Queens University calls these guardians of tolerance “student facilitators” — a title so perfectly Orwellian that, in all honesty, I can think of nothing more biting to add.
So instead I’ll just take a moment to pay my last respects to the moribund ideal of free speech, then go and start crossing out all of Lenny’s bits from Of Mice and Men.
You know, just to be on the safe side.
(via Dust My Broom; h/t Geoff B)
I’m trying to get a bet down on how long it takes for one of these busybody buttinskis to get their ass kicked.
mojo. Its CANADA! They’ll talk yer arm off,but nobody’s kickin anyones ass.
Is social justice in any way something other than an empty concept? And yet, though I fear it is not, I’m equally convinced that we all will be seeing the term ever more frequently over the next few years.
I would stay in my quiet place I think if I went to college in Canada.
A model for the national O!-force!
Hockey isn’t non-contact.
Somebody, convince me that Canada remains fit for liberty. Quick.
It’s no gayer than a lot of American universities I don’t think, peter. I don’t think you’re supposed to take things that happen at universities seriously anymore.
Progressive missionaries. About damn time.
Can’t you see a couple of beat-downs coming on in the future where both the arguing contestants join together to whack the hall monitor with their bookbags?
I don’t know how you go about not beating down the hall monitor Canadian nazi people. Probably better to just accuse one of them of sexual harassment straight off instead though.
I think Canadian street gangs are still break-dance fighting.
“We are trained to interrupt behaviour in a non-blameful and non-judgmental manner, so it’s not like we’re pulling someone aside and reprimanding them about their behaviour. It is honestly trying to get to the root of what they’re trying to say – seeing if that can be said in a different manner.”
Yeah. Right.
I wonder what the compulsory portion of this ‘programme’ will end up being called? Canadinice? Kindness or Else?
Why would anyone take a report that uses the word “whiteness” seriously?
Probably better to just accuse one of them of sexual harassment straight off instead though.
There you go! Any Canadian college students reading this, our man ‘feets just gave you your mission: as soon as one of these pinheads mentioning anything sexual, file a harassment complaint against them for making you feel uncomfortable.
Several years ago we were in Washington, DC. As we walked across a large footbridge we saw a sign posted in grand isolaton about halfway across and it simply said, “No standing here”. Well, I looked at our teenaged son and just said, “You know what that means?” He just nodded, went over to the sign and STOOD there, I took the picture to document the event and then we went on our way.
I’ll probably have to stay clear of Canada, because I just know that if I smell a conversation facilitator anywhere within 50 yards of me, I’m going to immediately verbalize my non-acquiescence to anybody facilitating me.
Idiots.
Oh well, gets our radar up for the Obama facilitators who I’m sure are being identified and assigned to columns even as we speak.
The infantilization of Canada: campus “speech code” political correctness practiced at a national level.
Well, I looked at our teenaged son and just said, “You know what that means?†He just nodded, went over to the sign and STOOD there…
OUTLAWS!
And on the other side?
it didn’t say nothing,
this land was made for you and me!
I think this meme has real potential, JG.
Subjugation, not infantilization.
Ann, my sister reported something similar happening at her small, PC, liberal-arts college in Ohio. Some campus feminist group posted a near-comprehensive list of words they found offensive that they wanted not to hear. The list was posted on dorm bulletin boards.
Several guys took the lists to the nearest dorm window and screamed each as loud as possible across campus.
What is it that makes colleges seem like islands? In what situation in the real world is it ever okay to insinuate yourself into others’ conversations and “interrupt behavior”?
Bizarre, but mostly disturbing. It means that people sent their kids to college with empty heads. These “facilitators” don’t understand that what they are being trained (and rewarded) to do is wrong.
I’m not talking about situations in which someone is being threatened or something like that,of course.
…as the cafeteria serves up hot, steaming bowls of Soylent du jour.
i tuned in and dropped out
went to the junkyard and bought an old patridge family bus and converted it so that it would run on used fast food grease
but no way am i heading to canada
A “culture of whiteness”?
You know, I increasingly think much better of the Black Panthers. Their racial hatred was upfront and honest, as opposed to these pussies who adorn it in academese.
The next step down is to just take down the names and other, rougher, people will handle it from there.
The first step is always made to seem easy and so “right”. It’s only for their own good you know. Taking back that step is the hard part, the slope steepens to the precipice.
C’mon you guys. Any of you who grew up playing hockey know that NOBODY loves to fight more than Canadians. I’m with mojo on this one.
“This is not about preaching. It’s not about advice giving. It’s about hearing where students are at.”
“It’s not trying to stifle something. It’s trying to foster something,”
“They’re not disciplinarians. They’re called facilitators for a reason,”
“If somebody is yelling something across the dining hall that’s a racial slur, yes, we will intervene in that situation.”
“unique among Canadian universities,” but modelled on programs in the United States”
OOOO K then, nothing to see here.
*shudder*
This sort of leftist totalitarianism would be amusing if not for the fact that it has gone so mainstream. It’s doubly chilling when we have elected a far left President with an evident authoritarian bent based on little more than a cult of personality.
If there were ever a time to have a concerted effort to rally to the defense of the enlightenment, it is now.
U. of Michigan tried speech codes in the early 1990s. you could be brought before secret tribunals for “conspicuous exclusion from conversation,” amongst other offenses.
The Supreme Court had to remind them of the First Amendment on more than one occasion.
I’d say these
political correctness commissarscommunity organizersfacilitators might risk getting into a fight if they root for the wrong hockey team in the wrong beer joint, but not under any other circumstances.Of course you realize…
This means WAR! We must subjugate the wily Canuk for his own good!
MANIFEST DESTINY!
If the campus thought police in both our nations wanted to be honest and save a lot of trees, they could boil their totalitarian rules down to two brief sentences:
“Everything that offends leftists is forbidden.”
“Everything that offends conservatives is compulsory.”
That would cut all the tapdancing around their pc enforcement being anything other than it is.
Did you hear the one about the dyslexic physics grad student auditing a history course? He manifested density.
mojo:
This means WAR! We must subjugate the wily Canuk for his own good!
Careful….
Ahem.
It’s “Canuck,” thankyouverymuch.
And besides, nobody up here takes Queens seriously anyways. You want a real education, you go somewhere — anywhere — else.
I suspect that this little exercise in irrelevance will go the way of the dodo in due course. We have more important things to fight up here — like the Canadian Human “Rights” Commission…
Garth
What’s Canuck for Central Scrutinizer?
Maybe the targets when confronted should try to start a room chant of something like, “Thou shalt not put lipstick on a pig”, just to, you know, facilitate discussion.
We must send an elite cadre to lean their techniques and weaknesses. We will be battle hardened and blooded.
Next, Antioch, OH and Berkley. Move in now, under the radar, and prepare our caches.
Hey, FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKIN’ STUPID MINDFUCKING THOUGHT POLICING BRAINLESS FUCK. AND TAKE YOUR FUCKIN’ FASCIST FUCKING PROPAGANDA AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR FUCKIN’ CORNHOLE.
It’s no gayer than a lot of American universities I don’t think, peter. I don’t think you’re supposed to take things that happen at universities seriously anymore.
Thanks Happyfeet, that helped. It really did.
yours/
peter.
Before much longer, job interviewers are going to be asking “you got a degree, where?” and it won’t be at all complimentary.
“Dust My Broom” – Elmore James and his Broomdusters, edited:
I’m gonna get up in the morning
I believe I dust my broom
[…]
I don’t want no woman
Want every downtown man she meets
She’s a no good facilitator
They shouldn’t allow her on the street
Before much longer, job interviewers are going to be asking “you got a degree, where?” and it won’t be at all complimentary.
I decided years ago that if in the position of interviewing or hiring, an Ivy League grad is going to have to do significantly better than anyone else in the process if they expect me to hire them. To be honest, if I saw a recent Harvard degree listed on a resume in my inbox, I’d likely toss it.
On the other hand, I’m in network engineering, so it’s not likely ever to be an issue.
Harvard grads and Ivy league’rs apply to for jobs at the White House. You monitor hardware alarms and run BIOS updates.
“Not likely,” you can say that again.
“It’s not trying to stifle something. It’s trying to foster something,â€Â
“They’re not disciplinarians. They’re called facilitators for a reason,â€Â
Why is it that when someone starts off a point by making sure we don’t get the wrong point, it is the wrong point I automatically assume is the true intent…
Not that you’re an elitist or anything, thor.
If you’re going to mention Elmore James you might as well listen.
#47
Yes! But for some reason I more prefer another version he did. The commenters there didn’t, though.
Which one?
Which one? I don’t know how to name it. It starts as I quoted it, is perhaps a little faster, and ends with a couple of gituar thunks.
Ok, thanks I’ll look for it tomorrow.
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Why is this guy still a grad student he looks 50 something? I guess if he is going to spend his entire life in a college in Canada and never hold a real job this is a perfect avenue to validate his self worth. I mean being alone, unmarried, unemployed, and still in school after 50 has to suck. If you want to look on the brightside if he was down here in the states he would have been volunteering for O! for the last year and posting online as a “lifelong Republican for Obama”.
Harvard grads and Ivy league’rs apply to for jobs at the White House.
Was Lewinsky an Ivy Leaguer?
Not that you’re an elitist or anything, thor.
You can tell by the way he called me a warehouse worker’s wife the other day. heh. He likes the underclass theoretically. You know, like when they’re a character in a book.
Or a Russian peasant girl desperate to get the fuck out of Dodge.
The grad student pictured is a 46-year-old Master’s of Divinity student. This tells me immediately that he’s a dilettante (or going for the ministry with the United Church of Canada, which, with a few honourable exceptions, is pretty much the same thing, except with better pay and lower expectations). Serious ministerial students go to specialized theological colleges in Canada or the U.S., but never a freakin’ University.
Unless, of course, they’re trying to become atheists but need an excuse for making the transition (“honest, I was a believer until those intellectual gods at University showed me the error of my ways! Religion’s crap, man — at least, that’s what they keep telling me down at the ashram…”).
FTFY. For some reason, choosiness and thor just don’t go together. I suspect he’s utterly baffled by Jif peanut butter ads.
He may have been doing that anyway. We’ve been outsourcing to Canada for a lot longer than anywhere else.
Regards,
Ric
46 years old? Shouldn’t you be entering the latter stages of your career by then with a couple of kids? I think what I am getting at is who would want this guy’s advice on anything let alone how to think. Hell just ask him what he has done all his life and do the freakin opposite you will be alot better off.
What if one reported the facilitators to the Human Rights Commission?
The only advice this guy should be giving is on how to go 46 years without getting laid and without killing yourself. I am sure he could clue you in on how to do that very well.
“46-year-old Master’s of Divinity student”
I humbly observe Gay Face. NTTAWWT.
Comment by B Moe on 11/20 @ 5:54 am #
Or a Russian peasant girl thor is desperate to fuck.
FTFY. Part 2.
I can’t imagine “intervening in conversations” with college students in a dining hall or common rooms. Love to see’em try it after a South Park, Family Guy, or Chapelle Show marathon.
“I’m Rick James, bitch!”
Oh……
Fascism with a smiley face.
Jonah Goldberg is a frikkin’ PROPHET, man.
Daniel Hayward soon to be featured on To Catch A Predator 2009.
Pardon, Jeff, this is really good.
I think you could mount the same sort of attack on Huckabee with classic liberalism.
Shut up, kate.
The bullshit bandwidth bandit is back.
In thor’s defense, I thought he had a great deal of reverence for all of those Russian hookers he was banging. Maybe it’s only the underclass he’s in a cash-only relationship with.
Maybe they can call themselves members of the Committee to Prevent Vice and Promote Virtue
In thor’s defense, I thought he had a great deal of reverence for all of those Russian hookers he was banging. Maybe it’s only the underclass he’s in a cash-only relationship with.
You forgot that they’ll have acheived the ability to recite poetry while drearily forging ahead with their depressingly literate lives.
Ministry of Literate Debauchery
yes, the appropriate response is to turn around and say “See, I’m Rick James, bitch. I’m one of the baddest motherfuckers of all time. One of the best singers, one of the best looking motherfucker’s you’ve ever seen. Hold my drink.”
Or is that a bit overboard?
eSodomy
Rick James?
oh. I thought the same thing, SarahW. I bet the conversation squad is a rainbow of flava like that.
Okay, I am never buying Skittles® again.
“Taste the rainbow.” <shudder>
I think you could mount the same sort of attack on Huckabee with classic liberalism.
Maybe you should try it, then present the results. It just might actually be helpful to everyone!
“We are trained to interrupt behaviour in a non-blameful and non-judgmental manner, so it’s not like we’re pulling someone aside and reprimanding them about their behaviour. It is honestly trying to get to the root of what they’re trying to say – seeing if that can be said in a different manner.”
And what happens when the
victimprospect for enlightenment refuses to participate in his own re-education? I’ll bet things get more judgemental then.The tyrant always smiles so long as you obey.
It used to be the rainbow what was on the cars of the people that drive around gay-identifying but now it’s an equals sign. It’s a yellow equals sign on blue I think. here… My friend P has one. hmmm. It is not without controversy I guess. This would be great to talk about I think. Anyone seen the facilitator?
Seriously though, look at this guy’s picture. He is a 46 year old waste of life. What can this guy boast of as an accomplishment besides wasting 28 years of government grants for free college? What day can he point to and say “that was the greatest day of my life”? If this guy ever came up to me and started lecturing me on how to think and act I would laugh in his face. They should put his picture in the hallways of high schools as a public service announcment against being a douchebag.
Ahem.
It’s “Canuck,†thankyouverymuch.
SPELLIST!
This would be great to talk about I think. Anyone seen the facilitator?
Here I am: repeat after me, “Man does not equal Woman.”
“Look into the face of Canada, and you’ll see our collagen implants are way too puffy.” … Mark Steyn
SPELLIST!
“I don’t give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way. Shows lack of imagination!”
– Mark Twain
I’m sure drinking helped out with Mark Twain’s imagination.
“It is just one of many recent efforts to promote diversity – such as gender-neutral washrooms…”
So removing urinals promotes diversity? Who knew?
Can I sue my company for having gender-specific “washrooms”, based on the theory that the presence of a urinal chills diversity and is downright m-e-a-n.
Both of those sure are personal reliefs.
…barely on topic, but enjoy it while you can-I cried by the bottom of the page.
http://onlineslangdictionary.com/thesaurus/words+meaning+to+defecate.html
“Burning a mule!” Hahahahahaha!
“See a man about a dog”
He’s my psychiatrist. I have this phobia.
“See a man about a dogâ€Â
Wasn’t that a quote by David Berkowitz?
Somehow, “Pack a Bowl” was left out, though it appears elsewhere.
Huh.
They forgot “bend a fresh biscuit.” One of my favourites, actually.
Garth
I just laughed so hard, now I’M turtle-heading.
They forgot “prairie-dogging”, which is trying to hold it in, and just barely succeeding.
I wish I could cite the comic with the accent, who would “Huff out a Havana.”
“hork up a growler”
Jeff can’t get back soon enough really.
Ok, time for the splash weight loss program.
“If somebody is yelling something across the dining hall that’s a racial slur, yes, we will intervene in that situation.â€Â
“Hey hosehead! While yer oop dair, can you grab me a brownie? OK.”
Nobody offered “take the Browns to the Super Bowl?” One of my favorite Larry-the-Cable-Guy-isms!
“Is social justice in any way something other than an empty concept? And yet, though I fear it is not, I’m equally convinced that we all will be seeing the term ever more frequently over the next few years.”
The intended end result of “equal opportunity” is “equal outcome”- quotas, and good old wealth redistribution. “Social Justice” is just equal outcome, writ large.
I think progressives will ride that horse until it dies. Which is to say, until the doublespeak no longer works, and everyone knows what the hell they’re saying.
If there actually were justice in social justice, Asian kids wouldn’t be held to a higher standard in college admission.
hello
…the word “social” would be unnecessary.
It’s just short for “socialism’s lame idea of justice”.
mojo on 11/20 @ 11:56 am wrote:
SPELLIST!
===== end of quote =====
Spellist? Moi?
Bight mi. ;-)
Harrison Bergeron.
Now more than ever.
Naw. It’s just that the surest way to suck the meaning out of any word is to put “social” in front of it: “social science”, “social studies”, “social security”.
The Dream Police are next.
Rats, Rob, sucking out the meaning that way, cause i was going to answer your question from the new thread
with the neologism “the social orifice”, which I had thought more or less appropriate.
What is social justice? It is whatever you want it to be.
My 9 year old daughter tells me her peeps call taking a dump, “dropping the kids off to the pool”. And being a Cleveland Browns fan, McGehee, that sounds about right.
I seem to recall when I was a kid somebody referred to it as “laying skunk eggs.”
This explains much about “social diseases.”
Bight mi. ;-)
“Havatchu!”
“Gesundheit!”