March 11, 2009

I Did Not Make This Up [Dan Collins]

Former U.S. Sen. John Edwards took another tentative step into the public spotlight tonight, speaking at Brown University about extreme poverty around the world and urging Americans to get involved in what he called a “fundamental moral issue.”

I think I’m on record as having said that I applaud Edwards and that wack-job Rielle Hunter for having the baby, as there must have been lots of pressure to go a different direction. But I still hold that former US Senator and presidential candidate John Edwards can’t possibly speak to morality until he owns up to having knocked this woman up while his wife was in remission from cancer.

How does one go about telling the truth? Stacy’s post, linked below, is a pretty good primer.

Voluntary commitment ceremony.

Jules Crittenden:

The bigger question is why a university is giving this discredited third-string bounder a forum to hold forth on people’s moral obligations in the first place. Let him get a blog like the rest of us discredited third-string bounders.

Jules makes a good point, and if Edwards gets a decent backing band together, I’ll see what I can do to get him a spot in the line-up at the Vermont State Fair.

Hey, look! Another moral equivalence opportunity!

Hey, look! Another gutless Democrat hypocrite hack coward!

Posted by Dan Collins @ 9:30am
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Comments (83)

  1. But, Dan, what possible connection could there be between out-of-wedlock babies and poverty?!

  2. Not sure, but I guess Rielle is living reasonably large somewhere in the Caribbean.

  3. Comment by Rob Crawford on 3/11 @ 9:31 am #

    But, Dan, what possible connection could there be between out-of-wedlock babies and poverty?!

    Well, when daddy has 30 million dollars+ and can pay substantial sums to mom and junior to keep matters out of court, there is no connection at all.

  4. If you are going to condemn all of the people who have cheated on their spouses and claim that they cannot speak to morality, then I’m sad to say that I think that there are darn few people out there that CAN speak of morality!

  5. Amy, did they own up completely, or did they lie to everybody and try to explain away their guilt?

  6. That’s all right. I’m sure we’ll get the unvarnished truth in Mrs. Edwards’s book.

  7. Amy, I agree.

    Where were you during the Bill Bennett/gambling dustup, I wonder?

    Also please note that John Edwards is a scumbag. Actually, he’s the scum that still sticks to the bag when the scumbag is emptied to put in fresh scum.

  8. Well, Amy, the problem isn’t so much his speaking about it, as his lecturing about it while failing to confront his own history. Besides his using his sick wife as a campaign prop while screwing around behind her back, he lied about it long after it was obvious. Then toss in his gall at whining about poverty while living a lifestyle that blows away even the upper middle-class…

    Oh, and let’s not forget exactly how he got rich. If he had really been about seeking justice, he could have taken a lot smaller cut, still been incredibly wealthy, and done better for his clients.

    Nope. The man’s a scum-sucking leech. He gets attention because he’s got TV hair and tells the left what they want to hear. Honestly, the American body politic would be vastly healthier if he were pariah.

  9. Where were you during the Bill Bennett/gambling dustup, I wonder?

    Ya know, I still don’t get the point of that. What was Bennet doing that was so bad?

  10. Comment by Rob Crawford on 3/11@9:31 am #

    I would pay good money to see you pose that question to John Edwards at his speech at Brown University tonight.

    Would the eminent former Senator even pick up on the nuance?

  11. “I think I’m on record as having said that I applaud Edwards and that wack-job Rielle Hunter for having the baby, as there must have been lots of pressure to go a different direction.”

    How impossibly naive. If you believe that John Edwards did not try everything to get her to abort that baby you have a very different perspective on human nature than I. And if you think that the “wack job” didn’t keep the baby as an early retirment account then, frankly, I’d love to shed my cynicism and see the world how you see it but I’m afraid that’s not going to be possible (I’ll bet she’s had multiple abortions with less potentially lucrative daddies). Also to call Hunter a “wack job” but not Edwards is pretty unfair. He’s just as crazy as she is just in a different way.

  12. Democrats can not be scum bags because they have good “intentions”. Kinda like how when Obama promised to take public financing but then decided not to and cited how he was doing so for his good intentions of cleaning up the system. Also like how when Obama said he would get rid of earmarks and then goes about signing bills with 9000 of them while holding conferences on how to get rid of earmarks. They just have good intentions for people you know so it is ok. They are good people while we are very bad and we do not have good intentions only evil ones.

  13. I also think I am evil because I am a huge fan of the Angry Whopper.

  14. Bennett had the audacity to write books about morality while he spent his own money gambling in casinos, apparently. Since gamblis is AMORAL, he’s a HYPOCRITE, see. Which, according to people who hate being judged by other people, puts you between Dog Fighters and Scrooge McDuck on the continuum of evil. All of which are punishable by torture, except that it’s against Geneva conventions and we don’t want the Swiss to hate us any more.

  15. Big E, I’m not saying it on their account, but on the child’s.

  16. Gambling, damn my clicky fingers.

    Pure digression – Angry Whopper beats the Volcano Taco. But the Volcano Taco was good while it lasted.

  17. i’m a fan of mildly upset hash…er…browns

  18. I think Volcano Taco should feel honored to be spoken of in the same utterance as Angry Whopper.

  19. I think the problem here, and with the Bennet dustup was the hypocrisy. Have we forgotten the lectures on global warming from the other America, the one with a mansion the size of the town my dad grew up in?

    I won’t be lectured to by frauds. I won’t be telling you how to live your lives, either.

    I thought I was perfect, but Mrs D tells me otherwise, so on the chance she’s correct, you are spared.

  20. Also, Rob, I estimate your intelligence at 15-20% greater than mine, so my apologies if my earnest explanation was a recitation of facts you already knew; I suppose it’s possible to know what I typed but still wonder “WTF?” since stuff Dems do make very little sense, very often.

  21. I just listened to Laura Ingraham interview Peter “Infanticide is Kosher” Singer as he lectured the U.S. on its selfish ways. Because we don’t give enough to the poor in Africa — those we COULD save, see, because their parents want them.

    But no, we buy yachts and lavish living quarters while Pete Singer says that if the kid is born “icky,” we should be able to off it legally.

  22. You know, Wendy’s had a pretty good jalapeno burger they trotted out a year or so ago, but their marketing department really needs to work on product names. I mean, who could’ve forgotten a burger called (for example) “Your Ass Will Remember Tomorrow”, for example? Certainly not me.

  23. John Edwards and truth telling are inherently mutually exclusive…

  24. If you are going to condemn all of the people who have cheated on their spouses and claim that they cannot speak to morality, then I’m sad to say that I think that there are darn few people out there that CAN speak of morality!

    Exactly how many folks out there have cheated on their spouses? Well, let me assure you that I’m one of those darn few people out there. Now that I have been made aware that I’m in a class by myself … you guys can refer to me from now one when you need someone who can speak with the voice of authoritay.

  25. Where’s the definitive Japanese-English dictionary when you need it. She said stubborn, but she probably meant correct.

  26. I’m in Carin’s club as well.

    Not that I am a paragon of virtue, but I was never seriously tempted by anyone who was interested in me. My epitaph will be good, but boring.

  27. i tried to order a specific fast food item
    i couldn’t speak that fast food spanish language
    there was a lot of pointing involved
    i think they spit in my sandwich
    aye carumba!

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  29. I blame John Edwards for having exceedingly bad taste in the women he cheats with. At least find someone a slight bit classier and who knows how to use birth control.

  30. If anybody wants me, I’ll be at Burger King trying out this Angry Whopper of which you all speak so highly.

    But for real gustatory heat, there was this canteen truck that used to come around to the place where I worked years ago, with something called the Overdrive Burrito. I think it was equal parts hamburger and jalapeno pepper seeds. Not even the peppers, just the seeds.

    The company I was working for asked the truck to stop coming around because the pipes in the men’s room kept melting.

  31. Hmmm,
    Why the hell not?
    He will convince many people to vote for him.

  32. I think the problem here, and with the Bennet dustup was the hypocrisy.

    Bennet wasn’t being hypocritical.

    Bennet’s a Catholic, and the Catholic church says gambling’s OK, so long as you don’t deprive your family. In other words, “don’t do it to excess”. So far as I know, he’s also never told anyone else to never gamble.

    As far as I can tell, a bunch of people who were looking to attack Bennet attacked him for no real reason. They ginned up the attack on the basis of what would seem immoral, and completely ignored what he actually believed.

  33. could someone track angry whopper sales?
    cuz i’m getting one today
    does PW have any effect on fast food sales?
    hey-I [we] just saved or created jobs~!

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  35. Don’t expect the sort of people who would feel compelled to attack Bill Bennett to have very accurate knowledge of Catholic dogma. “As far as you can tell” seems spot-on to me.

  36. I resist the angry whopper and its 880 calories. 55 grams of fat. OMG, PUT THE BURGER DOWN!

  37. They should rename it the death whopper.

  38. Just ride the bicycle a few more minutes and you’ve worked off that 880 calories, no problem.

  39. John Edwards isn’t merely flawed or fallen, as we all are ( though I’m in Carin’s freak club), he’s a wicked narcissist who is prey to new age notions he’s some kind of chosen demi-god and therefore has a right to cheat his children out their own kin to preserve his image. He’s a vain preening dupe and a blowhard. I hope he fails.

  40. I can never bring myself to eat hamburger buns. It’s a sickness. What it on the angry whopper that turns it to a days worth of food?

  41. Wish granted, Sarah.

  42. what is it on the burger, that is.

  43. i’d rather eat lettuce that illegal immigrants
    pissed on
    moderation…
    u deny my right to have angry whopper babies/fascist!
    tax my runny ass bitch!

  44. The Angry Whopper laughs in the face of death.

  45. Long live Jamdanbi.

  46. 2 swiss cake rolls only have 270 calories and 12 grams of fat, only 5 of which are saturated. So a Whopper is more nutritious than 6 swiss cake rolls! That’s value is what that is.

  47. Think of the value once you deep fry that sucker, hf!

  48. “Ya know, I still don’t get the point of that. What was Bennet doing that was so bad?”

    He’s a conservative for goodness sakes.

  49. Here, SarahW…

    It’s a Whopper with spicy crispy onions, jalapeños, pepper jack cheese, bacon, tomatoes, lettuce, mayonnaise, and spicy Angry Sauce.

  50. no one ever said i wished i spent more time at the office
    w/ angry whopper juice running down my face
    i’d rather have a heart “moment” chasing kids off my lawn

  51. Carin, maybe you could do “My Beef with Angry Whopper”?

  52. I’m not frying anymore. It’s a dark road to go down I think and I’m just lucky I caught myself in time. Sure there’s stuff what you can fry responsibly but I can’t be trusted with fry powers. I know this about myself now, and I am humbled.

  53. I do not get mayo on mine I hate mayo. You can write an Angry-Gram on that same website though which is pretty cool.
    http://www.angry-gram.com/index.php
    Maybe I can send an Angry-Gram to Edwards to tell him to stay the hell outa public and tend to his wife who is dying of cancer. That should be his priority not people he does not know.

  54. can you fry coffee?
    cuz that would be awesome!

  55. It is a good thing for one to recognize one’s limits, hf.

  56. ron paul is angry whopper

  57. Just ride the bicycle a few more minutes and you’ve worked off that 880 calories, no problem.

    notsomuch. For the regular whopper what’s placid it takes 117 minutes of cycling to burn off. So it’s more for the angry one and that’s not counting fries with it or a tasty swiss cake roll for dessert.

  58. And if you think that the “wack job” didn’t keep the baby as an early retirment account then, frankly, I’d love to shed my cynicism and see the world how you see it but I’m afraid that’s not going to be possible

    There is the distinct possibility that Hunter is in Cinderella fantasyland with Edwards, but instead of waiting for someone to show up and fit her with a glass slipper, she’s waiting for Elizabeth to drop dead. Then she can finally be with Prince Charming for all of eternity. His cash would certainly be part of his charm, but not necessarily all of it.

    I love me some spicy food, but if I’m gonna eat something angry, I feel like I ought to kill it first.

  59. HF you ever try putting the Ho-Ho’s in the freeze for an hour or two before you eat them? Very good trust me.

  60. How long does it take to burn a Happy Meal?

  61. take an angry ride/ run over puppies/tear down mailboxes
    smash windows w/kerry-edward bumper stickers on them
    obey the law and be a pain in the ass to motorist
    wear spandex/bike helmets/madonna gloves

    it ain’t a drive thru if u run out of ethanol
    rock on rockers!

  62. And if you think that the “wack job” didn’t keep the baby as an early retirment account then, frankly, I’d love to shed my cynicism and see the world how you see it but I’m afraid that’s not going to be possible

    My guess her compounding of the deposit John Edwards made in her “early retirement account” paid off a lot beter than any 401k would have.

  63. I’m glad I hadn’t gone to BK yet before I saw they put mayo on the Angry Whopper. That would turn me into the Angry Angry Whopper Buyer, if they put mayonnaise on the thing.

    Don’t they know mayonnaise dilutes the fiery goodness that is jalapeno? It’s like bragging about how fast your computer is, but you’ve loaded it up with Vista and about 12 brazillion different start-up programs that all have to load before your cursor even appears on the screen, and all together they eat up about 75% of your available RAM. You turn on your super-fast computer and then go out to Burger King for an Angry Whopper and it still hasn’t finished booting up by the time you get back, and you’re already pissed off about that when you discover mayonnaise on your Angry Whopper!

    At least it’s not misnamed.

  64. Mr. Pink, how can you pull them to pieces if they are frozen?

    I saw where Allahpundit wasn’t touchiing the Palin gossipy story. Why should he. All that grief he’d get to no good purpose. Young folks make mistakes, at least they are not going to double down on that.

  65. ’tis not an angry whopper unless you frown when u
    order it
    exhaled sighs as you fish for the exact change
    sigh alot
    look at the poor burger-microwaver like libs look at
    conservatives..

  66. I don’t pull Ho’Ho’s apart. After you take them out of the freezer they taste like one of those money cakes you get out of the freezer section at Baskin Robbins. Just try it once and if you do not like it at least somewhat, feel free to come back and slap me.

  67. If you are going to condemn all of the people who have cheated on their spouses and claim that they cannot speak to morality, then I’m sad to say that I think that there are darn few people out there that CAN speak of morality!

    George W Bush.

    But he’s probably too moral and him speaking of morality wouldn’t work for that very reason. So it’s like Chinese handcuffs or something.

  68. “i think they spit in my sandwich” That’s called salsa de englesa, or english sauce. Or salsa Lizano. We like to call it “leftover snuff”.
    “I’m not frying anymore. It’s a dark road to go down I think and I’m just lucky I caught myself in time. Sure there’s stuff what you can fry responsibly but I can’t be trusted with fry powers. I know this about myself now, and I am humbled.” My may I humbly suggest changing to sunflower oil?

  69. For the regular whopper what’s placid it takes 117 minutes of cycling to burn off.

    Sarcasm is lost on the young.

  70. mr pink/u rule
    freezer wise
    does that apply to most moist cakes?
    ie funny-bones/ring dings etc?
    i put snickers bars in deep freeze
    but they be too hard
    cakes be good?
    thanks

  71. ’tis not an angry whopper unless you frown when u order it

    Good point, but what if I ordered it specifically without mayo, and theygave it to me without mayo?

    That would make me happy, and they’d have to rename the burger.

    Which I suppose would make BK’s marketing department angry, so maybe it still works.

  72. What if they put angry mayo on it, McGehee? I think that’s what David Brooks would like to see.

  73. #Comment by happyfeet on 3/11 @ 11:07 am #

    With great deep fryers comes great responsibility.

  74. “Pinky, are you pondering what I’m pondering?”

    “I think so Brain, but if they called them Sad Meals kids wouldn’t buy
    them.”

  75. Bush is disqualified because of his DWI. You need to be a saint, or have a “D” after your name.

  76. “Angry Mayo” is in fact the name of an Irish thrash band. Little known fact.

    And if it isn’t true, it ought to be.

  77. “For the regular whopper what’s placid it takes 117 minutes of cycling to burn off”

    I used to worry about this stuff. Then one day I just said screw it, I’ll buy bigger pants.

  78. angry whopper update
    just went and bought one
    four dollars and 19 cents
    i had the bills/ but i just put new pants on and was change-less
    it made me angry
    it was-eh’
    a lil after hot taste
    chemicals…is there anything they can’t do?

  79. For the regular whopper what’s placid it takes 117 minutes of cycling to burn off”.

    You should try an elliptical. I can get 500 calories in under 45 minuets.

    Still – no whopper is worth time in the gym. I’d rather be burning of a good glass of wine, or a home made cookie.

    I used to worry about this stuff. Then one day I just said screw it, I’ll buy bigger pants.

    I don’t look good in bigger pants.

  80. burning off. I meant.

    Actually, it’s also really easy for me to pass on fast food. I learned back when I was bartending that fast food didn’t something bad to me. I’d eat it on the way to work (sometimes) and about forty five minutes later I’d be in the worst mood. And, not feeling 100% physically. I haven’t really eaten it much since I was about 23.

  81. “If you are going to condemn all of the people who have cheated on their spouses and claim that they cannot speak to morality…”

    That’s right. Condemn. All of them. Every one.

    “…then I’m sad to say that I think that there are darn few people out there that CAN speak of morality!”

    Good. The fewer the better.

  82. where would the Tall Ships be
    matey?
    big pants are the engine that hid my intention
    for 6 generations!
    ruben-esque is my distress
    if she don’t like mash potatoes/or buttered scones

    she’s gonna look like skin and bones

    a fatwa on sheryll crow

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