I wouldn’t hold my breath.
– Though, sensing an impasse — and installing himself in the role of unofficial mediator between the McCain camp and the Times/Obama/Khalidi/Ayers axis — Jimmy Carter has suggested a “compromise” that would provide the McCain camp with an artist’s rendering of the videotape in exchange for Israel returning the country to its 1948 borders.
Well, not really. But it’s plausible. Because, like, he’s batfuck insane.
(h/t The Virginian)
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/28 @ 9:58 pm #
Ace is offering $25,000 for a copy of the tape.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/28 @ 10:10 pm #
The Los Angeles Times is dying. They’re actually renting out parts of their building. They have a basketball court in there by the way. They have all these trappings that remind them how they used to be a pretty big deal but you can walk around and around in that labyrinthine building and not run into anybody for long long periods of time. I love going there cause it’s just surreal like that. Very peaceful.
Comment by urthshu on 10/28 @ 10:47 pm #
The little D&C newspaper here is housed at the Gannett Bldg, where there’s a subway which used to go and deliver paper to them and go through downtown. It is abandoned for a long time now, mostly smells of piss from the bums that sleep there.
Filthy ex-journalists. You know the type.
Anyway. The ruins are still only below right now is the symbolic thinger. I really can’t beleive I’d cheer the demise of any business or industry, but they really have done it to themselves.
Comment by geoffb (JARAIP) on 10/28 @ 10:48 pm #
happyfeet,
Even with the socialism weighing you (and I) down, you never fail to bring a smile to my day. My thanks, I needed that.
Comment by urthshu on 10/28 @ 10:48 pm #
oh yeah that /i really worked. yay me
Comment by urthshu on 10/28 @ 10:49 pm #
*And* I put it on the wrong thread. OK, sleep it is…
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/28 @ 11:21 pm #
good job, Jeff. I started reading this to RTO (he left his laptop at the office) and he’s going, “Oh no…” but I kept talking over him to the end and says, “oooooh, it’s not real.” sounded pretty plausible.
Comment by SarahW on 10/29 @ 12:03 am #
It would be cool if there were a “soul train” dance line. That’s always great in a party video.
Comment by Topsecretk9 on 10/29 @ 1:48 am #
remember wayback in this year, primary days, when the media said if there was a rumor of a tape, any tape, there was NO WAY it would stay hidden or suppressed?
Those were the days.
Comment by Cara on 10/29 @ 4:51 am #
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/mccain-funded-work-of-pal_n_138606.html
Comment by C Smith on 10/29 @ 5:03 am #
If the WaPo can crucify Senator Allen over one word, simple justice demands the LAT pony up.
Comment by sashal on 10/29 @ 6:34 am #
Did Ace not get the message to abort with the Khalidi tape-begging since it seems that John McCain personally was in charge of handing Rashid Khalidi hundreds of thousands of dollars for his ‘radical Palestinian causes’?
I mean, there might be a hell of a lot to see in the L.A. Times video of Ace’s fantasy world, but even they aren’t alleging that Obama gave Khalidi hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Comment by sashal on 10/29 @ 6:48 am #
cara,
there is absolutely nothing for McCain or Obama to be ashamed about. Rashid Khalidi is no terrorist, nor is he even remotely objectionable to anyone but the Daniel Pipes crowd. He is one the country’s most respected political historians of the Middle East, who happens to be Palestinian, happens to write on Palestinian history, has published perhaps the most influential book on the birth of Palestinian nationalism, and who wound up at Columbia after a bidding war with U. Chicago.
Let the McCain try to argue that it’s objectionable for Obama or anyone else to be tied to this guy;
I’d wager money the research that IRI funded was well worth pouring money into.
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/29 @ 7:05 am #
Did Ace not get the message to abort with the Khalidi tape-begging
I don’t think so. But you clearly did.
Have you ever had an original thought, sashal? Or are you limited to copying and pasting talking points?
Comment by SDN on 10/29 @ 7:11 am #
“and who wound up at Columbia after a bidding war with U. Chicago.”
Someone needs to explain to sashal the difference between price and value….
although I suspect that his customers at Abdul’s House of 1000 delights (sashal is #737) have already figured out the difference where he’s concerned….
Comment by alppuccino on 10/29 @ 7:19 am #
Well sasha,
I think that if you have a video of Obama laughing hysterically at Khalidi’s joke about “how do you get 150 Jews into an oven?”, you should let the country decide if you’re in favor of that type of sense of humor.
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 7:20 am #
I am sure someone else was there taping that shit. The LA Times claims it was provided to them by a source who made them promise not to release it. But there has GOT to be more than one person who was there with a camera. Come on now.
Comment by thor on 10/29 @ 7:23 am #
Is this Whitey tape number 3, 4 or 5?
I’m starting to lose count of Whitey T’s.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/29 @ 7:27 am #
“GOOD ONE KHALIDI!! Wait, wait… hold on a minute…I…uh… got one.
Uh…..knock……uh…uh…knock.”
“Who, by the beard of Allah, is at my door?”
“Uh….uh….Jew.”
“Who is Jew?”
“Jew gonna….uh…uh… eat that ham? Get it? Ham? Oh wait. Sorry Khalidi, I…uh….didn’t…uh…mean to offend you with the….uh…ham thing.”
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 7:28 am #
Sashal, I agree.
Comment by thor on 10/29 @ 7:29 am #
Only six more days until all that dumb in your head makes your butt all sore.
Look on the bright side of your anal inflammation, with Obama you’re due a poor-boy tax cut.
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 7:34 am #
Look on the bright side of your anal inflammation, with Obama you’re due a poor-boy tax cut.
Oops, except for that whole “I’m gonna let the Bush tax-cuts-for-the-rich expires” stuff.
I sure hope Obama’s Hope and Change doesn’t force my husband to let one of his employees go.
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 7:37 am #
Of course on the tape he admits that he is Lenin, reborn. Then he makes out with Ayers for 5 minutes. He then rants on about Jews, particularly the white-devil ones and promises to bomb Israel. He praises communism (as well as his master, Lucifer - the swarthy, Muslim Lucifer) he does a freestyle rap for a few minutes with Louis Farrakahn, then flashes a couple of gang signs before bounding off stage.
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 7:38 am #
I hope not either Carin.
:-(
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 7:39 am #
Thor how old are you? Seriously when has a Dem politician ever been honest about taxes? Hell even Republicans like Bush the elder lie about raising taxes, but a Dem will raise them every time regardless of campaign rhetoric. O! has already lied about 5 times on the campaign trail do you really think this will get better once he reaches office?
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/29 @ 7:39 am #
Only six more days until all that dumb in your head makes your butt all sore.
Well, if you’re right, thor, you’d best get to moving that trust fund offshore.
‘Cause I’m pretty sure you count as one of the hated rich under Barky’s redistro plan.
Comment by thor on 10/29 @ 7:39 am #
Maybe your husband, Carin, simply needs to work a little harder, be a little more American, more patriotic, wear two flag pins, or get out there and shoot a moose or two.
You’re so…
Comment by thor on 10/29 @ 7:45 am #
The way I look at it I’m already subsidizing your purchases of William Ayers brand buttplugs. You deserve an Obama-sized toy. I’ll sacrifice some additional cap gains to see you get you’re due.
Enjoy.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/29 @ 7:46 am #
Thank goodness we have the LAT to safeguard the public’s right not to know.
Interesting that the anonymous donor of the tape, in his desire not to have it seen by the public, didn’t burn it, didn’t stuff it into a safe deposit box or to a Swiss bank vault. No, he gave it to an organization nominally dedicated to uncovering and disseminating information. Fair is foul and foul is fair…
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 7:47 am #
Insult me a bit more Thor. It’s all you got. Your arguments are nothing but gibberish.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 7:49 am #
“Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 7:34 am #
Look on the bright side of your anal inflammation, with Obama you’re due a poor-boy tax cut.
Oops, except for that whole “I’m gonna let the Bush tax-cuts-for-the-rich expires†stuff.
I sure hope Obama’s Hope and Change doesn’t force my husband to let one of his employees go.”
Find one with an Obama sticker on his car.
Comment by Techie on 10/29 @ 7:50 am #
And thor’s meaningfull contribution to discussions is…….?
BTW: I’d be anticipating celebrating a McCain win in a few days, except for the fact that I’m seriously considering staying up the entire night, because there WILL be riots with the Anointed One is denied his rightful place. And I’ll be damned if they get my car.
Comment by Techie on 10/29 @ 7:51 am #
“when the Anointed One”
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 7:51 am #
None of ‘em are very political. There’s only three employees, so we’ll fire the one we think is stealing from us.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/29 @ 7:53 am #
There’s only three employees, so we’ll fire the one we think is stealing from us.
It’s not stealing, Carin, it’s just some freelance wealth-spreading.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/29 @ 7:53 am #
does a freestyle rap for a few minutes with Louis Farrakahn
“I LIKE BIG CUTS, and I cannot lie,
you 5 percenters can’t deny,
When I see hobo trippin’ on a park bench,
with a forty in his clench,
He gets CASH!”
Comment by Spies, Brigands, and Pirates on 10/29 @ 7:53 am #
The way I look at it, you’re a cowardly little shitstain using Daddy’s money as a substitute for your short penis and general sexual inadequacy.
Have a good day, thor. I’m off to work.
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 7:54 am #
And thor’s meaningfull contribution to discussions is…….?
Well, he calls me stupid. So, there’s that.
Comment by Pablo on 10/29 @ 7:55 am #
Try again, sashal. In fact, try twice.
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 7:57 am #
LOL, alpuccino.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 7:58 am #
“I sure hope Obama’s Hope and Change doesn’t force my husband to let one of his employees go.â€Â
Thinking about that, Carin, but this is the reality that economic illiterates like Obama, Biden and, yes, thor, don’t get
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 8:00 am #
Thor the Baby Jesus cries when you insult Carin. She is good people.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 8:00 am #
This is totally IMHO Sashal, but I do believe the main problem that people would have with this tape would be the fact that O! just sits there while people shout anti-semitism. He already did it for 20 years in his church so I do not think even if this tape comes out it will be a big deal. If you can excuse sitting there, with your wife and kids present, for 20 freakin years while someone spouts “white people created AIDS to kill black people”, then I seriously doubt his supporters will care about simple anti-semitism.
By the way I hate this guys voice now. Every commercial break on my radio his stupid ads come on. Jesus bring back the ad with the Ferris wheel at least it had music. I guess that one reminded people he was wrong about the surge so he had to pull it.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 8:02 am #
I hate the McCain ads too by the way.
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 8:02 am #
BTW: I’d be anticipating celebrating a McCain win in a few days, except for the fact that I’m seriously considering staying up the entire night, because there WILL be riots with the Anointed One is denied his rightful place. And I’ll be damned if they get my car.
Sugar, that old El Camino has been up on blocks since Carter was president. I will be sure to set your trailer ablaze though. All those tires in the front yard will be great fuel.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 8:04 am #
That rascally O!bama has come up with another scam:
“Obama Accepting Untraceable Donations
Contributions Reviewed After Deposits
By Matthew Mosk
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 29, 2008; A02
Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign is allowing donors to use largely untraceable prepaid credit cards that could potentially be used to evade limits on how much an individual is legally allowed to give or to mask a contributor’s identity, campaign officials confirmed.”
http://tinyurl.com/5lpnc7
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 8:06 am #
“I sure hope Obama’s Hope and Change doesn’t force my husband to let one of his employees go.â€Â
Thinking about that, Carin, but this is the reality that economic illiterates like Obama, Biden and, yes, thor, don’t get
And when it happens, will they properly assign blame where it belongs? I doubt it. O! has already made statements to the effect that correcting the economy is going to be painful, because the Republicans have fucked it up so bad. So, when things go South, The One will simply state he warned us. But, you know, Bush fucked it up bad.
Jenny Granholm still blames John Engler. @@.
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 8:07 am #
Pink, I am glad I live in a reliably blue state where we don’t get bombarded with that shit. I have never lived in a “swing” state so I have never had to endure too much crap from annoying candidates. I grew up in California, Georgia, and now Maryland. None of them have ever been “up for grabs”, praise the Gods of Primetime TV.
I am going to relax and watch “Pushing Daisies” tonight. I heard Obama didn’t buy time with ABC. Woot woot!!
Comment by alppuccino on 10/29 @ 8:07 am #
15 second spot:
Joe Biden: “Mark my words, in the first six months of this administration, there will be a major international crisis.”
*mushroom cloud*
Run it.
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 8:08 am #
I meant to say “grew up in California, moved to Georgia, and now live in Maryland” sorry. I actually do sometimes speak English.
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 8:09 am #
Yet, while he’s illegally accepting money from who the hell knows who, he’s proudly trumpeting that the enormous fundage is merely “The People” putting their money behind the candidate they want. It’s shameless.
Asked on Brit Hume last night: is public finance dead? Two yeses, and a “no.”
Comment by ThomasD on 10/29 @ 8:10 am #
No, he gave it to an organization nominally dedicated to uncovering and disseminating information.
No, he gave it to the LA Times. Kind of like putting earnest money in escrow.
Now ‘he’ and the LA Times will use it as a bargaining tool to obtain favors from their new o!verlords.
The only way the LAT agrees to do this is if there is something very tangible in it for them.
Hey, if you were the editors of the LAT wouldn’t you be angling for a new gig?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 8:11 am #
Well tell all your friends from MD to move out of Virginia Lisa. The influx of Dems into Northern VA is screwing up my state. I don’t live in MD for a reason, the freakin taxes suck ass. As soon as I cross the border gas goes up over ten cents and a pack of cigs by half a dollar.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/29 @ 8:13 am #
Because we all know that John Sweeney would never, say, put a bunch of his members into a boiler room with a box of pre-paid credit cards with the intent of running them through O!’s money laundry. Ohnoes…
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 8:14 am #
Why is it Dems screw up states by electing tax and spend assholes then move on like freakin parasites? Why is it they do not stay in their self made hell holes such as Michigan and Chicago? Whatever I got my new copy of Fallout 3 to play when I get home so I will be happy.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/29 @ 8:18 am #
Mr. Pink, I think this Evelyn Waugh quote explains it:
“In 1945, Miss Mitford voted the socialist ticket. Having done her best to make England uninhabitable, she went to France to live.â€Â
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 8:19 am #
Good point, Pink. Every asshole who voted for Jenny should be forced to stay here until she’s gone. All those Union folks losing their jobs should be looking at her and their leaders. Instead, who do they blame?
Bush and Nafta. Idiots.
Comment by ThomasD on 10/29 @ 8:21 am #
Because that’s what parasites do once they’ve fouled up the host, they move on to greener pastures.
Then the secondary parasites move in, and on down the line till you reach the detritivores.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 8:22 am #
I can see Miss Mitford’s strategy working in MD then. That place is a crap hole, especially PG county.
Comment by sashal on 10/29 @ 8:23 am #
Hey carin, do you know who was fucking marxist -redistributor?
of course you know that lower income people do pay taxes — payroll taxes and medicare taxes that are quite significant.
and you of course know the earned income tax credit (”EITC”) was enacted by Gerald Ford and then re-enacted and expanded in 1986 by… Ronald Reagan.
The EITC uses tax revenues (derived from our progressive tax system) to provide additional income to people below certain income levels under a formula so that it gradually phases out as incomes increases.
So, Ronald Reagan was a redistributor. That must mean he was a socialist, even a communist.
That’s what happens when you pal around with Mikhail Gorbachev.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 8:25 am #
Sorry to plagarize N’Obrian but Sashal do you speak freakin English?
Comment by mcgruder on 10/29 @ 8:27 am #
khalidi is the most tempermentally and intellectually honest of the ME scholar set–while he barks about Pali nationalism et al., he doesnt try and pretend that Hamas and Hizbollah are anything other than terrorist mvoements. Almost all of the balance of his set are sitting in Saudi or Gulf-funded and perform standard intellectual contortions to make the U.S. and Israel seem like the proverbial “Union of the Two Towers.”
This is called damning by faint praise.
It is however amusing to watch Sashal defend him, as if left-wing popularity contests translated into intellectual honesty.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 8:27 am #
“and you of course know the earned income tax credit (â€ÂEITCâ€Â) was enacted by Gerald Ford and then re-enacted and expanded in 1986 by… Ronald Reagan.”
Even St. Ronald made mistakes.
“How do you tell a Communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.”
- Ronald Reagan
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 8:29 am #
“Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
- Ronald Reagan
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 8:29 am #
“The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant: It’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”
- Ronald Reagan
Comment by mcgruder on 10/29 @ 8:32 am #
Sashal, the true tax scandal, which none of the two ass-clowns running for POTUS–Obama being the far bigger ass-clown–can bother to discuss is how the top 20% of earners contribute essentially the entire income-tax intake of the USG.
In other words, about 50% of the US population has no income tax connection to US policy; the USG simply borrows their cash at two-week intervals and then returns it via rebate in the spring, albeit having paid itself a nominal, non-inflation adjusted interest-rate.
Comment by thor on 10/29 @ 8:33 am #
“Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh.”
- Ronald Reagan
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 8:34 am #
“Sluuuurrrrrrrrrp”
-thor
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 8:35 am #
Why is it Dems screw up states by electing tax and spend assholes then move on like freakin parasites? Why is it they do not stay in their self made hell holes such as Michigan and Chicago? Whatever I got my new copy of Fallout 3 to play when I get home so I will be happy.
In 2007, Virginia topped the nation in the amount of federal government money received per capita with $14,277. Next were Alaska with $13,721 and Maryland with $12,569. Nevada had the least with $6,032.
Funny how I don’t hear a lot of complaining about the dollars flowing in but lots about the dollars flowing out.
Heh.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 8:36 am #
“We now return you to our normally scheduled programming of “Teh Narrative”.
-Thor
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 8:36 am #
“Funny how I don’t hear a lot of complaining about the dollars flowing in but lots about the dollars flowing out.”
Try paying attention, then.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/29 @ 8:37 am #
C’mon, Lisa, you know the reason for VA and MD being at the top of the list.
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 8:37 am #
Sashal - I don’t believe I’ve called anyone a marxist today. But I LIVE through the reality that when you raise taxes on businesses, they businesses fail, move, or avoid starting up. The most wonderful thing the government can do is to get out of the way of businesses. Recognize that it is businesses that employ people. It shouldn’t be the government’s job to “create jobs.” They do a shitty job, and their employees often leave something to be desired, since they often have a job for life not matter what kind of worker they are.
I SHUDDER at the thought that people believe they have a “right” to a job.
Did I miss a discussion, here, about Obama’s “negative” rights in regards to the constitution? That’s some scary shit right there.
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 8:37 am #
Democrats: Tax and Spend.
Republicans: Spend. (someone will pay for it later)
Comment by the last straw on 10/29 @ 8:38 am #
Dear Wingnuts , please stop grasping at me, I’m starting to chafe…
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 8:38 am #
Try paying attention, then.
Someone’s got a little case of the cranky-pants!
Comment by thor on 10/29 @ 8:39 am #
I think you have your list of assholes upside down, podnuh. Who in the fuck taxed us into $7-trillion of debt over the last eight years? Which party of assclowns did he belong to. Which party of assclowns did that dumbass, Ronald Reagan, belong to?
Only a victim, possibly, of Downs Syndrome would ask for more of the same.
Burn Repubs, burn.
Comment by sashal on 10/29 @ 8:40 am #
yes you missed that discussion,carin
too bad, because jeff and me had demonstrated that it was another lie, another out of context crap with no truth to it at all.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/29 @ 8:40 am #
Democrats: Tax and Spend.
Republicans: Spend. (someone will pay for it later)
Hard to argue with that, but I think O! has intercepted that Republican pass and is running with it far more than any pachyderm, Lisa.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 8:41 am #
Republicans: Govern.
Democrats: Rule.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 8:42 am #
Probably would have something to do with the huge NSA and homeland security buildings in Northern VA Lisa. Where I live it is technically the Silicon Valley of National Security. That and the traffic in both MD and VA probably keep us both on the high end of that scale.
Not trying to excuse it though. 14 Gs per person is WAYYY too much federal loot unless it is for national security reasons. Hard to see how that is possible.
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 8:43 am #
Yet, while he’s illegally accepting money from who the hell knows who, he’s proudly trumpeting that the enormous fundage is merely “The People†putting their money behind the candidate they want. It’s shameless.
If you don’t know who is donating, how do you know it is illegal? Last I heard, the average donation to Obama/Biden was $86 dollars. We know this because all of the candidates HAVE to disclose all of their contributions. This has always been so, and it has gotten even stricter since McCain/Feingold. Damn did everyone drink the crazy juice this morning or something?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 8:45 am #
“#
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 8:43 am #
Yet, while he’s illegally accepting money from who the hell knows who, he’s proudly trumpeting that the enormous fundage is merely “The People†putting their money behind the candidate they want. It’s shameless.
If you don’t know who is donating, how do you know it is illegal?”
Because he’s a Democrat.
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 8:45 am #
es you missed that discussion,carin
too bad, because jeff and me had demonstrated that it was another lie, another out of context crap with no truth to it at all.
Jeff said that?
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/29 @ 8:45 am #
um, I guess we have a different definition of disclose.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/29 @ 8:46 am #
If you don’t know who is donating, how do you know it is illegal? Last I heard, the average donation to Obama/Biden was $86 dollars. We know this because all of the candidates HAVE to disclose all of their contributions.
No, they don’t. They don’t have to report anything under $200, but they are supposed to report them if they go over $200 in the aggregate. That’s hard to do when the same person uses pre-paid $100 credit cards and phony names and addresses.
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 8:46 am #
LOL Jeffersonian. We will see. There was a mighty full cup-o-hysteria about Clinton and his Secret Marxist Agenda in 1992 (he travelled to Oslo to do some secret Marxist Anti American Stuff!!1!!) which turned out to be somewhat of a dud. Now you guys DID predict that he would not be able to keep it in his pants and you were right. But the Secret Marxist Supertax Extravaganza never occured.
Comment by sashal on 10/29 @ 8:47 am #
hey, thor, regarding the top theme article
how about this hypothetical:
What if it turns out that prominent GOP-ers had given money and major props to REAL enemies, and then used them as a GIANT FEAR FACTOR… What if, purely hypothetically, they had given money to Osama bin Laden, or shook hands with Saddam Hussein? How much would the lefties pay for that type of evidence?
I bet more then $25,000
Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/29 @ 8:47 am #
Obama’s online system is designed to accommodate fraud, Lisa.
Comment by Pablo on 10/29 @ 8:48 am #
No, they don’t. Anything under $200 per person is exempt from reporting requirements. So, when you can make up names and addresses and there’s no verification done and no reporting required it all goes down the memory hole, except for the part that lands in the bank.
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 8:49 am #
LOL N’Obrain. At least you are honest.
Comment by Pablo on 10/29 @ 8:49 am #
What if, hypothetically, you’re retarded?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 8:50 am #
Comment by sashal on 10/29 @ 8:47 am #
Eight years later, sashweight.
Eight years.
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 8:51 am #
Pablo: OMG you found us out! We are all just non-existent people made up by George Soros! Curse you!
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 8:52 am #
“Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 8:49 am #
LOL N’Obrain. At least you are honest.”
That’s ’cause I ain’t a Democrat.
[That sound you hear is ny rabidly union, Democrat Dad is turning over in his grave]
Comment by Pablo on 10/29 @ 8:52 am #
Republicans love rich people and want everyone to be one.
Democrats love poor people and want everyone to be one. (Overlords excluded, natch.)
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 8:53 am #
If you don’t know who is donating, how do you know it is illegal? Last I heard, the average donation to Obama/Biden was $86 dollars. We know this because all of the candidates HAVE to disclose all of their contributions. This has always been so, and it has gotten even stricter since McCain/Feingold. Damn did everyone drink the crazy juice this morning or something?
All the candidates HAVE to disclose their contributions from those who donated over $200. Underneath that amount, Obama hasn’t disclosed.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/29 @ 8:53 am #
What if, hypothetically, you’re retarded?
Not a proper usage of “hypothetically”. FYI.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 8:54 am #
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
-Winston Churchill
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 8:54 am #
So basically what your saying Lisa is that you would have no problem with McCain disabling normal security software that verifies names and addresses when charging credit cards online? You know the kinda thing you have to go thru when buying something on Amazon or Ebay unless you want it to get declined.
Comment by sashal on 10/29 @ 8:54 am #
pablo, I have heard they are starting to give away complimentary lobotomy for the loyal Rushtards, Seantards, Bill-o-tards Levin-tards at al.
But how did you manage to get in front of the line ?
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/29 @ 8:54 am #
could someone please dig up the story about numerous donations from one Mr. Good Will for Lisa?
Comment by Pablo on 10/29 @ 8:55 am #
Some of you were made up by Walt Disney, others by Ayn Rand. Let’s not give
Dr. EvilSoros all the credit.Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 8:55 am #
Comment by sashal on 10/29 @ 8:54 am #
sashweight, you’re getting desperate.
Comment by alppuccino on 10/29 @ 8:56 am #
pablo, blah blah blah…….blah front of the line?
He’s here all week folks!
Comment by steveaz on 10/29 @ 8:57 am #
Pink,
“Why is it Dems screw up states by electing tax and spend assholes then move on like freakin parasites? Why is it they do not stay in their self made hell holes such as Michigan and Chicago??
Ditto, Pink! These guys flee their rotting cities, but then they vote to create the same superficial political tensions that produced the mess that they are fleeing: unfounded environmentalism, unsustainable welfarist schemes, tendentious political correctness. It appears that bike paths, ‘green’ building codes and high taxes spring up wherever they go - the long term effects be damned.
One motivation is: take an uppity Hyde Park emigrant in her new rural Southwest home. She’s only ever run a small Home Owner’s Association board but she’s convinced that she’s got what it takes to be a player. So she seeks out a smaller pond in the hopes it’ll make her into a bigger fish. And upon arriving, she figures she can rule over the illiterate rubes of her new-found community just like the Black Panthers and Farrakhan’s crowd push and bully their way through Chicago’s and New Jersey’s scenes.
I’ve seen this over and over here in Arizona and I’ve become good at spotting the type. One tip-off to the type is, they usually rely on state services in their new state while they ply their trade (just like ex-urban Hezbollah followers do).
This results in the taxpayer becoming dhimmi-fied, as his and her taxes are used to finance a machine hell-bent on indemnifying all apostates.
And the dhimmi-fication has begun already in earnest: Joe the Plumber ignored the mullahs’ call-to-prayer, and now he must be beheaded in the town square.
Comment by sashal on 10/29 @ 8:58 am #
99 Nobrain
I suggest you go to the Alaska shore line. Turn towards the Ocean. Try to see the other shore line in the far horizon.
Then yell them those phrases you just typed.
And hope they will be able to hear your scream, automaton.
And please that code word-”socialism”, don’t forget it. You may get even 2 pounds of caviar free for being an laughable utter idiot…
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 9:00 am #
“And the dhimmi-fication has begun already in earnest: Joe the Plumber ignored the mullahs’ call-to-prayer, and now he must be beheaded in the town square.”
lol
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 9:02 am #
So, sashal, I don’t think I”ve heard you say it, but you’re actually ok with socialism? Or do you merely deny that “sharing the wealth” by taxing businesses and wage earners is a form of socialism?
Honestly, how much should someone be allowed to keep? Say someone makes $500,000. How much should they be taxed?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 9:02 am #
Sashal I have heard of pissing into the wind but damn if I have ever seen someone fart into it like you.
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 9:04 am #
Steveaz: That is like, so 1970. People are moving back into the cities. The burbs and the exurbs are like, so over.
People have and will always move to warmer climes in their retirement. You love having new taxpayers and people to buy your goods and services, then bitch about their politics.
Comment by Pablo on 10/29 @ 9:05 am #
I didn’t get that memo, sashal, as I’m not on the distribution list. But I have to ask, what are you doing up front?
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 9:08 am #
I do not agree Lisa. Noone is trying to get into Chicago right now and why do I see ads from Ahhhnold begging people to move to California? It is cause they have taxed their businesses out of existence and they seem to want to let their criminals roam the street.
Comment by Pablo on 10/29 @ 9:09 am #
Indeed.
Comment by sashal on 10/29 @ 9:10 am #
I’d be happy with 13-15 %, carin ( I am flat rate tax guy).
But that jut me.
No, different progressive taxation policies are not socialism.
Though under some socialism systems they use the similar taxation as in the USA…
Comment by JD on 10/29 @ 9:14 am #
Fucking bolsheviky.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 9:14 am #
#Comment by sashal on 10/29 @ 8:58 am #
sashweight, what did ol’ Winny hit a nerve or something?
For example, you do realize that you can see Russia (or the late lamented Soviet Union of your hearts desire) from the Alaskan islands, about 30 miles?
How fucking stooopid do you have to be not to know that?
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 9:17 am #
Just and FYI, sashweight, you can see Ireland from Scotland across the Irish Sea. A quick check on Google Earth indicates about 25 miles.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 9:21 am #
England to France across the English channel is 22 miles.
Hell, the Nazis used to fire artillery shells across to England.
Comment by Pablo on 10/29 @ 9:22 am #
True. But one with a negative tax bracket is.
Comment by sashal on 10/29 @ 9:29 am #
Nobrain, there is no shame in being stupid, that is your genetics , embrace it.
I re-post it for you, :
99 Nobrain
I suggest you go to the Alaska shore line. Turn towards the Ocean. Try to see the other shore line in the far horizon.
Then yell them those phrases you just typed.
And hope they will be able to hear your scream, automaton.
And please that code word-â€Âsocialismâ€Â, don’t forget it. You may get even 2 pounds of caviar free for being an laughable utter idiot…
did you see any mentioning of no possibility of seeing Russian shore line?
And how about the main point, your being stupid automaton , winding up into action on the code word “socialism”
Comment by geoffb (JARAIP) on 10/29 @ 9:29 am #
I think Detroit is where the “detr-itivores are found in Michigan.
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 9:41 am #
So, Sashal merely has a problem with the “S” word. Fine, I won’t use it. Obama is going to tax our economy into a choke-hold. People will lose their jobs. Living wage laws are going to reduce the number of entry-level jobs.
And you know what? The poor will still be poor.
Comment by B Moe on 10/29 @ 9:45 am #
No, different progressive taxation policies are not socialism.
Yes, the progressive tax is a socialist program. It was a socialist party idea and part of their platform of 120 years ago that I have linked for you twice now.
You know what else were socialist ideas? The forty hour work week, overtime, health insurance and many child labor laws. This country has been incorporating socialist ideas for over a century, sashal, for you to argue otherwise is utter nonsense.
Comment by Jeffersonian on 10/29 @ 9:48 am #
From here:
Saw a clip from the tape. Reason we can’t release it is because statements Obama said to rile audience up during toast. He congratulates Khalidi for his work saying “Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine” plus there’s been “genocide against the Palestinian people by Israelis.”
It would be really controversial if it got out. Tha’s why they will not even let a transcript get out.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 9:48 am #
“Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 9:41 am #
So, Sashal merely has a problem with the “S†word. Fine, I won’t use it. Obama is going to tax our economy into a choke-hold. People will lose their jobs. Living wage laws are going to reduce the number of entry-level jobs.”
Ah. He’s a socialist.
That explains sashweight’s mindless adoration.
Comment by ThomasD on 10/29 @ 9:48 am #
Living wage laws are going to reduce the number of entry-level jobs.
And you know what? The poor will still be poor.
Don’t you see? This is o!’s secret master plan for reducing illegal immigration; make job prospects in their stay-at-home hellhole look promising compared to jumping the border and coming here.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 9:49 am #
Sash did we ever say what we are betting? You know on the whole Obama raising taxes on alot more than 5% of people thingy.
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 9:52 am #
The key is, Mr Pink, is that O!’s not gonna raise taxes. He’s simply going to let the Bush tax cuts expire. See how that works? He’s not technically lying.
Of course, as noted on Rush’s show on MOnday, he’s shifted his $250,000 number to $200,000. Has he mentioned anything lately about obscene oil profits? Didn’t he already have that new-tax money spent?
Comment by sashal on 10/29 @ 9:56 am #
B.Moe 124
By your logic, why are you afraid of what you already have?.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 9:56 am #
Carin the bet was more money in taxes would get taken out of my crappy paycheck within 6 months of an O! election. I do not care how it is done to be honest. A tax raise is a tax raise numbers do not lie.
Would not that argument be like getting rid of a Reagan era tax cut so he could justify actually not “raising” taxes that way?
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 9:58 am #
Oh, I agree. I’m just pointing out how O!’s getting away with making the claim.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 9:59 am #
“Of course, as noted on Rush’s show on MOnday, he’s shifted his $250,000 number to $200,000.”
Boo-Boo Biden had it down to $150,000.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 10:01 am #
Ok cool. It will just be funny watching my scheduled pay increase in December get wiped out by a tax increase a month later.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 10:02 am #
Funny as in when you get hit in the head real hard when you are drunk but for some reason start laughing.
Comment by B Moe on 10/29 @ 10:02 am #
By your logic, why are you afraid of what you already have?
Let us all pray that sashal isn’t in the medical field.
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 10:05 am #
By your logic, why are you afraid of what you already have?
Because, unlike the frog in the pot of water “I” realize the water is getting warmer and warmer, and I want to jump out of the pot before I get boiled.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/29 @ 10:06 am #
oh, c’mon, who doesn’t love a cold?
Comment by mcgruder on 10/29 @ 10:17 am #
thor, im talking about taxing
you are talking about spending
these are broadly understoof as being very different things.
everybody knows this.
you will get no grief from anyone here about problems inherent in Bush’s spending.
please note that your guy, Obama, seeks to solve America’s spending crisis…via more spending.
Just kinda weird you think nailed me.
you are by far the most absurd person(na) i have encountered on any site.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 10:35 am #
“Comment by maggie katzen on 10/29 @ 10:06 am #
Let us all pray that sashal isn’t in the medical field.
oh, c’mon, who doesn’t love a cold?”
I was thinking more on the lines of athlete’s foot.
Or herpes.
Comment by maggie katzen on 10/29 @ 10:40 am #
yeah, my brain got stuck on “common”.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 10:57 am #
Hans Gruber: I am an exceptional cold, Mrs. McClane.
Comment by JHoward on 10/29 @ 10:58 am #
I just emailed a friend:
One day
SemanticsLoserthorhootdatalessdaveLisasashal will explain the fundamentals and philosophies behind leftism that redeem it. And that restore to it a modicum of accountability to the systems of democracy. Then all this will make complete sense.I promise.
Comment by Mr. Pink on 10/29 @ 11:04 am #
“And that restore to it a modicum of accountability to the systems of democracy.”
Wouldn’t that involve a free and fair press?
Comment by thor on 10/29 @ 11:14 am #
Do you know, moron, the difference between taxing too little and spending too much? Yeah. Semantics.
Listen close, the Republican party is the party of Socialist, economy-busting, America-hating men and women who are so numb in the asshole that they don’t know when or how bad their butts are getting reamed. This simply must be. All the evidence indicates such. George Bush has been a fuckin’ disaster - for America, idiot. Our economy has never sucked harder. Our future has never looked bleaker. Our people have never been dumber.
Do you know how long it will take to repair the damage done by the magnificent economic minds from the Republican party? You can’t even figure out Barney Frank had nothing to do with the collapse of our economy and banking system. You ain’t got the brain-chops to listen, not to me whose said it from the beginning, to Alan Greensapn on C-SPAN.
You’re a Republican retard, that’s why. As retarded, if not more, than that future topless dancer Veep that’s currently on the Republican ticket. Did you catch her policy speech on energy today? The next time John McCain states that Sarah Palin is the most knowledgeable person in America concerning energy he should be taken to Gitmo and fuckin’ waterboarded until he confesses that she’s a complete, utter retard and he knew it all along.
I’m going to add some heavier line to one of my fishing poles and then do some accounting busy work before I have to retrieve my wife from work. Have a nice day.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/29 @ 11:23 am #
I like our economy. It brought me a new computer this year and right now it’s helping me get my Christmas shopping done. After that me and the economy are going to get a car together. Probably a used one I think. Me and the economy are going to procrastinate on that though cause it’s such a chore. We used to get our cars in our little hometown and dad was still around so he would just call whoever and whatever and we would go sign something or whatever and write a check and then take something somewhere and whatever. We never really took any notes on the whole process.
Comment by thor on 10/29 @ 11:23 am #
This just in: our economy is already in a choke-hold, tard, and people are already losing their jobs, matter of fact they have been for the last eight years, tard. You are poor, Carin. Hit yourself in the head, Carin. If it hurts, stop. Apply the same fist-to-head pain principle when you go to vote.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/29 @ 11:25 am #
See I missed the part where you got married. Congratulations you. I think I already said that I can’t remember.
Comment by JHoward on 10/29 @ 11:43 am #
I think thor just ego-transferred his Obamaprojection for a futurific unitary executive hivemind of brainstem jacking-in — which his little rosy circumnavigational fears shall likely have to salve their fevered whimsicalcircularity — to the pastevents of quasi-Neopoleonic certitide: BushCo simply had no congress, you know, to cave in to. None. No 12%, 2-bit Pelosireid cantangle of frumuous cantankularity spewing the pustulidity of organicrusted demihopiness and socialilaritarianism for topless whirled peas for the past eight-tenths of a decade. And I’ll be out fishing.
See what I did there? I really like thor’s style.
Oh, and Organitito Estrogenalla! What an author!
Comment by pdbuttons on 10/29 @ 11:48 am #
my my-y so angry?
got it in the bag?
u should be/ happy/ day here again-{no?]
don’t reach for my popcorn t-nite
i’ll be watching the palin
ha ha-got 5 votes so far
btw
please take ur kerry /edwards bumper stickers off
democrat controlled congress..
repeat/democrat controlled congress…
shuck /jive/shuck/jive
don’t u dare quantify my jivey-stick
sticky fingers?
brown sugar-no!
u bitch!
dead flowers on ur grave?-no!
sway me-no!
yeah-i got the blues…but i’m just about
a moony mile….
let the airwaves flow
Comment by thor on 10/29 @ 11:48 am #
Well thanks, happyf, but we’d been engaged for 150-years it seemed. Instead of tiring of her after I married her, shit, I finally just accepted her as a remora whose annoyance was addictive.
She’s jealous of Obama. She says I ignore her when he comes on the TV. That’s because he occasionally adds a new line to his speeches, her, not so much.
Comment by happyfeet on 10/29 @ 11:49 am #
That’s remora.
Comment by Carin on 10/29 @ 11:52 am #
This just in: our economy is already in a choke-hold, tard, and people are already losing their jobs, matter of fact they have been for the last eight years, tard. You are poor, Carin. Hit yourself in the head, Carin. If it hurts, stop. Apply the same fist-to-head pain principle when you go to vote.
I am ? Funny, I didn’t know I was poor. Lemmo go wander around my twenty acres while I think that one over.
Comment by N. O'Brain on 10/29 @ 11:58 am #
DJI up another 130 points to 9200, you retard, thor.
Comment by pdbuttons on 10/29 @ 12:06 pm #
7 deadly sins
envy[ why can't i be more baracky?]
gluttony[how can i stuff more obam-bam inside me...or u?]
lust[my g spot is sooo the day before yesterday]
pride[in the name of love]
anger[grief councilors-to ur pencils!-stats-i need stats!
sloth….
Comment by kelly on 10/29 @ 12:10 pm #
Don’t you have a little kitty to twist its head off or something, thor?
Comment by pdbuttons on 10/29 @ 12:12 pm #
thursdays child has far to
go..
sphincter tightening
no gerbils shall pass…
Comment by Lisa on 10/29 @ 12:18 pm #
That’s ’cause I ain’t a Democrat.
LOL!
I kinda love you man. I will make sure you also get extra gruel and a skinny goat when I start working at the Ministry of Marxist Redistribution (I have to confiscate the goat from Carin and the gruel from Happyfeet first though).
– Comrade S.T.
Comment by pdbuttons on 10/29 @ 12:24 pm #
re mem-mem
re mem-member/
tuesdays child is full of grace!
votey vote vote!
i’m from mass/but going “north-north to alaska”
i mean-2 the live free or die hard state/can give rides/housing/foody iffn’ any bots interested
i give jeff permission to give out my info
or i could give out my email
???
gas is soooo cheap now-i’
think i’ll take the “canyenero”
Comment by happyfeet on 10/29 @ 12:30 pm #
oh crap. I just learned the recipe for oatmeal using our k-cup machine. That sounds good now actually. Lisa cannot has.
Comment by pdbuttons on 10/29 @ 12:47 pm #
i find if i hold discarded pizza boxes over the heating grates
the “cheese” will kinda melt/u mite have “cardboard” remorse
but theres nuttin like the smell of coffee-
go half black go!
Comment by Slartibartfast on 10/29 @ 12:58 pm #
Faith-based reasoning. Not to be confused with actual reasoning. thor is convinced of something, therefore it is true.
Not compelling, thor. Not even a tiny bit compelling.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 10/29 @ 1:01 pm #
When-a you swim in-a the sea and the eel bites-a your knee, that’s a moray!
Comment by cranky-d on 10/29 @ 1:10 pm #
That was really bad, Slart.
Comment by Slartibartfast on 10/29 @ 1:25 pm #
I blame Spider Robinson.
Comment by B Moe on 10/29 @ 4:09 pm #
This just in: our economy is already in a choke-hold, tard, and people are already losing their jobs, matter of fact they have been for the last eight years, tard.
Folks have been losing their jobs for the last eight centuries, tard. As long as their have been jobs there have been people getting fired- and hired. We just hired a new guy last week, and are looking for another.
Shit happens.
Comment by Rusty on 10/29 @ 7:21 pm #
Poor thor. His trust fund isn’t what it was worth six months ago. No wonder he’s angry.
Did you know thor has been hit in the face over a thousand times? With another mans penis. NTTATWWT