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Joke on us, son [Dan Collins; UPDATED]

Joe Conason, last seen threatening anyone who said that Al Franken was trying to steal the Minnesota senatorial election with a libel lawsuit in the UK, explains the real reason that Holder suggested Clinton pardon Marc Rich, and it turns out that the Jooooos apparently made a Rich pardon a precondition for peace talks with the PLO:

Meanwhile the fugitive financier, as he is still known, has never returned from his lair in Zug, Switzerland, to the United States.* (The mainstream press never mentions that, either.) In other words, he has never used the pardon — perhaps because he would first have to pay up tens of millions of dollars he owes in back taxes, a condition set by Clinton.

Clinton’s decision is subject to harsh criticism in both substance and appearance, even by smart people who know the truth. But the pardon power exists so that presidents will be free to make such hard choices for reasons of state. As a lame duck, Clinton had no other means to induce his Israeli partner to take any risk for peace. All of this has been ignored ever since by the likes of Arlen Specter and the Washington Post — and was obscured once more because Holder didn’t want to start an argument with the Washington establishment, which forgets nothing and, even more reliably, learns nothing.

Meh. Considering how many live Palestinians they’re willing to give up for a couple of Zionist corpses, that may well be true, wot?

* I.e., Clinton’s policies have kept him in the box.

You know, maybe (if and when crisis monger Rahm Emanuel ever returns) Obama has a chance to thaw relations with Cuba, by swapping Guantanamo detainees for political prisoners. Win-win, right?

UPDATE:

Former FBI Director Louis Freeh said Friday that Attorney General-designate Eric Holder allowed himself “to be used” by the Clinton White House in the pardon process for then-fugitive financier Marc Rich in January 2001.

But Freeh told senators at Holder’s confirmation that Holder was nevertheless a man of “tremendous integrity” who “will never allow himself again to be put in that position.”

“The pardon of Marc Rich was a corrupt act,” Freeh said, but was not Holder’s responsibility. Freeh asserted that President Bill Clinton’s White House staff kept the FBI and Justice Department “in the dark” and “actively conspired” to ensure that nobody knew what pardons were being considered shortly before Clinton left office.

“The [Clinton] White House went to extraordinary lengths to deceive the attorney general, myself, the Department of Justice and everyone about who was on the secret pardon list. … I don’t think it’s fair to put that blame totally on Eric Holder,” Freeh said. “He takes responsibility, and he will never make that mistake again.”

C’mon, Louis, can you be more specific? The One seems to have a lot of respect for the Clintonians, bringing so many into his Cabinet and all. Dish.

50 Replies to “Joke on us, son [Dan Collins; UPDATED]”

  1. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    …”even by smart people who know the truth.”

    LMFAO.

    OMG! Acoording to this “expert journalist” (he has a degree!), even smart people know the truth!

    The Resurrection is truly at hand!!

  2. happyfeet says:

    I remember the PLO. That’s so 90s. Like Alanis and Skechers. I think they were gonna try to bring it back but they got distracted with the jew killin. Not focused people, these.

  3. happyfeet says:

    When I grow up I want to live in a UN refugee camp just like my dad and his dad and his dad. I’m goal-driven like that. Persistence is key.

  4. Pablo says:

    One day, son, all of this will be yours.

  5. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    Maybe someone should sue Conason in the UK for all the stuff he’s said about Bush.

  6. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “I remember the PLO. That’s so 90s.”

    Yeah, but Arafat looked good back then wearing that picnic table cloth thingy.

    I bet he even listened to Depeche Mode.

    With Jimmy Carter.

    Ya know, when not busy killing Jews and stuff.

  7. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “Maybe someone should sue Conason”…

    Or just get him to walk in front of Jim in KC or Pablo’s house.

    I’m pretty sure they’d fuckin’ shoot him.

  8. XBradTC says:

    Funny, I always thought the President’s pardon power was a “last chance” to check the awesome power of the state to prosecute people, and to set right injustices under the law.

  9. Bob Reed says:

    Of course!

    It wasn’t Clinton or Holder that wanted to pardon the scurrilous Marc Rich, and it had nothing to do with the “contributions” she gave Billy Jeff nor any of her persuasive personal, ahem, oral arguments…

    It was the Joooooooooooosss!

    Yeah sure…Like I would believe anything Clinton, Holder, or Joe Conason says now; conveniently years later…

    Sorry, no dice…The BS meter is off the charts in a way that only the Machiavellian machinations of Clinton or Obama could drive it!

    Kinda like a geiger counter would if sitting next to a kilo of unshielded pure plutonium…

  10. daleyrocks says:

    Conason is claiming that Marc Rich tried to buy his pardon idirectly through the Jooooos in Israel rather than directly from Clinton? Well that makes it SOOOOOOOO much better then!

  11. parsnip says:

    Rich did receive two honorary degrees from universities in Israel last year, Bob.

    ‘cuz of all the welfare he’s given to Israel over the years.

    Don’t be such a hater.

  12. Slartibartfast says:

    ‘cuz of all the welfare he’s given to Israel over the years.

    “Israel”, in this context, means “a couple of Israeli universities”. Just as “America” can be used interchangeably with “The University of Michigan”.

  13. roger h says:

    This guy sounds full of it but, it does bring up the point that sometimes inexplicable presidential pardons may have some kind of double plus secret national security motive underneath them.

    Problem is, we will never know the truth.

  14. mcgruder says:

    Slart, kills me to say it, but marc Rich is like a pretty major dude over in Israel. As in major check-writer. He is, to the Israeli govt. if i understand correctly, a guy whose calls dont get returned—-because he gets picked up by the third ring.

    I am dying. I pray that I do not have to back up parsnip again.

  15. N. O'Brain says:

    A Palistinean tragedy in one act:

    Act one:

    “There lay my father. And over there. And behind you about three yards.
    And over yonder. And up in that tree over there.

    Damn Joooooos.”

    Finis.

  16. Joe says:

    Al Franken was trying to steal the Minnesota election. Bring it on douchbag.

  17. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “Rich did receive two honorary degrees from universities in Israel last year.”

    To wit: “Israel, a Bass Ackward, Stupid Microcosm View,” by parsnip.

    NYT Book Review: “Touchingly brilliant, while touchingly touching…itself.”

    Public Review: “Uh…Stewardess! This book only has one sentence. Don’t you have a SkyMall or something?”

  18. B Moe says:

    Why would the Israelis give a shit if Rich was pardoned? It doesn’t affect them, and it seems not to affect Rich himself, since he still hasn’t returned here. His old lady, who lives and works here part time however, isn’t married to a fugitive anymore. I think she paid for the pardon during her many visits to the Oval Office.

  19. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    …”marc Rich is like a pretty major dude over in Israel…he gets picked up by the third ring.”

    Fine. If Mossad or Moses or whoever called in his pardon, I just wanted Clinton to say it. His ass looked suspect enough as it was.

    What?

    It was too hard to say, “Our Jewish friends want us to give this asshole a pass, and on the flip/side we get better interest rates in a few months?”

    I mean I would have been fine with that. Would have thought better of that jerk off, Arkansas horn dog, Rhode Scholar too.

  20. mcgruder says:

    yup, Lamont, well said. Sausage making and statecraft arent pretty.
    N’o Brain–that is very funny.

  21. The Thin Man says:

    OT – but I couldn’t resist this:

    “With still four days to go before the presidential inauguration the toytown revolutionaries of the Communist Party of Great Britain are the first ultra-leftists to publicly name Barack Obama the world’s number one terrorist.”

    http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/quick-work/

  22. Bob Reed says:

    So what parsnip,
    They won’t extradite Samuel Scheinbein either, although he is charged with murder in Bethesda, Md…

    Here’s a news flash; Allies don’t always honor the legal wishes of their partners…

    Hell, he lived in Switzerland for years!

    And, a lot of Universities honor despicable people…

    Obama’s alma mater, Columbia, invited dinner-jacket to deliver an essentially anti-US address in September 20007; and Obama defended Bollinger’s decision to do so…

    Just about any University would pay homage to a major donor. And as it was noted earlier, it wasn’t the government of Israel anyway…

  23. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    I guess with Obama & Hillary there’s no chance now of running the State Department through a sausage grinder, eh mcgruder?

    Of course that process would only render worthless pork fat, incompetence and shame.

    All of which are pretty greasy.

    But they taste sort of ok with depression, pickles & onions.

    [sigh]

    And he hasn’t even been sworn in yet…

  24. Alec Leamas says:

    I love that Conason’s trouble with the critics of a candidate for United States Senate is the First Amendment, and he says it pretty f’ing directly. New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, bitch.

  25. ginsocal says:

    “Don’t be such a hater.” You say that like it’s a bad thing.

  26. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    United States of Obama–

    First Amendment: Freedom of speech for me, but not for thee.

    American Response: Second Amendment.

  27. MarkD says:

    There is no recession in the firearms industry.

  28. parsnip says:

    How many crackers will wind up drunkenly killing a family member or themselves with the guns they done bought?

    2nd amendment = Darwin at work.

  29. how much more racist can parsnip get?

  30. happyfeet says:

    We have to figure out what to do with lots of guns what are in the house in Texas. Pretty sure if I bring them back to Los Angeles that would be sort of legally touchy. But a lot of them are very pretty.

  31. happyfeet says:

    Shiny. oh. Also there’s a smallish loaded pistol in the toy chest in the attic what has all the toys we used to play with. Not really sure about the story on that. But you would have to remember that if you got that toy chest down for the niece and nephew people. Gun safety and all that.

  32. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “How many crackers will wind up drunkenly killing a family member or themselves with the guns they done bought?”

    How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?

    Beat feet jackass.

    You are too short/ stupid to ride this ride.

  33. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “Shiny.”

    You are so a Firefly fan.

  34. Mr. Burress could not be reached for comment…

  35. happyfeet says:

    More a Joss fan, really. Dollhouse… when is that one starting?

  36. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “We have to figure out what to do with lots of guns what are in the house in Texas.”

    As a Texan, I vote you leave them here.

    There’s room in my gun safe.

    Plus, I enjoy scaring the hell out of the neighbors.

  37. happyfeet says:

    I think so. There will be storage units involved I think. And it might be that I’ll move back to Austin some day, what with California not proving to be a viable state and all.

  38. Jeffersonian says:

    I think I’d like to watch the coming shitstorm in California, but I have a hunch O! is going to bail their spendthrift asses out, thus putting off the day of reckoning for a bit.

  39. Mikey NTH says:

    Oh – Haps. Sorry to hear about all that storage unit stuff.

    My sympathies on every level – for the dealing and the (I guess) why for the dealing.

  40. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    “More a Joss fan, really.”

    Dollhouse?!

    Holy crap, hf. I thought I was the only one around here that reveled in the genius that was “Doctor Horrible.”

    And Firefly.

    And the brilliance that will be Dollhouse.

    Fine. “Buffy” was OK. It’s just the name. Fucking “Buffy.”

    (Oh…and the Astonishing X-Men, 18 Issue Story Arc)

    Feel free to dis-associate yourself from my flagrant high-powered dorkness.

    But that Whedon dorkness is akin to “Sex Panther.”

    By Odion.”

    56% of the time, it works all of the time.

    That’s a fact.

  41. happyfeet says:

    Thank you Mikey.

  42. happyfeet says:

    oh. I still need to read that last season of Buffy comic thing Joss did. This year. I’ll make a point of it.

  43. Bob Reed says:

    Firefly rawked…Coming from someone that doesn’t watch too much TV outside of news, documentaries, and aircraft pron…

  44. Spies, Brigands, and Pirates says:

    I thought I was the only one around here that reveled

    Really? If I’d been guessing, I’d have figured this crowd to be hardcore Whedon geeks.

  45. Carin says:

    ally? If I’d been guessing, I’d have figured this crowd to be hardcore Whedon geeks.

    Love Whedon. I hope Dollhouses is as good as we’re anticipating.

    I still get weepy about Firefly…. THERE IS NO JUSTICE IN THE WORLD.

    ok, I’m better now.

  46. Rusty says:

    #33
    Me too. Got the series and Serenity on Blue Ray.

  47. Slick Willie C says:

    “Hey Joe. One question I’ve always wated to ask and didn’t feel comfortable doing so until……..here recently. How’s my ass taste? And does it taste better or worse as you work your away up the taint towards the back of my nutsack. Oooohh stop and work right…..there….for a while. Yeeeaaahhhh! Now the whole thing……”

  48. eaglewingz08 says:

    He won’t be able to make that mistake again if he’s not approved as AG. However Holder hasn’t appeared to have learned any lessons given his subsequent corrupt behavoir with Blago of Chicago. I mean, really, do we want another, well, he was in an uncomfortable position so he just went along for the ride? Do the libs really want to marinate in the hypocrisy of having a truly politicized Justice Department after years of decrying the Bush Administration for its non existent ‘politicization’ of DOJ?

  49. onion says:

    But Freeh told senators at Holder’s confirmation that Holder was nevertheless a man of “tremendous integrity” who “will never allow himself again to be put in that position.”

    “OJ is a man of tremendous integrity who would never allow himself to be put in position to kill Nicole Brown Simpson… again.”

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