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The Remarkable Incuriosity of Bill Ayers [Dan Collins]

Stunningly, it appears that this Detroit Free Press interview is the first time he’s ever been asked about Larry Grathwohl’s allegations:

Freep.com: I have to ask you about the specific allegation from, (Larry) Grathwol, the FBI informant, that there was a specific plot to blow up the Detroit Police HQ:

Ayers: None that I know. Then, I don’t know everything.

Freep.com: You’re familiar with his allegations?

Ayers: No. You’re telling me this.

Freep.com: You’ve never heard of this guy?

Ayers: I’ve heard of Grathwol. I remember him. But no, I’ve never read his book. I don’t know what he said. You’re the first person telling me.

Freep.com: He said that in February 1970 the Weatherman built two bombs targeting the Detroit Police Officers Association building and the 13th precinct.

Ayers: Not true.*

Freep.com: (Reading from Grathwol) “The instructions I received from Billy Ayers was that the bombs to be used in Detroit must have shrapnel and fire potential.”

Ayers: Not true. Not true.

Freep.com: And you’ve never heard those allegations before?

Ayers: No. Not those. I’ve heard a lot. But I try not to watch Fox News too much because I think it’s poisonous.

* And Billy knows this . . . how?

h/t Hot Air Headlines

I’d just like to add that he ought to retain Joe Conason to help him sue Grathwohl in the UK.

The almost equally curious incuriosity of Eric Holder:

In his hearing testimony, as in 2001 when Congress investigated the scandalous Clinton pardons, Holder’s feeble explanation for the central role he played in the Marc Rich pardon was that he didn’t really know who fugitive financier was, and never took the time to inform himself, when he was approached to intercede on Rich’s behalf.  In his follow-up questions (question 1b, specifically) Sen. Arlen Specter, the ranking Republican, probed Holder’s claim of ignorance:

Specter:  Did you receive information about the facts of the Rich case from anyone other than Mr. Rich’s attorney, Jack Quinn?

Holder:  No.

Oops.  Evidently, that time in 1995 when Holder (then U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia) had his office sue one of Rich’s companies for concealing its relationship to Rich in order to obtain $45 million in government contracts must have slipped his mind.

Mission accomplished?

House GOP leader John Boehner’s office reports that the left-wing voter fraud/illegal alien/housing entitlement racketeers at ACORN “could get billions” more in federal taxpayer funding from the Democrats’ stimulus bill.

Because nothing stimulates the economy like fewer babies and more registered voters.

NB: Despite all appearances to the contrary, this post is about women who want to become firefighters in San Francisco

60 Replies to “The Remarkable Incuriosity of Bill Ayers [Dan Collins]”

  1. Sdferr says:

    Well. Poisonous. At least it’s not abombinous.

  2. Techie says:

    Well then, Bill Ayers said it, I believe it. Matter is closed.

    (BTW, Happy New Year)

  3. SarahW says:

    A narcissist like Ayers would never google himself. And I doubt any of O’s people would have had any reason to mention the allegations.

  4. SarahW says:

    Memory is a motherfucker, though. Maybe he just forgot.

  5. Techie says:

    Forget any part of the Obama Campaign.

    The city of Chicago put a guy whom had credible allegations about plotting to blow up a police station, (disregarding any other actions taken by the Weathermen) against him “in charge” of distributing scores of millions of dollars, nominally to education, and NO ONE had ever asked him about them?

    Either:

    A) He’s lying.

    or

    B) Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the vaunted Fourth Estate and their eternal quest to speak Truth to Power! Also, City Hall, take a bow.

  6. Mr. Pink says:

    So he was never asked these questions that is hilarioius. Almost as funny as O! never being asked which of Rev. Wright’s racist sermons he attended and if he ever told his kids the racist rants were “not the Rev. Wright I knew”.

  7. Carin says:

    Foxnews, Rush … keywords to the minions. Kinda like how thor uses Palin. It’s a scapegoat to answering the question. Don’t use facts to disprove an assertion ( because your prolly can’t), just plead the Fox/Rush defense. Kinda offtopic, but related:

    With nobody to blame, i.e. Bush or a Republican Congress, Obama needs a scapegoat, a way out, a “get out of jail free” card. . And unlike these small morsels he has thrown to his ObamaBots in his first week, the financial issue will fall squarely on his shoulders, despite attempting to blame Bush for “…eight years of failed Bush policies”.

    Who better than a pudgy Republican radio show host to be able to blame, should Obama not be able to get his “package” passed. Obama will accept no responsibility for failure in any way.

    Ayers invokes Fox News the same way Obama uses Rush. It’s the cue, pre-loaded with a an entire of meaning to those on the left. Can’t argue on facts? Call someone a dittohead. Don’t like the news? Say you heard it on Fox.

    It’s tiresome.

  8. Techie says:

    It’s only a matter of time before Congress decides to just cut a check to the DNC and skip the middle-man.

  9. geoffb says:

    So “Rush” and “Fox News” are the new “Racist”.

  10. Sdferr says:

    So ACORN has a sugardaddy, anyone who didn’t see it coming had their eyelids glued shut.

  11. daleyrocks says:

    “Memory is a motherfucker, though. Maybe he just forgot.”

    SarahW – Just ask Scooter Libby.

  12. Darleen says:

    Other parts of the interview is interesting as it proves again what a moral monster Ayers is:

    Freep.com: You don’t think there is a distinction between domestic bombings … that hurt real people, and John McCain executing a mission over North Vietnam? Is there any difference in kind between those two acts?

    Ayers: There is no difference in kind between killing of any human being. Any killing of any human being is a universe lost. Let’s be clear.

    If we sat on a stage with Henry Kissinger, Robert McNamara, John McCain, John Kerry, Bob Kerrey, me and whoever else you want to put up there … George Bush. And then you could measure responsibility. And I’d be happy in that context and that company.

    Freep.com: They are more guilty than you are?

    Ayers: You think so? That’s what I’d love to see. Henry Kissinger is responsible for the death of millions. I’m responsible for the death of no one. Does that distinction not seem to matter? In other words, why am I held up as an example of something beyond the pale. Whereas Kissinger, hey it was normal. He was the secretary of state … Yeah, he was the secretary of state overseeing an illegal, immoral, genocidal attack on civilians. That is terrorism, pure and simple.

  13. parsnip says:

    Darleen dredges up a year old story about female firefighters making all the L.A. macho men feel threatened yesterday and now we’re revisiting the failed propaganda of the extreme right from the last election?

    Live in the past much?

  14. Carin says:

    Try to be relevant snippy. I know it’s hard.

  15. N. O'Brain says:

    “Comment by Carin on 1/26 @ 9:44 am #

    Foxnews, Rush … keywords to the minions. Kinda like how thor uses Palin. It’s a scapegoat to answering the question. Don’t use facts to disprove an assertion ( because your prolly can’t), just plead the Fox/Rush defense.”

    Look, over there, a flying monkey!

  16. N. O'Brain says:

    Comment by parsnip on 1/26 @ 10:15 am #

    Look, over there, and intestinal polyp!

  17. geoffb says:

    “Yeah, he was the secretary of state overseeing an illegal, immoral, genocidal attack on civilians. That is terrorism, pure and simple.”

    The deconstruction of the English language continues apace.

  18. N. O'Brain says:

    “… Yeah, he was the secretary of state overseeing an illegal, immoral, genocidal attack on civilians.”

    But Pol Pot?
    Baby I’d lick HIS scrotum.
    -Bill Ayers

  19. Slartibartfast says:

    I’m not sure why fewer babies is such a bad idea. Can anyone help me out with this?

  20. Techie says:

    Someone should bring that up and then challenge Ayers to denounce the NVA and the “purging/re-educating” that went on after his side ultimately triumphed.

    It’s also morally retarded. It’s the same as having a knife held to your throat during a hostage situation, then demanding that the DA prosecute the sniper when he takes out the assailant.

  21. Carin says:

    Slart, I think Pelosi should be more forthcoming. Say what she means.

    Poor people should have fewer babies.

    Inner city folk on welfare should have fewer babies.

    Heh.

  22. Techie says:

    I find it laughable that Nancy “Grandma” Pelosi’s solution to the “terrible fiscal crisis in the state” is to have less future citizens/taxpayers.

    Yes, that’ll keep CA solvent. Less kindergartners in 5-6 years.

  23. Carin says:

    NB: Despite all appearances to the contrary, this post is about women who want to become firefighters in San Francisco

    Dan, I’m pretty sure this post is about abortion. At least, it would have been if Darleen had penned it. Author intent and all that.

  24. Dan Collins says:

    That’s easy for her to say, Carin. She represents a secure district.

  25. geoffb says:

    “I’m not sure why fewer babies is such a bad idea”

    From the article linked.

    “Meanwhile, some Japanese companies realize that their national interest actually requires there be some people around to populate their nation in the future are telling their workers, go home and make babies!

  26. Techie says:

    I’d also be tempted to ask which one of Pelosi’s five children she felt was the biggest drain on State revenue.

    (This is a woman who’s never even had to DEBATE an opponent in her Congressional election).

  27. Carin says:

    The funny thing is in the details:

    Well, the family planning services reduce cost. They reduce cost. The states are in terrible fiscal budget crises now and part of what we do for children’s health, education and some of those elements are to help the states meet their financial needs. One of those – one of the initiatives you mentioned, the contraception, will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government.

    So, if the population of schools go down, the NEA is perfectly ok with closing schools and letting teachers go in order to reduce cost? HA. That worked so well in Detroit, where the teachers cried that closing schools was all-sorts of wrong.

  28. Slartibartfast says:

    From the article linked.

    I doubt either country is going to be whittled down to a population that’s too small to breed without genetic problems. This is a completely separate issue from the stupidity of our respective business and political leaders, mind you.

  29. Dan Collins says:

    Well, at least parsnip will be happy when Catholics are excluded from the medical professions.

  30. Jeffersonian says:

    Does anyone else remember the passage in “Atlas Shrugs” with the hobo on the train? He had worked at a thriving manufacturer when an “enlightened” management came to power and ran the joint on socialist principles, where workers with larger families getting a bigger share of an ever-shrinking pie because of increased need. The hobo remarked how, before the enlightened management policies, everyone would be thrilled at the joy of the birth of a worker’s child, but afterward, each birth meant greater hardship. It got to the point that the workers “began to view babies as a farmer does locusts.”

  31. Dan Collins says:

    Jeffersonian, I have to say that if “Hidalgo” taught us one thing, it’s that locusts are good.

  32. Darleen says:

    Comment by Jeffersonian on 1/26 @ 10:56 am #

    Yes. And the “hobo” gets to the real motivation behind all the collectivist claptrap when he relates how Ivy used her power of “allocation” to punish those that didn’t lick her boots.

  33. geoffb says:

    We will have to agree to disagree on whether having fewer babies is good or bad. I do agree it is a completely separate issue from this “stimulus” bill’s worth.

    I think throwing billions at Planned Parenthood and Acorn are not in anyway a solution to what is being called our “economic problems”.

  34. Rob Crawford says:

    I think throwing billions at Planned Parenthood and Acorn are not in anyway a solution to what is being called our “economic problems”.

    But it is a good way to reward them for their loyalty to the Party, and to encourage their future loyalty.

  35. Matt says:

    The fact that this utter scumbag is so influential in Chicago politics speaks volumes about the Chicago political system.

  36. Slartibartfast says:

    We will have to agree to disagree on whether having fewer babies is good or bad

    Where I’m coming from is “scarce resources”, geoffb. I do get a little concerned when we’re even considering having the government decide who can have babies and who can’t.

  37. geoffb says:

    On the Rush and Fox news thing.

    I’ve said that Obama seems to be recapitulating the Clinton’s in a compressed time frame. It was over 2 years into his Presidency before Bill Clinton started publicly blaming Rush for bad things that happened.

  38. Techie says:

    Remember when someone in the Clinton Administration all but accused Rush of inspiring the OKC bombing?

    The man can take care of himself.

  39. Bob Reed says:

    Isn’t it odd that all of these erstwhile Brilliant! individuals are so remarkable incurious…

    And have such selectively poor memories!

    S’funny, don’t-ya-think?

  40. thor says:

    I bet Bil Ayers can beat up Rush Limbaugh.

  41. Sdferr says:

    The same Bill Ayers who needed the Chicago Police to get him from his front door to his car because he was afraid of Griff Jenkins? That Bill Ayers?

  42. bill says:

    I bet Bill (2 l’s) can’t beat up his witchy wife.

  43. geoffb says:

    “reward them for their loyalty to the Party”

    Loyalty to the Party, the well being of “The Party”, is in my view, the most important thing, trumping all others, in any decision made by Democrats. All other things can be thrown under the bus but not “The Party”.

  44. slackjawedyokel says:

    I bet Bil Ayers can beat up Rush Limbaugh.

    I’ll take a piece of that action. Ayers is the classic pussy; he gets others to do the dangerous stuff.

  45. geoffb says:

    “accused Rush of inspiring the OKC bombing?”

    IIRC, that someone was Bill Clinton in a radio interview.

  46. Dan Collins says:

    I’m pretty sure that Janet Reno must be a terrorist. I bet that’s why she hasn’t gotten a position in the Obama administration, yet.

  47. Sticky B says:

    I’d pay to see Bill Ayers take on Valerie Plame’s hubby in a cage match to the death.(can’t think of his metrosexual name right off hand.)

  48. Bob Reed says:

    I believe it’s Joe Wilson, StickyB…

  49. Carin says:

    Shit, I bet “I” can beat up Bill Ayers.

  50. […] Whoa!  A politician with narcissistic personality disorder? Two years ago, Blagojevich famously implored voters to ask what his election rival was thinking, and short of putting the governor on a couch, it’s impossible to say what’s in his head. But from what he’s heard, seen and read, Bohlen and others say they believe Blagojevich may have a narcissistic personality disorder. […]

  51. Jeffersonian says:

    Yes. And the “hobo” gets to the real motivation behind all the collectivist claptrap when he relates how Ivy used her power of “allocation” to punish those that didn’t lick her boots.

    They prefer to think of it as redirecting the thoughts of the unenlightened to a more elevated consciousness.

  52. thor says:


    Comment by Carin on 1/26 @ 12:19 pm #

    Shit, I bet “I” can beat up Bill Ayers.

    Yes, Carin, Ayers is a professor English (and Education) professor, so all you’d have to do to get a B+ is sit on the front row without any panties and scribble a dick and balls and call it a poem and… oh wait, you said “beat up” not…

    My bad.

  53. Old Texas Turkey says:

    Sitting in the front row with no panties is an apt description of your attendance here @ PW, Thor.

  54. Bob Reed says:

    Jeffersonian,

    It’s also another way to get people to vote in their interests

    Obama hates it when they don’t…

  55. Mikey NTH says:

    #36 Slart:

    Just for fun – I recall matoko commenting that foreign aid to Africa ought to be curtailed or ceased. This makes sense in light of your comment and Rep. Pelosi’s. With scarce resources, it makes no sense to expend them to lift others up, because then they would consume greater resources. Or allow people to have babies, which also would take up scarce resources. The better plan is to keep them poor – if not make them dead – thereby conserving resources for those who have already made it. Such as Rep. Pelosi.

  56. mojo says:

    Hell, my little sister could beat Billy Ayers like a rented mule…

  57. JamesA says:

    The Ayers stuff is compelling, and should form the basis of the 2010 and 2012 Republican campaigns for the House, the Senate, and the Presidency.

  58. Dan Collins says:

    I think maybe policies should do that, James.

  59. Barocky Horror Picture Showbama says:

    As a fairly pro-Obama, pro-Left person, I applaud your efforts to further marginalize the hard-Right in this country by associating it with such inane, irrelevant, stupid accusations and innuendos. I mean, *no one* ever cared about the Ayers so-called controversy, and no one ever will. Keep up the good work.

    And what makes this really funny is that you guys all know Obama never had anything to do with Ayers in the first place. So you’re *lying* in order to make yourselves look *stupid*. Priceless.

  60. Bob Reed says:

    @59,
    No one cared about the Ayers thing because no one really got to hear much legitimate reporting and analysis of his background and radical social and educational theories…

    If said information had been spread as far and wide as the prported Palin “I-can-see-Russia-from-my-yard” line, that was never spoken by Palin but by that effin’ has-been Tina Fey, as well as illustrating Obama’s lies about his relationship to Ayers, then things would have been much different…

    Gloat all you want now, but when the erstwhile messiah comes down to Earth, it won’t be pretty. Then you and the rest of the disfunctional malcontents on the left will revert to your normal state of spittle flying rage; directed at who exactly I couldn’t tell you…

    But I’m sure that Boooooosh! and Rush!!1!1!eleventy!!11!! will be among those being cursed

    Good luck with your New Chimperor, we’ll all need it…

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