Ed Morrissey whales on them hammer and tongs this morning–just like a cetaceous smithy–and God knows they deserve it. From Fox News:
The United Nations agency that administers a school in Gaza where dozens of civilians were killed by Israeli mortar fire last week has admitted to employing terrorists to work at its Palestinian schools in the past, has no system in place to keep members of Hamas or Islamic Jihad off its payroll, and provides textbooks to children that contain hate speech and other incendiary information.
A growing chorus of critics has taken aim at the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) in recent years, although momentum on Capitol Hill has been slow. But last week’s incident, which Israel maintains was prompted by Hamas operatives firing mortars at Israelis from a location near the school, has prompted some lawmakers to scrutinize the U.N. agency.
Hitch pens a letter to Obama regarding foreign policy
Iran’s getting a little desperate about their proxy war
Related, but slightly O/T:
But, but … Carol Browner (our new “energy czar”) has great hopes for the UN. The UN is to rule our New World Socialism:
Yea … let’s strengthen the UN. What a great idea!
I’m really starting to wonder who actually won WWII and the Cold War.
The UN plays the global version of the identity politics, PC phoniness, multi-cultural game that the Democrats do here at home. They publicly wail and hand-wring about the Israeli’s actions in Gaza, especially when their school is struck; all the while knowingly facilitating known terrorists and their institutionalizing of anti-semitism and anti-westernism…
But should you point out the simple fact that Hamas started this latest round or some of their despicable tactics, then you become the HATER!…
It’s the same old story…Just like no member of any sainted minority victim group could possibly be racist, so too no Palestinian can be an anti-semite terrorist…
It’s just their culture, man!
Apparently the Russian aristocracy, because the Commies wouldn’t have so many czars hanging around.
Wow, Special Ed and Fox News together?
Tall about wingnut fabulous.
As if anything could excuse an army that knowingly fired on two schools full of children.
Talk abut sociopaths.
When you’re part of the over-class that takes part in the UN skimming, that profits from the corruption and enjoys the perks that go with being part of an extra-legal organization not answerable to anyone, I’m sure it does sound like a great idea.
Isn’t this the organization that was involved in funnelling billions of dollars to Saddam during the Oil for Food debacle that he would use to build palaces while his people starved? Yeah that UN.
I’m not keen on much of the UN and its agencies in general but I do think that they are not all “created equal” so to speak, but that some are more worth having and better behaved than others. At least I think reasonable arguments can be found for the preservation of some of them.
UNRWA, on the other hand, is the very worst of the lot and ought to be abolished. It has been the worst for decades but gets little attention when there isn’t a war going on.
The UN, for over sixty years, working, toiling away, at receptions and parties the world over, to spread misery and suffering, in fair and equal measure, to all the proles. They need our support in this most worthy endeavor.
The UN doesn’t have any class. They’re really sort of just a trashy organization. It would be nice I think if they just sort of went away.
The UN is a lot like the UAW I think. You don’t want your family involved.
I’m really starting to wonder who actually won WWII and the Cold War.
We did. The question is, who are we? If you gaze into the abyss…
The tactics of Hamas are to attack, provoke a reaction, fight a bit, get the international community to get the Israelis to lay off, and then declare victory. This has worked in the past.
However, what if the Israelis just ignore the international community? What would actually happen?
(1) The Arab nations and those muslims overseas may protest, scream, march, and burn Renaults, but they aren’t actually going to do anything to help Hamas – certainly nothing like actually declare war or take a hit for them.
(2) The European nations aren’t going to hate Israel any more than they already do if Israel ignores them, and listening to them hasn’t made them like Israel any more in the past; and they certainly aren’t going to actually do anything to help Hamas.
(3) The Israeli left and peace movement is sitting this one out.
In other words, no one is going to do anything if Israel continues to pound away on Hamas. No one cares enough to do anything more than cry some crocodile tears and scream about the Jews – which they will do anyway. So Israel may as well beat on Hamas like it owes them money.
No one else was willing to die for Abyssinia – no one else will be willing to die for Gaza or Hamas.
Is it really “whales” on them? Like an orca?
I’d always thought it was “wails” on them, like screaming.
Really, DDGR.
what if the Israelis just ignore the international community
Then all the welfare Israel receives from American and European taxpayers will get cut off?
The U.S. is going to withhold $1 billion because the continued growth of illegal Israeli immigrants sneaking into the West Bank.
It’s a start.
The other day somebody, Reynolds I think, linked to a typically brain-dead NYT editorial in which the writer asked, “Are the Israelis trying to educate Hamas, or eliminate it?” He then maundered on for the usual couple of thousand words without either answering his own question or providing readers with any insight that might lead to an answer.
Clearly it never occurred to him that an answer might exist. Like monkyboy and much of the Left, the writer assumes that the whole thing is futile. “A, but B is an acceptable consolation prize” never entered his mind.
Regards,
Ric
The UN consistently perpetrates the kind of open, bald-faced evil only seen in cheesy Bond villains. UNRWA? The nation state members of their “Human Rights Commission?” Cracked Magazine couldn’t make that shit up.
I don’t despise the UNs existence so much as their grubby, diplomatically immune “Dr. Evils” concocting one after another, rubber stamped atrocities from a building on American soil.
You want to rape little girls in the Congo? You want to fondle Hamas under the table? Kill Jews? Make money off the slaughter in Sudan? Oil for Food?
Fine. Obama (and Bush too for that matter) aren’t going to do a damn thing about it. We’ll even give you our citizens tax dollars.
But, get the fuck out of New York.
Go be evil somewhere else.
I hear France is nice.
League of Democracies anyone?
A booby prize, ric?
Kinda like all the Sunni terrorists groups the U.S. military has on its payroll in Iraq.
Including, ironically, Hamas in Iraq.
Wonder if any of that money makes its way back to Gaza?
My company didn’t buy the UN holiday cards this year that they’d bought every year.
That’s all I got.
“Then all the welfare Israel receives from American and European taxpayers will get cut off?”
Israel has a thriving free market economy you igit.
The “American & European (& Israeli) welfare” goes to Hamas & Fatah.
Try and keep up.
America represents roughly 30% of the foreign aid to Palestine. Israel makes up almost 40%. All Arab nations combined (including the Saudis) make up a whopping… 7%.
Real big cause for the caliphate eh, snippy?
If Hamas laid down their arms today, there would be peace tomorrow. If Israel laid down it’s arms today, they would be slaughtered to the last woman and child tomorrow.
Israel has a thriving free market economy you igit.
Don’t be silly, Lamont, Israel is more Socialistic than Norway.
And more corrupt than Zimbabwe.
And now that it has banned Arab political parties from running in the upcoming election, it isn’t even a democracy anymore.
Time for the U.S. to cut off the welfare to Israel.
We have our own problems.
Do Not Feed The Energy Creature, Lamont.
It’s hard to rouse the rabble when they’re well-fed.
Another day at the salt mines for snippy.
How much is Soros paying these days?
Israel has a thriving free market economy you igit.
Precisely. The “aid” snip refers to is for one thing and one thing only…to arm the Israelis. A significant amount of that cash ends up back in the hands of U.S. and European defense manufacturers…although they do make their own small arms.
The money distributed via UNWRA, on the other hand, mostly ends up buying Kalashnikovs and dead Jews.
So I say we stop giving cash to the Israelis juuuuust as soon as the Lower Manhattan circus stops handing it to the Palestinians.
“And more corrupt than Zimbabwe.”
Ain’t it cute how anti-semites pull shit out of their asses to smear Jews with?
What’s next, alpo, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion?
I expect the screaming from the UN, the marchers in European capitals, and in university faculty lounges world wide to increase in volume if Israel doesn’t folow the rules of this kabuki show as it always has. And I look forward to the desperation on the faces of the diplomats, youths of undetermined origin, and professors as they realize their screaming is as impotent as the League of Nations.
They can scream all they want, but none of them are actually going to do anything else to help Hamas and the Palestinians.
Haha, No Brain,
Any citizen of Israel will tell you their government is hopelessly corrupt.
Please do continue to devalue the word “anti-semitism,” though.
People like you and Darleen have rendered it as meaningless as the term “fiscal conservative.”
Ignore the troll.
Let it screech its hate into the void.
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Haha, No Brain,”
Still can’t spell, I see.
“Any citizen of Israel will tell you”
Is that like “some experts say..”?
“their government is hopelessly corrupt.”
Sure, snippy, just keep pulling shit out of your ass.
“Please do continue to devalue the word “anti-semitism,†though.”
No devaluation at all, alpo. I look into your ugly gnome-like face and see the shriveled soul of raving, rabid anti-semite. The brown shirt and the teeny little mustache drawn with your own feces is kind of a dead giveaway, too.
Shriveled soul, No Brain?
How about you poor, rabid right wing extremists whose dogma forces you to defend the deliberate killing of children.
I’ve watched in amazement as the “conservative” movement has slowly slid into the amoral mess it is today.
It’s easy to see the steps, the things your leaders forced you to defend:
George Bush’s cowardice
Illegal wars
Rush Limbaugh’s drug addiction
Massive budget deficits
torture
John McCain’s adultery
etc., etc. etc.
And now you have become so twisted you’re rabidly defending the open slaughter of children.
For what?
ill
*yawn*
HATE!!!!
WARR!!!!
EBIL!!!!!
ELEVEN!!!!!
parsnip, you retarded shitstain, you really need to stop getting all your “information” from al-Reuters. Repeating their propaganda only makes you look increasingly stupid-a feat I didn’t think was possible.
Goodbye to yet another thread…..
I’m slowly coming to the opinion that parsnip is parody.
Can anyone cling so desperately to discredited talking points and be that obtuse without specific intent? I mean, really. Rush’s drug addiction? Really? And he’s one of our “leaders?”
Well played.
Me no feed troll no mo’.
(I realize you can’t fix stupid, but can I still point and laugh?)
Then let’s do get back on track.
Who’d Obama tap to be his U.N. Ambassador?
What’s Hilary’s “plan” for “embracing” “diplomacy”?
Who do we have to kill to get someone in the
Democratic Propaganda DepartmentMSM to ask Obama or Clinton anything about the U.N. employing terrorists?Does it strike anybody else as absolutely silly that number three on Parsnip’s list is Rush Limbaugh’s addiction to pain killers? Seriously???
Andrew, your topics are almost as depressing as snippy’s rants.
Here’s a question: What’s everyone going to do on the 20th? Watch? Party? Drink?
Does it strike anybody else as absolutely silly:
that number three onParsnip’s listis Rush Limbaugh’s addiction to pain killers?Seriously???FTFY
“Watch? Party? Drink?”
Yes.
Andrew, all the vast multitude of UN “Ambassadors” (seven-headed, horned, whore-beasts of the apocalypse) really need is one night in a prison cell with John Bolton’s mustache.
Well, that and more cowbell.
My school is putting aside class time to watch the Transfiguration of O! on Tuesday, so I’ll be drinking early, methinks.
The only plus side is going to be reading the yearly MLK Op-Eds and watching the elasticity expand as they stretch to talk about how even Though we’re Inaugurating a Black President Tommorrow, There’s Still So Much To Be Done.
After that, it’s go time. Barack Earl Delano Jefferson Kennedy’s reign will be long remembered, I have no doubt.
John Bolton’s Moustache swings, baby.
Actually, Nan, what strikes me is that alphie’s list only makes sense within the left’s fantasy world. Bush’s “cowardice”? The guy flew a freaking jet! He was training to take on Soviet bombers flying out of Cuba! If that’s cowardice then the word truly has no meaning!
I’m unaware of anyone who “defended” Limbaugh’s addiction. Perhaps defended his rights, defended his humanity (as in, the reality that he, like anyone, is imperfect), but not the actual addiction.
And, yeah, that’s a rather trivial item for a list that purports to show how “corrupt” an entire intellectual/philosophical movement has become.
I guess, if anything, alphie’s the prime example of what happens when you abandon intellectual honesty. He’s gleefully redefined words and made fictional claims, all so that the world he sees around him conforms to the little bubble of his self-proclaimed purity.
I almost would agree with ginsocal, that tuberhead is working for his “Thor Memorial Brain-dead Moron Parody” award. But somehow, I don’t think so. I think this dickweed actually believes this crap.
Let’s see now…
George Bush’s cowardice
“Cowardice”? In what respect? I know this; anyone who could fly a F-102, and live to tell about it, has balls that have not been counted yet, certainly more than alpo has.
Illegal wars
Another leftwingnut wet dream. The war was perfectly legal, as it was signed off on by Congress AND the UN. Not only that, we WON the fucking war. The country is being turned back over to the Iraqis right now.
Rush Limbaugh’s drug addiction
What this has to do with anything, I can’t imagine. Limbaugh did not keep this a secret, nor was he by any stretch alone in having this problem.
Massive budget deficits
Read the Constitution, dickweed. Congress is the body that does the spending, not the President. And let’s not forget that your Commiecrat pals have been running the show in Congress for the past two years. Deal with it, Ass-boy.
torture
Still another leftie lie. Nobody was tortured, and I don’t give a damn what that stupid cunt said the other day. Making some muzzie terrorist pig-sucker wear panties on his head is not torture, nor was anything else listed such. Torture is severe beatings, electric shock to the genitals, broken bones, things of this nature, NONE of which was EVER done to the muzzies. Again, deal with it, bitch.
John McCain’s adultery
Huh? What adultery? Boy, you have been spiking your Kool-Aid again.
etc., etc. etc.
Blah, blah, blah (insert other assorted wingnut lies here).
Better luck next time, alphie.
“And now you have become so twisted you’re rabidly defending the open slaughter of children.”
Pray we never meet, monkeyspunk. You’ve got an ass beating coming for this one.
Go to work, put in a day at the office, head home and pass the evening, possibly talk to the Librarian, then head to sleep.
No different than any other Tuesday, and there’s no reason it should be.
Depends on who wore them last, doesn’t it?
Things to do list: January, 20th
Hoard bottled water
Slap a liberal
Box up MREs
Slap a liberal
Stock ammo
Slap a liberal
Dump my 401k & portfolio into a nice income annuity
And finally…slap a liberal
All to the tune of REM’s “It’s the End of the World as We Know It” looped on my IPOD.
Then all the welfare Israel receives from American and European taxpayers will get cut off?
Welfare? Okay, I’ve heard enough without responding.
parsnip, you bray on insinuating that the Israelis are some sort of parasitic drain on American taxpayers. Nothing could be further from the truth.
I worked for a private contractor, who supplied systems(I won’t elaborate which ones) for DOD satellites. Israel provided scientists, engineers and materials at no cost to our company, or the defense contractor. Our company was just one of thousands associated with the DOD. These satellites keep all of us safe, whether you approve or not.
Your understanding of the American/Israeli relationship is far too simplistic for your opinion to be credible, so give it a rest. The fact that our government can’t divulge how Israel earns the “aid” we give her, will soon be evident when PeBO continues our current policy.
On January 20th I will go home and go to bed.
If I can find out the schedule (not that I will try all that hard) and have the gas money and time, I’ll go the next day to wherever George Bush will be arriving, possibly with a sign saying something like “Never Mind, George, Ya Done Good.”
Regards,
Ric
The Obama soundtrack ( to be released on the 20th) has :
The CD features a dozen stars including Stevie Wonder, who contributed a totally new track called “All About the Love Again.†The single, destined to be Wonder’s biggest hit in more than a decade, is a sizzling fresh slice of R&B, very updated and ready to embraced in remixes, etc.
The other artists on the album include Maroon 5 with their own new track, “Pure Imagination (2009),†plus will.i.am from the Black Eyed Peas, Sheryl Crow, Lenny Kravitz, India.Arie, Melissa Etheridge, Usher, James Taylor, Jennifer Hudson, Death Cab for Cutie, Ozomatli, Robin Thicke, The Tony Rich Project, Wilco, Bebe Winans, rapper Common, Lionel Richie, and Melissa Etheridge.
Lionel Richie! I’m all over that shit.
“And now you have become so twisted you’re rabidly defending the open slaughter of children.”
No, you intestinal polyp, there is a difference between the deliberate targeting of woman and children, which is what the islamonazi barbarians do, and the accidental deaths caused by a civilized nation defending itself.
You are a morally stunted retard, alpo, and if you keep straining to produce antisemitic moral eqivelence like that, you’re gonna shit yourself.
Oh, oh, this is good.
“It’s easy to see the steps, the things your leaders forced you to defend:
“George Bush’s cowardice”
So, you flew F-102 jet fighters…..when exactly?
Your MOS was….what?
“Illegal wars”
WHERE? WHERE? I don’t see one around here. Neither Iraq nor Afghanistan nor the war against the terrorist mob calling itself “Hamas”.
“Rush Limbaugh’s drug addiction”
When did I do that?
[puzzled look on face, strokes chin]
Nope, never did that.
“Massive budget deficits”
When did I do that?
[puzzled look on face, strokes chin]
Nope, never did that.
“torture”
Ah, alpo, your just jealous, ’cause you have to pay big bucks to have that kind of college hazing done to you.
“John McCain’s adultery”
When did I do that?
[puzzled look on face, strokes chin]
Nope, never did that.
“etc., etc. etc.”
When did I do that?
[puzzled look on face, strokes chin]
Nope, never did that.
So, alpo, another post proving that you have more projection than the entire Krupp Armament Works.
What a maroon.
What a bafoon.
What a morally stunted retarded marmoset.
Correction:
A smithy is the shop where a blacksmith works, not the man himself.
That is all. Resume nonsense.
Shorter Snippy:
We terrorist-enablers love us some good ol’ Jew Hatred! Serve it up!
Ric, it certainly will be a good day to do something positive. I PTL that I homeschool my kids and won’t be indoctrinated at school and forced to watch/ celebrate.
Why are we talking about parsnip again? parsnip is dumb. parsnip’s posts are dumb. parsnip’s threadjacking is dumb. everything about him runs the gamut from Paris Hilton to Radio.
You know what’s dumber? Taking him seriously.
Stop sending the billy goats under the bridge.
That sounds about right.
TrollHammer. It works!
“Barack Earl Delano Jefferson Kennedy’s reign will be long remembered, I have no doubt.”
Darth Vader: “It will be a day long remembered. It has seen the death of Kenobi, and will soon see the death of the Rebellion.”
How ’bout that, huh? How’s that rate on the dork meter?
I got $20 bucks says Obama takes the oath while sitting in the Lincoln Memorial’s lap.
And takes his shirt off. (Reporters swoon)
And then chest bumps Chief Roberts.
Over/ under on whether he lips a Marlboro at the same time.
Let’s not go too far with the F-102 bit, ok? Dangerous plane, but near the end of its life-cycle (when GWB was learning to fly them) it was substantially safer than the early-on version.
Still more dangerous than anything we’ve got in the air now, but not NEARLY as dangerous as it had been.
“I find your lack of faith… disturbing.”
Tuesday, Jan 20:
1 Get up,
2 be grateful I live in beautiful California (despite the taxes!),
3 send an email to my sister in Boston, asking how cold it is. (Heh!)
4 Go to work,
5 Come home and walk the dogs,
6 Watch American Idol or play Mario Kart Wii; I haven’t decided yet.
Why, what’s happening on Tuesday?
It’s a new day! *:
As it turns out, Bush is going from the inauguration to Midland, where there will be a “welcome home” event downtown starting around 5:00 PM. Even if I could close the store early, there’s no way I could make it to Midland in time.
After the party, he will fly to Waco, then drive to his ranch. If I had any idea of the times involved, that would be (just) within my reach. First attempt at finding out gave nothing useful. Anybody? Bueller?
Regards,
Ric
I mean, honestly. Baracky needs a few tools in his chest to protect us from those terrorists.
Regardless of the quality of the jet, flying one is dangerous.
It’s a new day!
Gee, where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, me (and y’all).
“Still more dangerous than anything we’ve got in the air now, but not NEARLY as dangerous as it had been.”
Just out of curiosity, wha’d they do to make them safer? I remember being a little kid, and seeing those things “on a stick” at Sheppard Air Force Base. I thought they were just a stop gap between the F-86* and the F-4. I guess I can’t imagine anyone BUT ANG having to fly those things.
*I know the F-86 wasn’t an interceptor, but we hadn’t made that whole bomber/interceptor leap yet.
Here:
There’s more detailed information elsewhere, but life is short.
Ric,
I dunno about Midland (nothing out there but cactus, oil derricks, jack rabbits & football), but I know he usually stops and picks up fajitas from the Elite Circle Grill when he comes through Waco.
He’s always a big hit in Waco and usually stops and gives a few waves. Shakes a few hands, etc.
Don’t know about times.
…which, upon reflection, means this whole comment was pretty useless. Sorry.
Those are some good fajitas though.
Lamont: shorter to Slart’s comments —
Nothing was ever really done to the F-102 except development of procedures, and the control lockouts mentioned in the article. That wasn’t the philosophy in those days, especially at Lockheed. What Lockheed did instead was to develop the F-106, which is pretty much a lookalike at first glance but contains aerodynamic and engine-control improvements based on experience with the F-102 and is a much better airplane.
That was about the time the Air Force finally figured out that Johnson&Co. were going to keep screwing around making pretty stuff, and were anyway distracted by all the Top Secret work the Pentagon was handing them. It was also crystal clear that Convair (GD) was never going to make anything that wasn’t a big, heavy bomber in its bones, whatever its ostensible purpose. The Navy had figured the latter out long ago, and had the folks in St. Louis building the F-4, which was big, ugly, and overweight for what the AF wanted, but would do the job, and there was nothing else remotely close to the pipeline that would. The AF bought a bunch of them.
Funny bit, from my point of view: Every Phantom II ever made had the tailhook and reinforced landing gear needed for carrier operations. This made for a fairly continuous exchange of snark between Navy and AF aviators during Viet Nam.
Regards,
Ric
“Of the 875 F-102A production models that entered service, 259 were lost in accidents that killed 70 Air Force and ANG pilots.”
Sweet Fancy Moses!
So I guess the first thing the instructors taught were the friggin “ejection procedures.”
I get it though. I didn’t know you could retro-fit fly-by-wire in a jet that old.
PW: Learn something new everyday…and master those tough to spell curse words.
Is there anything this blog can’t do?
It’s interesting to note that Convair’s B-58 had pretty much the same problem with high angles of attack and compressor stalls as the F-102. However, the Air Force stills loves it’s delta wings and their loads of lift. Both the F-15 and F/A-22 have “deltoid” wing planforms (even though both still have separate tail surfaces) and can carry respectable loads as a result.
In any case, you still had to be sharp to fly the ‘102. Even with the control lockouts and procedural changes made, it was still a very unforgiving airplane. That Bush was able to successfully fly it without mishap says a lot about his flying skills. And NOBODY who is “dumb” gets to fly a supersonic fighter, I don’t give a good goddam who your daddy is.
“What Lockheed did instead was to develop the F-106″…
Lemme guess…that was one of Kelly Johnson’s babies?
Well, they really didn’t retro fly-by-wire into those old birds. The Delta Dagger was one of the first production supersonic aircraft ever and was quickly replaced as more was learned about supersonic flight. But to get into one of those things and bring it back with you and it in one piece took not only some big brass ones, it also took some brains. There weren’t the computer controls so the pilot was taking in all of the info from the instrument panel, his vision, and the feel of the aircraft and then making some decisions that if done wrong would leave him a burning smear of grease on a hillside.
definitely not a task for the easily flustered and the slow thinker.
“What Lockheed did instead was to develop the F-106″…
Lemme guess…that was one of Kelly Johnson’s babies?
***
No. Both planes were designed and built by Consolidated Vultee (Convair), later General Dynamics. Lockheed did end up buying GD’s fighter division, but long after the ‘102 and ‘106 had come and gone.
Tuesday, January 20:
AM:Take large main 3-legged dog to the Vet (he’s the only mutt I’ve ever known who has to be sedated and muzzled to get his toenails clipped). Bask in the glow of having spent 4 days in the Shenandoah Valley instead of Arlington, or anywhere near the Mall.
PM: Head back North up I95 towards Northern Virginia, against the grain of the traffic trying to get OUT of town. Bask in the glow of having spent 4 days in the Shenandoah Valley instead of Arlington, or anywhere near the Mall.
All day: Avoid any broadcast media.
“definitely not a task for the easily flustered and the slow thinker.”
But…but…George Bush is CHIMPYMcHitlerBurton. According to “expert journalists” he’s stupid. “Put doo-doo in the capsule” stupid. He couldn’t possibly have flown that thing.
“No.** Both planes were designed and built by Consolidated Vultee (Convair), later General Dynamics. Lockheed did end up buying GD’s fighter division, but long after the ‘102 and ‘106 had come and gone.”
Again, PW: Learn something new everyday.
**Thanks for not saying “No, stupid. It’s called Google.”
Me? Actually I’m grateful it won’t be J.S. McCain being sworn in. If we’re gonna get screwed, I’d prefer it to be by a inexperienced empty suit socialist with a flair for rhetorical platitudes than a crotchedy old Senator who lurvs him some liberal ass-kissing.
“If we’re gonna get screwed, I’d prefer it to be by a…empty suit socialist with a flair for rhetorical platitudes”…
Um…throw “crotchety old Senator” in there, and that’s pretty much John McCain to a “T.”
Don’t look at me. I was voting for the hot MILF, conservative Alaskan chick.
And, by default, that old white guy…whatshisname.
Wait…what?
You’re absolutely right, Cave Bear. Deepest apologies to the group.
I have got to shake this flu.
Regards,
Ric
Wow, does this guy nail the pw trolls:
“A common defense of error today is to say, with due indignation, “I have a right to my opinion!” Legally this is true, given that our First Amendment is extant. But as G.K. Chesterton once said, “Having the right to do something is not at all the same as being right in doing it.” There is no moral right to an immoral opinion — nor to one bred of emotionalism unconstrained by reason — nor to a deceitful one.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/01/the_artificial_reality_of_the.html
As a member of the Birch Society in proud standing, I’d just like to point out that squishes like Ed Morrissey are a little late to our “blow up the UN” party.
So you’re they one guy who reads “American Thinker” No Brain.
Mystery solved.
As for morals…they’re strictly Democratic party exclusives these days.
Rod “Fuckin’ valuable thing” Blagojevich, William “Cold Cash” Jefferson, and Charlie “What taxes?” Rangel could not be reached for comment…
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As for morals…they’re strictly Democratic party exclusives these days.”
Says the lying, amoral anti-semite.
Ya wanna rewind that, alpo?
William “BJs in the Oval Office” Clinton could not be reached for comment.
Robert “Grand Kleagle of the KKK” could not be reached for comment.
Barney “Use My House as a Gay Sex Bathhouse” was unavailable for comment.
Bill “Pay-For-Play” Richardson could not be reached for comment.
Looks like the Israelis have move on from blowing up schoolkids to lobbing shells into the local Red Cross hospital.
Anyone want to step up and defend them?
It’ll only cost you what’s left of your soul.
Eliot “which account has the ho money?” Spitzer was, strangely, unavailable for anything.
LOOK!! BUNNIES!!
USAirways flight crashes into the Hudson River.
Hopes and prayers.
Ted “Manslaughter” Kennedy could not be reached for comment.
“As for morals…they’re strictly Democratic party exclusives these days.”
Ah yes, how Hell doth quicken the pulse.
Bill “sorry about that Chinese Embassy” Clinton could not be reached for comment.
Guys, Democrats don’t believe corruption is immoral. It’s just part of the game to them.
Charlie “vacation villa” Rangel was unavailable for comment.
Al “Carbon Hypocrite Who Enriches Himself Off Gullible Dupes” Gore was unavailable for comment.
My soul is intact, monkyboy.
Especially compared to somebody whose position is “Fuck the Geneva Conventions and the Laws of War, blame the Jooooooooooooooos for the sins of the Palis.”
Regards,
Ric
Chris “hey, I got my special mortgage from the insolvent sub prime mortgage company” Dodd did not return phone calls asking for comment.
Carol “Hardcore Socialist Who Isn’t Above Enriching Herself Off Global Warming Hysteria” Browner was not available for comment.
“Comment by parsnip on 1/15 @ 3:09 pm #
Looks like the Israelis have move on from blowing up schoolkids to lobbing shells into the local Red Cross hospital.”
More anti-semitic lies from alpo.
Hey alpo, when you look in the mirror, do you want to throw up?
He has no soul, Mr. O’Brain, so there is no reflection.
No comment.
He must be off reading “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”.
Comment by BJTexs on 1/15 @ 3:20 pm #
HA!
I’m sure Republican Jesus will be very understanding of your blind loyalty to the IDF, Ric.
Very understanding indeed.
Wonder if Hollywood will make a movie about those brave soldiers lobbing bombs and artillery rounds into the civilian populations of Gaza from a nice safe distance?
“I broke a nail!”
Jamie “I Know Absolutely Squat About Housing or Mortgages But I Can Bonus Myself $75 Million Working At Fannie Mae” Gorelick could not comment.
“Anyone want to step up and defend them?”
Uh…can I be like Obama, and just vote “present?”
alphie “the VA Tech massacre was no big deal compared to civilian casualties in Iraq” monkeyboy won’t STFU even when nobody cares about his comments.
Hey, snip, isn’t high time you skedaddle on over to Gaza to show your solidarity with the Paleswinians? Chickenhumanshield.
#Comment by BJTexs on 1/15 @ 3:20 pm #
Stormbringer could not be reached for comment.
What the fuck is a “Republican Jesus”?
Anyone?
Another one of monkeyboy’s conservative cartoons playing in his head. Probably visualizes him with a beret, crossed bandoleers and a fifty cal.
“Wonder if Hollywood will make a movie about those brave soldiers lobbing bombs and artillery rounds into the civilian populations of Gaza from a nice safe distance?”
For any lurkers: alpo’s antisemitism seems to rotting his brain. The IDF is targeting Hamas terrorists, not “the civilian population”.
That is all.
Don’t bomb schools and hospitals are universal rules for all decent human beings to follow, kelly.
Still, it doesn’t surprise me to see what’s left of Reagan’s Republican party cheering them on.
The road to hell, one step at a time.
The funny thing is, it doesn’t do y’all a bit of good.
Looks like the Israelis have move on from blowing up schoolkids to lobbing shells into the local Red Cross hospital.
I think you’re talking about the UN HQ, and Hamas was using it as a fire base (likely with tacit permission from the UN).
You didn’t have time to get around to Jim “I wrote a shitty little book and sold 100,000 copies of which 99,950 were sold to powerful lobbyists” Wright? Well, it has been a long time since that one.
One wonders if alphie has a designation for Hamas suicide bombers. Are they “brave soldiers” deliberately targeting high casualty potential civilian targets?
Nah, probably just “freedom fighters” bravely expending their lives to raise awareness for the plight of the oppressed. We have no way of knowing because monkeyboy has never had anything to say about Hamas and their tactics.
Ergo, no soul, QED.
Don’t bomb schools and hospitals are universal rules for all decent human beings to follow, kelly.
The corollary is that you don’t use them for military purposes, a rule Hamas violates with nary a peep from anti-semites such as yourself. Only the civilized need obey civilization’s rules, eh?
What would you know about being a decent human being, snip? And why do you condone Pali terrorist bombing indiscriminate targets in Israel or suicide bombings?
“Comment by parsnip on 1/15 @ 3:31 pm #
Don’t bomb schools and hospitals are universal rules for all decent human beings to follow, kelly.”
Don’t use schools and hospitals to fire mortars and rockets and to snipe at your enemy is a rule of all decent human beings.
Meaning that Hamas are a collection of terrorist scum.
Whom, by an odd coincidence, alpo admires.
“Wonder if Hollywood will make a movie about those brave soldiers lobbing bombs and artillery rounds into the civilian populations of Gaza from a nice safe distance?
“I broke a nail!â€Â
No, no snippy. The IDF likes to confront barbarian terrorists face to face and fucking shoot them square in the grape.
And they’re pretty good at it.
God bless ’em.
There are these things called “books.” Most of them aren’t even written by JOOOOOS! (except that awful Bible thingy) They’ll explain most of it to you.
Book Reading Instructions for parsnip: left to right, top to bottom. Form groups of words together to make sentences.
See? It’s not so hard.
“Comment by BJTexs on 1/15 @ 3:34 pm #
One wonders if alphie has a designation for Hamas suicide bombers. ”
I think it’s “Honey”.
According to you, monkeyboy, the Russians won WWII. Any idea how many hospitals, schools and any other civilian targets they bomb in their “glorious victory?” So now you say that if the enemy is using schools and hospitals to store weapons and lob mortars at your own soldiers, they should just pack up and leave like good little “universalists.”
I know you think you have a moral position but you are blind to your own immorality.
Nice dodge , though, on the statement that only Democrats have morals, relentlessly buried.
Oh, I forgot that Hamas terrorist scum store weapons in schools, hospitals ans mosques.
You do realize, do you not alpo, that that is considered a war crime?
A real war crime, not one being screamed about by the cartoons in your head?
Why the fuck are all of you “arguing” with alphie? He’s not interested in what you have to say, only in goading you into saying it.
Stop feeding the fucking trolls.
Bush and Cheney are the only war criminals, Mr. O’Brain. Get with the program.
Oh and Hamas fires mortars from schools … wait for it …
FOR THE CHILDRENSES!!
But…I’m bored, Rob.
BJT: The Israelis, no worse than the Soviets.
Really?
No irony intended?
well, yeah, have you seen how cool they look?
Not surprised you missed the point, alphie.
It’s like rAAAAAaaiiin, on your wedding day
maggie channeling Alanis Morrissette? Now there’s a shocka!
Better git on over there and put a stop to that
genocidemess in Gaza, snip. Tell ’em Obama sent you. Watch out for bulldozers, too.Now git! You little terrorist simp.
Summary in 1,000 words.
The guys on the left are “war criminals”.
Regards,
Ric
Oh, Ric! That guy missed a great opportunity to punch up that cartoon. He should have subbed in “Jews” for “Israelis.”
That would have given alphie a boner, I’m sure.
No thanks, kelly.
I’ll stick to working on getting Israel off America’s welfare teat.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1055585.html
It’s a start.
Oh, STFU “Eagle Nest Tango”.
Good post at #75. The contrast between it (with many others here) and the mindless self-obsessed corruption that produced this next bundle of contradiction is striking:
“Rabidly” as opposed to civilized child-slaughter, one presumes, lacking any context conditioned upon reality. “Open” as distinguished by it being recognized, official policy of any State upon the earth to provide it’s organized defensive forces with such procedure. “Children” despite the reams of data exposing Hamas’ tactics with civilians. And that’s just deflating the external fallacies; the soulessness and obsession we can leave aside for the moment.
Surely this country won’t abide fools like this for long. Even it can’t survive them. Again: The contrast is striking; it’s one of men in who’s company this snot drinking misfit cannot stand even for a moment.
ah, I see we somehow hit the reset button.
don’t drown in your nobility, snip. How much $/milk has the PLO or its successors sucked off America’s teat, huh?
maggie: Would you brew up some nice herbal tea for Eagle Nest Tango? He seems put out today.
I Keeed!
I feel some of that anger, ENT, especially reading RINOs like Kathleen Parher and Colin Powell lecturing us that the only way we can win elections is to become “Democrat Lite” and throw away many of the very same principles that guided The Founders in forming our great union. This all with the backdrop of our Government now operating as the perpetual currency printing press with free candy canes for all, hearkening to a future where our chief concern will be “how the world feels about us.”. Principles be damned and all.
It’s tough not to scream for hours in murderous frustration.
It’s nothing personal but me I could go a spell without hearing from Christopher Hitchens. A sabbatical for either him or me. I vote me.
What’s the “principle” behind supporting the slaughter of children, BJT?
Can’t be a Christian thing.
Is it from the Confederacy?
That didn’t turn out so well.
What the fuck is a “Republican Jesus�
If I have it straight, it’s apparently a Mike Huckabee.
No, Ric, you’re pretty much a soul-less bed time narrative soldier. That story of the glory of FARC killers proved it. You’re a dupe, a go-along boy. Wind you up and you follow.
And isn’t that but just one of the major failings of the ever-decreasing in size redumblican party? Too happy to parrot their stories of good and evil that are reversed all for in worship of shiny gold coins. Never lift a finger. Never give a fuck. Never utterances of truth, but, rather, empty simple glorified stories. Brainless cowards with a holster full of excuses and lies.
And the decapitated children – it’s because they were LEftIsTs!!!
ask your friends in Hamas.
What is so tasty delicious yummy about this thread?
The scrump-dilly-icious irony that it is the UN who, in 1948, created the state of Israel and now is totally impotent in its current efforts to destroy it.
Those toothless, blue-helmeted hypocrites make me laugh with their hissy-fit resolutions prompted by scions of human rights like Cuba, Venezuela, Russia and Libya.
Snippy is desperately hoping that repeating the phrase “slaughter of
children” will make people forget that he is a terrorist supporting anti-semite.
We won’t forget.
To the rescue of Jew-haters everywhere flies Thor. The liquor store must have been open for business early today. Prepare for his mind-numbing idiotic prattle…
“ah, I see we somehow hit the reset button.”
I totally felt that. I mean, I was away far from the computer, but I felt it.
It was like a strong jab to the taint.
That shit made my eyes water.
No more hitting the “reset” button goddamnit.
I meant “far away,” not “away far.”
That shot to the taint has me typing funny.
wait.. wait.. I got a better one….
Farfur could not be reached for comment…
Israel has a socialist economy, you dumbtard projectile, you fuckin’ footstool. The average Israeli isn’t like you, meaning he/she isn’t challenged by a sock-and-a-shoe, you red state redumblican retard.
Go play with yourself again, thor. Go regale the inside of your head with predictable tales of anti-Russia Redumblican strawmen by the wagonload before you ride that act in here, child. Go play yourself some political Yanni.
Or go change the rings in the gleaming Norton of your mind, zooming off into the Amazonian sunset with your scarf smelling of your deep rebel musk while the girls wet their pants. You pathetic little bitch of a man. You imposter.
Do you imbibe your vodka straight, on the rocks, or with a shot of mescaline, thor? Maybe a few vicodins to ease the pain of the syphlis?
What’s the “principle†behind supporting the slaughter of children, BJT?
That it gives a good bloody shirt for Western friends of barabarism to wave in support of their goal of decivilizing the world. According to the NYT:
Hamas, with training from Iran and Hezbollah, has used the last two years to turn Gaza into a deadly maze of tunnels, booby traps and sophisticated roadside bombs. Weapons are hidden in mosques, schoolyards and civilian houses, and the leadership’s war room is a bunker beneath Gaza’s largest hospital, Israeli intelligence officials say.
Farfur could not be reached for comment…
I saw the martyring of Farfur. Pure comedy gold, though I’m sure the intent and effect were quite different within Gaza.
I don’t necessarily agree with parsnip, you knee-pad redumblican, but he’s entitled to his/her opinion without a taking shit from a bunch of halo-adorned pricks.
I guess the syphilis thing might be conjectural but considering your self-proclaimed prowess with all the Russian hookers, it seemed like a good guess.
Snippy has an opinion? Flinging his own feces would be more descriptive. Must be why you leap to this defense. Simpatico and all that.
“To the rescue of Jew-haters everywhere flies Thor.”
Lay off, man. Thor’s our better.
He had a hard day of currency trading.
One Quatloo for every $100 Billion Zimbabwe notes.
He got some Baht back in change.
He was only able to buy one loaf of bread with his earnings, but he got to kick a jew on the way home.
That’s the funny thing, Log.
A majority of Jewish Americans are against what Israel’s doing in Gaza.
Are they “Jew haters” too?
“Comment by kelly on 1/15 @ 4:08 pm #
don’t drown in your nobility, snip. How much $/milk has the PLO or its successors sucked off America’s teat, huh?”
Hell, how much hunaitarian aid sent by the Isrealis has been hijacked at gunpoint by your favorite Hamas thugs, alpo?
How much money did your favorite Hamas thugs extort from the smae civilians that your oh so tender consciencse aches for, alpo?
How much, you amoral, antisemitic thug?
Ignore the little shits.
Right, LYBD. All in all, a good day for thor since he seems to have hit the sauce early. Must have been the elation from the jew-kicking.
Comment by thor on 1/15 @ 4:14 pm #
That’s nice, thor, now go take your nice meds and have a nice long nap.
After George W. Bush personally ushered in Hamas, he gave them $400-million if my memory serves, prior to giving Hamas a speech full of well wishes.
GW Bush Teh ‘Tooopid! Israel wouldn’t survive another, nor could America. May a jumbo jet full of good riddance hit that man in the head.
Given that 9.5 out of ten over there agree with policy I find that interesting, you pustule.
‘Taint funny, Lamont.
That’s nice, P’brain, now go chug warm piss from your combat boot.
Here you go JHo, read what the majority of Jewish Americans (who aren’t crazy right wing extremists) are saying:
http://www.jstreet.org/blog/
Careful, that link is outside the cocoon!
I unnerstan da Pallies already all like burnin O! in effigy, thor, ya cheap election year date, ya bend-over-and-take-it perfeshnul, ya partisan bint, ya Democorrupt tailpipe sucker, ya predictable one note blower. Blue new kneepads, those? Come cheaper in the gross, do they? You drop your ration of skeptic back there someplace, ya ten-strikes-and-still-fannin’?
Plagaiarism, thorg.
Again.
Have you ever had an original thought in that STD rotted meat pudding you call a mind?
Y’know, our opinion doesn’t make a bit of difference.
The ones you’ve got to convince are the Israelis.
And it begins to look as if you’ve been once too often to that well, and are dumfounded when you come up dry.
The rule for the last sixty years has been: If the Jews survive, they’re guilty of war crimes. They have appealed to reason, and been rebuffed. They have appealed to Law, every jot and tittle of which is on their side, and been insulted. Only if they die can they be “good guys”.
It is possible, just possible, that they’d prefer to be alive to face the Court of World Opinion <spit> than dead. If that’s the case — and it’s looking more and more like it is — you may have many more opportunities to exercise your spittle-spewing outrage glands. Enjoy.
Regards,
Ric
I caught the BBC on the way home. A person from UNRWA was being interviewed about recent events in Gaza and, in particular, about Hamas firing from UN offices.
It was the usual: the vicious Jews are waging a genocidal war on all Palestinians, etc., etc. To hear the guy talk, you’d swear the UN had complete control of its buildings, that Palestinians are peace-loving types only interested in kite-flying and making daisy chains, and that the whole loving spoonful was being assaulted for no reason by bloodthirsty savages intent on dousing babies with Willy Pete.
Jeeeeezus! It was infuriating!
Of course, since the Beeb and the rest of the legacy media has turned Israel into a pariah nation that can never do any good, they’ve liberated the Israelis to do whatever they will. Ironic, that.
Nooooo, don’t go there, JHoward! Nothing outside of the cocoon! You’ll never be the same! Don’t Go!
thor, stop sockpuppeting.
You’re not fooling anyone.
I’m not in a read alphie place today. I miss Jeff. I hope he’s warm enough. It’s very hot here. Like Africa hot. Or Australia. Like in the Outback. With kangaroos and dingos. What shed everywhere.
You talkin to me snot-drinker? Or are you calling the Jews whose homes thousands of rockets fall on sociopaths to a man? I figure if that shit happened to me in my yard out or in the kid’s bedroom back I’d be like 94% against it.
Come on, misfit, get it out.
Well, excuse me if I hit a little nerve, Bob “The Bolshevik” Crawford.
Are you trying to silence me? Is that it?
—-
You saying all the Jews worrying about next door are sociopaths, snot-drinker?
Mighty snark that, JHo, props.
The only way this won’t be yet another wasted exercise in human suffering is if Israel eliminates Hamas once and for all, fully and completely. I wouldn’t care if they tossed the last Hamas remnants off tall buildings, just like Hamas did Fatah. Fuck ’em, let ’em fly.
It’s been at least 30 years since the Israelis were the good guys, Patrick
That’s not the fault of the press.
The one lasting memory from Israel’s 2006 loss to Hezbollah was the IDF running for the border, chucking illegal cluster bombs over their shoulder.
This current war will be remembered as the one where Israel lost all sense of dignity and started targeting children.
Not much further to descend for them.
“Israel has a socialist economy, you dumbtard projectile, you fuckin’ footstool. The average Israeli isn’t like you, meaning he/she isn’t challenged by a sock-and-a-shoe, you red state redumblican retard.”
Wow…you were totally whacking off while you wrote that weren’t you? I can hear the ‘fap-fap-fap(oh God… I think…no, I’m kinda sure…well maybe…. I’m sooooooo smart)”…
Mind you don’t pass out.
It’s socialist only to the point of fucking survival nimrod. If Canada and Mexico were lobbing missiles at us we’d be the same. (Supposing we gave a flying fuck about “international opinion”).
“redumblican?”
Thank you for that awesome time-machine trip to 2003.
GONG!!!
where do you get that they’re a majority?
The irony is, of course, that thanks to the unceasing efforts of idiots like Parsnip, more civilians will end up dead. Because Israel gets assigned the blame by the “international community” for the deaths of Palestinians used as human shields, Hamas has an incentive to use human shields. Because Hamas has an incentive to use human shields, they’ll keep doing so. Hamas has a goal of causing Israeli casualties, both military and civilian, and has an incentive to endanger Palestinian civilians, so they’ll keep fighting as long as they can.
Furthermore, since Parsnip and the “idiotnational community” castigate Israel for its attacks despite Israeli restraint, Israel has no real reason to show restraint. Would international reaction be any different if Israel was really trying to cause massive Palestinian casualties?
I don’t know whether to be happy or sad that one day one of these Islamic fundamentalist terrorist groups is going to take a step too far against a country that doesn’t give a shit about inflicting civilian casualties, such as Russia or China. Happy because it’ll be the last time that terrorist group does anything, sad because we’ll be able to see on the news what real civilian casualties are like. Heck, take a look at Chechnya after the Russians got through with it…
Answer the fucking question, snot-drinker. Put even a half a ball behind your premise that self defense is out of the question and pure unbridled murdering sociopathy is the explanation, you steaming mound of coward.
For real I think Palestinians are only useful if they’re suffering or dead. Happy thriving Palestinians would be useless to the UN and Europe and just about everyone what’s so fond of them I think. Good thing they know what side their bread’s buttered on. Savvy people.
Ric Locke @ 4:49 p.m.:
You said “The ones you’ve got to convince are the Israelis.”
I agree – my comment #13, at point (3). Even this part of Israeli society has become exhausted with the kabuki theater of the ‘peace process’, even they have become resigned that all Hamas and its supporters want is blood.
Hamas and its supporters want blood, so let them have blood – their own.
maggie,
You are aware than 80% of Jewish Americans vote for the Democrats every single election, aren’t you?
Y’all have alligned yourselves with an insane minority band of right wing extremists.
Oh, wait a minute.
That’s to be expected.
The only way the entire Mideast, sadly, won’t be yet another wasted exercise in human suffering is if the West eliminates radicalism once and for all, fully and completely.
Are those terms diametrically opposed or eternally mutually exclusive or occupying different planets in your mind, thor, or are they intrinsically and inherently linked so as to operate in consistent parallelism?
Answer the question, snotty.
Not you, thor, you other snot; snot-drinker.
Every time I read a comment by Parsnip, I just mentally replace it with:
“Despite my hysterical whining, I unceasingly work towards a world where more innocent people will be violently killed.”
I wanna know where I can sign up for the “thor level stupidity.” Cuz that sounds easy, and has got to be time off with workman’s comp.
I’ve checked DKos & DU, but there’s no straight forward, “pathetic thor-like bastard: Apply Here” link.
Seems like a lot of Obama run (excuse me, state run) psych clinics are missing out on a good demographic.
I thought about hitting the “parsnip/assclown” link, but that’s long term disability and I don’t wanna screw the taxpayers like that.
Not one Egyptian fighter has scrambled to stop Israel from bombing in Gaza. Not one regiment has entered Gaza to protect it from Israeli invasion.
The PA in the West Bank has done nothing to assist the Gazans.
Hezbollah is quiet.
Syria isn’t mobilizing armor to retake the Golan.
Jordan isn’t transiting troops through the West Bank.
Iran isn’t launching its missiles.
Talk is cheap; action speaks.
They don’t care about Hamas; they aren’t going to die for Gaza.
So much for the international community.
“…chucking illegal cluster bombs over their shoulder.”
You’re fantasy life is amazingly vivid, alpo.
Do you use LSD or something?
JHo, parsnip might be misguided but there’s an argument for restraint and if he/she wants to make it then allow it to be. Every conflict should have full debate.
Me, personally, I think Israel should clean Gaza out until it’s more docile than the West Bank. Then I think Israel should send G.W. Bush a greeting card stating “Fuck You Very Much.” Israel might send the same message to the E.U. and the U.N. but we’re not in control of those parties now are we? Bush fucked up, own it.
Force Hamas follow their spiritual leader to finality.
“Well, excuse me if I hit a little nerve, Bob “The Bolshevik†Crawford.
Are you trying to silence me? Is that it?”
No, we have the black helicopters to do that.
And they should be landing outside your house just….about…now.
MADE YOU LOOK!
So answer the question, parsnot. Say that Israel is populated with sociopaths, to the tune of nearly 100%, and that they not only support but make policy of murdering children.
Anywho, how in blue-hell does this get “Twilight Zoned” into Israel (wanna-be peaceful democracy) bad, Hamas (blood-thirsty, Islamic death cult) good?
I’m still waiting for that answer to “break” on CNN.
I thought these things took time, Mikey.
At least that’s what the U.S. military tells us about the hunt for Osama bin Laden.
A few more years, a few trillion more dollars, they might actually catch him.
No hurry.
It’s government work.
Oh shut up. Snot-drinker can’t spell restraint much less recommend it — this is Balloon Fence Boy we have here — and if he/she wants to make this a “debate” it’ll be the first time in years; the very first time ever, in fact.
Precisely because every conflict should have full debate is why snot-guzzler is out of order and you know it.
Oh, and ‘proportionate response’? Please see the Battle of Surigao Strait and the Battle off Samar. Proportionate response may have a place in the civil and criminal law of a country, but it has little place in war.
I made light of the fact that your mind rolls like an enormous tricycle with square wheels. Think you can man-up and deal with that without all the incessant ranting and stalking, dork? Try.
Does that mean Hamas will be justified when they light off a nuke in Tel Aviv, Mikey?
“At least that’s what the U.S. military tells us about the hunt for Osama bin Laden.”
Uh…woops. Didn’t you get the memo snippy?
http://thepage.time.com/obama-talks-to-cbs-katie-couric/
Spin that motherfucker for us, if you please.
Or just go away.
We’re fine with either.
There are at least two sides to every conflict and every debate. When there’s not there’s Nazis, all I’m saying.
*yawn*
Comment by Lamontyoubigdummy on 1/15 @ 5:42 pm #
Oh my.
O!bama agrees with President Bush.
Spin that, indeed.
There are at least two sides to every conflict and every debate.
To think, if I had only stayed in college I might be capable of such profundity.
Hamas wishes for war, they have it now. Why are they complaining?
And they wish for a war of extermination, according to their own charter. Why are they complaining now?
O!bama agrees with President Bush.
Does that mean Obama will deny Israel the welfare they need to carry out their suicide mission against Iran, too?
Good.
Except Israel’s taking out their frustration on children.
Bad.
“Comment by parsnip on 1/15 @ 5:53 pm #
O!bama agrees with President Bush.
Does that mean Obama will deny Israel the welfare they need to carry out their suicide mission against Iran, too?”
Those cartoons in your head are….fascinating.
I’d be interested in receiving your newsletter.
Go back and finish. Even if your professors don’t impress you all that young pussy probably will.
I suppose you could say they have to go with the war they have, not the one they wanted. But they have a war! Why are they complaining now? They have war. Time for that martyrdom and death they say they seek.
Why are they complaining now?
A lot of American Jews are sort of stupid I guess. At least half of them are below average, you gotta figure.
Because they tend to be educated and aware of the effects of war.
Nope, more thor’s height.
But that’s a tangent. I’m trying to express how concerned I am about the welfare of the Palestinian people. I have no words.
Where’s my coupons? I’ve been practicing my left hook!
The plight of the Palestinian people haunts my dreams. There you go. It might could be the Chantix though.
You think Israelis dumb enough to attack Iran without American welfare, No Brain?
Picture a few hundred American built, American taxpayer paid for IAF jets running out of gas somewhere over Iraq.
Are the Israelis really that crazy?
I don’t think so.
All their military operations seem to center around cowardice these past decades.
Seems to me the majority of these people are Democrats.
I am not an anti-Semite. I hate people what squat in United Nations refugee camps for generations is who I hate. I look down on them as inferior people. Because they’re really pitiful and debased. Ick. Not good house guests.
So’s the President-Elect.
Welcome back, ‘feets.
Also that Edward Said fella was really offputting.
Why did American Jews overwhelmingly support Obama and (yet again)the Democratic party?
Because Obama says he supports Israels right to exist and defend itself, I would suppose.
Hi, guins. Normal life is a lot underrated I think. I’m so happy to be back in my rut.
All their military operations seem to center around cowardice these past decades.
They aren’t the ones hiding behind schoolchildren, that would be your heroes.
Picture a few hundred American built, American taxpayer paid for IAF jets running out of gas somewhere over Iraq.
Picture Balloon Tankers, ‘nip.
[quote]”Anywho, how in blue-hell does this get “Twilight Zoned†into Israel (wanna-be peaceful democracy) bad, Hamas (blood-thirsty, Islamic death cult) good?”[/quote]
It’s partially due to the fact that Hamas is weaker than Israel, at least in terms of conventional military force. That makes Hamas automatically the underdog in international opinion. That coupled with the PR power on the Palestinian side from Islamists flush with spending money and corresponding geopolitical influence and from Western fellow travelers.
It’s easy for those of us in the West to say “stop causing civilian casualties” and harder to actually do something about it. It’s especially tempting for us to want everyone to just stop shooting now, and thinking that that will bring peace. But we have to think about the long term, and what’s going to happen down the road, especially in this case where one side doesn’t want peace. We know what would cause Israel to stop attacking in Gaza: a sincere effort from the Palestinians to rein in the extremists shooting at Israel. We don’t know what would cause Hamas to stop shooting at Israel permanently, aside from the destruction of Israel. It’s obvious that whatever it takes to stop Hamas is going to involve heavy doses of “stick”, because in the past, Hamas has taken the “carrots” and then continued fighting.
Partially, it’s going to require recognition from the International Community and the Palestinians that Hamas is responsible for deaths from its use of human shields. Until that recognition, the only downside to Hamas from fighting comes from the deaths of its troops. As such, anyone that blames Israel primarily or exclusively for the deaths of Palestinians intentionally endangered by Hamas only encourages Hamas to endanger more civilians. If you’re a Hamas fighter, why wouldn’t you use a human shield? For Hamas, dead Hamas + dead Palestinian civilian is better than dead Hamas. As long as that equation is true, Hamas will continue to cause the deaths of innocent civilians. It’s also going to require holding Hamas responsible for breaching cease-fire agreements.
“Why did American Jews overwhelmingly support Obama and (yet again)the Democratic party?”
Jewish Guilt. They get it from their Mothers.
And they’ll roll with it right up until people start yelling, “Jews go back to the oven.”
Ya know, like those fucking demonstrators in Florida a week ago.
After that they have a tendency to kill the people that have launched 6,000 rockets at them over 2 years of “peace” and “truce.”
Oh, Looky! Hamas is hiding in a UN School. Behind children…that learn from the age of 4 to be ruthless Jew murderers because the cute, “Martyr Mascot Bee” tells them so.
Lets give them a state.
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Hamas hhas a war, and the opportunity to be martyrs, to embrace the death they say they love.
Why are they complaining? They have what they want.
Seems to me the majority of these people are Democrats
I think the cat’s out of the bag on crap like this, Sdferr.
“Why are your views on Israel and Palestine so out of step with the American people?” will be frequently asked of Republican and Democratic Congresscritters from here on out.
Be fun to watch ’em squirm.
The Palestinians want to die fighting the Israelis. They want to die fighting the Jews. They want to be martyrs. Why are they complaining? Aren’t the Israelis, the Jews, giving them what they want?
Oh, silly me! They say they want death and martyrdom! They just want to kill Jews and the Jews are killing them back! That is the problem! If only those nasty Jews would get with the program and just die so that no one has to take those claims desiring death and martyrdom seriously!
silly me, I thought they were serious about all of that ‘death and martyrdom’! They were just using their mouths to cut checks their hides couldn’t cover!
Aeful bad when those checks come home, though.
Hamas is same as Iran. Just dorks, really. Hateful dorks, sure, but apart from people having to stop what they’re doing to counter their murderous dork intent it’s not like they’re somehow endlessly fascinating. Tedious hateful dorks. Baracky will probably very quickly become as apathetic about their pitiful tedious murderous dorkness as everybody else, and that’s going to be a big shock to them. You can’t really avoid the idea that you’re really sort of definitively hopeless when even Baracky isn’t interested in exploiting your tired pitiful squatter ass I think.
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erm, and so JStreet is the Democratic party? where does AIPAC fit into that? It’s just, I don’t remember Obama pandering to J Street.
As I said, maggie, the days of American politicians grabbing their ankles for Israel without paying a political cost are coming to an end.
It may take a while, like it took to teach you crackers about civil rights, but it will come.
“Why are your views on Israel and Palestine so out of step with the American people?†will be asked frequently of every American politician.
JStreet is just the beginning.
um, I don’t think J Street has quite the pull you think it does.
J Street fails to prevent Senate vote supporting Israel
but you keep trying to push that.
I mean, if they’re in the majority why doesn’t Obama agree with them? it is a puzzlement.
As I said, maggie, the days of American politicians grabbing their ankles for Israel without paying a political cost are coming to an end.
They will be too busy funding the defense of LA from the Great Chinese Shipping Container Invasion, no doubt.
WE ARE SOOOO POWERFUL CONGRESS IGNORES US!!!
BWAH HA HA HA HAaaaaa
wait… wait.. I know why it is. Obama will not be beholden to lobbyists.
*snort*
We can spend our way out of recession!
If anyone truly cared about the Palestinians as actual real live people, the Palestinians would have been given cash compensation for lost property in 1948 and then resettled. Many people who lost property in the time 1939-1945 were compensated and resettled.
The Germans aren’t returning to East Prussia, the Finns aren’t returning to western Karelia. They were resettled.
I suppose no one really cares about the Palestinians except as poster children.
Damn…happyfeet threw down.
Just sayin.’
That was friggin’ sweet.
I wonder what the penalty is in Iran for publicly calling Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a “dork.”
You probably don’t get stoned to death (that’s only for raped, er, I mean, “sexually active” 11 year olds…and gay folk…and Jews & gypsies). No, seems like a good old fashioned Iranian hanging would be just the ticket.
Who’s for “non-conditional” talks?
Yay Obama!
I’ll also note how you didn’t answer why you think J Street represents “a majority of Jewish Americans” rather than say AIPAC.
One thing the UN has well illustrated is that there is a fundamental problem in the definition of “nation state”. The entities that are recognized as such have vast differences.
Treating them as similar gives rise to problems that would not exist, except for the expectation, that because they have been defined as the same thing, that then they are the same thing and should be treated as the same, when it is obvious that they are not.
Oh, you’re just a silly, maggie! Alphie learned a long time ago to never actually respond.
Remember the balloon missile fence? And the Chinese container ship army?
After those two debacles he will never propose anything, he’ll just snipe around the edges. That the tactic doesn’t actually promote anything is irrelevant, but he is used to irrelevance for his ideas and opinions. Right now he is happy to receive counter-battery fire because it means that someone still cares enough to send something. Pizza, FTD bouquet, insults – it is all the same.
I know, I just like to see how fluffy the bunnies will be.
snippy – Are you supporting the use of women and children as human shield by Hamas? That’s what you are doing, right?
Are you supporting the conversion of schools, mosques, hospitals and government buildings into legitimate building by Hamas? That’s what you are doing, right?
“It may take a while, like it took to teach you crackers about civil rights, but it will come.”
The KKK is the terrorist arm of the Democratic party.
What was that you were saying about crackers?
wait… wait.. I know why it is. Obama will not be beholden to lobbyists.
Let’s just say Israel’s current military tactics are out of step with the incoming anti-torture President’s image, maggie.
And there’s no doubt he won’t be happy about Israel’s new applcation of Apartheid.
Who knows, maybe Israel can find a new sugar daddy?
I hear Russia and China are looking for a little Middle Eastern strange.
Course, having oil helps.
Crackers are good with cheese. And with soup and chili. I know that much about crackers.
so, still can’t answer my question. okay.
And there’s no doubt he won’t be happy about Israel’s new applcation of Apartheid.
riiiiiight, what makes you think that?
cause this quote kinda says otherwise:
why do you keep attributing things to Obama that aren’t supported by his words and actions?
I think Obama got what he wanted from AIPAC, maggie.
The candidate and the leader…two differnt creatures.
Next time around he’ll be running on his record and he won’t need them.
Heck, even W. felt comfortable telling them to piss off on the Iran welfare.
Who do you really think Obama’s going to cater to while in office…the 80% of Jewish Americans who vote (and donate to) Democratic candidates every.single.election, or the 20% of Jewish Americans who are crazy right wing extremists that vote Republican?
I think Obama got what he wanted from leftard morons like me.
The candidate and the leader…two differnt creatures.
FTFY
Who do you really think Obama’s going to cater to while in office…the 80% of Jewish Americans who vote (and donate to) Democratic candidates every.single.election
Hint: You don’t need to worry about people who vote for you no matter what.
um, you realize you haven’t been able to show that the 80% don’t support Obama’s current views.
maggie – belief and facts have little to do with being a troll. I mean, if a troll actually did something that involved facts, then that commenter wouldn’t be a troll. Correct?
It is an existential thing; like when Alphie proposed the balloon missile fence or the container ship army. Both were attempts to engage reality and were so quickly laughed down – lord, were those funny! Good times, good times. Anyway, any attempt to engage actual facts, and place them amongst reality – political, military, social, whatever – is like a silver bullet to a werewolf.
Think a bit about the consequences of an action. Most adults can. A troll can’t. For example – a Hamas guy shoots at an Israeli soldier, the soldier shoots back. Then what? To a troll there is no what flowing on. Whereas a normal adult would say that the Israeli soldier reports in, heavier forces are brought to bear, the Hamas fighter is killed, etc. A troll can’t see the cascading chain of evens, and that from that may come an initiative to do more in that geographic area. Hence the fetish od proportionalism “What, the one guy shot, the other guy shot back – what’s all this shelling for?”
“once he’s elected to the Senate he’ll quit pandering…”
“um, once he’s President he’ll quite pandering to the people that got him in office…”
keep holding your breath!!! HE’S GOING ROGUE ANY MOMENT NOW!!!!
DON’T LEAVE THE COCOON SNIPPY!!!!
Mikey,
The Geneva Conventions clearly state what actions are and aren’t war crimes so people like you, with short memories, can get guidance.
Maggie,
I really am impressed how you think Obama’s gonna rule just like W. did.
And it seems like you’re hitting the bottle much harder these days…family problems?
ha ha, on to personal insults because you can’t argue the points. okay. no alcohol here.
I WON!!!! I WON!!! and now I shall give my undivided attenshons to Pierce Brosnan.
It’s not an insult, maggie…it’s genuine concern.
Nice to see the old “Mission Accomplished” banner being waved proudly once again.
That never gets old.
aw, still no counter facts? LOSER!
“It is an existential thing; like when Alphie proposed the balloon missile fence or the container ship army. Both were attempts to engage reality and were so quickly laughed down – lord, were those funny!”
I don’t think those were attempts to engage reality. See his attempts to cite the Geneva Conventions. He’s got a caricature of what he thinks the Geneva Conventions are, a caricature of what he thinks military tactics are, a caricature of what a Republican is. He’s fighting his caricatures, not reality.
He could start with citing where Israel is violating the Geneva Conventions, by listing the applicable activity and convention. He could, but he won’t because we shot him down the last time he tried it. We’ve read the conventions, the real conventions, and we’ve cited them and we’ve cited historical precedents and he ignores that because they don’t fit his caricatures.
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“I don’t think those were attempts to engage reality. See his attempts to cite the Geneva Conventions. He’s got a caricature of what he thinks the Geneva Conventions are, a caricature of what he thinks military tactics are, a caricature of what a Republican is. He’s fighting his caricatures, not reality.”
I have personally had training classes on the Geneva Conventions more than I can count. This guy has no clue what is in them.
“And there’s no doubt he won’t be happy about Israel’s new applcation of Apartheid.”
You know what? I think alpo has memorized a list of words that he thinks are bad, and just throws them in it’s post randomly, trying to smear JOOOOOOOOS.
Think of it as an insane Turing machine.
One that proves over and over that it isn’t intelligent.
If me and my buddies park in a school and start blastin off mortar rounds, the school is fair game for .50 cal rounds and grenades thru windows. This is one of the many times when a Ric Locke history of the law of war would be welcome. This started off way back much smaller as engaging knights raising flags before kicking eachothers ass. Savages get met in savage ways, it is the only way to freakin stop them.
“He’s fighting his caricatures, not reality.”
It’s like having every Peanuts strip ever drawn in your head. And thinking they are reality.
“Savages get met in savage ways, it is the only way to freakin stop them.”
But Mr. P, that’s, like, so unfair!
Thor is right.
Israel should keep going until Hamas is crushed, driven asunder, smashed into a thousand pieces and then peed on. I think that’s exactly what they’re going to do.
It is an old joke that Jews live like Episcopalians and vote like Puerto Ricans. They have their reasons. I’m not Jewish, so I don’t care.
Parsnip is a troll. Talking to him is retarded.
That is all.
The law of war grew up out of opposing forces wanting to conquer the others land. They wanted something left standing in the aftermath. Hamas wants nothing standing, they do not care.
“We are going to start on Day One, we are going to take a regional approach, we’re going to have to involve Syria in discussions, we are going to have to engage Iran,” Obama said in the interview aired Wednesday night.
– Barack Hussein Obama last night
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Oh my, that doesn’t sound like the crazy right wing agenda at all.
Does it, maggie?
heh.
it also doesn’t sound like cutting funding for Israel either.
It’s like having every Peanuts strip ever drawn in your head. And thinking they are reality.
Peanuts? No, he’s got about a dozen isolated panels taken from Doonesbury, Boondocks and Zippy. Snoopy’s got a better sense of reality than Parsnip.
If me and my buddies park in a school and start blastin off mortar rounds, the school is fair game for .50 cal rounds and grenades thru windows.
You’d think Mr. Balloon Fence could spend a couple of seconds thinking about the logic of his assertions. If I recall right, some models of the Merkava have a fighting compartment for infantry at the rear. Replace that with a couple of stretcher racks, paint a red cross on the front and sides, designate it an ambulance and the IDF would be unstoppable! They could shoot up Gaza, and anyone that shot back would be a War Criminal! (No, that doesn’t really work in any logic but Parsnips…)
it also doesn’t sound like cutting funding for Israel either.
Baby steps, maggie.
Baby steps.
you keep telling yourself that. still haven’t shown how J Street represents a majority of Jewish Americans. funny, not even they make that claim.
“Peanuts? No, he’s got about a dozen isolated panels taken from Doonesbury, Boondocks and Zippy. Snoopy’s got a better sense of reality than Parsnip.”
Actually, Zippy has a better sense of reality. Parsnip probably has a polysorbate 80 deficiency (amongst his others).
Pogue Colonel: Marine, what is that button on your body armor?
Private Joker: A peace symbol, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Where’d you get it?
Private Joker: I don’t remember, sir.
Pogue Colonel: What is that you’ve got written on your helmet?
Private Joker: “Born to Kill”, sir.
Pogue Colonel: You write “Born to Kill” on your helmet and you wear a peace button. What’s that supposed to be, some kind of sick joke?
Private Joker: No, sir.
Pogue Colonel: You’d better get your head and your ass wired together, or I will take a giant shit on you.
Private Joker: Yes, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Now answer my question or you’ll be standing tall before the man.
Private Joker: I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man, sir.
Pogue Colonel: The what?
Private Joker: The duality of man. The Jungian thing, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Whose side are you on, son?
Private Joker: Our side, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Don’t you love your country?
Private Joker: Yes, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Then how about getting with the program? Why don’t you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?
Private Joker: Yes, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Son, all I’ve ever asked of my marines is that they obey my orders as they would the word of God. We are here to help the Vietnamese, because inside every gook there is an American trying to get out. It’s a hardball world, son. We’ve gotta keep our heads until this peace craze blows over.
Private Joker: Aye-aye, sir.
It’s hopey changey time, maggie.
Jump on the team and come on in for the big win!
Even most Germans respected the Red Cross shit in WW2. They had truces at night to collect bodies. Well supposedly, I really do not know cause I wasn’t there, but they did mass surrender and their generals at least walked to the gallows. Maybe it is an antiquated Western Civ idea to actually respect the Laws of War.
If you disrespect them you are more liable to win that is for sure.
BUNNIES!!! YES! thank you, Parsnip!!!
I like the idea of engaging Iran, if we were to do that while Israel is engaging Hamas we could probably end this thing a whole lot quicker.
You probably will rule over ash though.
oh, I do too. Nothing like telling our EU friends, “thanks, but you’re worthless, we’ll take it from here.”
#285 Civilis:
It was an attempt to engage reality. He had been asked to do so. And those were his responses.
I didn’t say the attempt was successful, or even likely to be successful. Just he tried then, found his effort more incredibly unbelievable than ‘Plan 9’, and quickly retreated to just sniping – with a BB gun.
Will it bother you if Hillary wears a scarf while chatting with the mullahs of Iran?
Glad you liked the quote, maggie.
One of my favorite movies.
This quote from it is perhaps more on topic:
Private Joker: Why should we do a story about you?
Door Gunner: ‘Cuz I’m so fuckin’ good! I done got me 157 dead gooks killed. Plus 50 water buffalo too! Them’s all confirmed!
Private Joker: Any women or children?
Door Gunner: Sometimes!
Private Joker: How can you shoot women or children?
Door Gunner: Easy! Ya just don’t lead ’em so much! Ain’t war hell?
According to my i.d. card, I’m Geneva Convention category IV.
um, thanks. now, would you care to answer the actual question?
actually, I didn’t read your quote, cause it has what to do with how many Jewish Americans J Street represents?
oops, further:
somehow these guys are magically a majority of Jewish Americans that the Democrats in Congress don’t pander to, because, um, well, who knows?
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Total Lobbying Expenditures: $1,788,501
Subtotal for Parent American Israel Public Affairs Cmte: $1,788,501
Total Lobbying Expenditures: $30,000
Subtotal for Parent J Street: $30,000
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yes, J Street sounds like a powerful entity.
and yet, you jumped into our “conversation” with a non-sequitur. so maybe next time you should only comment on things you know about?
right, and yet Parsnip would tell you they represent a “Majority of Jewish Americans”. and that Obama agrees with them.
Me I’m tired of the excuses everybody uses, he’s your little palestinian kid, do as you see fit. And also instead of love and the feel of warmth you’ve given him these cuts and sores and it’s really not my problem.
Do they have Rahm Emmanuel? Because if they don’t, they’re not a majority. Or they might as well not be. Whichever.
so? that wasn’t what was being argued.
and it’s not something I would argue, quite frankly. Jews are free to do whatever they want as far as I’m concerned.
Which is why you haven’t been hired by the UN.
Jews are particularly susceptible to NPR-style demonizational caricature of Christians. I don’t think anyone is too concerned with why. It’s just there to be exploited, so they do.
That’s for real my theory anyway.
well, no. you should try reading some time.
WHAT?! but they vote 80% Democratic!!!
Oh, this should be fun.
I for real don’t have to keep in mind that some American Jews are not defensive of Israel. People what want to exploit American Jews and bolster enemies of freedom need to keep that in mind I think. And they do.
The original question psycho already asked about that weird go visit your Jewish grandmother in Florida thing Sarah Silverman was all over. How do we as Democrats manipulate the fuck out of American Jews?
cause they likes them some “Social Justice”?
but no, the original question was (paraphrasing here)…. Why would Obama not agree with the roughly 80% of Jews that voted for him and go with Parsnip’s pet J Street people when he has voted for funding for Israel again and again and even said that he understands what they are doing in Gaza.
or are you arguing that a majority of that majority that voted for Obama doesn’t mind if Israel doesn’t defend itself?
Where psycho used to be there’s just an empty space now. This is a powerfully sad thing I think.
That thread also had buttons. A golden age it was.
See? That wasn’t hard. Yes, because most of them live in urban areas that the GOP has cynically written off as not worth their time or effort.
Dickheads like happyfeet tend to muddy the picture, but I’d like to think he/she represents a minority of conservatives.
So, they’re sort of monolithic is what you’re saying, then. Because of the awful Republicans.
uh, you have some data to actually back that up? or do we just assume that they’re all “New York Money People”?
cause they live in the ghettos.
Where’s JD to denounce me?
oh.
Also I’m not a conservative. You might be thinking of Jonah Goldberg. Or Chuck Norris maybe.
WHAT!?
We can spend our way out of recession, maggie. Think on that. It’s a New Day what’s a’comin. Let’s put aside the old labels and embrace prosperity as One People I think. It’s truly gonna be something to see.
2% of the American population. Mostly centered in Kansas.
Don’t insult my intelligence.
oh, that’s quite the link there…
well, if you insist. okay.
where?
and that somehow shows why they vote for Democrats?
Yes Maggie, “because most of them live in urban areas that the GOP has cynically written off as not worth their time or effort.”
oh. Instapundit says trailer homes are the future. You know what else is that your state data shows that Jews are a lot not likely to live where the Christians what NPR ridicules live. That’s a clue I think.
How has the GOP written them off? and cynically at that? ooooooh, we’re not bribing them with entitlements, is that it?
really though, I admire your circular logic.
Oh. No need. Wouldn’t dream of it.
Yer doin’ a fine job of that all on yer lonesome.
This one is not worth it. Even thor is better than this.
Hammer time.
Are you just fucking with me, or are you really that dense?
I could ask you the same question. so you can’t tell me how?
If those are the only choices it’s not really fair.
The problem would seem to be your lack of a parody filter. But you go right on thinking the problem is everybody else.
That’s retarded. People what live in cities have cynically written off an ethos of liberty and free enterprise. This is because they are very provincial, urban dwellers. Narrow. Zoned. Baracky had never been to the South until he started running for pezzydent. But he sure did already know what he thunk about it. He thunk all the proper things.
People what live in cities are easily convinced that what they do makes the very earth fevered. They’re stupid, bless their hearts.
Life’s so much easier that way. You know?
How what? I’ve explained everything and you’ve pretty much agreed.
I’m beginning to think you have other intentions…and I’m flattered.
Don’t worry Clampetts, I’m sure Obama will be nice to Texas ’cause y’all are about to turn Blue.
oh hey, snips brought more bunnies!!!!
How “the GOP has cynically written off” urban areas.
I gave you my guess, but you seemed offended by it.
Great.
The veggie and the demand are both living on some other planet.
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I’m beginning to think you have other intentions…and I’m flattered.
what? that I”m bored and think you’re obtuse? well, whatever floats yer boat.
re: parsnip and Answer Me
Some people couldn’t get a clue during clue mating season in a field full of horny clues if they smeared their bodies with clue musk and did the clue mating dance.
You tell me. Have you seen a Red/Blue map lately?
But hey, it’s not my job to fix that for you. It’s yours.
Should be a cinch, since “conservatism has worked every time it has been tried”.
You say it’s mating season down there in Cooterville?
I thought you guys just got drunk and grabbed whichever relative was close.
Whenever Maggie goes too far into the stupid she whinnies for her bunnies.
So you don’t know, but you’re going to assert it anyway.
aw, thor, did you wear out another vinyl friend?
How “the GOP has cynically written off†urban areas.
You tell me. Have you seen a Red/Blue map lately?
So your assertion is that Democratic dominance in urban areas is because the GOP just isn’t trying to get those votes? Because of teh cynicism? If the GOP did a better job of getting its message out it could maybe carry some urban counties?
But hey, it’s not my job to fix that for you. It’s yours.
Should be a cinch, since “conservatism has worked every time it has been triedâ€Â.
Doesn’t work so well against vote buying. Nothing does, really.
dammit
“Comment by parsnip on 1/15 @ 9:32 pm #
Will it bother you if Hillary wears a scarf while chatting with the mullahs of Iran?”
Yes.
Fuck the mullahs.
Wait, that’s exactly what alfie wants to do.
“Comment by maggie katzen on 1/16 @ 12:43 am #
aw, thor, did you wear out another vinyl friend?”
Naw, his meds wore off and he woke up.
Frankly, anyone who calls happyfeet a dickhead deserves banning.
Thank you Mark but everyone has been so nice it was kind of bracing really.
Now you’re just being fucking stupid.
USMA 1980. Never voted for anyone in the Democratic Party.