A man of his word. A man of honor. A man to be trusted. A good man:
Just hours after President Bush and President-elect Obama met in the Oval Office of the White House, details of their confidential conversation began leaking out to the press, igniting anger from the president, sources claim.
“Senator Obama would be wise to keep close counsel,” a top Bush source warned.
“BUSH AND OBAMA AT ODDS OVER AID FOR AUTO INDUSTRY,” splashed the NEW YORK TIMES in an exclusive Monday evening, quoting “people familiar with the discussion.”
The two met at the White House in private, without staff.
“Bush indicated at the meeting that he might support some aid and a broader economic stimulus package if Obama and congressional Democrats dropped their opposition to a free-trade agreement with Colombia,” claimed the TIMES.
The ASSOCIATED PRESS quickly followed with details of the conversation, citing “aides who described the discussion on grounds of anonymity, citing the private nature of the meeting.”
Bush advisers view the leaks as an effort to undermine the president’s remaining days in office.“Senator Obama may not be familiar with a long-standing tradition of presidents holding their private conversations, private,” a senior adviser explained to the DRUDGE REPORT.
Well, in fairness, how could he be?
I mean, the guy hasn’t much government experience, really — and writing Oprahfied books about what made you you doesn’t provide a crash course in statesmanship the way, say, executive experience does.
Beyond that, I guess we’ve learned one more thing about Obama that reminds us of Jimmy Carter: a disdain for the kind of courtesies given other Presidents by those who’ve held (or, in this case, will hold) the office.*
(h/t Dan)
See? Class.
He is a vile cur, an odious toad, a jackanapes, a coxcomb, a prancing capon, his mother was a hamster and his father smelled of elderberries!!1!
Oh sorry, your ODS is very contagious. Don’t cough in my face like that again.
Actually I’m almost surprised that this harsh rebuke escaped the Bush White House. I wonder whether Bush will hunt the speaker down and exacts some sort of punishment upon him.
Right, Lisa. Just as inconvenient facts are a “smear,” now pointing out instances wherein Obama acted in a way that is considered crass and unstatesmanlike will be termed ODS.
Glad to see you joining the legions of those committed to the idea that words mean what those who shout them loudest — or defend them with the most militancy — mean.
Might makes right!
Actually, Lisa, it’s somewhat like my brother just observed: “One hand doesn’t know what the other is doing so we end up with these conflicting statements. Mr. President-elect has to keep ‘clarifying’ the positions his subordinates keep releasing on his behalf. It’s almost like he has no leadership experience whatsoever.
“He’s unprincipled and disorganization is the result. Wait till the foreign policy gaffes start showing up. He’s gonna go down as a president that got nothing done because the confidence level in his leadership is going to degrade his authority.”
Not much ODS there, I’d say. Something somewhat closer to, shall we say, a decent read on the reality the early evidence points to. In other words, with not much more than this level of incompetence to recommend him one entire week into President Electhoodiness, I can’t blame you for pointing over there instead. Look!
Senator Obama may not be familiar with a long-standing tradition of presidents holding their private conversations, private,†a senior adviser explained to the DRUDGE REPORT.
The Drudge Report. I missed that the first time around. Okay.
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The Drudge Report?
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Sorry. (wipes eyes). I’m sorry what were you saying?
He had a private discussion with Obama. Obama blabbed to his aides. His aides went to the press off the record. Here’s the upshot.
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Okay okay okay.
That was awesome.
I wouldn’t blame Bush if he called the head of the Secret Service and let it be known that Senator Obama and his entourage would be welcome on the White House grounds only as of January 20.
Why don’t you read the transcript of the Dana Perino press conference, Lisa?
You certainly couldn’t expect that though, could you Jeffersonian?
i remember jimmah carter
my dad being pissed cuz he was always looking 4 work
the misery index. but i was 17-so i only paid attention to him when he told me to wear a sweater!
i’m 17! i don’t wear sweaters
but i sure do remember/live his ‘ex’presidency
spouting off at coretta scott kings funeral and insulting bush while he graciously sat there
carbon footprinting around the globe denigading[sp] this country
politics stops at the waters edge
unless you’re a filthy democrat
i hope obama does not live to be 80
and all u leftoids who want to frame ur narrative
i could of said something much worse
please quote in full [yeah-right!]
You certainly couldn’t expect that though, could you Jeffersonian?
No, I suppose not. As much as I disagree with Bush, I think he has a sense of honor and works from it most of the time. Those with a sense of honor are always at the mercy of those who do not. In a nation where the difference if recognized, it all works itself out. Unfortunately, for reasons Jeff regularly discusses here, I am afraid the US is no longer a nation that can recognize the difference.
Maybe they have classes or something he could take.
“is” recognized…sheesh
Both Bush and Obama are respectfully statesmanlike toward each other. Their both Harvard Men, for Chrissakes!
Their = They’re
Bad thor.
I’m sure other heads of state will understand they need to watch what they say and share with Obambi.
Lisa, with due respect..you seem to have missed something:
Obama & Bush in the White House = private conversations
Aide showing displeasure by talking to Drudge AFTER Obama’s people leaked details to press = fair game.
See? Just a teensy bit of common sense.
dur…can’t you recognize a machiavelli move when you see one?
O’s just bringin’ the pressure to George the socialist banker-bailer,
hey, dude, how about we put some of that taxpayer fundage into saving Main Street jobs, steada makin it all into handouts for your homies on Wall Street?
Here yah go feets.
Spiralling
Why don’t you read the transcript of the Dana Perino press conference, Lisa?
Lisa gotz her summat Obama Delusional Syndrom.
fatal attraction quote
“i WILL not be ignored”
will obamas ex-presidency museum be termed an appease center?
you just gotta have the word justice thrown in though
i hope it’s shaped like his brothers squalid hut though
except it costs 12 dollars 4 the official obama coffee mug
not twelve dollars to live on for a whole year
Both Bush and Obama are respectfully statesmanlike toward each other.
And then Obama’s dirtbag lackeys took it from there.
I think ODS runs both ways, i.e. Dems who can see no wrong in the Dali Bama, e.g. Lisa, and the Republican variety. Lisa, that cackling makes you look crazy and you played the textbook rhetorical trick “hey look drudge report, heh, heh. What, O! said something? DRUDGE!!”
Yeah….Real class….And sooooo conscientious….
Just proves the adage; you can take a guy out of the neighborhood, but you can’t take the neighborhood out of the guy…
And thor, I’m pretty sure that Boooooooosh! is a Yalie…But, I could be wrong. On the right we aren’t required to know our fearless leaders bio…
Best Wishes…
Bush got a Masters Degree at the Harvard Business School Bob.
And thor, I’m pretty sure that Boooooooosh! is a Yalie…But, I could be wrong.
He’s both…Yale history degree, Harvard MBA.
Feel free to explore even more fallacies, Lisa. It’s entertaining if not exactly unpredicted.
Bush went to Harvard for his MBA.
Bush aides would be ten-times more likely to leak than Obama’s, but go ahead an check the reality at the door, we’re talking Drudge – victim was maimed, had a B carved into her face! Whitey tape at 10!
Off that, ob Reed, I know Bush’s IQ, SAT scores, GPAs, attendance records, blah blah blah, and Kerry’s and Gore’s grades and IQ’s, but not Obama’s.
How curious.
Bob, not ob. Sorry, Bob.
Free markets much, nuggie-san?
Are Lisa and Thor retarded? The AP cited Obama aides as their sources in their story you nimrods.
Bob:
He got his MBA from Hahvahd.
Still trying to ply us with FMFT (free market fairy tales).
Bush aides would be ten-times more likely to leak than Obama’s, but go ahead an check the reality at the door, we’re talking Drudge – victim was maimed, had a B carved into her face! Whitey tape at 10!
Right as usual, Thor:
President-elect Obama suggested to President Bush that the administration immediately help struggling U.S. automakers, aides to the Democrat say, in the first face-to-face meeting the pair had since Obama’s election victory.
Free Market Fairy Tales?
Troofers, it figures.
Undergrad counts as your institution. not grad. Bush is a Yalie. Clinton is a Yalie, not an Oxfordy.
Thor is a ITT techy, not a DeVryie
Baracky is a Columbian (allegedly).
Oh, and it was an AP story, Thor, not Drudge himself. Sorry, link won’t post…
Jeff has the AP linked in the body of the post above under the word “statesmanship”.
but bush is a legacy affirmative action figure!
serious question/when i talked to my lib friends and ask ’em why they like obama-they tell me-“he writes his own speeches’
is that true
i mean-this place is kind of an echo chamber
did he?
[so what was always my response btw-a bullshitters a bullshitter]
Does that mean I was momentarily as stupid as Thor? I might jump off something…
“…Does that mean…” No, no such inference is warranted with regard to either person.
Think of me as the wind in your wings, brother.
Even better. Calculated douchebaggery.
thor/ it ain’t drudge-’tis the narrative
it’s what doesn’t get reported
don’t get your panties in a twist
unless you’re auto-erotico-strangling yourself
then it’s ok
Bush aides would be ten-times more likely to leak than Obama’s, but go ahead an check the reality at the door, we’re talking Drudge – victim was maimed, had a B carved into her face! Whitey tape at 10!
Quit panting with so much desperation on your breath. Read the article. It’s not a “leak†if Obama’s communications director is quoted and named, fool.
That boy changes direction faster than a cockroach in full escape mode!
another bit of shedenfreude:
Last week, however, 10 percent of voters were African American while 18 percent were Latino, and applying exit poll data to that extra turnout reveals that the pro-Obama surge among those two groups gave Proposition 8 an extra 500,000-plus votes, slightly more than the measure’s margin of victory.
To put it another way, had Obama not been so popular and had voter turnout been more traditional – meaning the proportion of white voters had been higher – chances are fairly strong that Proposition 8 would have failed.
Out door jams
Michael not singing
’bout Suicide Blondes
no Kerblam!
Just gurgle, gurgle
What?
This is deeply hilarious. I haven’t laughed this hard since Sanford and Son went off the air.
Wolverines are classy muthafuckahs, apparently.
WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks nishi … I will listen when I get home … the have the youtubes to where they can’t play here at work. It’s very oppressive. I could use a proxy but I always forget which ones I like. Baracky is not involved in much of his presidency yet I don’t think. It’s easy to picture him nervously composing himself in the green room, hoping he doesn’t get bumped, trying to remember his funniest marxy anecdotes and Bush jokes.
sorry … *they* have I meant. Now I’m trying to eat my tasty salad and comment. Not a very multitasky day. oh. I like Drudge. He’s been my homepage forever and ever.
me?
im waiting for him to do something.
as opposed to say something.
because, for all Bush’s faults, the brother was a “doer.”
Not always doing the right thing, but he did stuff.
and I’m just seeing leaks, and gums flapping and such from the new and pretty boys. Those are easy; Doing stuff? less so.
so Ill keep my mouth shut.
which will put absolutely no one off their feed here.
suicide blonde[inxs]
i’m getting ready for some liberal excess
but i hear papa [thor] don’t take no mess[james brown]
if i know if i say
hang the dj[smiths]
on campus
do i have to denounce myself?
Call on Lady Day and John Coltrane.
They’ll wash your troubles away.
Of course he does. The facts are immaterial; The Narrative is All.
lady day was my vice president pick
but i don’t think she could make me a moose-burger
figures u’d pick two junkies
but if that’s what it takes to survive the next two years
where’s the
A[methadone line
B[the performance art grant line
trix are for kids
Watching pretentious pseudo-intellectual fuckwad douchebag thor subjected to repeated beatings about the face would truly be A Love Supreme.
Dirty little socialist fuckers. I would not invite them back until January 20th.
i know!
but a krispy kreme sugar junkie rush
could not stop my supreme court despair
hey-when ya think they’ll take stevens/ginsburg off the dry ice?
what are they vegas odds on the date?
Memories
Light the corners of my mind
Misty watercolor memories
Of the way we were
http://articles.latimes.com/2002/jun/12/nation/na-clinton12
Lisa still doesn’t get it, but I suppose that is typical of douchebag O! supporters. it came from “unnamed staff” due to its confidential character. Why Drudge reporting it is so hysterical is a puzzlement. ‘Course, most everything these peckerwoods think, do and say is puzzling. It’s like they’re incredibly, irrevocably, massively, black-hole stupid, or something.
Lisa, that cackling makes you look crazy
Crazy is the new classy.
Kos is a classy establishment of the MAN now.
Jeez, get with the times gramps…
Always the “Kos” citing. Cuz everyone on the left is a bunch of Kossites who are being bankrolled by George Soros, the Illuminati, and the Keepers of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Run, runawayfast!!
The commies’r coming! The commies’r comming! To arms, to arms!!!1!!
Because everything that gets mentioned by Drudge is a lie. It just is.
Bunker, binoculars, black helicopters, and keep those flames from your campfire low.
Bunker, binoculars, black helicopters, and keep those flames from your campfire low.
Whispers “wolverines!1!!” fervently to thor.
I’m feeling more mongoosey versus wolveriney.
Everybody who saw the Jungle Book knows that
Riki tiki tavi is a mongoose who kills snakes.
But when I was a young man I was led to believe
There were organisations to kill my snakes for me,
I was told i.e. the Church, i.e. the Government, i.e. School…
But as I got a little older I learned I had to kill my snakes myself.
Always the “Kos†citing. Cuz everyone on the left is a bunch of Kossites
Hey, it wasn’t me that spent 5 minutes typing “Ha”.
Y’know, I am starting to look forward to this, in a grimly ironic sort of way.
Those of you with long memories may recall my mentioning my Grandmother, the Old Southern Liberal (in context — context is all.) “Lizzie” was a lifelong Democrat who believed FDR was the finest thing evah and considered That Man in the White House (Eisenhower, in this case) just short of demonic. With all of that, she would never have allowed the n-word to pass her lips, and could be scathing about the lack of class and refinement of those who used it. It would’ve been in 1959, or perhaps 1958, when she upbraided me for thoughtlessness. “You have to be nice to the Negroes,” she told me. “They can’t do for themselves the way white people can.”
If this incident is an example, we’re going to have four years of the Media ringing different changes on “You have to be nice to Obama, he’s black and you can’t expect him to be competent.” Perhaps we should start an archive.
Regards,
Ric
Typing lee? Don’t think so, that was an iterated cut and paste job if there ever was a call for one.
Lisa
Are you the founding member of Cunts for Obama?
Sdferr , sssshhhhhh, Lisa is representing for the MAN. I think the time “typing” goes towards her civil service requirements. Help the girl shaft the MAN, man,
Love how Lisa flits from her own gross fallacies to some clear-as-glass perspective on, of all things, wingnut fantasies of her own invention. There’s a certain rhythm there.
Darleen!
Well, what do you expect from a blog cockroach?
Clearly, O! is our Affirmative Action president, given as how he got the job when there was a far more qualified white guy applying for it.
I know how this works. You know, AP may have to story, but if Drudge has it also … it just totally loses all credibility.
“Comment by thor on 11/11 @ 2:39 pm #
Still trying to ply us with FMFT (free market fairy tales).”
You are a fucktard, thor, a pitiful retard.
Why don’t you just FOAD?
“It’s like they’re incredibly, irrevocably, massively, black-hole stupid, or something.”
Personally, I’m convinced that thor got sucked into a black hole and traveled through a worm hole from Teh Stoopid Universeâ„¢ to our real universe.
A piece of shit acts like a piece of shit. The only solution is in opposition. Moral outrage won’t deter a piece of shit.
thor isn’t even a completely formed well-ejected turd but rather a smear on drawers or a splatter in the bowl post-cheap beer binge.
Jack, around here, those are called “Havana Omlettes.” Just thought you’d like to know.
the Hershey PA. highway is littered with Jack Murthas empty candy wrappers
soon to be picked up by the civilian corp
ahh-the cycle of life
serious question/when i talked to my lib friends and ask ‘em why they like obama-they tell me-â€Âhe writes his own speeches’
is that true
You betcha. All those advisors? He just hired them to keep them off the street. Kind of a early start on his jobs programs.
I remember the Super Duper Looper at Hershey Park (it takes you upside down!) Great roller coaster. Hershey Park had the band shell where one could see “Puppet Show and Spinal Tap.” Havana Omeletts come with a side order? White or wheat?
p.s. thor you’re a pretentious worthless douchebag whose presence here provides endless pleasurable opportunities to inform you that you are a pretentious worthless douchebag whose opinion and views have the value of a shoe scraping, you mindless tard.
triple-bill
puppet show
bruce springsteen
obama
and a spoken word “slam” by disenfranchised dissident Tim Robbins.
it wasnt rilly a leak cause OBAMAs people said it and anyway i bet it was bush people who leaked it and you cant believe it rilly happened anyway cause its on Drudge and you guys are a bunch of rightwingers so there!
I spend hours and hours commenting here because I don’t care what you people think.
and I read Celine and name drop jazz musicians so I’m fukkin’ smarter than you and I fuck Russian chicks so I’m fukking smrter than you wingnuts and now please allow me to craft a sthtoopid fukkin pretentious pseudo-poetic phrase that’ll show you how smrt I am and I fuk a Russian chick and read Celine so your thtoopid!
Well, I for one, can’t get enough of you Lisa.
*blink-blink*
oh, did I say that outloud?
Lisa laughs at my jokes. She can stay.
Comment by Lisa on 11/11 @ 7:32 pm #
I spend hours and hours commenting here because I don’t care what you people think.
That wasn’t me. That was likely JHoward. But it was clever.
Sdferr: You rock my world.
Carin: Yay! If they throw me out of here, I will just spend even more hours loitering on your blog. I will bring a couch and sit out front with my 40oz.
Lisa is cool beans. I don’t have to go far out my door to find people what think Lisa thoughts but are a lot less agreeable. Finding the Lisa ones, I have to walk and walk.
Lisa seems to have gone the way of all nishi. No surprise, really. Terminally unhappy.
I don’t think that Barry is going to blossom like a rose in the dawn.
I’m thinking more like a turd hitting a windshield after a homeless guy pinches one off off the overpass.
It’s official. I’ve already put in some marshmallows for those nights when I watch his old media enablers tearing his intestines out.
52/48 doesn’t let you imprison journalists.
Not when the 48 are buying enough guns to make Ghengis Khan appeal to the U.N.
Fuck you, Barry. Just try to kill as few people through your communist ignorance, okay?
Huh, Trashman. I was leaning the other way…clinically happy.
Hehehe, another unhinged mooser drops some steam.
A God who counts pennies and minutes,
a desperate sensual God,
who grunts like a pig.
A pig with golden wings,
who falls and falls,
always belly side up,
ready for caresses,
that’s him,
our master.
Come,
kiss me.
Just try to kill as few people possible through your communist ignorance, okay?
I’m dropping words more often these days.
Stress is an insidious thing, but an old friend just the same.
Yeah. Most of my friends are insidious, too.
[…] the Statesman: I mean, the guy hasn’t much government experience, really  and writing Oprahfied books about […]
clinically happy
About the same thing, knife. Both ways, “They’re Just Getting Ready For The Trashman”.
I’m still desperately trying to have anyone take anything I say seriously but maybe someday I will realize that I am a useless pretentious douche. That .45 looks tasty.
Celine on semiotics:
That .45 looks tasty.
See what I tole you: “They’re Just Getting Ready For The Trashman.”
Celine on me:
“thor est le douche!”
Irma, also, has my sympathies – and Galba!
Is anyone else of the thought that thor is actually alppuccino punking us?
Yeah JD. LOL.
Anonymous leaks say anonymous leaks are bad.
But seriously isn’t the thing thats interesting here the fact that Dubya thinks he has something to negotiate over?
“Bush indicated at the meeting that he might support some aid and a broader economic stimulus package if Obama and congressional Democrats dropped their opposition to a free-trade agreement with Colombia”
Who cares what he supports? Do they need this in this Congress?
However I can agree that Obama’s people obviously need to plug up the leaks. That bit about gitmo wasn’t very good.
Jeff Goldstein, please let go of this. You’re right, and Barack Obama is obviously a very bad man. But that’s why a lot of bad things are baked in the cake. There’s no point in spoiling your digestion about it now.
Did you read the text of the press gaggle Dan linked above? Wherein D. Perino said:
Not that it matters to you, or should, but I care what Pres. Bush supports.
Obviously someone leaked something but i am not sure why this would really benefit Obama? The liberal illuminati have painted such a great picture of Obama he doesn’t really need to do any more Bush bashing to gain points with anyone does he? I am sure this was just some stupid person talking to some other stupid person, something stupid. Obama is smarter than than personally i think.
# 72. It has already begun…
See Maureen Dowd, ‘The Tracks of Our Tears’, 08 Nov 09:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/09/opinion/09dowd.html
#117
That was hurlworthy.
Should be The Color of Money.
I wonder how many chic soul food restaurants they have in Grove Parc.
Who cares what he supports? If it is so unimportant, meya, why did Baracky court his support, and why is he pushing for same by leaking to the media?
President Bush should tell Baracky to go fuck himself. Tell him if these things are so damn important, that he should be proud to put his signature on the legislation when he actually takes office in January. Until then, Baracky is a first-term Senator from Illinois.
Obama is smarter than that personally i think.
Well there’s your problem right there.
Obama is smarter than than personally i think.
I think you mean smart-mouthed. As in Nancy Reagan holds seances. Or Ryan Lizza reporting that the puppy-dog reporters following him around the 2004 campaign in Chicago would get a thrill down their leg when he snarked about that stupid Kerry — that guy who made him the keynote speaker superstar at his nominating convention.
Is Kerry still around? I thought he went to Cambodia. It’s seared into my brain.
OK, maybe not. Obama is right to dis Kerry. Kerry earned it.
wow darleen,
im just saying….wow.
lisa, don’t worry about that one. we all take a broadside in the crowded bar sometimes.
And, sometimes, it’s deserved.
I really dislike the way this is all starting. Of course, right now I am still a bit tired and out of the loop. I guess I have four years to get current. That and reading this here PW. I kind of think of Jeff’s work as my morning Battle Update at home.
123, 124 – why did you have to go and say “John Kerry”. Now I am going to have to try really hard not to swear in front of the cat. He really makes my blood boil. The longer I serve, the more I dislike him for what he did when he came home from his traumatic four months in the Nam. I now have three years deployed time, and stand to get another before I retire. I have managed not to consort with AQ or the Talib or HIG too.
Gah.
Major soon to be Lieutenant Colonel John – Thanks, and glad to have you back amongst us.
Yeah, MAJ (P) John, but don’t pretend you haven’t enjoyed all that raping and pillaging and killing of civilians and burning of villages.
Yeah, MAJ (P) John, but don’t pretend you haven’t enjoyed all that raping and pillaging and killing of civilians and burning of villages.
Gotta have hobbies!
Welcome home Maj (P) John. Thanks for your contribution in allowing me to freely behave like a complete and utter asshole, or, as I prefer to call it, my the Constitutionally protected pursuit of happiness.
Welcome home Maj (P) John. Thanks for your contribution in allowing me to freely behave like a complete and utter asshole, or, as I prefer to call it, my the Constitutionally protected pursuit of happiness.
Me too. Thanks!
And, sometimes, it’s deserved.
I appreciate your empathy, nerdboy.
Apparently, yer doing it wrong. That sort of thing gets you to the top of the short list for Secretary of State if the Oval Office is not in the cards.
Having thor and Lisa thank Maj. John for anything makes my skin crawl. But then I have a low tolerance for creepy lying hypocrits.
Sam, while I disagree with Lisa and thor on just about every conceivable subject(except jazz), they have consistantly been supportive of our military. They certainly don’t deserve what you just wrote.
135, now stop that. My oath means “ALL” get the service. I still think, on the whole, I am better for having been given the opportunity to serve. Danger, time away from loved ones aside.
131. Amendment I to the Constitution – good stuff, eh? Utilize in all lawful manners you wish!
132. see above.
Yeah, Sam. That was a bit over the top.
Welcome home, Major, and thank you (and your cohorts).
Maj. John, I’m sorry I used you to make a point. I shouldn’t have done that, but hey, I’m an asshole.
I fully understand that our armed forces protect and defend the rights of all Americans regardless of their political opinions. That was not my point. Military service is a gift to one’s fellow citizens, and gifts are not about being deserved. If this service was deserved, it would no longer be a gift put a payment.
That being said, saying thank you to someone who gives you a gift you didn’t want and don’t like is still hypocricy in the name of civility.
Lisa has relatives who serve.
As do I. Irrelevant.
I’ll beat this dead horse no further except to say this.
Given their individual opinions about American use of military force and Iraq in particular, thor and Lisa should not be using the phrase “Thank you” to any veteran.
If they have any personal regard for any particualr veteran, they should say “I’m glad you made it back OK”. To do otherwise cheapens the gratitude of those who sincerely mean it.
After all, this is the blog where words are supposed to matter, right.
I dunno, on the bqalance, I think over the past 24 years the “gift” of military service may have favored me. What I have learned, experienced and gained has probably slightly outweighed the getting-shot-at/stuck-in-a-minefield/away from home, wife and kids/missing career opportunities.
I think only because I have not received the same miserable treatment the Vietnam vets got. I can see how someone of that era might say the opposite of me.
Maj. John, no matter how you personally feel you may have gained by your service, it can never offset the risk you assumed for all of the rest of us. You bore the risk of injury and death (and the certainty of separation and privation) so the rest wouldn’t have to.
i’m reading -imperial grunts’cool book-
i like the guy who’s in mongolia
this book should be the narrative
thanks
your a better man than i…[was gonna make gunga din joke]
but i didn’t
Maj.[P] John
thank you
Having thor and Lisa thank Maj. John for anything makes my skin crawl. But then I have a low tolerance for creepy lying hypocrits.
Where the hell did that come from? Do I know you?
I dunno, on the bqalance, I think over the past 24 years the “gift†of military service may have favored me. What I have learned, experienced and gained has probably slightly outweighed the getting-shot-at/stuck-in-a-minefield/away from home, wife and kids/missing career opportunities.
My dad had a similar view. He served for a long time and fought in three wars. Before he died, we talked about how, on balance, he was glad that he stayed in the military and that he felt it had given far more to him than he had given. The military was a good place to be for a minority before it was good anywhere else. Plus, he loved languages and was fluent in six when he died. The military opened up the world to him in more ways than one.
lisa,
I may have you confused with some other left-winger who posts here. You all look alike to me.
If so, I apologize.
LOL Mr. Hall. You are kind to apologize. I accept. I apologize for my shitty response. That was immature even for my low standards of maturity.
(We do all look alike….its those damned red armbands with the hammer and sickle.)
I agree with Sam. A line has been drawn, it’s not nice, and it’s wrong, but it’s been drawn.
OH, and I didn’t draw it.
The weak, always cower behind the brave when it matters, and that’s what these people do. I spit on their entire being.
What does that mean, donald? What do you propose doing with all of those folks on the other side of that line? You really have to think about what you are saying. You can’t be vaguely threatening but not think through what your next logical step would be. Either we are Americans with the explicit right to have an opinion divergent from your own – or our opinions are so atrocious that we are no longer fit to be citizens with the same rights as you. In the latter case – what do you propose? Segregation? Elimination? Re-education? If you are just talking out of your ass, then cool. I find that to be a most enjoyable pastime.