March 23, 2009

“A Good Man is Hard to Find,” 2

From the Boston Herald:

The honeymoon is over, a national poll will signal tomorrow as President Obama’s job approval stumbles to about 50 percent over the lack of improvement with the crippled economy.

The sobering numbers come as the president backpedals from two prime-time gaffes – one comparing his bowling score to a Special Olympian and another awkwardly laughing about the economy, which prompted Steve Kroft of “60 Minutes” to ask “are you punch-drunk?”

Pollster John Zogby said his poll out in the morning will show Americans split on the president’s performance. He said the score factors out to “about 50-50.”

Some polls show Obama coasting with a 65 percent job approval, but not in Zogby’s tally.
“The numbers are going down,” Zogby told the Herald. “It’s not because of the gaffes, but a combination of high expectations and that things aren’t moving fast enough with the economy.”

Well, that, and maybe some people are beginning to recognize that a “good man” who has the country’s best interests at heart doesn’t take careless shots at Special Olympians, or make suggestions that wounded soldiers pay for their own upkeep, much less lie and dissemble about his role in everything from AIG bonuses to his administration’s coordinated effort to try to take down Rush Limbaugh and assert a certain control over the press.

In fact, some people might even find those kinds of policies indicative of a character that is somewhat the opposite of good — specifically, they could be starting to see in Obama a narcissist who believes his personal appeal can cover up the disdain he has for this country and its founding ideals.

Which, gee. I sure hope the great undecided middle doesn’t hear me say that out loud

( h/t Jules Crittenden)

Posted by Jeff G. @ 8:17pm
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Comments (72)

  1. Oh. And Patrick Frey has no honor. In my opinion.

  2. things aren’t moving fast enough with the economy

    My dad used to tell me Rome wasn’t burned in a day.

  3. Things aren’t moving fast enough with the economy …

    I suspect that a portion of Barcky’s supporters wish that he would destroy our economic system even faster.

  4. He’s been in the single digits on Rasmussen for a couple of weeks.

    Rasmussen only counts strong opinions toward the approval index, though, which IMO is right (weak approval or disapproval can change at a nervous cough).

  5. a narcissist who believes his personal appeal can cover up the disdain he has for this country and its founding ideals

  6. a narcissist who believes his personal appeal can cover up the disdain he has for this country and its founding ideals

    I meant to add… Jeff, no one has said it better.

  7. When his community organizer volunteers come around my place, I’ll be sure to belt them with my pushbroom.

  8. he is a good man if you think reid and pelosi are good company(nationalized)

  9. a narcissist who believes his personal appeal can

    …charm the nuclear ambitions out of the mullah’s heads
    …persuade Hamas to drive the Jews into the sea give up their violent ways
    …keep the press on his side forever
    …instantly transform the nation into an Alinskyite fantasy where everybody is a community organizer
    …prevent anyone and everyone from noticing that he’s an empty suit
    …cause the seas to stop rising and the planet to start healing

    You voted for him, America. You deserve every bit of misery he heaps upon us.

  10. he’s like a bart simpson. global though. or president hoover.

  11. Hoover had actually done things with his life before he became President, not to say he didn’t make plenty of mistakes once he took office, just to point out that he did know something about the world.

  12. That all this economic turmoil/destruction is happening, because of a narcissist, who is over his head, is bad enough. Thinking that, maybe, this is the plan, and that he knows exactly what he is doing is so much worse.

  13. michelle ain’t marge simpson. got too much arm tone(BO?) for that?

  14. geoffb @ 12,

    I agree, particularly the “knowing exactly what he is doing” part. It keeps me up at night worrying for my kids.

  15. Pipe down Jeff. If you don’t shut your trap, America might…start agreeing with you.

    CIVILITY NOW!!!

  16. In response to this post, actual Conversation between Olbermann and Maher:

    They decided that Glenn Beck is dangerous and will incite someone to kill Obama.

    Now I am not a huge Glenn Beck fan, but I occasionally listen to him on the radio. I have never seen his Fox Show. I saw his CNN show once or twice. But I never heard him say anything even remotely threatening about anyone.

    I think we can all agree that Maher and Olbermann are utter mendoucheous scumbags to slander Glenn Beck that way.

    What do you think?

  17. Joe,

    I like twat waffle better, it has more of an OUTLAW! ring to it, no?

  18. Rasmussen Numbers Show Downward Obama Trend

    But Andrew Sullivan visits Pat’s Place:

    Karl should specify that the “shaky start” which he attributes to Obama is his personal opinion, as it is shared by very few in this country. See approval ratings.

    Comment by Andrew — 3/23/2009 @ 4:06 pm

  19. Cepik–you are a creative soul. Outlaw.

  20. I think we can all agree that Maher and Olbermann are utter mendoucheous scumbags to slander Glenn Beck that way.

    What do you think?

    Comment by Joe — 3/23/2009 @ 8:12 pm

    I think that 1) they should report him to the Secret Service; and 2) they did him a kindness by giving him a “Miranda warning” so he would stop incriminating himself.

    Comment by nk — 3/23/2009 @ 8:19 pm

    Ahh, good to see them defending Maher and Olbermann, like the good conservatives they are. Because Obama is a good man, and they are good too.

  21. Joe, when leftists claim the special power to interpret someone else’s words, does it matter what Beck actually says? Remember how they spread the smear that someone at a McCain-Palin rally said “kill him” when Obama’s name was mentioned, despite the fact that there is no corroborating evidence to support the original reportage? But, like Joyless Behar spinning conspiracy theories of RethugliKKKan Dirty Tricks in Senator Johnson’s stroke, they… “know what… this party is capable of”, and actual evidence isn’t really required.

  22. Beck doesn’t have to be threatening to be “dangerous” he just has to be a conservative with a platform. Don’t you realize that somewhere there’s a guy in a doublewide who will use his Rush Limbaugh decoder ring to decipher the Beck hate code and then put a monkey doll on his porch with an Obama button?

  23. Beck responds to Maher

    Beck felt the need to defend himself when accused of being “dangerous” to Obama.

    Good to know that real conservatives have our collective backs!

  24. “It keeps me up at night worrying for my kids.”

    Me too. My one consolation is my belief that this country is a bigger tiger than they expect to be riding.

  25. “Jesus!” the old lady cried. “You’ve got good blood! I know you wouldn’t shoot a lady! I know you come from nice people! Pray! Jesus, you ought not to shoot a lady. I’ll give you all the money I’ve got!”

    H/t The Flan.
    ==================================

  26. “My one consolation is my belief that this country is a bigger tiger than they expect to be riding.”

    Very True. We’ll survive this. If we can beat back the leftists a little further than before and show our kids how to do it, we’ll be good.

  27. There are so so many nuclear options we haven’t even thought of. But Mr. Soros thinks of nothing but.

  28. If you ever want to get your blood boiling, go find MadCow’s rant about how we should not call the World Series the World Series, since we could not win the World Baseball Classic. Goddam twat. She was smirking and literally laughing that we lost to Japan. I will say it. She is an un-American twat.

  29. Comparing Patterico’s attitude toward obama with his attitude toward Kathryn Johnston is very educational.

    This link has the background on Kathryn Johnston.

    Tearful Atlanta Cops Express Remorse for Shooting 92-Year-Old Kathryn Johnston, Leaving Her To Bleed to Death in Her Own Home While They Planted Drugs in Her Basement, Then Threatening an Informant So He Would Lie To Cover It All Up

    This link is to the post where Patterico weighs in on the case shortly after she was shot and before the criminal police actions were known.


    Libertarians Jump the Gun in Story of Shooting in Atlanta

    These are some of patterico’s comments to others in the comment thread on that post

    May God forgive this old lady for firing on 3 cops who were, from all available information, just doing their jobs.

    Because of her actions in firing on officers, she’s now getting to find out whether that forgiveness is available.

    Comment by Patterico — 11/22/2006 @ 10:27 pm

    OK. If an old lady thinks opening fire on three guys who have announced themselves to be policemen is a good idea, she needs to be ready to take her own lumps.

    And she did.

    Comment by Patterico — 11/22/2006 @ 10:27 pm

    Conclusion: Patterico is a sycophantic political star f***er who gives powerful and well connected politicians leeway he would not give to an innocent 92 year old woman gunned down in her own home.

    His comments on the case give pretty good evidence that his ethics and honesty on issues he is closely attached to are not very impressive.

  30. Good men too, not misunderstood assholes like Rush and others.

    Like Kathryn Johnson. Outlaw.

  31. B-B-But…H-He’s a good man, right..?

    Besides, Rush!, Eric Cantor!, Rethugs!!!, Boooooooooosh! did it!, Hope!, Change!…

    Polls are just a…distraction!

    I hope Obama fails!, and also all of those people who are enamored with his goodness!, or with keeping up that pretense…

  32. Sorry, maggie. It, not she.

  33. that’s better. Now I can sleep peacefully. or not, cause RTO’s still at the office.

  34. I don’t know how to love him.
    What to do, how to move him.
    I’ve been changed, yes really changed.
    In these past few days, when I’ve seen myself,
    I seem like someone else.
    I don’t know how to take this.
    I don’t see why he moves me.
    He’s a man. He’s just a man.
    And I’ve had so many men before,
    In very many ways,
    He’s just one more.
    Should I bring him down?
    Should I scream and shout?
    Should I speak of love,
    Let my feelings out?
    I never thought I’d come to this.
    What’s it all about?
    Don’t you think it’s rather funny,
    I should be in this position.
    I’m the one who’s always been
    So calm, so cool, no lover’s fool,
    Running every show.
    He scares me so.
    I never thought I’d come to this.
    What’s it all about?
    Yet, if he said he loved me,
    I’d be lost. I’d be frightened.
    I couldn’t cope, just couldn’t cope.
    I’d turn my head. I’d back away.
    I wouldn’t want to know.
    He scares me so.
    I want him so.
    I love him so.

  35. MadCow’s rant about how we should not call the World Series the World Series, since we could not win the World Baseball Classic. Goddam twat. She was smirking and literally laughing that we lost to Japan. I will say it. She is an un-American twat.

    I’m lost. Nancy Pelosi?

  36. guinsPen – Rachel MadCow on MSNBC

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  39. They decided that Glenn Beck is dangerous and will incite someone to kill Obama.

    It sounds like Olberman and Maher are starting to have some serious problems with their fantasy life, now having to project upon poor Glenn Beck the role of Voodoo Man, but especially the part about Obama being their Savior.

  40. Comment by Andrew Sullivan on 3/23 @ 10:11 pm

    Damn, I used to like that song, Andy. Next thing, you’ll prolly want to get married.

  41. Duracomm, thanks for the links. I’m learning more about Patterico, like his antipathy to libertarians and little old ladies what have been merely accused of something with only shitbag lying cops as the accusers. He seems to reserve some considerable ire for Steve Verdon whom I know and like from back when I used to hang around the debunkers.org nee junkscience.com forum (he’s the guy what got me interested in blogging). Hey happyfeet (you commenter person you that I find most compelling and entertaining and smart), I’d be interested to hear your take on Duracomm’s link vis-a-vis your evalution of Pat’s honor (which, that’s not a loaded question, I’m really interested.)

  42. MadCow really makes my teeth itch. Smirky to the nth degree.

    The thing is, so many of us did see Obamania for what it was and is: a cult of personality built around an unaccomplished man hewing to far left politics and a disturbing history of associating with anti-American radicals.

    What were they thinking when they pulled the lever for him? It’s simple, they weren’t thinking…slightly more than 52% of those who bothered to vote voted on little more than faith in vaporous promises with no intellectual heft nor a shred of honesty to back them up.

  43. I seem to be somewhat punctually challenged at this late hour.

  44. Here’s the transcript of Beck’s response. Link includes the Maher video that he’s mentioning.

    It’s a classic exhibit of Jeff’s point: they wrested the meaning from Glenn and substituted their own, then used it to smear him as dangerous.

    Check it out:

    MAHER: Listening to people like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck these days, I cannot figure out whether these right-wingers are more dangerous when they’re in power or when they’re out of power because when they’re out of power, you know, their paranoia goes off the charts. This Glenn Beck guy, I wouldn’t even give him the time of day except he’s a big star now on Fox and a lot of people believe, and he’s talking about FEMA concentration camps.

    GLENN: Okay, I just want you to know this isn’t accurate at all. I did mention the Internet conspiracy theory of FEMA concentration camps, particularly in relation to a segment in which we are going to debunk Internet conspiracy theories. I said on the air the day — I snapped. Did anybody hear it? I snapped: “Can we just set the record straight on this. Stop looking at things that are on the Internet.” But Bill Maher, isn’t he also talking about FEMA concentration camps? Maybe he’s just paranoid as well. I’m not really sure. Let’s listen in.

    And guess who said this some years back?

    If you believe in the seamless mutuality of government and big business, come out and say it. There is a dictionary definition, one word that describes that toxic blend. You’re a fascist. Get them to print you a T-shirt with fascist on it. What else is this but fascism?

    If you guessed Jonah Goldberg, guess again.

    Read Glenn’s transcript for the answer.

  45. The tax implications for those who returned the bonuses was not clear, said Cuomo.*

    Read that as many times as it takes…

    also I am trying to think how to answer mal

  46. So, what is he suggesting there…that the executives be taxed at confiscatory levels anyway? If so, that’s simply batshit crazy.

  47. Ditto to duracomm. This stuff Pattycake has been writing is a wee bit creepy. I can’t figure the angle. Is it absolutely established that three guys claiming to be cops were clearly what they said they were, in the mind of the elderly woman? Was there a warrant? Before I would say “she needs to be ready to take her own lumps” I would want to be damn sure the cops weren’t playing games. It wouldn’t be the first time. And I’m one of the last people to come down against the cops, in general. The entire Rodney King issue was absurdly stilted against the police from the outset.

    There is something oddly Puritan about Pattycake The Rico.

  48. This is one of those things I think, mal. Tempers flared. It looks a lot less ephemeral now than it will after it becomes more past tensey. People. A lot of it is people.

  49. … not done

  50. The Kathryn thing … Mr. Patterico is in Los Angeles. Los Angeles reflexively assumes the guilt of police. Always. There are reasons for this, but it still offends Mr. Patterico’s sense of fairness.

    That’s my for real best guess.

  51. have to sleep. I’m glad everyone is here.

  52. Mr. Patterico is in Los Angeles. Los Angeles reflexively assumes the guilt of police. Always. There are reasons for this, but it still offends Mr. Patterico’s sense of fairness.

    I’m not sure diametrical knee-jerking redounds to fairness either. It really seems to be a “keep the wheel of karma spinning” kind of thing. And in this case it triggers the gag reflex pretty aggressively. But it is definitely a human response it seems to me, so I can infer Mr. Patterico is at least very human. Which, that’s something. You are a champion of humans in my genuine estimation happyfeet. Night, sir.

  53. “Beck felt the need to defend himself when accused of being “dangerous” to Obama. ”

    Maybe he could be the first guy in the camps he likes so much.

  54. I can’t figure the angle.

    That people are a problem for the government to solve.

    Or kill. Whatever.

    The first step goes all the way down.

  55. It’s 4 and I didn’t sleep and I wasn’t here. You think it’s just tempers flared? I mean yes it’s that in spades.

    I wish Rhett Butler were here to say “I apologize for all my shortcomings”. That’s my favorite line ever. I think it happened right before the civil war.

  56. Somebody explain to me how dicking around with the economy is government’s job?

  57. His poll numbers will never be as low as W’s though – Obama could pee on the constitution while waving a communist flag on live television and 25-30% of the country would “strongly approve” of the job he’s doing.

  58. George W never polled well with idiots. I felt it was a strength.

  59. “Maybe he could be the first guy in the camps he likes so much.”

    Pay attention, meya.

    If you can.

  60. Comment by guinsPen on 3/23 @ 10:11 pm #

    I’m lost. Nancy Pelosi?

    Reach behind you and grab your ass, then pull your head out. Once you do that you can probably figure out where you are from there.

  61. The tax implications for those who returned the bonuses was not clear…

    Sounds like someone is considering a turn to the practice of charging the execution victim for the cost of the bullet that killed him.

  62. “Sounds like someone is considering a turn to the practice of charging the execution victim for the cost of the bullet that killed him.”

    Done and done. See Stimulus Bill.

  63. A useful antidote to the insane pronouncement found here

    Obama: And if we continue to let financial institutions around the world act recklessly and irresponsibly, we will remain trapped in a cycle of bubble and bust.

    can be found here.

  64. His poll numbers will never be as low as W’s though – Obama could pee on the constitution while waving a communist flag on live television and 25-30% of the country would “strongly approve” of the job he’s doing.

    I don’t think that’s true. Alot of the Obama love is infatuation with the new. Once it becomes so obvious that even the contortions of the MSM can’t cover up the incompetence, the lustre will fade and you’ll see him drop to Jimmy Carter levels of popularity. Only the true believers will hold on to Obama as a misunderstood agent of hopeychange.

    When the popularity fades, Obama will go under the bus in the name of preserving progressiveness. Everyone is dispensible in an authoritarian system.

  65. CNBC reporter Michelle Caruso-Cabrera just broke a story on air involving NY AG Cuomo, the givebacks on AIG bonuses and an internal memo from AIG that indicates Cuomo had threatened to release to the public the names of AIG recipients of bonuses should they not give them back and conversely a promise not to release those names if the bonuses were returned (given up) in an as yet unknown “sufficient” quantity. In other words, the AG of NY was, in general terms, using a form of quid pro quo, or blackmail, if you like, to achieve the aims of an ignorant mob. Wowza. This won’t end here. The story has not been posted to their website yet that I can see.

  66. Ok, it’s up now. Here.

  67. i was wondering how the Cuomo deal and the crap out of congress didn’t amount to extortion. “That’s a nice little bonus ya’ got there, shame if something happened to it”

  68. Pablo suggested I post this again:

    Jeff Goldstein’s threat of violence:

    I READILY ADMIT TO THREATENING TO BEAT CERTAIN PEOPLE’S ASSES. And you know what? I’d still do it to most of them if we ever met up. So?

    Jeff Goldstein’s threat of violence:

    Scott Jacobs is one of those guys I mentioned that if I ever met him in person, I’d leave him in a heap, mewling like a baby pussy.

    Jeff Goldstein’s threat of violence:

    Hey, listen: Doc Weasel is a cover band. The guy who runs their site, Kenny, is a 140lb unpaid roadie and all around lackey living at home with mom, posting amateur porn and tugging at his own little doc weasel. If I ever run into him, I’ll break him like a toothpick.

    Jeff Goldstein’s threat of violence:

    Note that I said if I ever ran across some of these people, I’d have no problem — and feel no guilt — about snapping their ACL.

    Jeff Goldstein’s threat of violence:

    As I said earlier, why the fuck should I be embarrassed about telling people who’ve said some vile things to me that I’d be happy to meet up with them in person, where I’d give them the opportunity to say those same vile things directly to my face. Just before I broke their fucking ankles?

    Jeff Goldstein’s threat of violence:

    I’ve probably gotten into it with about a half dozen people over the years, some of whom if I ran into them in the street I would beat their ass without hesitation.

    From: Jeff Goldstein: Arguing “On Point” — With Threats of Violence.

    Thanks to Pablo for the suggestion. It’s a good one. Sorta makes it clear who wrote this post.

  69. Reply to Patterico re: “violence” charges here.

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