliciously real.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/26 @ 9:03 pm #
We’re trying to reach consensus here, people!
Comment by router on 3/26 @ 9:06 pm #
the thing about 1000 monkeys typing? oh heck i denounce myself
Comment by Joe on 3/26 @ 9:07 pm #
It is times like this I wish Spy Magazine still existed.
Comment by router on 3/26 @ 9:07 pm #
the trend is there but there are exceptions
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 3/26 @ 9:09 pm #
I remembered that Brad Delong (who shows up on the intellectual melting pot transcript to cap on Sullivan ((don’t get me wrong – think it’s HIGHlarious they capped on Sully))) had some things to say about the vaunted JournoList last week (put your drink down)
and
this is too fucking funny.
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2009/03/the-juice-box-mafia-world-domination-edition.html
Comment by router on 3/26 @ 9:13 pm #
naomi wolf likes the cut of his jib
Comment by router on 3/26 @ 9:14 pm #
thanks to dennis miller
Comment by The Pragamtic Republicans on 3/26 @ 9:14 pm #
There will be weeks of fun in this I suspect. Going to be interesting to watch the roaches run tomorrow.
Comment by Abe Froman on 3/26 @ 9:14 pm #
“dont sully all high school losers with the journalist association.
Some of us went into IT”
There’s the “in your own little world” nerd and then there’s the “angry as shit that the jocks get to bang the cheerleaders while I’m stuck at home reading Proust and I’m going to piss on the world forever because of it” nerds. Proggy journos are ALWAYS the latter. Its why someone like Baracky gives them wood because even though he has the plumage of a leftist fairy bird there’s also some of the markings of the cool kid who chose them!
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/26 @ 9:16 pm #
I wonder how many black people are on JournoList?
I mean, since they’re so hypersensitive to race privilege thingie, I’m sure their membership must be at least 13% African American and 14% Hispanic, with minorities overall making up at least 1/3 of the group.
Right?
Right?
Something tells me that the mean melanin level around there ranks somewhat below that of Edgar Winter.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/26 @ 9:17 pm #
There will be weeks of fun in this I suspect.
Oh, absolutely. I’d bet that Kaus either has a full archive of the list, or soon will.
Comment by Dan Collins on 3/26 @ 9:20 pm #
We should start our own parodic version: YourinaList.
Comment by Chris L. on 3/26 @ 9:20 pm #
It’s like the Special Olympics or something.
Comment by router on 3/26 @ 9:22 pm #
progglist works
Comment by prairiemain on 3/26 @ 9:24 pm #
Hey, how’s that “Let’s Demonize Rush Limbaugh” working out for ya? Did you send the checks to the wrong people? Rush’s ratings are way, way up in all markets. I’d fire your strategy guy and you may have to drop Frum from your date list.
JournoList — kind of like a “Who’s Who” but for the “Lame”.
Comment by Pablo on 3/26 @ 9:25 pm #
Oliver Willis could make that list 20% black all by himself.
Comment by prairiemain on 3/26 @ 9:25 pm #
oh, rats … I said “lame” … my bad.
Comment by router on 3/26 @ 9:28 pm #
proggs in power: 3 stooges flicks
Comment by The Pragamtic Republicans on 3/26 @ 9:28 pm #
The fun thing is going to be watching Kaus s-l-o-w-l-y divulge the names of all the members. How many network correspondents you think? Oh and Marty, this is the thanks you get for covering for these douches on the Beachamp thing.
Comment by Pablo on 3/26 @ 9:30 pm #
You know what’s funny? Obama with a 50% job approval rating and Hillary at 71%. Which also goes to show that there’s a large underserved population of Stupid-Americans.
Comment by geoffb on 3/26 @ 9:30 pm #
The Stooges were much more together. Not as catty either.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 3/26 @ 9:31 pm #
Pablo, God help me, but I sure wish Hillary was President right now.
Comment by dicentra on 3/26 @ 9:33 pm #
I’d fire your strategy guy
NO! Let him stay! He’s invaluable to the cause!
Ours, that is.
Comment by router on 3/26 @ 9:34 pm #
baracky is your president. michelle says “you some kind of racist?”
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Comment by dicentra on 3/26 @ 10:13 pm #
I forgot. What does “juice-box mafia” mean? I tried urban dictionary but found it profoundly unhelpful.
Comment by blowhard on 3/26 @ 10:21 pm #
dicentra, I first heard it from Kaus and he links to here for an origin.
“juice-box” is a reference to the relative youth of the Klein, Yglesias gang.
Comment by Pablo on 3/26 @ 10:31 pm #
… they are young and callow and filled with equal measures of youthful overconfidence and SunnyD.
Comment by B Moe on 3/26 @ 10:41 pm #
Marty’s post demonstrates the accidental danger in praising Latin American immigrants as driven and hard-working. Logically it makes sense, but it’s also easy for people to draw the false conclusion that anyone who doesn’t immigrate is therefore lazy and stupid.
Accidental danger, he says. Isn’t accidental sort of the opposite of intentional?
Comment by The Pragamtic Republicans on 3/26 @ 10:47 pm #
B. Moe
Gosh, it’s almost as if some people have decided to make shit up and use it to bludgeon other people into silence.
Comment by peter jackson on 3/26 @ 10:49 pm #
Well I gotta say, after reading that lame-ass thread I feel kind of stoopid for being a little worried about this list. Still, let’s see if any cross-publication framing threads get leaked.
Comment by The Pragamtic Republicans on 3/26 @ 10:54 pm #
Just because they are idiots don’t mean they can’t be destructive, Peter. Give it a couple of days and see what else Kaus has, and in the mean time enjoy the comedy. And also note the way they assign racist motivations to perfectly factual statements by Peretz. That sort of dishonesty is not to be minimized.
Comment by Jeff G. on 3/26 @ 10:57 pm #
Had they simply been more precise, this whole thing could have been avoided.
Comment by The Pragamtic Republicans on 3/26 @ 11:03 pm #
Somewhere along the line we substituted feaux-precision for flat out lying, and some folk are desperate not to go back to the simple truth. Odd.
Comment by dicentra on 3/26 @ 11:41 pm #
Hugh Hewitt interviews Kaus and talks about JournoList.
Hugh reaches pretty much the same conclusion as we do. The word “immature” comes into play.
Comment by geoffb on 3/27 @ 12:12 am #
These are the people our “pragmatic/progressive conservatives” wish to emulate and with which they are panting, begging to socialize.
Comment by psycho... on 3/27 @ 12:15 am #
Damn right.
Consensus and who sets it in any closed group is determined in the same way a “group of high school girls” does it — a pecking order set through a series of tentative challenges to and shibboleth-mouthing cowerings from the biggest names, squashed splinterings (how and by whom they’re squashed), “beta”-level under-mutinies, etc.
It is there, more clearly than it would be in any “serious” leak, behind which all of this would be silently revolving.
Someone tell Jonah Heathers is about Hitler. It kinda is.
Aside–
It’s working perfectly. Rush — “Rush” — is a prop in it, not the target. Watch the hands, not the ball.
Comment by Joebob Fickstick on 3/27 @ 4:47 am #
If my ‘friends’ acted this way they wouldn’t be my friends for very long. The biggest difference between conservatives and liberals is conservatives really do believe in civility and maintaining a little bit of decorum. We get shitty pretty quick and some of our more populist adherents, frankly, are morons, but at least we understand what we’re supposed to be doing and act like culture matters. Witness the staffers around Obama when he’s speaking – they’re using Blackberries and ignoring the guy. Bush would have had his staffers’ ass for that. So if that’s how they treat the president, with a total lack of respect for his office or his person, I’m not surprised this is how they treat each other. What a nasty bunch of people; glad I’m not in their club. They make me recoil.
The one thing I will say for their crapulent behavior – they aren’t susceptible to charges of hypocrisy. They have no manners and no couth whatsoever, not even in private between friends. So when they treat us like shit and can’t debate civilly or acknowledge our fundamental humanity, we shouldn’t be offended. It’s just how they view the world. Whether this is ignorance or a result of adopting a Gramscian notion that civility must be undermined in order to bring about their utopia isn’t clear to me – Abbie Hoffman was aware of that revolutionary principle but I’m not sure about the rest of them. I suspect most of these jackasses aren’t aware of the philosophical significance of how they treat each other and just do it because they enjoy the freedom one gets from acting like a pants pooping 3 year old.
I take that back. My kid never acted that rudely at 3 years old because he was taught to act better.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 3/27 @ 4:56 am #
“Something tells me that the mean melanin level around there ranks somewhat below that of Edgar Winter.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
Talent level, too.
Comment by Rusty on 3/27 @ 5:07 am #
It’s working perfectly. Rush — “Rush†— is a prop in it, not the target. Watch the hands, not the ball.
Psycho. That’s giving them too much credit. Judging by what I’ve just read, they don’t have it in em.
Comment by LTC John on 3/27 @ 6:36 am #
Good Lord – I saw better intellectual quality discussions amongst the various cliques in the High School I substitute taught at in the early 1990s…
This is what Frey, Frum, Brooks and company would have us aspire to become?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 3/27 @ 7:04 am #
I think what takes the cake is these people view themselves as the best and brightest while at the same time holding contempt for the average racist redneck rube in middle America.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 3/27 @ 7:09 am #
That’s Brad “Impeach George W. Bush. Impeach him now.” Delong, to you.
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Comment by Mark Buehner on 3/27 @ 7:44 am #
Self important name droppers. Could you imagine having dinner with one of these dopes? ‘You know, I worked with Donna Brazil. THE Donna Brazil. And her dry cleaning was always interesting”.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 3/27 @ 7:48 am #
Brazile
Comment by Mark Buehner on 3/27 @ 8:06 am #
See, I could never join the list. They’d smoke me out in a second. I don’t even know which degree Mason Dick Cheney is.
Comment by Phinn on 3/27 @ 8:46 am #
This seems like a good time to recycle my favorite JPEG of Eric Alterman.
He bears an eerie resemblance to a couple of other guys named Eric. (The guy in the middle is an idiot on the Howard Stern show.)
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1613/threeericsfo7.jpg
Comment by Slartibartfast on 3/27 @ 8:52 am #
NTTAWWT
Comment by JorgXMcKie on 3/27 @ 8:53 am #
Loved the Urinallist thread. Sounded like the chess club nerds whining about the jocks while jockeying for position in a running Star Wars trivia contest.
As for Cheney’s degree level in the Masons, it’s way above Illuminati, but if you found out what it is he’d have to strangle you slowly.
Comment by JorgXMcKie on 3/27 @ 8:56 am #
Yeah, Eric Cartman is both more intellectual and more entertaining than Eric Alterman.
Why is it that every time I read anything Alterman has written (which is as seldom as possible) I get this feeling he’s a whiny, little, but smug-for-no-good-reason bitch? Oh. Prob ably because he is.
Comment by Mikey NTH on 3/27 @ 9:41 am #
I wonder if they have a secret handshake?
Perhaps they have to put on a special hat or uniform before logging in?
Comment by Rusty on 3/28 @ 6:40 am #
#82
They all post wearing sunglasses.
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