March 20, 2009

You are being watched

JournoList is keeping an eye on your behavior. I wonder, are they putting together a dossier on those sites that, you know, traffic in hate?

Because that might come in useful to some, especially in a climate wherein the Fairness Doctrine is ascendant.

Remember: free speech means tolerance, and tolerance now means not giving offense. Which, following that logic, means that we can only have truly free speech in a climate where people can speak without fear of being offended.

Yield: free speech means never having to say you’re sorry. The rest is “hate speech” and can legitimately be purged. In the public interest. And for the greater good.

– with the result being the First Amendment turned completely upside down.

It’s mourning in America, people. And Ezra Klein is tweeting his way to Vichy commander.

How proud his parents must be!

(h/t CJ)

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relatedly two-faced.

Posted by Jeff G. @ 11:55am
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Comments (32)

  1. So OUTLAW will = Free French? I’m good with that.

  2. The use of “lists” seems to be en vogue at the moment.

    Cause for concern?

  3. Yeah, we’re scum, but it’s not like any of the conservative journalists at the NRO or the Standard or any where else will ever oppose us, is it? They might miss a cocktail party if they do that.

  4. Funny, I left a hypothetical in Patterico’s comments that dealt exactly with this topic. It’s funny how outlandish the things we warn of are… until they happen the very next day.

    Hey, daleyrocks, beware “teh irony”.

  5. bh, speaking of watching, see **.

  6. Mebbe we should get a list.

  7. I always get the feeling with progressives that they’re playing out their adolescent revenge fantasies on the cool kids from high school.

  8. Sdferr, hmmm, curious. I never saw Jeff’s comment over there. I assumed he was talking about a private email when he brought it up in the thread.

    Yeah, I don’t presume Patterico’s good faith anymore. He’s taken some bizarre liberties with Jeff. As a general mode of operation, he responds to comments he finds easy to deflect and simply ignores the rest.

    Enough with him. I’m done.

  9. #7 a good segue to the Hillbuzz “I told you so”.

  10. Hey Ezra, if you’re reading. Fuck you and meet me behind the subway on 76th and Superior.

  11. “Remember: free speech means tolerance, and tolerance now means not giving offense. Which, following that logic, means that we can only have truly free speech in a climate where people can speak without fear of being offended.

    Yield: free speech means never having to say you’re sorry. The rest is “hate speech” and can legitimately be purged. In the public interest. And for the greater good.”

    The frightening thing is that this if you read this to many (e.g. academia) they’d want to issue it as a policy statement, or as part of the campus or workplace “speech code.”

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  13. Klein is no Levant!

  14. Heck… I wondered if they even noticed last week on The Daily Brief (http://www.ncobrief.com/index.php/archives/data-stream/ )when I proposed that the main stream media are so stuck on Obama, and so tied up in identifying with his interests… that if he goes down, or they go down, they all go down together. In fact, I drew a comparison to the tar baby, of very un-PC folk-tale. I almost didn’t write it… and then I thought – if we are afraid to speak our minds in little ways, then what hope do we have?

  15. The said thing in “Ann Althouse sure has a lot of anti-semitic commenters” (along with “A fake golly-gee voice is the limit of my capacity for irony”) is a threat — that the open door at her place incriminates her, or allows her to be incriminated, should it be decided that such an incrimination is in order.

    Remember the story that started this.

    And when, as we’ve seen happen here (because it always happens), the threat is provisionally rescinded with an “I don’t mean you. I mean them. That’s what I said. You’re cool,” see who reacts how. If she takes that, she’s a sucker.

    But she seems almost to get it, this time.

  16. Did you just pinch Ann’s ass?

  17. This should dovetail nicely with the new “volunteers” and their shiny new uniforms. They will need lists.

  18. Wow, Ezra Klein sure follows a lot of pedophiles.

  19. I mean on Twitter. For all I know, in real life, he could be way out in front.

  20. I’ve never snapped a whipper in my life! Hell, I don’t even know what a whipper looks like!

  21. I demand JUICE. In a BOX.
    andnoididnotsayjewsinaboxezra

  22. JournoList is the Jews-box Mafia?

  23. Ezra, Ezra – there can only be one Stalin, and if you are not Stalin, then you are merely one of innumerable Trotskys. Or less.

    Sorry to bust your bubble, dude.

  24. @6: not only should we get a list, but we should put chrome rims and a flame job on it. Because that’s more OUTLAW!

  25. Ezra does want to make one thing very clear — despite some of the names that have been thrown around, “Government employees have never been, and are not now, allowed on the list.” Good to know.

    But it was Ezra Klein who named a government employee as a member of Journolist. How odd.

  26. “Government employees have never been, and are not now, allowed on the list.”

    I’m making the assumption that to get “on” the list you would have to be invited and then have a password/user name assigned to log in. Once that is done, anyone who is given that password/username combination could login. So no Government employees invited to be “on” the list but friends of Government employees, or spouses, children etc.

  27. Ezra is ramping up his role from Cabalmeister on JournoList to one of the Elders of PC jurisdiction—you can’t get on his ListServe until you check out as anti-Israel and NOT anti-Semitic. Just one of the absurd ironies produced by these sports of nature nurtured like mushrooms in darkness & plenty of happy horsesh*t.

  28. Yes, how proud his forebears must be that Ezra Klein is leading the nation to the next Reich.

  29. “I’m making the assumption that to get “on” the list you would have to be invited and then have a password/user name assigned to log in”

    why not just assume its a listserv?

  30. why not just assume its a listserv?

    Or why not assume that (as usual) you’re jabbering without the faintest clue of what you’re jabbering about?

    Listserv software (nowadays more often Majordomo or Mailman) can be configured for various privacy and security settings, including requiring a moderator password before any posts to the list are distributed.

    What, your standard technique of stealth posting several hours late didn’t let you get the last word this time?

    Sorry about that, SFAG. I was looking for a comment from someone I actually wanted to read and couldn’t help noticing you beclowning yourself yet again.

  31. “Listserv software (nowadays more often Majordomo or Mailman) can be configured for various privacy and security settings, including requiring a moderator password before any posts to the list are distributed.”

    I know. I’ve run them. That would mean the moderators would be passing along the moderator passwords. But individuals still ‘log in’ by, well, getting messages.

    “What, your standard technique of stealth posting several hours late didn’t let you get the last word this time?”

    Sorry I can’t blog as often as others.

  32. I know. I’ve run them

    And the predictable backpedaling and mendacity begins.

    Bye, meya.

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